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BryGuy
08-07-2011, 15:19
I have an opportunity to trade my Kimber custom II 1911 for a Smith and Wesson 360 (J-frame) in .357 magnum revolver.
I really like my 1911, but I have always wanted this revolver. I am torn, so I thought I would ask you guys.

cowboywannabe
08-07-2011, 15:27
I have an opportunity to trade my Kimber custom II 1911 for a Smith and Wesson 360 (J-frame) in .357 magnum revolver.
I really like my 1911, but I have always wanted this revolver. I am torn, so I thought I would ask you guys.

the revolver plus $CASH$ right? might be workable depending on your wants and needs.

if revolver has built in lock i'd pass on it.

Mr. Gekko
08-07-2011, 15:32
I wouldn't do it, but I am not a big revolver guy. If you would be more happy with the S&W than the Kimber, go for it.

skdmrklcy
08-07-2011, 15:39
A 13.3 oz 357 makes for a great range gun...

Unless you really want a carry a lot shoot a little gun I would not do it.

BryGuy
08-07-2011, 15:40
the revolver plus $CASH$ right? might be workable depending on your wants and needs.

if revolver has built in lock i'd pass on it.

The revolver goes for about 700$ new. So I think they are worth about the same. I saw the same revolver in Cabella's for 900$, But we all know cabellas has a crazy mark up on their guns. The S&W website says MSRP is 649$ though. I figure I would carry the revolver, but I never carry the 1911. I usually carry my Glock 26.
This is the revolver I am talking about.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_781526_-1_757768_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

BryGuy
08-07-2011, 15:43
So, so far everyone says don't do it.

limbkiller
08-07-2011, 15:46
Go for it but the 1911 gods will not be pleased. Calamity will befall your family and it could cause a crack in in the cosmos that would not be good for all of mankind. If you can live with that guilt go ahead.:whistling:

TKR Reptiles
08-07-2011, 15:49
I wouldn't do it. I like revolvers, but I still think I would keep the Kimber.

wheelman707
08-07-2011, 15:50
I would say NEGATIVE ghost rider.. because lower capacity, maybe slower reloads???, I can imagine the moon clips for your reloads are a little bit more bulky compared to 1911 mags for conceal carry, but I havnt seen the size of the 360 compared to the kimber so I cant say the size pros or cons.... but at the end of the day its all about what you want

bac1023
08-07-2011, 16:15
I have an opportunity to trade my Kimber custom II 1911 for a Smith and Wesson 360 (J-frame) in .357 magnum revolver.
I really like my 1911, but I have always wanted this revolver. I am torn, so I thought I would ask you guys.

No way

jrs93accord
08-07-2011, 16:20
No way

Now, these are the words from a HUGE 1911 and revolver guy. When it comes down to advice, I would listen to Brian. BTW, since I am a HUGE 1911 and Kimber guy, I would also say NO WAY.

TKR Reptiles
08-07-2011, 16:39
Now, these are the words from a HUGE 1911 and revolver guy. When it comes down to advice, I would listen to Brian. BTW, since I am a HUGE 1911 and Kimber guy, I would also say NO WAY.


Brian like revolvers??? Come on, who you trying to kid? :supergrin:

BryGuy
08-07-2011, 16:43
Thanks guys. I knew you would give me solid advise.

engineer151515
08-07-2011, 16:44
<<< No camp.

Of many gun trades over many years - I only regret one.
That was an Armscor Stainlesss 1911 that I picked up for small $$.
Made a dumb trade for an AR15.
Wouldn't do that one again.

Fedor
08-07-2011, 16:45
Keep your 1911 and save for the Revolver.

JGguns
08-07-2011, 16:46
No way! That revolver won't get near as much as your 1911 in the used market. I would need a couple hundred cash along with it. I have seen a few of these on my local forum for around 500....

glock2740
08-07-2011, 16:51
Personally, I wouldn't make that trade.

dakota1911
08-07-2011, 17:11
Only you know how much you like what you have versus how much you want the other thing. I have done gun trades I regretted and others I go back and think they were a great deal.

dnuggett
08-07-2011, 17:11
Personally I wouldn't do it, and I generally don't care for Kimber. But you have to do what makes you happy. You are the one that is looking at it and shooting it everyday.

clancy
08-07-2011, 17:22
No one has yet asked if the Kimber shoots well and is reliable. There is little doubt that the Smith will be. Of course, if he does the trade he won't be able to brag about owning a Kimber, but he can brag about owning something that works.

Hokie1911
08-07-2011, 17:24
Personally I wouldn't do it, and I generally don't care for Kimber. But you have to do what makes you happy. You are the one that is looking at it and shooting it everyday.

:agree:

No one has yet asked if the Kimber shoots well and is reliable. There is little doubt that the Smith will be. Of course, if he does the trade he won't be able to brag about owning a Kimber, but he can brag about owning something that works.

Who brags about owning a Kimber? :dunno:

Z28ricer
08-07-2011, 17:26
No one has yet asked if the Kimber shoots well and is reliable. There is little doubt that the Smith will be. Of course, if he does the trade he won't be able to brag about owning a Kimber, but he can brag about owning something that works.

Weird, my Kimber works, numerous others here own Kimbers that work great.

But hey at least we've identified another fool who thinks they dont.

:upeyes:

clancy
08-07-2011, 17:27
No way! That revolver won't get near as much as your 1911 in the used market. I would need a couple hundred cash along with it. I have seen a few of these on my local forum for around 500....

Don't bet on it. I have seen S&W 360's go for $500 or so, and used Kimbers go for the same.

clancy
08-07-2011, 17:28
Weird, my Kimber works, numerous others here own Kimbers that work great.

But hey at least we've identified another fool who thinks they dont.

:upeyes:

I had one, it was a POS. Why does that make me a fool?

I am curious, why the insult and eye rolling? Is that the only way you can defend your position? If so, perhaps you should reconsider your argument.

djackson
08-07-2011, 17:29
I wouldn't make the trade but hey that's just my opinion.

Cerebrus
08-07-2011, 17:31
:agree:



Who brags about owning a Kimber? :dunno:

psst.. remember Phonecop?

I would not make that trade either.. but it you think that it will make you happy.. who am I to say?

Drilled
08-07-2011, 17:31
http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/models.html

CDNN has the .357 for $392

Hokie1911
08-07-2011, 17:37
psst.. remember Phonecop?

I would not make that trade either.. but it you think that it will make you happy.. who am I to say?

Honestly, I don't recall anyone bragging about what they have. That's what I really enjoy about this forum. No snobbery.

Personally, I'm not a wheelgun guy, so I wouldn't make the trade. The Kimber is, however, easily replaced if you decide you want to do the deal. As previously mentioned, you are the one that will live with the choice, not us. If it will make you happy, go for it.

TKR Reptiles
08-07-2011, 17:37
Weird, my Kimber works, numerous others here own Kimbers that work great.

But hey at least we've identified another fool who thinks they dont.

:upeyes:

All mine have all worked FLAWLESSLY except one, and it turned out to be the POS aftermarket mags, not the gun...

I had one, it was a POS. Why does that make me a fool?

Maybe because you base your opinions off one gun...

clancy
08-07-2011, 17:46
All mine have all worked FLAWLESSLY except one, and it turned out to be the POS aftermarket mags, not the gun...



Maybe because you base your opinions off one gun...

Actually, I haven't based my opinion on one gun. I won't bother bother putting one gun in bold face, as I don't need it to strenghten my argument. The fact that 2 local gunshops have dropped carrying Kimber due to so many issues just reinforces my opinion. I have a friend who has one that shoots well, and is dead reliable. His is the reason I brought one. The one I had was a jamomatic. When I went to trade it at the same gunshop I brought it from 2 other guys came in to have their Kimbers sent back to be fixed(both eventually got rid of them).

I guess I should ask why guys who have Kimbers get so touchy when others who have had problems with them bring it up.

jrs93accord
08-07-2011, 17:59
:agree:



Who brags about owning a Kimber? :dunno:

Hey Paul, just a reminder, I do. :supergrin:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea_08/jamesrea09/jamesrea10/001-9.jpg

deadite
08-07-2011, 18:01
I traded my Kimber Stainless II and regretted it. I'd keep it. :)

deadite

Hokie1911
08-07-2011, 18:04
Hey Paul, just a reminder, I do. :supergrin:



Whatever, James. You're the most humble guy on this forum. :thumbsup:


...btw, that's a LOT of MIM. :tongueout:

HotRoderX
08-07-2011, 18:16
As someone who likes both 1911's and Revolvers I would have to pass.

BryGuy
08-07-2011, 18:16
My Kimber had some issues in the first 200 rounds but since I figured out the extractor needed a little tweaking it has been great.

I did have a failure to go into battery the last time I took it out in the desert to shoot it. I think that was because I did not have enough oil on it. I re-oiled it and the rest of the day was fine.

It is the most accurate gun I own and a lot of fun. The only real issue I have had was when I set it on the tailgate of my truck while shooting out in the boonies on a 108 degree day. When I picked it back up the gun was so hot it burned the **** out of my hand.:rofl:

Z28ricer
08-07-2011, 18:32
I guess I should ask why guys who have Kimbers get so touchy when others who have had problems with them bring it up.

Because numerous people have them that work just fine, you already said it, you've owned ONE that had an issue, nobody knows if you tried different mags or what may have been the actual problem, other manufacturers have problems with some also.

You didnt bring up the problem you had, you want to try to convince people that if they buy a Kimber, they're getting a lemon, and thats far from reality.

Golddog
08-07-2011, 18:43
A 360 is extraordinarily unpleasant to shoot with .357's, so it's essentially a .38, and one with a crappy DA trigger, to boot. The only reason to own one is for deep concealment. Your 1911 is a lot more fun to shoot.

So it depends on whether you want a lightweight emergency gun or one that's shootable at the range.

I'd rather learn how to carry a 1911 than how to wrestle with the DA trigger of a J frame.

20South
08-07-2011, 18:49
A 360 is extraordinarily unpleasant to shoot with .357's, so it's essentially a .38, and one with a crappy DA trigger, to boot. The only reason to own one is for deep concealment. Your 1911 is a lot more fun to shoot.

So it depends on whether you want a lightweight emergency gun or one that's shootable at the range.

I'd rather learn how to carry a 1911 than how to wrestle with the DA trigger of a J frame.

I agree completely. I have the 360. Unpleasant is kind for what practice with that gun amounts too - and thats only if you are using .38 Special. +p and .357 is brutal. Its fun to show your friends the first time out, but it doesnt go much further than that. Its a great pocket gun for short pants in the summer. Thats about it. At least to me.

For the record, I would trade mine for your Kimber too.

BryGuy
08-07-2011, 18:50
http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/models.html

CDNN has the .357 for $392

I have been looking at this pistol for a while. I am not sure about not having a hammer to fire SA if I want to.

20South
08-07-2011, 18:55
I have been looking at this pistol for a while. I am not sure about not having a hammer to fire SA if I want to.

Thats why I went with the 360 instead of the 340. You can at least practice drawing and cocking to get that first shot in SA. The DA trigger pull is really heavy and I can imagine that would only be exacerbated with nerves if I ever really needed to use it.

BryGuy
08-07-2011, 18:56
I agree completely. I have the 360. Unpleasant is kind for what practice with that gun amounts too - and thats only if you are using .38 Special. +p and .357 is brutal. Its fun to show your friends the first time out, but it doesnt go much further than that. Its a great pocket gun for short pants in the summer. Thats about it. At least to me.

For the record, I would trade mine for your Kimber too.

Good to know. I was looking at it as maybe a carry gun, or fun gun. I have read a lot about it and handled it in stores but never fired it. I Was thinking it could be nice pocket carry for the hot Arizona summers.

20South
08-07-2011, 18:58
Good to know. I was looking at it as maybe a carry gun, or fun gun. I have read a lot about it and handled it in stores but never fired it. I Was thinking it could be nice pocket carry for the hot Arizona summers.

That it is for sure. If you go that route, be sure to get yourself a nice Mika pocket holster. Not sure what the wait on them is anymore, but it makes the 360 disappear.

TKR Reptiles
08-07-2011, 18:59
If you want a good pocket pistol, just keep the Kimber and get yourself a LCP.

Hokie1911
08-07-2011, 19:01
I got a chance to play with a Sig P238 the other day. It would make a great pocket gun.

Z28ricer
08-07-2011, 19:16
I got a chance to play with a Sig P238 the other day. It would make a great pocket gun.

I've been eyeing them, thinking i'll still get a 360 anyway, for ankle, my G33 is a bit too heavy for me there :(

BryGuy
08-07-2011, 19:21
I got a chance to play with a Sig P238 the other day. It would make a great pocket gun. That pistol is pretty cool. I reminds me a lot of a 1911.

Magus
08-07-2011, 19:28
I'll be in the minority here. For me it's not about trading a 1911 vs. a small wheelgun....it's a brand issue.

I am not a Kimber fan. They lost me for life about 12 years ago with a dud pistol and crappy service. That and too many Kimber horror stories from my local dealer and friends. Yes...I am totally biased here.

I'd make that trade in a heartbeat solely based on brand, but that's totally my bias and personal experience.