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ric0123
08-08-2011, 16:45
I've been watching the news on the stock drops the last few days.

I was considering pulling cash out of my account to have a bit on hand, then got to thinking.

Well, if cash is worthless, then what?

I don't want to give out ammo as barter, I don't want to arm someone that might come back to me later that night

What would a silver or gold coin mean to someone that is starving?


What are other small, inexpensive items for barter assuming that standard currency items (cash, gold/silver) doesn't mean anything.

If you were trying to get by in NOLA during Katrina, what would be of value to someone?


random ideas

Canned goods
TP
beer
pop tarts
tools?

wjv
08-08-2011, 17:45
Food

Things that can't be easily manufactured at home like sewing needles

Also Google: 100 things SHTF disappear

There are a couple different lists out there. I'd post them here but we have a ban on copying stuff from other web site. Even though I think that they are public domain list, they are easy to find using Google.

bdcochran
08-08-2011, 18:10
Used pocket knives, used leatherman tools, new hand tools, water purifiers (not water filters). The foregoing do not spoil like food, give value in a small package, don't take up much space.

I can tell you that the used leatherman tools and used knives have jumped in price about 30% since last fall.

Yes, I get the items, clean them, lubricate, pack in ziplock bags and put them away.

If the future consists of blue skies and green lights, then you can give them to relatives as gifts.:wavey:

pugman
08-08-2011, 18:27
How far out?

First thing comes to mind...smokes. A smoker will do just about anything to for a smoke after a day.

Even in Waterworld those folks were willing to do anything

cowboy1964
08-08-2011, 18:35
People need to get a grip on reality. Most well run companies is this country are making money hand over fist. Inflation is NOT skyrocketing. The dollar is not going to be "worthless" anytime soon.

If you want to make some money, start figuring out which stocks you want to buy.

Bolster
08-08-2011, 19:43
Also Google: 100 things SHTF disappear...

That was pretty interesting...I don't know how credible it is, or if it's sorted into any sort of ranking. Where's condoms on the list? You don't think people would want those in a fan scenario? Small, lightweight, useful for more than their intended purpose?

Don't forget that China is doing just fine, thank you very much, so all these items will be available...it's just that US citizens won't be able to afford them. Basic gear didn't disappear during the Great Depression.

Unfortunately 1/3 of the united states are idiots (or have their incentives completely reversed from what's good for our nation) and it will take a lot of smacking upside the head before they learn that who they vote for, makes a difference to the health of our nation.

wjv
08-08-2011, 21:20
Don't forget that China is doing just fine, thank you very much,

Actually they are not. .

USA & Europe are not buying as much of the stuff they make. They are headed for their own recession.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43664527/China_Headed_for_Recession_in_2_3_Years_Fund_Manager

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jan2009/gb20090122_354571.htm

Bolster
08-08-2011, 23:09
Actually they are not. . .

Well THAT's not good news, if true. On the other hand, this report from the Wall Street Journal, Aug 9, article _The Global Economy is Still Growing_:

"China and other Asian economies are growing robustly, Japan is recovering faster than expected, and Central and Eastern Europe, along with the Middle East and Latin America, are expanding...."

Depends on where you find your news, I guess. But I don't see Chinese mass production going away anytime soon.

poodleshooter1
08-08-2011, 23:28
People need to get a grip on reality. Most well run companies is this country are making money hand over fist. Inflation is NOT skyrocketing. The dollar is not going to be "worthless" anytime soon.

If you want to make some money, start figuring out which stocks you want to buy.

I'm with this guy.

Lone Kimono
08-08-2011, 23:39
Most well run companies is this country are making money hand over fist. Inflation is NOT skyrocketing.

Give the President some time he'll fix that

Raiden
08-09-2011, 02:57
I like to stock up on toiletries for such occasions. They're easy & cheap to procure, store well, a lotta people "need" 'em, and I camp a lot so I can always use 'em myself. I've actually made a modest profit just reselling travel-sized stuff while on the trail or around tourist areas. Alkaline batteries, wet wipes, bug juice, sunscreen, and toothbrushes are always popular. The only shame is when I get known as the wet wipes guy, but - heck - I've been called a loooot worse. :miff:

TangoFoxtrot
08-09-2011, 03:00
I say gather up all the politicians in Washington and trade them as slaves for oil in the middle east.

barbedwiresmile
08-09-2011, 05:52
Stock market lol. If people only knew how the stock market worked today.

"Preps" have historically been of limited barter value. Have small luxuries on hand. As I said in a previous thread: alcohol, tobacco, women's toiletries, chocolate, etc. Unless you believe the future of the U.S. looks like Mad Max, you will be served with these types of barter goods stocked.