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RMA
08-16-2011, 07:03
I was all about ready to purchase a RP's full custom from a private seller until GJ posted up the MM pistol on GB. Both are in the same price range so now I am on the fence as to who you guys perfer as a more reputable builder. Keep in mind that the RP's pistol is a full custom & not affiliated with the Supergrade's from WC. And I do believe he only made like 15 or so since the start of his full custom shop. Any opinions out there are appreciated...

GJ1981
08-16-2011, 11:39
Ron Phillips vs Mark Morris, eh.

Like I told you, if the price of the MM stays under $4K, ideally around $3500, I would buy it with no hesitation.

The way I see it:

I think the MM is nicer all around, it has a better checkering job, sights, it is on a 70 Series Colt, and obviously costs more if you bought one directly.

I don't like the "clean-up" mark on the Phillips checkering, but that's me. It's a little odd how the build uses the same frame as NH and the checkering looks identical, yet you told me he checkers them himself :dunno:


You do realize you should show pictures of the Phillips 1911 in question and not use abbreviations at first since not everyone may know who RP is supposed to mean :tongueout:

carguy2244
08-16-2011, 12:34
I'day off the MM, so I can get it. LOL.

RMA
08-16-2011, 14:21
I actualy chose the Phillips custom over the MM. I found out from the seller on GB that the MM has a 3lb trigger pull which is a little too light to my liking so the pistol is yours then. Lol.

Quack
08-16-2011, 14:45
Philip Morris? :tongueout:

http://www.tobaccoworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/philipmorris.jpg

djackson
08-16-2011, 15:52
that MM is beautiful, I would be all over it if I didnt have a bunch of other projects going on

glock2740
08-16-2011, 15:55
Where's the links to these babies? :dunno: I'm partial to Ron Phillips. Morris does build one hell of a pistol too, but Ron is a local boy. :cool:

GJ1981
08-16-2011, 16:05
RP - http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=49&t=74600

Morris - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246623238

carguy2244
08-16-2011, 16:17
Where's the links to these babies? :dunno: I'm partial to Ron Phillips. Morris does build one hell of a pistol too, but Ron is a local boy. :cool:

Yes the Phillips is the best way to go.

up1911fan
08-16-2011, 18:00
Morris by a mile, IMO there not even in the same league.

bac1023
08-16-2011, 18:04
I'm partial to MM myself, but both are great.

Comedian
08-17-2011, 05:11
What would make a Morris pistol better than a Wilson?

GJ1981
08-17-2011, 05:20
What would make a Morris pistol better than a Wilson?

Better is a very subjective term. Both pistols should be very reliable, durable, accurate, and use top quality parts.

The difference between them, where some find one better, is the Morris is hard to come by since he's the only builder whereas Wilson is a shop. The detail on the Morris will be better than the Wilson as well as the resale value of a "name" custom would surpass a production style pistol like Wilson.

bac1023
08-17-2011, 06:43
What would make a Morris pistol better than a Wilson?

You're talking a full custom by one builder vs a semi custom shop. Its all about attention to detail.

MD357
08-17-2011, 07:47
RP - http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=49&t=74600

Morris - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=246623238


IF I had to pick between those two, I'd take the RP built gun but that's just me.

RMA
08-17-2011, 18:12
Should be receiving the Phillip's pistol on Friday. Looking foward to finally receiving it...deal has been in the works for several weeks now.

bac1023
08-17-2011, 19:02
Should be receiving the Phillip's pistol on Friday. Looking foward to finally receiving it...deal has been in the works for several weeks now.

Congrats! :cool:

GJ1981
08-17-2011, 19:40
Should be receiving the Phillip's pistol on Friday. Looking foward to finally receiving it...deal has been in the works for several weeks now.

I pity you FOO!!

Looks like someone might get the Morris at a great price, no other bids yet and only a few hours to go. I'll be curious if I am right on the selling price ($3400-3800 tops) or if I misread the market and it goes for more.

RMA
08-18-2011, 00:26
$2850 sold!

bac1023
08-18-2011, 04:29
$2850 sold!

Nice deal

polizei1
08-18-2011, 05:32
I bet it was Brian! He needs another Morris. :tongueout:

bac1023
08-18-2011, 17:51
I bet it was Brian! He needs another Morris. :tongueout:

:rofl:

I wish I bought it. :)

Comedian
08-18-2011, 18:01
Better is a very subjective term. Both pistols should be very reliable, durable, accurate, and use top quality parts.

The difference between them, where some find one better, is the Morris is hard to come by since he's the only builder whereas Wilson is a shop. The detail on the Morris will be better than the Wilson as well as the resale value of a "name" custom would surpass a production style pistol like Wilson.

But is there a difference in a practical sense? Im talking function.

GJ1981
08-18-2011, 18:08
But is there a difference in a practical sense? Im talking function.

Couldn't tell you since I don't own a MM build, but most likely, no. Whoever bought the MM got a steal since a base CQB is now $2700.

bac1023
08-18-2011, 19:07
Couldn't tell you since I don't own a MM build, but most likely, no. Whoever bought the MM got a steal since a base CQB is now $2700.

Yeah, they got a hell of a deal.

GJ1981
08-18-2011, 19:26
Yeah, they got a hell of a deal.

If my Novak Colt was due to be completed any day now, I would have went for the Morris. I thought it would hit $3500 tops in this market.