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P-Denny
08-24-2011, 21:36
I bought some Missouri Bullet 200gr LSWC's to shoot in my G36 a while back, then saw some discussion about them not working well in a G36. Now I'm trying to use them and as feared I'm having problems, with the last round in the magazine sometimes stove piping instead of going into the (factory) barrel, sometimes jamming vertically inside the magazine, or the slide locks back instead of pushing it into the barrel. Right now I'm at 6.0gr of Unique w/ an OAL of 1.23" (800fps), having gone up with the powder and down with the OAL. Would general consensus be to give up on them because they're not going to work dependably? I've been shooting 230gr LRN's flawlessly, so I assume the problem's not the gun.

Also, would someone share their opinion of Unique Precision Bullets? Their bullets look good to me and are the cheapest I've found ($66/1000 + $11.50 for 230 gr LRN), but I don't see people buying them.

Thanks!

Denny

freakshow10mm
08-24-2011, 22:20
Yes, the feed ramp geometry is not suitable for reliable feeding of SWC bullets. Stick to RN or TC bullets.

Zombie Steve
08-25-2011, 00:07
Skip the Precision bullets in a Glock. You can make them work, but you're ice skating uphill.

fredj338
08-25-2011, 08:41
The problem IS the gun. Same thing happens w/ the XD. It is a design issue, not likely to ever get fixed. So much for the vaunted "GLock will feed anything". All 5 of my 1911s will happily eat LSWC all day.

freakshow10mm
08-25-2011, 09:57
All 5 of my 1911s will happily eat LSWC all day.
And have a much, much better trigger.

fredj338
08-25-2011, 12:51
And have a much, much better trigger.

And grip angle. I have to shoot a Glock almost exclusively to get the same kind of speed & accuracy & get from a 1911 at anytime.

unclebob
08-25-2011, 12:53
The problem IS the gun. Same thing happens w/ the XD. It is a design issue, not likely to ever get fixed. So much for the vaunted "GLock will feed anything". All 5 of my 1911s will happily eat LSWC all day.

I donít think anyone has said that the Glock will feed anything. It does what it was designed for and does it very well. Take those 5 1911 and throw them in the mud, shake them off and shoot them. I will do the same with 5 of my Glocks. All of my gaming guns have a very nice 2.4 lbs. trigger pull. And they all work 100% better than all of the 1911 guns that I own or got the pleasure of doing torture tests on. 2000 rds. a day, with any 1911 that I wanted to shoot Did not have to reload or buy any ammo or have to clean them at the end of the day.

fredj338
08-25-2011, 12:57
I don’t think anyone has said that the Glock will feed anything. It does what it was designed for and does it very well. Take those 5 1911 and throw them in the mud, shake them off and shoot them. I will do the same with 5 of my Glocks. All of my gaming guns have a very nice 2.4 lbs. trigger pull. And they all work 100% better than all of the 1911 guns that I own or got the pleasure of doing torture tests on. 2000 rds. a day, with any 1911 that I wanted to shoot Did not have to reload or buy any ammo or have to clean them at the end of the day.

Agree, if you want to treat your gun like crap & still have it go bang, a Glock is more likely to get you there than most 1911s, but keep in mind that the loosely fit, milspec 1911s were quite reliable, just not terribly accurate. It was the std by which other service pistols had to meet or exceed. I am sure a loose milspec 1911 will still run covered in mud or sand, it's those tight fitting match guns that are so popular today. If I am going to get into a gunfight in the mud & sand, A Glock would probably be my choice, actually is my choice for my SHTF because there are so many out there that mags & parts will be readily available from any BG you come up against & win.:supergrin:
BTW, yes, there are many Glock owners that think their Glocks will feed anything & then they are disappointed to find they are not infallable.

unclebob
08-25-2011, 13:16
That is one of the things you can treat a Glock like crap and not hurt anything to a point. Donít get me wrong I like 1911 guns. But right now since I shoot GSSF most of my shooting is with a Glock. Steel shooting I do better with a Glock than a 1911. Agree if you want 2Ē or better the 1911 is the way to go. Speed I donít know. I have done the plate rack. 6, 8Ē plates at 33 feet 4 times with a total time of I believe of 10.49 seconds in a match. Not bad for at the time 64 year old, old fart.

Fwdftw
08-25-2011, 17:32
since they dont work wanna sell em? :)

Zombie Steve
08-25-2011, 17:36
Now we're getting down to it.

Sonnytoo
08-25-2011, 17:43
I tried SWC's in my G36. No workee...

I use any RN plated or RN FMJ like Remingtons, etc or XTP's (HP's) with perfect cycling.
S2

unclebob
08-25-2011, 18:20
since they dont work wanna sell em? :)

I have two Glock certificates I want to sell.

fredj338
08-25-2011, 19:11
That is one of the things you can treat a Glock like crap and not hurt anything to a point. Don’t get me wrong I like 1911 guns. But right now since I shoot GSSF most of my shooting is with a Glock. Steel shooting I do better with a Glock than a 1911. Agree if you want 2” or better the 1911 is the way to go. Speed I don’t know. I have done the plate rack. 6, 8” plates at 33 feet 4 times with a total time of I believe of 10.49 seconds in a match. Not bad for at the time 64 year old, old fart.
Hmm, maybe YOUR GLock, but most GLock triggers are just not fine enough to allow fast, accurate shooting IMO, not as fast as even an avg 1911 trigger. My best 6 plate run, 2.1sec from low ready, stock 1911, 4.5# trigger. If I remember, 6" plates @ 21ft though. I would miss at least one w/ a Glock going that fast, they always shoot high for me, wierd grip angle.:dunno: Could I get used to it & shoot it as wel as any old1911, probably, it has sight, triiiger & grip after all, but I would have to give up my 1911s to get there. Not gonna happen.

Fwdftw
08-26-2011, 14:25
I have two Glock certificates I want to sell.
Pm me about those

GioaJack
08-26-2011, 14:57
Hmm, maybe YOUR GLock, but most GLock triggers are just not fine enough to allow fast, accurate shooting IMO, not as fast as even an avg 1911 trigger. My best 6 plate run, 2.1sec from low ready, stock 1911, 4.5# trigger. If I remember, 6" plates @ 21ft though. I would miss at least one w/ a Glock going that fast, they always shoot high for me, wierd grip angle.:dunno: Could I get used to it & shoot it as wel as any old1911, probably, it has sight, triiiger & grip after all, but I would have to give up my 1911s to get there. Not gonna happen.


I can hit all those plates in a lot less time than that. Well, not always... sometimes I throw the grenade all the way over the rack. :whistling:


Jack

fredj338
08-26-2011, 15:14
I can hit all those plates in a lot less time than that. Well, not always... sometimes I throw the grenade all the way over the rack. :whistling:


Jack


I can hit then all in under 2sec if I use my truck & get a running start.:wavey: