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powderhead
09-05-2011, 18:48
I have a Mossberg 500 with the bayo lug and heat shield. I don't know much about the gun as I bought it used. On a whim I bought an M16 bayonet for it, after all it had the lug for it. The problem is that the bayonet doesn't fit properly. It won't lock in place. I can see what the problem is. The bayonet bottoms out on the lug before it goes in far enough to lock. A simple fix would be to file or grind the lug so that the bayo. would go in far enough to lock. Or I could Dremil on the bayonet.

I have the shotgun for home defense and coyotes. Is a bayonet a good choice for a home defense shotty? Should I modify the gun, or the bayonet? I might add that the bayonet fits real well on my RIA AR 15. Your input is appreciated.

Maine1
09-05-2011, 18:53
Modify the bayo, the cheapest part. But give the lugs a GOOD inspection as well, side by side.

I love my 590- it takes the bayonet as well. A light will be more valuable, but there are also other variables to consider.

WoodenPlank
09-05-2011, 18:54
For anything other than range toy time (or shoving the bayonet in the dirt to hold up your shotgun), the bayonet is useless in a home environment. Assuming you have a Mossberg 590, youre essentially adding 6-8" to the end of your 20" barrel, making it drastically harder to maneuver inside a home.

I have both an original M7 bayonet, and an M9 clone, and only have them for personal entertainment - I would never attempt to use either on my 590 for social purposes.

powderhead
09-05-2011, 19:10
Very sorry! I did say 500 when I meant 590.

MrMurphy
09-06-2011, 03:16
Bayonets on shotguns are pure intimidation weapons for crowd control.

Assuming you even know HOW to fight with a bayoneted weapon, if they're that close you're in serious trouble. A pointy end on the gun at that range is nice, but a solid muzzle strike with the plain barrel will accomplish much the same thing.

Getting a muzzle rammed into your chest is not a pleasant experience, having delivered a couple to some noncompliant personnel.

STI
09-06-2011, 07:38
Really dont understand the use of the bayonet?
It should just slip on and lock. Please post when you use it.

David Armstrong
09-06-2011, 08:36
Someplace in this forum is a rather lengthy thread on how silly it is to put a bayonet on a shotgun for HD. I don't think anything has changed since then, it is still a rather silly idea.

1gewehr
09-06-2011, 08:57
Before you Dremel, make sure that your bayonet mount is really made for the M16 bayonet. IIRC, most shotgun bayonet mounts are made for the M1917 Enfield bayonet. It's a rather longer blade and different mount. Decent reproduction bayonets are available from IMA.
http://www.ima-usa.com/u-s-m-1917-enfield-bayonet-w-scabbard-collector-grade.html

ScrappyDoo
09-06-2011, 10:04
Shotty makes u sound like biggie smalls.

pkdmslf
09-06-2011, 11:05
You have a shotgun... you shouldn't have to use a bayonet. If someone has to use a bayonet on a shotgun, well, they need to find another SD weapon. I'm just sayin'.

MrMurphy
09-06-2011, 13:01
Mossberg 590s are made to accept the M7, M9 and M10 bayonets (all which fit on an M16) assuming the mount was made correctly.

i've seen both an M7 and M9 mounted on a Mossberg before, so I know they should work.

WoodenPlank
09-06-2011, 13:06
Before you Dremel, make sure that your bayonet mount is really made for the M16 bayonet. IIRC, most shotgun bayonet mounts are made for the M1917 Enfield bayonet. It's a rather longer blade and different mount. Decent reproduction bayonets are available from IMA.
http://www.ima-usa.com/u-s-m-1917-enfield-bayonet-w-scabbard-collector-grade.html

Mossberg 590s are made to accept the M7, M9 and M10 bayonets (all which fit on an M16) assuming the mount was made correctly.

i've seen both an M7 and M9 mounted on a Mossberg before, so I know they should work.

Yep, I have mounted both the M7 and M9 on my Mossberg, and they fit just fine. It's still an utterly ridiculous idea for HD use.

Glock940
09-06-2011, 13:23
I'm sure it will give the intruder / criminal / home invader a second thought as to whether or not to go for the shot gun and try and disarm you though lol

peterj
09-06-2011, 13:33
Are you going to stab them before or after blowing a hole through them?

WoodenPlank
09-06-2011, 13:37
I'm sure it will give the intruder / criminal / home invader a second thought as to whether or not to go for the shot gun and try and disarm you though lol

120 to 200 lumens of light in the eyes, followed by a thump to the chest from the muzzle, or toe of the stock, can handle that as easily as a bayonet. Neither one of those adds 6-8" of length to an already long gun.

Are you going to stab them before or after blowing a 50 cal. hole in them?

Hey, if they get stuck on the bayonet, shooting them is supposed to be a good way to dislodge them! :rofl:

Booker
09-06-2011, 13:38
I use the bayonet on my 590. It is a major part of my HD tatical plan.

First, I'll run them through with the bayonet, then I'll fire the shotgun to get them off of the bayonet.

I also use the bayonet when rabbit hunting. I still have nightmares from watching the Holy Grail!

Glock940
09-06-2011, 13:45
Are you going to stab them before or after blowing a hole through them?


I'm not blowing anyone :tongueout: Shoot them in the leg, then stab them, then shoot them again...then cut off their arms and fingers off and put them on the grill for dinner :rofl:

Glock940
09-06-2011, 13:52
120 to 200 lumens of light in the eyes, followed by a thump to the chest from the muzzle, or toe of the stock, can handle that as easily as a bayonet. Neither one of those adds 6-8" of length to an already long gun.



Hey, if they get stuck on the bayonet, shooting them is supposed to be a good way to dislodge them! :rofl:


I hear ya....Who says they will come during the night, if the come during dinner that's great :rofl: (reference to my last post lol). 6 to 8 inches further away from them is ok no one is not hunting them. I guess it depends on the house, land, and situation. Either way with one or without one they will not leave on their own lol.

WoodenPlank
09-06-2011, 15:04
I use the bayonet on my 590. It is a major part of my HD tatical plan.

First, I'll run them through with the bayonet, then I'll fire the shotgun to get them off of the bayonet.

I also use the bayonet when rabbit hunting. I still have nightmares from watching the Holy Grail!

You don't keep a few Holy Hand Grenades in the house? :dunno:

k594
09-06-2011, 18:10
if you close enough to stab someone and your going to use deadly force anyway just shoot the sorry bastard

Booker
09-06-2011, 18:32
You don't keep a few Holy Hand Grenades in the house? :dunno:

No, you have to have a special tax stamp to own those!

I do have some coconut shells for special sound effects!:rofl:

k594
09-06-2011, 18:49
I do have some coconut shells for special sound effects!:rofl:

:supergrin: LOL

smokeross
09-07-2011, 00:13
Bayonets on shotguns are pure intimidation weapons for crowd control.

Assuming you even know HOW to fight with a bayoneted weapon, if they're that close you're in serious trouble. A pointy end on the gun at that range is nice, but a solid muzzle strike with the plain barrel will accomplish much the same thing.

Getting a muzzle rammed into your chest is not a pleasant experience, having delivered a couple to some noncompliant personnel.
Don't forget the 'butt stroke to the head.'

MrMurphy
09-07-2011, 11:33
Only works if you got room and no sling.

Not fun in a tight hallway. Ask me how i know.

In that case a muzzle strike to the chest and a headbutt with a helmet did the job.

ScrappyDoo
09-07-2011, 17:31
"little gotti got the shotty to yer body...so don't resist or ya might miss Christmas" - biggie smalls.

Me personally, I got myself a SHOTGUN.

k594
09-07-2011, 19:43
booooom head shot

Angry Fist
09-07-2011, 19:55
I know a guy with a cattle prod on his.

Brad737
09-07-2011, 22:56
Shotty? Bayonet? Do your parents know you play on gun forums? :upeyes:

Big A
09-14-2011, 15:05
All of you guys are forgetting the cool factor the bayonet adds...

My problem is I have a bayonet and no 590....

DHSGMAN
09-14-2011, 16:13
Do you plan on engaging in trench warfare?

Worthless as **** on a boar.

ScrappyDoo
09-16-2011, 12:42
I am really really liking the M590A1SPX, and if I got it , and since it has the bayonett, sure i'd attach it, you never never never know when you'd need it and you don't sacrifice anything with it on, right?

But yeah, I'd imagine it's not the most useful thing but hey, it's just another part of your home defense/personal protection/combat parts of the whole unit. Why not right?

Texas357
09-16-2011, 17:06
Just wrap the front of it in barbed wire. I hear thats the tactical thing to do these days.

nastytrigger
09-16-2011, 17:42
I received a free M7 bayonet when I bought something from Cheaper Than Dirt years ago.

I bought my Mossberg 590 on a whim and was delighted when I realized it has a bayonet lug on it!

El_Ron1
09-16-2011, 19:33
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k635/aniemyer/LibyanRebelGearQueer.jpg

nastytrigger
09-16-2011, 20:03
I need to do a Mossberg 590 with bayonet vs. Mosin-Nagant 91/30 with bayonet side-by-side ;)

Here's my Mosin when I bought it earlier this year. I'll work on a pic:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/18df8005-ffe6-d466.jpg

nastytrigger
09-16-2011, 20:13
Here's a fun pic. My 20" Mossberg 590 with a M7 bayonet vs. my 1928 Mosin-Nagant 91/30 with bayonet affixed:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/18df8005-023d-a0df.jpg

UtahIrishman
09-16-2011, 21:10
An attached bayonet should work well on coyotes...just be sure and grasp the stock firmly before you throw it.

akgunnut
09-18-2011, 15:45
I have an Ontario M9 bayonet for my 590 SP! :supergrin:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/spyderdude18/IMGP0352.jpg

I'd like to try stabbing some bad watermelons then blowing them to bits while they're still impaled on the bayonet!

azbuckeye
09-18-2011, 16:10
The bayonet is usedful when you're 'clearing trenches' but I don't see any practical use for them now....

WoodenPlank
09-18-2011, 17:39
The bayonet is usedful when you're 'clearing trenches' but I don't see any practical use for them now....

Good way to keep rioters from getting any bright ideas about rushing the cops shooting beanbags and rubber 00 at them. :rofl:

El_Ron1
09-18-2011, 19:38
Banned in Britain?

cdog533
09-25-2011, 21:44
Could be useful in a zombie attack scenario.