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UniversalBrow06
09-16-2011, 13:02
I was checking out Academy Sports yesterday during my break, and I came across Hornady .223 55 grain BT ammo which had "Training" on the label. Bought a box thinking I like Hornady in general and I've never tried their TAP line for training, but when I opened it up it was Brass instead of polymer coated. Needless to say, I was impressed. Looked like nice ammo.

Would it be a good idea to use this for SHTF ammo or storage ammo or light hunting ammo as well? It seems kinda fancy just for training fodder. What in Hornadys book makes this "training" ammo? Is it not as accurate? Light brass cases? Lower velocity?

zhix
09-16-2011, 13:29
I have no experience with this ammo, these are hollow points? How much do they cost?

I am happy with Federal XM193 5.56 FMJ and M855 62 gr. green tip for all around use, though I do have a few boxes of other stuff like 60 grain 223 TAP.

Plus over the last few months I have been getting XM193 and M855 at very good prices, under $6 and $7 per 20rds.

I have not yet went hunting with ARs, so I don't know what ammo would be good for such purpose.

UniversalBrow06
09-16-2011, 13:35
I have no experience with this ammo, these are hollow points? How much do they cost?

I am happy with Federal XM193 5.56 FMJ and M855 62 gr. green tip for all around use, though I do have a few boxes of other stuff like 60 grain 223 TAP.

Plus over the last few months I have been getting XM193 and M855 at very good prices, under $6 and $7 per 20rds.

I have not yet went hunting with ARs, so I don't know what ammo would be good for such purpose.

It's plain Jane FMJ. I'm not gonna lie, it's kinda expensive at $26.99 for a box of 50. Bullet design, how would these 55 gr, BT, FMJ bullets differ from M193 bullets? Would they perform similarly vs soft and hard targets if fired out of the same barrel at the same velocity?

COLOSHOOTR
09-16-2011, 14:13
Hornaday ammo is good stuff. A 55gr FMJ boat tail bullet is what M193 is so performance would be similar... The pressures on the M193 5.56mm military offeings are a little different but I don't think you'd notice much a difference.

K. Foster
09-16-2011, 15:23
I was checking out Academy Sports yesterday during my break, and I came across Hornady .223 55 grain BT ammo which had "Training" on the label. Bought a box thinking I like Hornady in general and I've never tried their TAP line for training, but when I opened it up it was Brass instead of polymer coated. Needless to say, I was impressed. Looked like nice ammo.

Would it be a good idea to use this for SHTF ammo or storage ammo or light hunting ammo as well? It seems kinda fancy just for training fodder. What in Hornadys book makes this "training" ammo? Is it not as accurate? Light brass cases? Lower velocity?

The Hornady Training ammo that I have used has been steel case. At .53 cents per round, that is way to expensive for FMJ. That said, other than an occasional hard primer, I’ve had good luck with it.

UniversalBrow06
09-16-2011, 17:12
The Hornady Training ammo that I have used has been steel case. At .53 cents per round, that is way to expensive for FMJ. That said, other than an occasional hard primer, I’ve had good luck with it.

Eh, sorry I have misspoken. It is actually SP instead of FMJ. I think they did have FMJ too though, for the same price. It is definitely brass, it says brass case and I confirmed it as soon as I opened the box.

It looks like good ammo, but I could be wrong. How is SP for SD/HD/SHTF? Good or limited penetration?

UniversalBrow06
09-16-2011, 20:10
On that note, I should ask... Is there danger in running SP ammo through my AR? I hadn't thought about it until just now but I have only run SP through lever action, bolt action rifles and revolvers. Never 5.56/.223 ammo.

K. Foster
09-16-2011, 20:11
I would recommend a bullet heavier than 55g but a SP will be better than FMJ.
You will have no problems with the soft point.

UniversalBrow06
09-16-2011, 20:51
Here is exactly the ammo I'm talking about although I got it for a bit cheaper @ Academy. Reviews seems positive with about half of the shooters using this in various ARs.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=366197

It is expensive still, but it's readily available.

K. Foster
09-17-2011, 07:35
Thanks for the link. It looks like Hornady is no longer using steel cases for their ‘Training’ ammo.