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Aceman
09-18-2011, 20:46
Inspired by a couple of responses to my bug out bag thread.

The following items were mentioed:

Wash Rag: Never thought of that - but I can immediately see the value!

Nail clippers: Not something I'd think about, but i would be hating life after a week if I couldn't.


What other items would you say seem non-essential, but could really make life much more pleasant - or very unpleasant with out them! While perhaps not life-threatening...

Big Bird
09-18-2011, 21:14
Tooth brush. No matter how bad things get--they will get a lot worse if you don't take care of you mouth. Surviving a catastrophe sucks real bad--but with a toothache? You need to brush your teeth regardless.

cowboy1964
09-18-2011, 21:58
I could go a few weeks without clipping nails. Plus you have small knife blades and a file on your multi-tool.

Hour13
09-18-2011, 22:20
Toilet paper. Scissors to cut hair/trim beard. Tweezers. Butt-loads of wet-wipes.

Outside of that, some form of entertainment. Books, porn, boardgames, deck of cards... whatever floats yer boat.

We always think of the "action" involved in a SHTF situation. Attackers, securing a food/water source, etc... But the fact is, once you reach a safe area and hole up, things are gonna get real dull, real quick.

Five things that will seriously ****** with your head;

1) Fear
2) Thirst
3) Hunger.
4) Fatigue.
5) Sheer boredom.

Oh, and a pillow. A pillow would be nice...
:supergrin:

UtahIrishman
09-18-2011, 22:25
A deck of playing cards comes to mind.

DJ Niner
09-18-2011, 22:36
A small notepad and writing implement(s). Useful for recording general observations, thoughts, things to do later, maps/lay-of-land/directions, people movements, resources seen while moving through an area, storage caches for future use, areas to avoid, etc. Many, many uses.

Hour13
09-18-2011, 22:41
A small notepad and writing implement(s). Useful for recording general observations, thoughts, things to do later, maps/lay-of-land/directions, people movements, resources seen while moving through an area, storage caches for future use, areas to avoid, etc. Many, many uses.

^^^ This! Didn't even think of that, but it makes perfect sense. It'd take me all of an hour to wish I'd packed a pen & pad. :wow:

TangoFoxtrot
09-19-2011, 03:11
To add to DJ's pen and pad also add a marker to leave messages to followers if you need to be found (or not).

RatDrall
09-19-2011, 05:11
After learning to make and use a bow-drill to make a fire, I never take for granted ferro rods, lighters, matches, etc.

Same thing for containers, they suck to make and are crude when forced into it. A stainless steel canteen is probably what I would give up last. Drinking directly from ponds or creeks is not cool...

pugman
09-19-2011, 06:24
^^^ This! Didn't even think of that, but it makes perfect sense. It'd take me all of an hour to wish I'd packed a pen & pad. :wow:

To add to DJ's pen and pad also add a marker to leave messages to followers if you need to be found (or not).


I would trade in the pen for a pencil.

Pens break, explode ink on everything, run in the rain, dry out.

part of my kit are two golfers pencils

My item: chapstick. I would have gone with Bird's toothbrush/paste first. I have moved myself and others thousands of miles. NOTHING makes me feel better than stopping at a truck stop and brushing my teeth.

kirgi08
09-22-2011, 11:12
sun glasses.'08.

yukon2004
09-22-2011, 11:20
Nice pen that will be reliable. Take extra refills.

http://www.spacepen.com/images/products/detail/Trekker%20725B__GC%20Version_900.jpg

http://www.spacepen.com/trekker-1.aspx

Good notebooks:

http://www.riteintherain.com/images/military/973T-MXlr.jpg

http://www.riteintherain.com/default.aspx

G29Reload
09-22-2011, 11:31
Matches. Yeah, you can rub two sticks together, but when you need it in a hurry...

Salt. Bland food sucks. So does dehydration after an afternoon hike...or bug out.


Shoes/boots. Mall's closed, people...and it aint comin' back.

Bilbo Bagins
09-22-2011, 11:37
Toilet paper. Scissors to cut hair/trim beard. Tweezers. Butt-loads of wet-wipes.

Outside of that, some form of entertainment. Books, porn, boardgames, deck of cards... whatever floats yer boat.

We always think of the "action" involved in a SHTF situation. Attackers, securing a food/water source, etc... But the fact is, once you reach a safe area and hole up, things are gonna get real dull, real quick.

Five things that will seriously ****** with your head;

1) Fear
2) Thirst
3) Hunger.
4) Fatigue.
5) Sheer boredom.

Oh, and a pillow. A pillow would be nice...
:supergrin:


+1 on the pillow. I have a stuff sack in my BOB that is waterproof nylon on the outside and fleece lined on the inside. Pull it inside out and stuff it with extra clothing, crunched up paper, leaves, or whatever and you have a decent pillow.

http://www.rei.com/product/795043/rei-pillow-stuff-sack

I also agree with the wipes, soap, a toothbrush, and maybe a deck of cards or a book.

jellis11
09-22-2011, 11:40
I have a few pairs of socks stuffed on various bags. I hate wet feet.

quake
09-22-2011, 14:51
Have to agree with toilet paper & wet-wipes. I'm not as tough & invulnerable as I used to be. (Or at least used to think I was...)

...My item: chapstick.
The light-blue medicated chapstick is also good for putting on small cuts, scrapes, etc to help prevent infections. Same medications (camphor and menthol iirc) that kill viruses and micro-bugs on the mouth kills them elsewhere as well. My normal treatment for a minor cut when out & about is simply let bleed a little, clean as best possible, chapstick & then krazy glue. Works pretty well when you're out away from things.

puckhead
09-22-2011, 16:16
Dont forget medications, especially if you have something bad like asthma or diabetes.

Hour13
09-22-2011, 19:24
I have a few pairs of socks stuffed on various bags. I hate wet feet.

This! ^^^

Lol, I'll probably be carrying more weight in socks, than in ammo. Kinda OCD bout socks. I change 'em twice a day, sort 'em by the wear from my feet left & right, and I buy ONLY "GoldToe" brand. The only socks I've ever had that don't creep down & bunch up in my shoes.

My "sock thing" provides my GF with endless entertainment. When she wants to screw with me, she only folds and puts away my 'left' socks, and hides the rest.

AAAAAAAARGH!!!!
:steamed:

JimIsland
09-22-2011, 19:32
Floss, Q tips, my trusty handheld GPS with pleny of batteries among just a few.

Pro 2A
09-23-2011, 13:14
This! ^^^
I buy ONLY "GoldToe" brand. The only socks I've ever had that don't creep down & bunch up in my shoes.


Go to a sporting goods store and get the socks intended for soccer players. I used to only buy Goldtoe till I found these!! They last WAY WAY longer than Goldtoe, are slightly thicker and they stay up! I get the black ones, but they come in various colors too. :thumbsup:

Hour13
09-24-2011, 00:58
Go to a sporting goods store and get the socks intended for soccer players. I used to only buy Goldtoe till I found these!! They last WAY WAY longer than Goldtoe, are slightly thicker and they stay up! I get the black ones, but they come in various colors too. :thumbsup:

:supergrin::supergrin::supergrin:

Thanks! I'll definitely try that. Love how they stay in place, but ya, they really don't last very long.

Dexters
09-24-2011, 06:32
Wet Ones

Jake514
09-26-2011, 06:48
:supergrin::supergrin::supergrin:

Thanks! I'll definitely try that. Love how they stay in place, but ya, they really don't last very long.

I recently found Under Armor socks - black ones that are great in hot weather.

barbedwiresmile
09-26-2011, 08:14
Tobacco. Many of the great survival stories of history hinged on the sweet leaf. Staves off hunger, soothes nerves, emboldens the spirit.

kirgi08
09-26-2011, 09:47
1000lbs sealed,We live in NC btw.'08. :whistling:

quake
09-26-2011, 11:49
Tobacco. Many of the great survival stories of history hinged on the sweet leaf. Staves off hunger, soothes nerves, emboldens the spirit.

Some will frown on this, but in addition to the attributes you list, it's also one of the adult personal indulgences that doesn't leave a person inebriated or otherwise incapacitated to one degree or another. And as we're talking about survival 'luxuries', I'd put it right there in the list, even for that reason alone.

Hour13
09-26-2011, 18:22
Some will frown on this, but in addition to the attributes you list, it's also one of the adult personal indulgences that doesn't leave a person inebriated or otherwise incapacitated to one degree or another. And as we're talking about survival 'luxuries', I'd put it right there in the list, even for that reason alone.

This is one that, for me, goes without saying. If SHTF, I'm more likely to forget my gun & food, than my smokes. :whistling:

Dexters
09-26-2011, 19:42
This is one that, for me, goes without saying. If SHTF, I'm more likely to forget my gun & food, than my smokes. :whistling:

Smokes also give away your position and are pretty bad for aerobic activity.

Hour13
09-26-2011, 20:02
Smokes also give away your position

If I'm hiding in a bush, trying not to be seen, that WON'T be the time for me to kick back and enjoy a smoke. However, when I'm in my car, getting the hell outta there, that stoke is going to be mighty tasty. And once at my safe spot, I'll smoke 'em at my leisure. :cool:


pretty bad for aerobic activity.

So is being overweight(which I'm not), or just out of shape from spending 9hrs a day behind a desk(which I don't).

I smoke, sure. But my job is a daily 8hr workout. When you spend your days pulling engines, replacing entire suspension systems, hand fabricating custom steel body panels, and breaking loose 45yr old rusted-in bolts... Stamina? I have it in spades.

bdcochran
09-26-2011, 22:23
A needle for splinters.
mosquito repellant
mesh screen for head gear.

G29Reload
09-26-2011, 22:55
Some will frown on this, but in addition to the attributes you list, it's also one of the adult personal indulgences that doesn't leave a person inebriated or otherwise incapacitated to one degree or another. And as we're talking about survival 'luxuries', I'd put it right there in the list, even for that reason alone.



I wouldnt. They go stale and worthless in a matter of months. No legs at all on storage. Need to be fresh.

RatDrall
09-27-2011, 05:33
I wouldnt. They go stale and worthless in a matter of months. No legs at all on storage. Need to be fresh.

SHTF is a lot different from TEOTWAWKI, shorter even.

quake
09-27-2011, 06:29
...They go stale and worthless in a matter of months. No legs at all on storage. Need to be fresh.

I'd say they're better fresh, not necessarily that they need to be. I keep a few cigars in my truck's console in an airtight container; a little one from pelican or some such, just to keep a few handy so I can grab one without going back into the house if I'm out by the burn pile, etc.

Not the best storage for them - and I do have a humidor in the house - but works surprisingly well for non-premium cigars. The good ones, I've never got to last real well, but the over-the-counter ones wrapped in cellophane do better. And as long as we're talking strictly about luxury or indulgence item, I'd rather have a semi-stale cigar than no cigar.

Fwiw, pipe tobacco is better for storage as it's much drier (or at least should be kept much drier). I have a couple pipes, but very rarely use either as pipes are inherently somewhat of a hassle imo.

The guy who "needs" his cigarettes is in trouble imo. I'm just a guy who enjoys a smoke on occasion; less than one a week on average.


[edit - a link on pipe tobacco storage. It really does lend itself better to storage than cigars and (probably) cigarettes. ]

Dexters
09-27-2011, 06:44
If I'm hiding in a bush, trying not to be seen, that WON'T be the time for me to kick back and enjoy a smoke. However, when I'm in my car, getting the hell outta there, that stoke is going to be mighty tasty. And once at my safe spot, I'll smoke 'em at my leisure. :cool:


Car good. But, I don't think most people know how far smoke travels.


So is being overweight(which I'm not), or just out of shape from spending 9hrs a day behind a desk(which I don't).

I smoke, sure. But my job is a daily 8hr workout. When you spend your days pulling engines, replacing entire suspension systems, hand fabricating custom steel body panels, and breaking loose 45yr old rusted-in bolts... Stamina? I have it in spades.

I just changed a lot of fluids - oil, transmission, axle on my 2000 Dodge Dakota 4x4 - not fun - but it runs and pulls great after 140K miles.

1 old 0311
09-27-2011, 13:58
Toilet paper. Scissors to cut hair/trim beard. Tweezers. Butt-loads of wet-wipes.

Outside of that, some form of entertainment. Books, porn, boardgames, deck of cards... whatever floats yer boat.

We always think of the "action" involved in a SHTF situation. Attackers, securing a food/water source, etc... But the fact is, once you reach a safe area and hole up, things are gonna get real dull, real quick.

Five things that will seriously ****** with your head;

1) Fear
2) Thirst
3) Hunger.
4) Fatigue.
5) Sheer boredom.

Oh, and a pillow. A pillow would be nice...
:supergrin:


The first time i was medivaced I stole a inflatable pillow from the U.S.S. Repose. I drug it around the DMZ for months.

Hour13
09-27-2011, 19:19
Car good. But, I don't think most people know how far smoke travels.

No further than body odor, or meat being cooked on an open fire. Stinky feet, dropping a deuce, sound/smell of car engine/generator running...

If SHTF ends up with us being over-run by mutant bloodhounds, I'll worry bout crap like that. Otherwise...

"Gotta enjoy the little things."
:supergrin:

Dexters
09-27-2011, 19:47
No further than body odor, or meat being cooked on an open fire. Stinky feet, dropping a deuce, sound/smell of car engine/generator running...

If SHTF ends up with us being over-run by mutant bloodhounds, I'll worry bout crap like that. Otherwise...

"Gotta enjoy the little things."
:supergrin:

Either you have not been in the outdoors or you have serious olfactory problems?

Cooking meat = stinky feet!

alexanderg23
09-27-2011, 20:03
Cigs could become dang good bartering tools, just a good a some good moonshine.

Hour13
09-27-2011, 23:27
Either you have not been in the outdoors or you have serious olfactory problems?

Cooking meat = stinky feet!

Not sure I'm following the feet=meat bit, but I actually do spend quite a bit of time in the great outdoors. Mostly just camping & hiking/horsebacking, as of late. Though I've done my share of rappelling/rock climbing, WW rafting, etc...

What I'm saying is, I'm not gonna be a sniper behind enemy lines, hiding in a damn tree, trying not to give away my position. My friend Ron has property out 30mi north of Pipe Creek. TX. That's the go-to zone for all of us. Secluded, hard as hell to get to, and between all of us... We aren't gonna hold off a Military invasion, lol, but random people/mobs?

Good luck. :supergrin:

If you use your supreme tracking skills to trace back the smell of my smoke, you'll find it drifting up from behind a scope. At which point you'll be relieved of the heavy burden of whatever supplies you're carrying, at sent on your merry way.
:whistling:

dogchild
09-28-2011, 14:30
Depending on how long bugout might last, you might consider a Farmers Almanac.
Instructions on how to make LYE, your going to need it to decompose human waste, and dead things around your compound area.
You can make soap and concrete with lye as well

Hour13
09-28-2011, 20:11
Depending on how long bugout might last, you might consider a Farmers Almanac.
Instructions on how to make LYE, your going to need it to decompose human waste, and dead things around your compound area.
You can make soap and concrete with lye as well

That's damn good thinking man. I have one my dad gave me years ago, I've never gone through it. You have my curiosity piqued now, think I'll give it a read through soon...

Aceman
09-28-2011, 20:27
Ummm - Socks and Matches are things i would put in the necessity pile: Fire and clothing....Unless you are striking out into SHTF barefoot and without fire tools!

Meds too. Not really a luxury. Fishoil tablets....ginseng for the green tea maybe - but not necessary meds. They are by definition necessary!

JDSTG58
09-29-2011, 11:03
........

Toorop
09-29-2011, 22:20
I always keep a small lightweight chess set in the car. I think something to keep your mind off things and let you escape is invaluable. A Bible or other religious book is also good. I think something that lets your mind get some rest.

As far as other items, I like the nail clippers and washcloth idea. Not only that but maybe something like spices to cook. Something for extra flavor and to spruce up your day.

Jake514
10-04-2011, 18:19
Go to a sporting goods store and get the socks intended for soccer players. I used to only buy Goldtoe till I found these!! They last WAY WAY longer than Goldtoe, are slightly thicker and they stay up! I get the black ones, but they come in various colors too. :thumbsup:

Previously I used Gold Toe. I got some of the Heat Armour socks and they are tops! I was very skeptical on paying that much for socks, but now I am a believer in their socks.