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tusk212
09-23-2011, 13:12
Just curious what level vests you guys wear. We are getting new vest the meet the NIJ .06 standard and are going with the level 2. In my understanding, which is limited, the new level 2 are pretty close to the old 3A under the old standards.

DaBigBR
09-23-2011, 13:23
I'm wearing a IIIA. It "expires" next year, so I'll probably buy a .06 IIIA then.

Bodyarmorguy
09-23-2011, 13:27
Just curious what level vests you guys wear. We are getting new vest the meet the NIJ .06 standard and are going with the level 2. In my understanding, which is limited, the new level 2 are pretty close to the old 3A under the old standards.

Your assumption is a valid one. We previously issued a level II vest and under the new standard transitioned to a IIA.

imaguy3
09-23-2011, 13:28
I got my new vest in Jan. and that's pretty much how they explained the new standards to me as well... My old was a level 3A but I went with the level 2 on the new one... it's just as thick as my old one :-(

here's a good review of the changes made... http://www.chiefsupply.com/resources/body-armor-nij-010106.aspx

collim1
09-23-2011, 14:18
I am issued a IIA

Horror
09-23-2011, 14:48
Level IIIA

Patchman
09-23-2011, 16:24
Level IIIA also.

x_out86
09-23-2011, 17:17
IIIA that is .06 compliant. Just got it earlier this year. Point Blank C-Series.

tusk212
09-23-2011, 18:04
Have to admit, kind of second guessing myself for sticking with the level II and not going up to the IIIA.

Patchman
09-23-2011, 19:17
I am issued a IIA

A IIA? Not a typo? Time to upgrade brother.

GackMan
09-23-2011, 20:12
IIIA - mandatory level.

CAcop
09-23-2011, 20:36
IIIA that needed replacement last year. I wasn't put on the list because I was off on worker's comp. It's good old fashioned Kevlar so I know it will still stop bullets a decade from now.

Cav
09-23-2011, 21:03
Level 2 issued for me.

Bodyarmorguy
09-23-2011, 21:24
A IIA? Not a typo? Time to upgrade brother.

Not necessarily.....many factors come into play, the materials used in the armor package, the special threat testing done on that package, review of the realistic threats, etc. I spent 4 years working in the armor industry before returning to law enforcement. I have personally shot the .06 compliant IIA package that my agency issues against a variety of special threats and found it to perform as well, if not better than some of the .05 compliant II packages.

blueiron
09-23-2011, 21:51
Level 3A back in the day.

Sharky7
09-23-2011, 22:12
Level IIIa, made last year, safariland brand, not sure if it is .06 or not and not even sure what the new .06 requirements mean.

I also use a titanium hard trauma plate with a soft trauma plate in front of it.

I went with the II when I first got on and had that vest for about 6 or 7 years. Just too much going on lately, lots of shootings in the area, police and non police involved. Been on a chase ending where we had shots fired off by bad guy and heard the pops a handful of times this summer responding to calls....I'm still very active and don't see slowing down anytime soon..want to make sure I have every advantage. Worth the extra weight to me.

Agent6-3/8
09-23-2011, 22:42
Last time I wore a vest it was a IIIA. My next one will be a IIIA as well, Lord willing I find a job! Vest in general are hot and mildly uncomfortable (some might argue very) no matter what level you get. Mine never really bothered me and I want all the protection I can get. I know I'm a wierdo, but I always found the feel of my vest quite comforting.

Chowser
09-24-2011, 05:23
currently wearing a IIA. Standardized the department on level II with the NIJ06 standards. Issued weapon is a Glock 31 in .357SIG.

Funny thing is, my .05 standard IIA vest will stop our issued rounds, but everyone has to have level II now. IIIA is an option if the officer wishes.

Morris
09-24-2011, 07:38
IIIA meeting the .06 standard.

Aux Bear
09-24-2011, 08:29
IIA is the standard issue. Many of us bought our own and went the IIIA route. I like the "extra" security and my Halo (IIIA)is lighter and thinner than the issued IIAs.

denn1911
09-24-2011, 21:45
My department issued everyone a level IIIA.

danielspdx
09-24-2011, 22:26
IIIA

The first one I got was a super thick and heavy Safariland one with a canvas like carrier. They got thinner and thinner until I had a super thin ABA XtremeX which was recalled within a year. Now they seem to be getting thicker again. My newest one is a Second Chance IIIA and it's bulky.

djm392
09-25-2011, 00:08
Since its city issued I assume somebody sold it and I've been wearing cardboard :violin:

DaBigBR
09-25-2011, 01:46
Last time I wore a vest it was a IIIA. My next one will be a IIIA as well, Lord willing I find a job! Vest in general are hot and mildly uncomfortable (some might argue very) no matter what level you get. Mine never really bothered me and I want all the protection I can get. I know I'm a wierdo, but I always found the feel of my vest quite comforting.

I won't wear the uniform without it. Stuff just doesn't fit right.

COLOSHOOTR
09-25-2011, 03:19
I go with IIIA for one reason.... In this job you're more likely to be killed by blunt trauma from an accident rather then a gunshot. The IIIA vest offers better blunt impact protection then a level II vest. Yes, they are heavier and a little bulkier but you get used to it and it won't be a big deal just like the first time you ever had to wear a vest of any level, at first it sucks then you get used to it and can deal with it. Just remember that little bit of extra weight might save your tail someday when your car gets tagged by that DUI driver who was attracted to the pretty lights...


As a little extra note. Some claim a IIIA is hotter then a II and I call BS on that! If they have ever made the switch and think a II or IIA is cooler it's all in their heads. 20 layers of a material thats thick heavy and does not breath is going to trap just as much heat as 30 layers of the same thick heavy material (I don't know how many layers are in each so just a random example).

Hack
09-25-2011, 03:22
On armed trips, IIIA. Inside, spike level 2 or 3, something like that.

Ajon412
09-25-2011, 03:53
Not necessarily.....many factors come into play, the materials used in the armor package, the special threat testing done on that package, review of the realistic threats, etc. I spent 4 years working in the armor industry before returning to law enforcement. I have personally shot the .06 compliant IIA package that my agency issues against a variety of special threats and found it to perform as well, if not better than some of the .05 compliant II packages.

I'm issued a IIA but purchased my own IIIA. On a side note(since you're in the "biz") I have a Reliance Armor Systems vest and they've since gone out of business (2006). Any suggestions on where to look for a replacement carrier?

pal2511
09-25-2011, 07:34
IIIA. US armor XLT. Very nice vest