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ALBin517
09-27-2011, 10:56
I have been shooting 9mm FMJs and am pretty happy with them. My only complaint is the raggedy hole they make in paper targets.

I don’t feel like I’m always getting a fair shake at the scoring table. (Triples might become doubles, for example).
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Does anybody have a suggestion of a 145-grain 9mm bullet (preferably jacketed) that makes a better hole punch?

Zombie Steve
09-27-2011, 11:11
Unless you go with a wadcutter or semi-wadcutter, they will leave ragged holes. It's going to be hard to find in 9mm and especially jacketed.

Shoot a 1911 and you'll have tons of options. :whistling:

ALBin517
09-27-2011, 12:24
That’s the thing. Lots of guys in my group shoot revolvers with wad cutters that are easy to score.
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Then I walk up with my torn target and scorers act like I’m an inconvenience… like they are not going to give me the benefit of the doubt because I’m making their job tougher by shooting a Glock with FMJs.

GioaJack
09-27-2011, 12:32
Tell your guys to buy scoring plugs... it's part of their job.


Jack

dwhite53
09-27-2011, 12:38
You can get semi-wadcutters in .40 also. Missouri bullet makes a great 170 grain LSWC bullet that I've had good results with. Nice round holes too.

All the Best,
D. White

fredj338
09-27-2011, 12:53
Tell your guys to buy scoring plugs... it's part of their job.


Jack

It depends on the comp Jack. In IDPA, scoring rings are forbidden, but doubt is supposed to go to the shooter. It's pretty easy to score a cardboard target regardless of what bullet is used. There is always a caliber smudge. The SO/RO just has to know what he is doing.:dunno:
To the OP, you need a SWC if you want clean caliber holes, & they are tough to come by in 9mm unless you go w/ something like the Lee 105gr or 140gr 38 & size em down a bit & then hopefully get them to feed.

ALBin517
09-27-2011, 13:10
We used to shoot cardboard and the scorer could just flip them over and figure it out 99% of the time.

But we now shoot paper targets on the "healing" foam backers.

GioaJack
09-27-2011, 13:12
My old mind only thinks of bullseye targets... I'm not uses to shooting at things the size of refrigerator boxes. :whistling:


Jack

mknpwr
09-27-2011, 13:17
I know that you are looking for a 147g swc in FMJ but Missouri Bullet does make a 125g LSWC in 9mm. I shoot them out of my Glock 19 with a stock barrel with no issues YMMV.

ron59
09-27-2011, 13:38
That’s the thing. Lots of guys in my group shoot revolvers with wad cutters that are easy to score.
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Then I walk up with my torn target and scorers act like I’m an inconvenience… like they are not going to give me the benefit of the doubt because I’m making their job tougher by shooting a Glock with FMJs.

What organization? I don't see ANY attitude about 9mm or Glocks in the IDPA or USPSA around here. People with an attitude about something like that wouldn't phase me anyway... I'd tell them to piss off in a heartbeat.

ALBin517
09-27-2011, 14:59
What organization? I don't see ANY attitude about 9mm or Glocks in the IDPA or USPSA around here. People with an attitude about something like that wouldn't phase me anyway... I'd tell them to piss off in a heartbeat.

I volunteer for my local sheriff reserve and the whole state association gets together for a shoot, twice a year.
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The competition has not changed since the black and white days:
* Only load six rounds at a time
* Very slow courses of fire (allowed 2-5 seconds per round)
* No minimum power factor
* Most shots are 25 yards
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So the vast majority of competitive guys lob marshmallow wadcutter loads with 6” revolvers.

ron59
09-27-2011, 15:44
I volunteer for my local sheriff reserve and the whole state association gets together for a shoot, twice a year.
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The competition has not changed since the black and white days:
* Only load six rounds at a time
* Very slow courses of fire (allowed 2-5 seconds per round)
* No minimum power factor
* Most shots are 25 yards
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So the vast majority of competitive guys lob marshmallow wadcutter loads with 6” revolvers.

Yep.... guess you're in a whole different world then. So get yourself a 6" .357 revolver and start loading wadcutter .38s ?

ALBin517
09-27-2011, 17:11
Our county does ride-alongs with Glocks so I'd rather practice with that platform whenever possible.

Might just have to settle for being at a disadvantage with the shooting competition though.

fredj338
09-27-2011, 17:11
I volunteer for my local sheriff reserve and the whole state association gets together for a shoot, twice a year.
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The competition has not changed since the black and white days:
* Only load six rounds at a time
* Very slow courses of fire (allowed 2-5 seconds per round)
* No minimum power factor
* Most shots are 25 yards
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So the vast majority of competitive guys lob marshmallow wadcutter loads with 6” revolvers.

Good ole PPC, home of the 6"bbl 38sp & wadcutters.:supergrin:

Zombie Steve
09-27-2011, 21:04
My old mind only thinks of bullseye targets... I'm not uses to shooting at things the size of refrigerator boxes. :whistling:


Jack



Jackie boy... you should come down and shoot with me and Stevie this weekend and watch how fast he can miss!

GioaJack
09-27-2011, 21:41
Jackie boy... you should come down and shoot with me and Stevie this weekend and watch how fast he can miss!


I will be in Texas seeing my Little Snookums... shooting is the last thing on my mind. :supergrin:


Jack

Zombie Steve
09-27-2011, 22:17
I need to go to bed. I just read "seeding my Little Snookums".

If I hadn't met your grandkids, I'd be nauseated at the idea of you procreating.

The idea of you attempting now makes me want to find the inventor of Viagra and punch him in the teeth.

ron59
09-28-2011, 04:51
I need to go to bed. I just read "seeding my Little Snookums".

If I hadn't met your grandkids, I'd be nauseated at the idea of you procreating.

The idea of you attempting now makes me want to find the inventor of Viagra and punch him in the teeth.

Left cross for you.... give him a haymaker from me.

MisterLady27
09-28-2011, 09:06
Good ole PPC, home of the 6"bbl 38sp & wadcutters.:supergrin:

Howdy All,

1. You big whiners, be glad your state association, etc is shooting----

2. The LEO organizations go on golf outings when they get together up here. Uugh.

ML27

Colorado4Wheel
09-28-2011, 09:17
Cops are generally not shooters. My brother gets ammo from a lot of them because they don't want to use it and have need to clean their gun.

ALBin517
09-28-2011, 20:08
Some cops think they should be paid to shoot more often.

fredj338
09-29-2011, 00:12
Some cops think they should be paid to shoot more often.

Too many cops think that now days, sad but true. Mediocrety is alive & well in public service these days.:sigh: No offense to those that don't think that way.

ALBin517
09-29-2011, 05:43
We reservists joke about being their body guards when we ride along. Because many of us shoot as much as we can while they shoot only as much as they have to, the best reservist shooters are superior to the best certified shooters (at least in our county... and against paper targets).

tahco gunworks
09-30-2011, 07:48
I've used both Missouri lead in the 124 grain SWC and their 147 subsonics. The SWC's leave horrible holes (torn paper like pushing your finger through it) unless you push them really fast, yet the sub sonics cut a nice even hole out of the paper, even at pretty low speeds.

I'm shooting them out of either a G 17C or a G 17L and have found the above true time and time again, and yes, its out of the stock barrels and I haven't blown up one yet..... :whistling:

chris in va
10-02-2011, 22:51
The Lee 358-125-RF makes a decently round cutout in the paper, yet still feeds fine in my CZ.

noylj
10-02-2011, 23:47
I love 115gn L-SWCs, 0.356-0.357", in 9x19 and .38 Super. Missouri Bullets' 125gn L-SWC looks very nice.
Some of those IDPA minor loads are so soft, the bullets could bounce off the cardboard.
Outside of a SWC, you are stuck with the black ring around your hole for scoring.

ALBin517
10-04-2011, 18:15
How would JHPs compare to FMJs?

Better? Same? Worse?

PhantomF4E
10-04-2011, 19:35
It's funny how a hobby or something you love to do, can become a PITA when you have to do it as part of your job.