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Leightonpd2
09-28-2011, 05:35
We have had "what type of duty handgun do you carry" threads. As you know, most replies are a Glock, M&P, or Sig type handgun.

Who out there carries something different than most? Either by choice or issue. New Officer here carries a Colt Double Eagle .45 ACP. Otherwise, it is Glocks in various calibers, 1 Beretta, 1 Sig P-220 .45ACP and a M&P .40.

MeefZah
09-28-2011, 06:20
I have, over the past years, carried a Ruger P89 and P90, and Taurus PT92, in addition to the normal Smith 6906, Glocks and Sig.

I actually really liked the Taurus, I credit it with getting me interested in shooting again, since I could shoot it so well it motivated me to train more and become even more proficient. Prior to that, I carried .40 cal Glocks which I was, honestly, awful with.

The Taurus went by the wayside when the locking block broke on a range course. Taurus did replace it for free, and quickly, but I lost faith and sold the gun. I replaced it with a G17, later a G19, and haven't looked back. I acknowledge the Taurus is a sub-quality gun, but it was always a good piece for me up until the block broke at around 5,000 rounds.

I wouldn't carry another off-brand gun again, plus I am really happy with the 9mm Glock platform.

UrbanOps
09-28-2011, 06:26
I'd be carrying my FNX if Safariland made an ALS holster for it. I'm carrying the typical 226R + TLR combo.

The majority of our guys carry Glocks. There is, however, an XD and a Sig 229 thrown in there.

GD2J
09-28-2011, 06:57
The Goochland County Sheriff's Office here in central Virginia all carry issued HK45's.

DaBigBR
09-28-2011, 08:32
Top shooter in my academy class carried a PT92, nickel plated. He won top shooter by chopping the tritirum hand off of his watch and gluing it on the front sight for night shoot. Now THAT is salty.

madecov
09-28-2011, 08:49
I have qualified with my
Steyr M40A1
Walther P99
Walther PPS

I have carried them all as Duty weapons. Currently using a Gen 4 Glock 23

A6Gator
09-28-2011, 09:30
Top shooter in my academy class carried a PT92, nickel plated. He won top shooter by chopping the tritirum hand off of his watch and gluing it on the front sight for night shoot. Now THAT is salty.

:rofl::rofl: Hardcore!

jwhite75
09-28-2011, 10:02
Not an off brand...but a rare gun. A neighboring sheriff's dept purchased Sig Sauer P226ST in .357 SIG. That is an all stainless frame and slide 226 in .357 Sig. It is NOT a catalog item typically offered. The sheriff is a working sheriff, and a gun nut. When he was elected the dept was him and about 3 deputies. He called Sig and ordered the guns from them directly. They gave him no grief over the order.

As crime began escalating in their county the commission approve hiring of another 6-8 deputies. he called to order more guns and SIG refused to make any more of his original purchase. He took it to the VP of LE Sales and eventually got a call from the head gunsmith in the SIG custom shop taking his order for the new guns. The guns are super heavy for a duty gun, but tame recoil well and are dead nuts accurate.

jwhite75
09-28-2011, 10:05
Top shooter in my academy class carried a PT92, nickel plated. He won top shooter by chopping the tritirum hand off of his watch and gluing it on the front sight for night shoot. Now THAT is salty.


He IS the most interesting cop in the world....LOL

That takes serious stones and will be a story told at the academy for years. LOL:cool:

msu_grad_121
09-28-2011, 10:36
I saw a copper on DPD some years ago with a 3" S&W .357 with an unfluted cylander (blued gun) and custom cut target grips. That always cracked me up.

When I worked on the government contract as a guard, they gave me a 4" 681 (fixed sight 686). That was apparently rare, because the Smith gurus I have talked to have gone as far as denying they even made such a weapon.

Captain Caveman
09-28-2011, 11:07
I saw a copper on DPD some years ago with a 3" S&W .357 with an unfluted cylander (blued gun) and custom cut target grips. That always cracked me up.

When I worked on the government contract as a guard, they gave me a 4" 681 (fixed sight 686). That was apparently rare, because the Smith gurus I have talked to have gone as far as denying they even made such a weapon.


The "681" is by no means rare. It just wasn't made in the same numbers as the "686". Most people prefer the adjustable sights over fixed on the L frames.

ateamer
09-28-2011, 11:10
For a while in the early 90s, we were issued phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range.

msu_grad_121
09-28-2011, 11:20
The "681" is by no means rare. It just wasn't made in the same numbers as the "686". Most people prefer the adjustable sights over fixed on the L frames.

That's what I thought, as the red patch company I worked for was uber-cheap, and would've spent as little as possible on guns, but like I said, some schmuck I worked with who claimed to be a S&W master swore up and down that there was no such animal. :dunno:

lndshark
09-28-2011, 19:53
The Taurus went by the wayside when the locking block broke on a range course. Taurus did replace it for free, and quickly, but I lost faith and sold the gun.

Same here. Bought my PT92 around 1988. Locking block broke with a live round in the chamber @ around the 5,000 round mark. Taurus said to send it back anyway and paid shipping both ways. I never trusted it after that. Sold it and bought a S&W 5904 (wish I still had that gun...it had an early "AIP" serial number). Now carrying a department-issued XD40 Service. Not a really common sidearm in LE, let alone an issued pistol. I like it though, but I'd rather carry my personal G21SF.

Pepper45
09-28-2011, 20:22
I carried a Browning Hi-Power for a couple years, liked it a bunch. Carried it until I started getting pressured to carry a .45

mrsurfboard
09-28-2011, 20:41
We used to carry the gun in my avatar, but the public complained. Too powerful!

CAcop
09-28-2011, 21:14
Does a Colt 1991A1 count? Thats what I currently have.

I have carried a 4506 and P220R which are kind of rare around here but can be found within the state elsewhere.

Chowser
09-28-2011, 22:31
Top shooter in my academy class carried a PT92, nickel plated. He won top shooter by chopping the tritirum hand off of his watch and gluing it on the front sight for night shoot. Now THAT is salty.

haha. reminds me of my academy class. i was top shooter with a nickel plated taurus pt99.

beat the marine with the HK. he says the light reflected off my nickel plated sissy gun causing him to miss a shot.

:rofl:

our area is mostly sig or glock. neighboring pd carries full size HK USPs in .45.

DaBigBR
09-28-2011, 23:28
I carried a Browning Hi-Power for a couple years, liked it a bunch. Carried it until I started getting pressured to carry a .45

I carried my (Yost) BHP on duty for a while. Love that gun.

lndshark
09-29-2011, 07:23
I have carried a 4506 and P220R which are kind of rare around here but can be found within the state elsewhere.

Didn't Palm Springs issue 645s or 4506s at one time? I can remember .45s and SIGs being pretty rare in the South Bay but Riverside County authorized P220s and Inland Empire departments allowing several types of .45-chambered pistols (El Monte, Asuza, etc.).




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ghstface38
09-29-2011, 10:25
We're issued the HK USP .40 Fullsize... not the norm for around here.

CanIhaveGasCash
09-29-2011, 10:58
I recently made the transition from a glock 35 to a Springfield TRP Operator 1911.

zoff12
09-29-2011, 13:11
Back about 20 years ago, I was at a "Law Enforcement Job Fair". There was this one Virginia agency... can't remember which one... that was there. They were carrying HK P7's. It looked odd with full clarino gear. IIRC... the guy carrying it was a Captain or Major. I spoke with him about it and he advised that Administrative and Investigations were issued the P7M8 and Patrol got the P7M13.

JBaird22
09-29-2011, 15:20
Port of Seattle Police used to issue the ol' HK Squeeze cocker. We had 1 guy in our academy class from that agency and we would have to take breaks so his gun would cool down.

Sharkey
09-29-2011, 16:47
Back in 1990 when I got out of Academy, we went to Semi Auto School. Our agency of 150 officers were allowed to carry our own handgun as long as we qualified with it and it was on the "approved" list.

I had an AMT hardballer I wanted to carry but it wasn't on the list. I liked that gun and never had problems with it.

I had a G17 and it was NOT on the list (it was the following year and last I checked, G23 were being issued. I ended up going with a Springfield 1911 govt. in a Safariland SSIII. I caught so much **** for the retention holster until I cam in second in a shooting competition at our range.

We were asking to carry .223 rifles long before the LA shootout and all the research we did fell on deaf ears until after the shootout and then we could carry our personally owned ARs or Mini's after going thru a school.

Only carry as a civvy now and it is either a Kahr Covert or a M&P9c

Some of us were ahead of the curve..............................:whistling:

Hack
09-29-2011, 21:34
Ruger P89.

toddmog
09-29-2011, 22:08
Now carrying a department-issued XD40 Service. Not a really common sidearm in LE, let alone an issued pistol. I like it though, but I'd rather carry my personal G21SF.

We have two reserves that carry XD9's. One is stainless with an OD frame. Another one had an XDm9, but recently switched to a G19. Local PD has a female reserve that carries an XD9 sub compact with the extended mag.

lndshark
09-30-2011, 05:49
We have two reserves that carry XD9's. One is stainless with an OD frame. Another one had an XDm9, but recently switched to a G19. Local PD has a female reserve that carries an XD9 sub compact with the extended mag.

Rumor has it we're transitioning to XD-M's soon...I'm hoping that the caliber selection opens up to include .45...or even 9mm too...

4949shooter
09-30-2011, 09:44
Carried an H&K P7M8 for the first 12 years of my career. The only other agency I knew of that also carried it was Bayonne, NJ PD.

The biggest issue we had with the H&K was the need for refurbishment, and availability of parts.

I had a magazine spring break on my once. While walking up to a car I had stopped I heard a strange sound coming from my weapon. I pulled the magazine out and all the rounds fell to the ground.

The other problem we all had with the guns was the location of the magazine release at the rear of the trigger guard, and the manner in which it protruded. Guys lost a few magazines because the protruding release would get depressed when bumped into car doors, walls, etc. I had a habit of pushing in on the heel of my weapon ensuring the mag was locked in place throughout my shift. I caught it sitting unlocked in the magazine well numerous times.

sargespd
09-30-2011, 19:14
Currently issued an HK USP .45 full size working at an amusement park as a cop. When I started my first PD in 1986, we were issued S&W m657 revolvers, N frame .41mag. I miss that beast.

BamaTrooper
10-01-2011, 08:39
That's what I thought, as the red patch company I worked for was uber-cheap, and would've spent as little as possible on guns, but like I said, some schmuck I worked with who claimed to be a S&W master swore up and down that there was no such animal. :dunno:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ninthstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/681%2520LS.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ninthstage.com/index.php/2006/05/22/smith-wesson-681/&h=236&w=450&sz=31&tbnid=lhuLQjQPEAk4XM:&tbnh=64&tbnw=122&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsmith%2Band%2Bwesson%2B681%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=smith+and+wesson+681&docid=1vyMQ7d2UBC82M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=CCaHTqLXHYOftweUwdy2Dw&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQ9QEwAQ&dur=2406

Show him that:upeyes:

BamaTrooper
10-01-2011, 08:45
Before I went to an agency that issues sidearms, I carried at one time or another,
Ruger Redhawk .44 mag
Smith Model 25 in .45 Colt
Smith 4506

I have seen an officer allowed to carry, and qualified with, a single action Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt. He went whole hog, nickled gun with black SA rig including nickeled cartridges in belt. He did it as a joke, but the funniest thing was watching the mayor come by during an inspection and say, "Now that looks professional!"

Another guy carried a 9x18 Makarov in a military flap holster. On a side note, he accidently shot through the bottomof the holster trying to holster the gun after he cocked the gun.:faint:

A reserve once carried a Stallard .45.:faint::faint:

lndshark
10-01-2011, 11:07
When I worked on the government contract as a guard, they gave me a 4" 681 (fixed sight 686). That was apparently rare, because the Smith gurus I have talked to have gone as far as denying they even made such a weapon.

I had an old 581 for quite a while...it almost looked like a 681 as the bluing was nearly gone :supergrin:

msu_grad_121
10-01-2011, 11:43
Show him that:upeyes:

He's since retired, but I'm bookmarking that image so on the offchance I run into his stoopid ***... Well, it'll be nice to be vindicated. I hated that "Oh, you're young and don't know anything about revolvers, so you must've gotten it wrong" thing.

5madman2
10-01-2011, 15:39
Carry a personal Ruger SR9C in plainclothes on duty. Nice little shooter

The department authorizes on duty carry of personal weapons within policy restrictions-I am the only one that carries anything other than a Glock.

The Chief carries his personal Glock, all others carry what they are issued (Glock 22s). They ***** about them alot, but won't make the investment to carry what they want.

We have made some real strides in the last year on firearms policy and acquisition. New Glocks, new 870s and Eotechs for the rifles. No one seems to want to make the leap to personal weapons.

buddah
10-02-2011, 11:30
I know back in the day, U.S Park Police, Wyoming State Police and New Jersey State Police issued HK P7M8/P7M13 9mm to all personnel. Now thats a unique duty gun.

FM12
10-02-2011, 16:11
Currently carrying a smith/wesson 629 44 mag 4 in bbl, loaded with 44 spl JHPs.

ashtxsniper
10-02-2011, 17:32
I work with a guy who carries a Coonan Arms 357 mag 1911.

Magicmanmb
10-07-2011, 18:37
started w/Model 19 .357
then Smith 659
4506 & finally XD in .45

4506
G22 17 & 19
XD 9,40, & 45acp
Armscor 1911
Anything I can qualify with from .38 to .45acp is allowed except .357sig.

Magicmanmb
10-20-2011, 13:23
Rumor has it we're transitioning to XD-M's soon...I'm hoping that the caliber selection opens up to include .45...or even 9mm too...

Went shooting at the range yesterday with the Chief, qualified with G23, let him shoot my XD 45 & XD(m) in 9mm. After 3 mags of each he walked out put his plastic on the counter & bought 1 of each. Authorized carry on the spot.

@ 25yds he put every 9mm round in the head & every 45 in the 8, 9, or 10 ring. Say what you will they are accurate.

CAcop
10-20-2011, 13:49
Carried an H&K P7M8 for the first 12 years of my career. The only other agency I knew of that also carried it was Bayonne, NJ PD.

You can add Half Moon Bay CA PD to that list. Make that used to. They went under this year and the SO runs the place.

AngryBassets
10-20-2011, 22:03
Carried an H&K P7M8 for the first 12 years of my career. The only other agency I knew of that also carried it was Bayonne, NJ PD.


Up until the mid 1990's, Mantua and Deptford Twps in the south end of the state carried them, too. There's another town that had them in the state, too...had the department name stamped on the side.

youngAR
10-20-2011, 22:41
As of right now, I'm qualified with a CZ Shadow. People talk **** about my "foreign" gun, but when I get through my qual course and it looks as though a small child punched through the paper, their jaw drops.

MAGICMANIA
10-22-2011, 08:27
The Tulsa Police Department issued S&W 681's until the they transitioned to the S&W 4046 then to the Glock 22C. I have my dads old 681 and it shoots great.

BuckyP
10-22-2011, 08:40
Carried an H&K P7M8 for the first 12 years of my career. The only other agency I knew of that also carried it was Bayonne, NJ PD.


Back when I used to work in New Brunswick, NJ, I remember seeing them on a cop or two. :dunno:

packsaddle
10-22-2011, 09:56
1911 in .38 super, cocked and locked 24/7.

nitesite10mm
10-22-2011, 17:10
I'm the only LEO in the entire county that carries either a GLOCK34 or a 5" Gov't 1911-A1 so while neither weapon is that unusual, they are definitely "not the norm" for these parts.

CJStudent
10-22-2011, 17:59
Our issued weapon is a custom variation of a Beretta 92. 92D Vertec Inox. I have yet to see another one outside of my agency that's all of the above.

Bullman
10-22-2011, 19:22
Top shooter in my academy class carried a PT92, nickel plated. He won top shooter by chopping the tritirum hand off of his watch and gluing it on the front sight for night shoot. Now THAT is salty.

Salty indeed. Did anyone ask him what time it was?:supergrin:

Bullman
10-22-2011, 19:24
I work with a guy who carries a Coonan Arms 357 mag 1911.

1911 in .38 super, cocked and locked 24/7.

Now here are a couple of candidates. how hard is it to find .38 super ammo?

Hack
10-22-2011, 20:39
Now here are a couple of candidates. how hard is it to find .38 super ammo?

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&N=0&fsch=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=38+super&x=0&y=0&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/ItemListing.aspx?catid=645

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts.aspx?pageNum=1&tabId=3&categoryId=7512&categoryString=653***691***

dpadams6
10-23-2011, 09:17
Not an off brand...but a rare gun. A neighboring sheriff's dept purchased Sig Sauer P226ST in .357 SIG. That is an all stainless frame and slide 226 in .357 Sig. It is NOT a catalog item typically offered. The sheriff is a working sheriff, and a gun nut. When he was elected the dept was him and about 3 deputies. He called Sig and ordered the guns from them directly. They gave him no grief over the order.

As crime began escalating in their county the commission approve hiring of another 6-8 deputies. he called to order more guns and SIG refused to make any more of his original purchase. He took it to the VP of LE Sales and eventually got a call from the head gunsmith in the SIG custom shop taking his order for the new guns. The guns are super heavy for a duty gun, but tame recoil well and are dead nuts accurate.

I carry the same gun in p229, and absolutely love it. Yeah, its very heavy, but you can tell the quality/durability of it, anmd the weight tames recoil very well.

Magicmanmb
10-23-2011, 12:42
Went shooting at the range yesterday with the Chief, qualified with G23, let him shoot my XD 45 & XD(m) in 9mm. After 3 mags of each he walked out put his plastic on the counter & bought 1 of each. Authorized carry on the spot.

@ 25yds he put every 9mm round in the head & every 45 in the 8, 9, or 10 ring. Say what you will they are accurate.


Forgot the Sigma is no longer authorized for on or off duty carry. You would be surprized how many officers have never even heard of a 4506. They see me at the range with it and all wan't to take a turn. Can not believe how little recoil or how heavy. I would still put it up against pretty much any pistol out there.