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norton
10-08-2011, 12:42
Just got my Lee mold this week for the .44 mag 310 grain RF bullet. Loaded them with 15.0 grains of 2400. The Lyman cast manual stated the OAL would be long but should work with most revolvers. This is my 629, you can see they are about as long as they will function. Average of 910 on my chrony.
Shot well, fairly soft since this is the starting load.

Anyone else shoot this bullet?

sig357fan
10-08-2011, 15:10
yup, shoot'em through my scoped TC Super 14 Contender, easily holds a 2" group at 50 yards with the right load, Bambi don't stand a chance this fall!

sig357fan

Colorado4Wheel
10-08-2011, 15:26
If Jack was here he would have something clever to say.

Tom in Arizona
10-08-2011, 17:09
Shot it for a long time in 44 Mag. thru 629's, TC Contenders, and Marlin 1894 lever action, and in 444 Marlin in TC Encore and Marlin 444 lever action. The one have is the gas checked version and it works well.

WiskyT
10-08-2011, 18:46
Just got my Lee mold this week for the .44 mag 310 grain RF bullet. Loaded them with 15.0 grains of 2400. The Lyman cast manual stated the OAL would be long but should work with most revolvers. This is my 629, you can see they are about as long as they will function. Average of 910 on my chrony.
Shot well, fairly soft since this is the starting load.

Anyone else shoot this bullet?

44Mag for $4.00 a box. Buffalo Bore would get about $30.00 for 20 of those.

Tom in Arizona
10-08-2011, 18:54
Average of 910 on my chrony.
Shot well, fairly soft since this is the starting load.

That's about where you will want to be with the 629's for a regular load.

VN350X10
10-08-2011, 19:37
What alloy gives the 310 gr. weight ?
I've used heavier (328 gr w/Lyman #2 alloy) but I think they're from a custom mold. Got them from a bud who only shoots cast.
The 8" Anaconda & the 10" Dan Wesson love them.
Bambi will not.

uncle albert

norton
10-08-2011, 20:57
If I'm staying under 1000 fps can I get away with not using a gas check with this bullet?

Tom in Arizona
10-08-2011, 21:06
If I'm staying under 1000 fps can I get away with not using a gas check with this bullet?
That will depend upon the hardness of your alloy, how it obtuates and fits your bore, and the lube you are using.

I don't have a formula for it, only trial and error. I have not shot it with out a gas check as I have a mold for 240 grain plain base for that purpose. My alloy is a pretty hard mystery metal from some industrial splatter that someone gave me.

WiskyT
10-09-2011, 08:12
Regarding GC, is it a GC mold? I have never shot a GC mold bullet with or without the GC. I have only read opposing views on whether a GC mold bullet can be shot well without a GC and don't know the answer.

In terms of velocity, IME, powder choice is the biggest factor in pistols. Slow powders don't need GC even when you run them as fast as you can. I shoot 158's at 1,300fps with soft alloy in 357 using 2400 and get no leading using a plain base bullet. If I used a max charge of Bullseye with the same bullet, it would make a real mess of things.

norton
10-09-2011, 08:27
Regarding GC, is it a GC mold? I have never shot a GC mold bullet with or without the GC. I have only read opposing views on whether a GC mold bullet can be shot well without a GC and don't know the answer.

In terms of velocity, IME, powder choice is the biggest factor in pistols. Slow powders don't need GC even when you run them as fast as you can. I shoot 158's at 1,300fps with soft alloy in 357 using 2400 and get no leading using a plain base bullet. If I used a max charge of Bullseye with the same bullet, it would make a real mess of things.

Yes, it's a GC mold. I read the Lyman cast bullet manual about GC's and it appears to be a "well, maybe" kind of question and answer. I think I will order some gc's and try them. Will use a Lee sizing die to attach the GC's.

WiskyT
10-09-2011, 08:48
Yes, it's a GC mold. I read the Lyman cast bullet manual about GC's and it appears to be a "well, maybe" kind of question and answer. I think I will order some gc's and try them. Will use a Lee sizing die to attach the GC's.

The Lee die will attach GC's, I never tried it, but from the Lee product info and all I have read online, it works.

Fred probably has good expirience using GC design bullets with and without the checks installed. I have deliberately avoided GC design bullets because I'm cheap and I have had very good results with plain base bullets. You could always get a PB mold for general use and use your GC heavy bullet for elephant hunting. You'll buy more molds before you leave this Earth that's for sure.

Tom in Arizona
10-09-2011, 09:08
Will use a Lee sizing die to attach the GC's.
Yes, that is what I use to size all of my cast bullets and seat gas checks at the same time.

Really easy to use and you don't need a top punches for particular bullet styles like the other bullet sizing systems do.

You should lube your bullets before sizing with the Lee die and I lube again after sizing with Lee Liquid Alox and/or Rooster Jacket Liquid Bullet Film.

norton
10-09-2011, 09:37
Yes, that is what I use to size all of my cast bullets and seat gas checks at the same time.

Really easy to use and you don't need a top punches for particular bullet styles like the other bullet sizing systems do.

You should lube your bullets before sizing with the Lee die and I lube again after sizing with Lee Liquid Alox and/or Rooster Jacket Liquid Bullet Film.

I use Lee Alox. I tried the pan lubing method, but its too messy and time consuming.

GioaJack
10-09-2011, 10:09
There is no need to use a GC with a GC designed mould, they will shoot just fine. Any leading will be a function of size, alloy, powder, velocity, etc., not the absence of the GC.

Think of a bevel base bullet, same basic concept and leading due to it's design is never a consideration.

I'm too tired for snappy comments today... left Ft. Worth at 6:30 yesterday morning after having got back to the house at 2:20 AM and got back to Colorado at 9:30 last night.

I think I've reached the age where it's not the smartest idea to be with a lady until almost 2 in the morning and then agree to meet her for breakfast 4 and a half hours later. :faint:


Jack

fredj338
10-09-2011, 10:36
I cast & shoot that bullet, very accurate in all my 44mags. I do run them quite a bit faster though, accuracy will likely improve w/ add'l. vel to stabalize the longer bullet. With 17.3gr of 2400, they run 1265fps in my 7 1/2" RBBH. While the recoil is not for the noob, it's manageable in the heavier hunting gun. It will do 3" @ 100yds on my better days form a rest w/ 2x scope.
I have had mixed results w/o gc on a gc design. It will depend on the bullet design, caliber, fir & alloy. Generally, for 50yds & under, accuracy isn't much diff w/ most bullets. leading may be a bit more, again, depends on the previous factors. Only way to know, load some up & shoot them.