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Shawnee Mission Kansas, October 2011 – Imagine a powder that greatly deters copper fouling while you shoot! It’s here, Hodgdon® introduces CFE™223 powder.* Originally developed for U.S. rapid fire military systems, CFE™223 incorporates this proprietary chemistry named “ Copper Fouling Eraser.” Match shooters, Varmint hunters, and AR enthusiasts will benefit considerably with longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time.

Reload data for CFE™223 is available in 27 different cartridges with 147 loads.* Maximum velocities are obtained in the 204 Ruger, 5.56 NATO/223 Remington, 22-250 and 7.62 NATO/308 Winchester at hodgdon.com in the Reloading Data Center.* CFE™223 is a Spherical powder that meters flawlessly; it will be available in one and eight pound containers at dealers everywhere beginning January, 2012.* For more information call 913-362-9455 or mail 6231 Robinson, Shawnee Mission KS 66202.

For your powder choice its Hodgdon, the Brand that’s True.

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m2hmghb
10-12-2011, 19:05
Interesting. Any idea about the burn rate?

VN350X10
10-12-2011, 22:44
Having a bit of a hard time here, a powder that works in a .223 family case is usually the wrong burn rate for the bigger .308 class stuff. This would include the .22-250 & .220 Swift. Not really a 308 case, but real close in volume.
Untill I see chrono readouts, this sounds like "snake oil".

uncle albert

freakshow10mm
10-12-2011, 23:18
I've tested several pounds so far. I'm under an NDA for specifics, but I'm sticking with what I'm currently using.

buyobuyo
10-13-2011, 07:33
I've tested several pounds so far. I'm under an NDA for specifics, but I'm sticking with what I'm currently using.

What calibers have you tried it in so far?

freakshow10mm
10-13-2011, 08:50
223, 7mm-08, 308. Gave a pound to a friend of mine that has a 22-250.

Zombie Steve
10-13-2011, 08:56
Having a bit of a hard time here, a powder that works in a .223 family case is usually the wrong burn rate for the bigger .308 class stuff. This would include the .22-250 & .220 Swift. Not really a 308 case, but real close in volume.
Untill I see chrono readouts, this sounds like "snake oil".

uncle albert

Nah. Several good choices out there that will work well in the .223 and .308.

Varget, IMR / H4320, AA2230, AA2520, IMR / H4895, H335, TAC, RE15, and so on...

DoctaGlockta
10-13-2011, 09:15
Having a bit of a hard time here, a powder that works in a .223 family case is usually the wrong burn rate for the bigger .308 class stuff. This would include the .22-250 & .220 Swift. Not really a 308 case, but real close in volume.
Untill I see chrono readouts, this sounds like "snake oil".

uncle albert

I use TAC for 223 and 308 and it seems to work ok for me. No chrono results to prove it but they both go bang and hit the target once in a while.

steve4102
10-13-2011, 09:23
Sounds like TAC under a new name. Ramshot TAC has copper fouling eliminators as well.

fredj338
10-13-2011, 09:29
Having a bit of a hard time here, a powder that works in a .223 family case is usually the wrong burn rate for the bigger .308 class stuff. This would include the .22-250 & .220 Swift. Not really a 308 case, but real close in volume.
Untill I see chrono readouts, this sounds like "snake oil".

uncle albert

It's not so much about case cap as the relationship of cap to bore size. As noted, there are several powders tht happily run in the 223 & 308.:dunno:

WiskyT
10-13-2011, 13:56
Having a bit of a hard time here, a powder that works in a .223 family case is usually the wrong burn rate for the bigger .308 class stuff. This would include the .22-250 & .220 Swift. Not really a 308 case, but real close in volume.
Untill I see chrono readouts, this sounds like "snake oil".

uncle albert

Be a good little subject and take the advertiser's word for it. Don't make waves. It's new, it has to be better. It will cure warts too.

VN350X10
10-13-2011, 18:12
If I believed everybody's advertising BS, I wouldn't be shooting a .220 Swift, now would I ???
For rifle ammo, compromise is best left to Madison Ave.

Inquiring prarie dogs want to know !

uncle albert

dougader
10-15-2011, 08:10
I was looking at the CFE data on the Hodgdon website, and on paper it looks pretty good for 223 throughout the range of bullet weights from 40 grain Hornady VMax to 77 grain Sierra.

Frankly, though, I like to see some data from other sources before I jump into an 8# keg of something. If Speer, Lyman, Hornady or Nosler had some data that mirrored the Hodgdon data I might be interested. But the CFE concept on it's own doesn't sell me. I want to see good accuracy, a clean burn and respectable velocity... which is what I get from AA 2230 with 55 grain bullets in the 223 Rem/5.56 NATO.