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DonGlock26
10-18-2011, 19:10
NYPD Inspector Broke Pepper Spray Rule in Occupy Wall Street Incident

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYPD-Anthony-Bologna-Pepper-Spray-Occupy-Wall-Street-Protester-132089063.html


Pull the troops out.....


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Line Rider
10-18-2011, 19:14
Some times a man just got to do what a mans got to do. :whistling:

CJStudent
10-18-2011, 19:16
How about this one: Don't act a fool, and you won't get sprayed. Seems simple to me.

Knute
10-18-2011, 20:06
Anybody know what the broken department guidelines are?

mj9mm
10-18-2011, 20:09
equal portions of salt

steveksux
10-18-2011, 20:22
Was it his wife? :whistling: Just sayin, extenuating circumstances and whatnot...

Randy

DaBigBR
10-18-2011, 22:34
The guy's name is Tony Bologna. Seriously.

What the hell was a deputy inspector doing mixing it up with the protestors, anyway?

mikegun
10-19-2011, 01:13
anyone know what brand of pepper spray NYPD uses?, drops them in their tracks...

MarcDW
10-19-2011, 02:29
http://www.mdwguns.com/__files/NYdemo.jpg

On the other side I am not sure (as tempting as it was) why he sprayed them?
Problem is, things like this could spark a fire which could get fast out of control, like the LA Riots.
Is a inspector like a Lt??

CAcop
10-19-2011, 06:21
The guy's name is Tony Bologna. Seriously.

What the hell was a deputy inspector doing mixing it up with the protestors, anyway?

Reminds me of the white shirt in Boston who used an FN pepperball gun to light up a crowd, hitting a woman climbing a wall in the eye, causing her to fall to her death. He was never qualified on the use of the weapon.

CAcop
10-19-2011, 06:24
Is a inspector like a Lt??

The use major clusters as insignia and are between a Inspector and a Captain.

OLY-M4gery
10-19-2011, 07:01
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department

1 step above captain

2 steps below deputy chief

RocPO
10-19-2011, 07:20
Anybody know what the broken department guidelines are?

The Patrol Guide is the NYPD bible. It's a 3" binder of how to do anything... including tie your shoes :rofl:

I'm sure they can find something in there to hang the boss if they REALLY want to. But I doubt it. White shirt immunity FTW!

scottydl
10-19-2011, 08:07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department

1 step above captain

2 steps below deputy chief

Hey thanks, I always wondered where Inspectors fell in the mix. It always seemed like that title should be more of a "working man" position like Detective or Investigator... but obviously not.

JohnnyReb
10-19-2011, 08:11
anyone know what brand of pepper spray NYPD uses?, drops them in their tracks...

Sabre I believe.


Nevermind, its a definite.

http://www.sabrered.com/PDFs/UserListSABRE.pdf

mikegun
10-19-2011, 08:42
Sabre I believe.


Nevermind, its a definite.

http://www.sabrered.com/PDFs/UserListSABRE.pdf

Thanks johnny..:wavey:

DaBigBR
10-19-2011, 08:55
anyone know what brand of pepper spray NYPD uses?, drops them in their tracks...

Sabre I believe.


Nevermind, its a definite.

http://www.sabrered.com/PDFs/UserListSABRE.pdf

Keep in mind, it's being used against a bunch of folks that are probably neither drunk, high, mentally disturbed, or particularly determined. They are probably also smart enough to know that a big flop for the cameras beats smearing it off and asking for more as far as their cause is concerned.

JohnnyReb
10-19-2011, 09:14
Keep in mind, it's being used against a bunch of folks that are probably neither drunk, high, mentally disturbed, or particularly determined. They are probably also smart enough to know that a big flop for the cameras beats smearing it off and asking for more as far as their cause is concerned.

A big +1 here.

MarcDW
10-19-2011, 09:31
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department
1 step above captain
2 steps below deputy chief

Explains a few things!!:whistling:

Cochese
10-19-2011, 12:40
Pepper spray victim

:rofl: :rofl:

CAcop
10-19-2011, 16:23
Hey thanks, I always wondered where Inspectors fell in the mix. It always seemed like that title should be more of a "working man" position like Detective or Investigator... but obviously not.

I always think of Frank D. Lugar.

Jeff82
10-19-2011, 16:50
I always think of Frank D. Lugar.

My thoughts exactly :rofl:

And the officer in question was wrong as a football bat.

tortoise
10-21-2011, 19:51
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Newcop761
10-21-2011, 20:53
Jesus...try reading the comments. The looniest and most vitriolic comments are coming from Portland, OR and Western, Washington.

3000fps
10-21-2011, 23:33
anyone know what brand of pepper spray NYPD uses?, drops them in their tracks...

Sabre Red

4949shooter
10-22-2011, 04:31
Anybody know what the broken department guidelines are?

I would like to know this as well. And I would like to know how Mr. Bologna violated them. We normally get pretty wide latitude when it comes to pepper spray..

seanmac45
10-22-2011, 06:10
They already docked him 10 vacation days which means two things;

It was handled as a Command Discipline, which means there will be no Departmental Trial at OATH.

However, what is really important is that because he has been found guilty of a Department infraction, the Corp Counsel COULD choose not to indemnify him in any lawsuits. I am hoping he was smart enough (or his attorneys were) to secure written assurance of indemnification as part of a deal for him to sign off on the Command Discipline.

I wish him the best of luck. He was out there doing God's work...........................

seanmac45
10-22-2011, 06:53
I would like to know this as well. And I would like to know how Mr. Bologna violated them. We normally get pretty wide latitude when it comes to pepper spray..

I'm out 10 years this January:cool: so the Patrol Guide could have been amended. However it used to state that pepper spray could only be used in the same situations wherein the use of a nightstick is proper. That would cover defense from an unarmed assault and to overcome resistance to an arrest. Basically if you couldn't justify using your stick then you couldn't use the mace.

BamaTrooper
10-22-2011, 07:20
Jesus...try reading the comments. The looniest and most vitriolic comments are coming from Portland, OR and Western, Washington.

The one hoping for a revolution, HA! That would mean work and sacrifice on a scale they may not have thought about.

4949shooter
10-22-2011, 12:01
I'm out 10 years this January:cool: so the Patrol Guide could have been amended. However it used to state that pepper spray could only be used in the same situations wherein the use of a nightstick is proper. That would cover defense from an unarmed assault and to overcome resistance to an arrest. Basically if you couldn't justify using your stick then you couldn't use the mace.

Thanks..

Jeff82
10-22-2011, 13:58
The one hoping for a revolution, HA! That would mean work and sacrifice on a scale they may not have thought about.

Isn't that the truth?!

BailRecoveryAgent
10-22-2011, 16:35
Jesus...try reading the comments. The looniest and most vitriolic comments are coming from Portland, OR and Western, Washington.

The comments are freakin hillarious. Case in point below.


(http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472667339)Ken Johnson (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472667339) (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472667339)Washington State (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Washington-State/107061786008362)
That SUCKS with a capital S...there is never a reason or excuse to subdue women, no matter where and what they're doing.

(http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1472667339)

:rofl::rofl:

GearGuru
10-24-2011, 08:45
I have to say I met the DI when he was just a lowly Captain back in 1999. Tony Bologna is a hard name to forget. He was escorting a group of National Academy folks who were on a weekend trip to NY and he was a hell of a guy. Treated us and the line level cops great. Seemed to be well liked by the NYPD line level guys who were helping us around.
Solid guy dealing with a bunch of folks who probably actually have an IQ over 100 but the morals and ethics so blatantly common in the ME generation today. How about getting off your whiney rears:crying: and putting the same energy into finding and working hard at an actual job? Maybe if they just stay in college another 8 years living off mommy and daddy they will get a clue about life....nah, they won't.

lawman800
11-01-2011, 15:42
Just think, some angels in heaven got their wings because the inspector oc'ed some hippies.

scottydl
11-01-2011, 17:11
Just think, some angels in heaven got their wings because the inspector oc'ed some hippies.

Maybe the movie quote should be "Every time a hippie screams, an angel gets its wings"

rookie1
11-01-2011, 18:08
I'm out 10 years this January:cool: so the Patrol Guide could have been amended. However it used to state that pepper spray could only be used in the same situations wherein the use of a nightstick is proper. That would cover defense from an unarmed assault and to overcome resistance to an arrest. Basically if you couldn't justify using your stick then you couldn't use the mace.


I was also curious to what happened here, thanks. Our policy is decent when it comes to this. For us it is under the "active resistant" part. My LT sprayed a guy because he was asked to leave and not enter a bar, the kid laughed and walked to the door. LT pulled his arm and said your not going in there. Kid lightly pulled his arm away and walked to the bar. Got a shot in the face and went to jail.

lawman800
11-01-2011, 18:29
Ours is the same, you can oc if you can baton. Oc is preferable though because each baton strike can be worth $10k.

igor
11-01-2011, 21:17
he was out there with the troops ,my kind of boss.

Bren
11-02-2011, 04:55
he was out there with the troops ,my kind of boss.

And he was only wrong for using too little force, IMO.

steveksux
11-02-2011, 16:27
The comments are freakin hillarious. Case in point below.



:rofl::rofl:Ken Johnson Washington State
That SUCKS with a capital S...there is never a reason or excuse to subdue women, no matter where and what they're doing.

That is pretty funny!! You can really spot the guys that have never been married, eh? :tongueout::rofl:

Randy

rookie1
11-02-2011, 17:01
Ken Johnson Washington State
That SUCKS with a capital S...there is never a reason or excuse to subdue women, no matter where and what they're doing.

Really, after FTO my first scuffle was with a 16 year old girl. She lost.

lawman800
11-02-2011, 17:17
Really, after FTO my first scuffle was with a 16 year old girl. She lost.

You jack booted thug!