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Police Marksman
10-19-2011, 19:50
I was told by a Law Enforcement friend that an agency in California is trying to get Glock to build them a handgun called the 30 S.

The handgun has a G 30 frame with a G 36 slide. I was told if they agree to make these handguns for the Calif. law enforcement agency, they will go into general production. Would you be interested in purchasing one of these handguns?

JPP
10-19-2011, 20:05
I heard this same story 2 years ago....just saying.

bac1023
10-19-2011, 20:16
...doubt its going to happen anytime soon.

Warp
10-19-2011, 20:46
They need to iron out the wrinkles with the 30SF first.

But to answer your question, no, I would not be interested in purchasing one.

Camu Mahubah
10-19-2011, 20:48
What does the G36 slide have over the G30 slide? I dunno. Never shot a .45 Glock.

Police Marksman
10-19-2011, 20:57
What does the G36 slide have over the G30 slide? I dunno. Never shot a .45 Glock.

The G36 slide is thinner!

ColdBlooded
10-19-2011, 21:12
I would prefer they focus on getting a Gen 4 G30 out.

TxGlock9
10-19-2011, 21:24
I would consider buying one only because I don't like the frame of the g36 as much as the g30 frame. I do however like the size of the g36 slide over the latter. That being said I kinda doubt glock is going to produce a 30S version.

PM720
10-19-2011, 22:15
Maybe they will make it in the short frame with the rough grip? G30SSFRTF? :rofl:

21Carrier
10-19-2011, 22:33
I don't understand the point. The FRAME is the thickest part of a G30. In fact, my G29 (same as G30) frame is even thicker than my G21SF frame. So, you can thin the slide all you want, but the gun will still have the same overall thickness. Weight would be down slightly, but only slightly. I wouldn't buy one, and I also HIGHLY doubt that Glock is in the business of doing what a single department asks of them. Besides, you can always just buy a G30, then a G36 upper. The G36 upper works just fine on the G30 frame.

Camu Mahubah
10-19-2011, 23:31
Why don't they just run the G38 and be happy?

ede
10-20-2011, 03:50
i have one already. if glock were to offer one i'd return my slide to the 36 and sell the 36 and buy the 30s. i don't see any great advantage for a LE application, or even a CC application for the 30/36 hybrid.

Sammael
10-20-2011, 04:22
If I had a nickel for every time someone was told by a friend of a colleague of their uncle's cousin's girlfriend's brother that we were going to get the G30/G36 hybrid mass produced...

...

... I'd have a lot of nickels.

Currently, the only way to own one of these is to put one together yourself, and I have a feeling that's how it's going to stay for the forseeable future. Call it a hunch.

BuckyP
10-20-2011, 05:44
I doubt they will make one either. Ironically, it should be a no brainer though. There had been interest in the project. They already make all the parts. It would just be a matter of another SKU and matching the serial numbers (or how about stop stamping the dang serial number on every stupid part altogether :dunno: ).

streakpi
10-20-2011, 05:52
Nice fantasy buddy, keep telling yourself that Glock is going to make a new production gun for a po-dunk LEO station in communist California. How about this, get your laws changes in Cali so you can actually carry hi-cap mags...then start talking to Glock about your super-new-gun.

David Frost
10-20-2011, 06:44
Nice fantasy buddy, keep telling yourself that Glock is going to make a new production gun for a po-dunk LEO station in communist California. How about this, get your laws changes in Cali so you can actually carry hi-cap mags...then start talking to Glock about your super-new-gun.

My, did we wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Such attitudes are not conducive to polite conversation. BTW, there are some parts of the State that aren't leftist, Communist, Socialist or otherwise, so kindly refrain from lumping us all together. If ignorance is bliss, you must be one happy guy.

Texcowboy
10-20-2011, 08:59
Nice fantasy buddy, keep telling yourself that Glock is going to make a new production gun for a po-dunk LEO station in communist California. How about this, get your laws changes in Cali so you can actually carry hi-cap mags...then start talking to Glock about your super-new-gun.

REALLY????:wow::wow:

giant_pita
10-20-2011, 09:06
As stated earlier, why would anyone want this hybrid? Also how are you going to fit a narrow slide on the wide base? Move in the rails on the lower frame? Then you are not going to be able to fit in the double stack mag. So what do you have? You have a g36 in current form.

cowboy1964
10-20-2011, 09:07
Why would LE care about how thick the 30's slide is, other than maybe for undercover/concealment duty.

cowboy1964
10-20-2011, 09:09
As stated earlier, why would anyone want this hybrid? Also how are you going to fit a narrow slide on the wide base? Move in the rails on the lower frame? Then you are not going to be able to fit in the double stack mag. So what do you have? You have a g36 in current form.

People put 36 slides on 30 frames now. It's very doable.

See this. Huge difference in slide width/weight.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/glock%2036%20slide%20on%2030%20frame/mvician/GLOCKs/G30G36003.jpg

Glock can call it the G66.

BuckyP
10-20-2011, 09:10
As stated earlier, why would anyone want this hybrid? Also how are you going to fit a narrow slide on the wide base? Move in the rails on the lower frame? Then you are not going to be able to fit in the double stack mag. So what do you have? You have a g36 in current form.

People have been making their own version of this (36 slide on a 30 frame) for a couple years now.

RX7Boricua
10-20-2011, 09:39
You know what I don't get? The G36 slide is thin, extremely close to the 9/40/357 slide width. Glock has demonstrated that they can make a reliable slimline .45ACP pistol. The .45ACP Glocks have slightly wider slide and frame dimensions. The .45GAP pistols have the thicker .45ACP slides mated to 9/40/357 sized frames. Why the hell didn't Glock put a G36-width slide on the GAP pistols? Ease/cost of manufacture perhaps? I think you'd get more people on board with the GAP if you had a .45 caliber pistol that is EXACTLY the size of a G19 and would fit in 17/19 holsters.

Jose

USDefender
10-20-2011, 09:47
...doubt its going to happen anytime soon.


And, even if it does, I seriously doubt I'd buy a .45; even if it is 'slim-line.'

BuckyP
10-20-2011, 09:52
I think you'd get more people on board with the GAP if you had a .45 caliber pistol that is EXACTLY the size of a G19 and would fit in 17/19 holsters.


:agree:

streakpi
10-20-2011, 10:43
My, did we wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Such attitudes are not conducive to polite conversation. BTW, there are some parts of the State that aren't leftist, Communist, Socialist or otherwise, so kindly refrain from lumping us all together. If ignorance is bliss, you must be one happy guy.

Yep, pretty happy guy. Guess I see this thread so often that I snapped. Why would a LEO need this type of configuration? Why would you worry about the width of the frame when it is soo small of a difference? The G21 is a great primary weapon and the G30 is an excellent EDC/backup.

I carry a G23 as primary and G36 or G27 as back-up.

streakpi
10-20-2011, 10:44
You know what I don't get? The G36 slide is thin, extremely close to the 9/40/357 slide width. Glock has demonstrated that they can make a reliable slimline .45ACP pistol. The .45ACP Glocks have slightly wider slide and frame dimensions. The .45GAP pistols have the thicker .45ACP slides mated to 9/40/357 sized frames. Why the hell didn't Glock put a G36-width slide on the GAP pistols? Ease/cost of manufacture perhaps? I think you'd get more people on board with the GAP if you had a .45 caliber pistol that is EXACTLY the size of a G19 and would fit in 17/19 holsters.

Jose

+1. Same size= good

Warp
10-20-2011, 11:09
Why don't they just run the G38 and be happy?

Ammunition availability and cost.

TX58
10-20-2011, 15:55
Yep, pretty happy guy. Guess I see this thread so often that I snapped. Why would a LEO need this type of configuration? Why would you worry about the width of the frame when it is soo small of a difference? The G21 is a great primary weapon and the G30 is an excellent EDC/backup.

I carry a G23 as primary and G36 or G27 as back-up.

I have one and the answer is because with the Glock 36 slide on a Glock 30(sf) frame, you get a weapon that thiner and will now fit into any open-ended holster that was made for a Glock 19/23/32. And then, there is the (after loaded magazine) 1/4 pound lighter weapon, and then there is the (now) ten round magazine vs. the Glock 36 six round magazine, and then there is the....... list (for me) goes on and on. It (the 36 on a 30 frame) hybrid is now my carry gun and boy howdy, THAT is perfection. So OP, yes I would buy one, and like several others here, I am not holding my breath, I am taking matters into my own hands.

4949shooter
10-20-2011, 16:06
People put 36 slides on 30 frames now. It's very doable.

See this. Huge difference in slide width/weight.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/glock%2036%20slide%20on%2030%20frame/mvician/GLOCKs/G30G36003.jpg

Glock can call it the G66.

Wow that is a noticeable difference..

There is even the teflon style finish vs. the "old" style finish in that pic. :thumbsup:

michael e
10-20-2011, 16:34
I hope they don't make it, would make me have to go buy another gun.

dkf
10-20-2011, 17:05
Ammunition availability and cost.

Which is basically a non issue for a LEA. They will get contract prices from a local distributer and get the ammo delivered to their door. Many other LEAs switched over to .45 GAP.

Eric2340
10-20-2011, 19:21
Maybe this whole thing (G36 slide on a G30 frame) would have been the better basis for the G30SF from the get go, rather than what we got?

I WOULD have bought one of those and probably kept it, vs trading off the G30 and THEN G30SF I also had. :(

FiremanJim
10-20-2011, 19:36
sure I would

SauerChoi
10-20-2011, 19:50
what I want to know is, why doesn't anyone make an after market G36 slide for those who already have a G30? it would be cool if there was that option.

gary newport
10-20-2011, 23:34
Ammunition availability and cost.

Both are internet myths: ironic, considering that it is precisely the internet that offers both availibility and affordability for .45 GAP ammo! :cool:

gary newport
10-20-2011, 23:44
A G36 was the first Glock I bought...and the first Glock that I sold!

The puny slide gave the G36 an unpleasant recoil character, rather like the .40 S&W Glocks thet I briefly owned and sold later. It is true that the G36 is lighter than a G30--much to the disadvantage of the G36--but I cannot see any advantage to the G36 in concealability, when compared to a G30/SF,. I do see a disadvantage in shootability--and in load-out when compared to the G30/SF. A far better choice would be the G39, if one simply must have a tiny .45 with a six-round magazine!

Warp
10-20-2011, 23:44
Both are internet myths:

Your Walmart carries .45 GAP? And your Academy, and Dicks, and Cabellas, etc?

And you have no problem finding HST, Gold Dot or Ranger?

:shocked:

gary newport
10-21-2011, 01:24
Your Walmart carries .45 GAP? And your Academy, and Dicks, and Cabellas, etc?

And you have no problem finding HST, Gold Dot or Ranger?

:shocked:

I don't buy ammunition at any of those places! (I did, in years past, buy some .45 GAP WWB on the web, but I now reload my practice ammo.)

Yup, I have no problem finding HST or Gold Dot .45 GAP on the web. Haven't had any particular reason to search out Ranger. (Winchester is fussy about non-LE sales, and with Federal HST, who needs Ranger anyway?)

Warp
10-21-2011, 01:29
Where are you buying .45 GAP Gold Dot?

230gr especially


I considered a G38 this spring but from what I could gather people who talk about how it is readily available, well, end up with a lot of stipulations when pushed.

Edit: Checked my usual sources. Didn't look so good. Plenty of .45 ACP everywhere I look though...

gary newport
10-21-2011, 01:52
Where are you buying .45 GAP Gold Dot?

230gr especially


I considered a G38 this spring but from what I could gather people who talk about how it is readily available, well, end up with a lot of stipulations when pushed.

I've bought Speer Gold Dot from Streicher's Police Equipment on the web. None of it was 230 grain, however, since Speer does not offer a .45 GAP load with that bullet weight--even though Federal, Winchester, Remington and some smaller U.S. makers (e.g., Cor-Bon), along with some foreign makers do. Speer offers only 185 and 200-grain HPs in .45 GAP. Federal, Winchester and Remington offer 230-grain .45 GAP with their best bullets (HST, Ranger, Golden Saber), and with some of their older 230-grain HPs as well (Hydra-Shok, Winchester generic).

BamaTrooper
10-21-2011, 06:24
I doubt they will make one either. Ironically, it should be a no brainer though. There had been interest in the project. They already make all the parts. It would just be a matter of another SKU and matching the serial numbers (or how about stop stamping the dang serial number on every stupid part altogether :dunno: ).

...or not worrying about the serial numbers not matching:whistling:

BuckyP
10-21-2011, 08:32
...or not worrying about the serial numbers not matching:whistling:

Actually, I don't. I do know many of here do which is why I mentioned it. Also, I've seen it hurt resale.

Ultimately though, I don't think it would be a smart move for a company to sell guns with mismatched SNs. :dunno:

BamaTrooper
10-21-2011, 08:43
Actually, I don't. I do know many of here do which is why I mentioned it. Also, I've seen it hurt resale.

Ultimately though, I don't think it would be a smart move for a company to sell guns with mismatched SNs. :dunno:

Some countries, not the US, require the numbers be on more than just the frame. Maybe Glock does that because they sell worldwide and it is easier for them?

BuckyP
10-21-2011, 08:50
Some countries, not the US, require the numbers be on more than just the frame. Maybe Glock does that because they sell worldwide and it is easier for them?

I didn't know that, but that would be a good reason to do it. None of my Berettas have the serial number on anything but the frame. :dunno: Wonder how that effects their sales world wide? :dunno:

Warp
10-21-2011, 12:18
I've bought Speer Gold Dot from Streicher's Police Equipment on the web. None of it was 230 grain, however, since Speer does not offer a .45 GAP load with that bullet weight--even though Federal, Winchester, Remington and some smaller U.S. makers (e.g., Cor-Bon), along with some foreign makers do. Speer offers only 185 and 200-grain HPs in .45 GAP. Federal, Winchester and Remington offer 230-grain .45 GAP with their best bullets (HST, Ranger, Golden Saber), and with some of their older 230-grain HPs as well (Hydra-Shok, Winchester generic).

Another reason they don't just get a G38. That is one of the many stipulations I was referring to. ;)

People want the big, heavy 230gr bullets when they get a .45 and a lot of people like Gold Dots. That seriously and literally a .45 GAP deal breaker to me and I'll bet I'm not the only one.


Where do you get 230gr HST or Ranger?

gary newport
10-21-2011, 12:44
Another reason they don't just get a G38. That is one of the many stipulations I was referring to. ;)

People want the big, heavy 230gr bullets when they get a .45 and a lot of people like Gold Dots. That seriously and literally a .45 GAP deal breaker to me and I'll bet I'm not the only one.


Where do you get 230gr HST or Ranger?

I like 230-grain bullets in .45 GAP/ACP as well. However, I prefer Federal HST to Speer Gold Dot, so I'm a happy camper! If .45 GAP HST did not exist, I'd try to find Ranger--not easy, because of Winchester's enforcement of their "LE only" policy for Ranger ammo--or I'd try to get some more of the Remington bonded Golden Saber 230-grain .45 GAP ammo.

As I indicated, HST GAP ammo is available from Streicher's and Winchester Ranger ammo is not--Streicher's has Ranger GAP, but restricts sale to LE, per Winchester's policy.

bklynpete
10-21-2011, 13:18
I'm waiting for the Gen4 G30 to come out and then put my G36 slide on it. If they do come out with the G30S (or whatever they call it), I would just sell my G36 and call it a day. I really do like the idea of a 10 rd capacity .45 with a thinner slide, so I can still use my G36, 19 holsters. I normally carry a Kimber Pro Carry in rotation, but with this weapon, I would carry it exclusively.
If Springfield Armory comes out with a XDm45C, that would also be something that I would be interested in. The Glock would still be a lighter weapon.

TangoFoxtrot
10-21-2011, 13:42
I see how slow Glock was to upgrade their web site. I can't imagine them developing this new pistol anytime soon.

Never Nervous
10-21-2011, 14:25
what I want to know is, why doesn't anyone make an after market G36 slide for those who already have a G30? it would be cool if there was that option.

Why go aftermarket when you can get OEM?:dunno:

NN

sugarcreek
10-21-2011, 14:28
...Glock 36SF?

dhoomonyou
10-21-2011, 15:38
Maybe they will make it in the short frame with the rough grip? G30SSFRTF? :rofl:

now that right there is funny stuff.

Hows about a Gen 5 G30-6-sf-rtf with Gills.

SauerChoi
10-21-2011, 16:27
Why go aftermarket when you can get OEM?:dunno:

NN
you can just call Glock and ask for an OE G36 slide to be sold to you?

I didn't know that was an option.

HiVel
10-21-2011, 16:34
i don't understand the point. The frame is the thickest part of a g30. In fact, my g29 (same as g30) frame is even thicker than my g21sf frame. So, you can thin the slide all you want, but the gun will still have the same overall thickness. Weight would be down slightly, but only slightly. I wouldn't buy one, and i also highly doubt that glock is in the business of doing what a single department asks of them. Besides, you can always just buy a g30, then a g36 upper. The g36 upper works just fine on the g30 frame.

roll tide!

TruthNotRelative
10-21-2011, 19:57
My, did we wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Such attitudes are not conducive to polite conversation. BTW, there are some parts of the State that aren't leftist, Communist, Socialist or otherwise, so kindly refrain from lumping us all together. If ignorance is bliss, you must be one happy guy.
^
What he said

C0untZer0
10-21-2011, 23:54
I heard that they were making a new micro-nine about the size of the DB9 and they're also making a carbine. :whistling:

NYresq
10-22-2011, 01:16
Why go aftermarket when you can get OEM?:dunno:

NN

Last time I tried, Glock wont sell a 36 slide, even to a certified armorer... I tried...

AgentM79
10-22-2011, 09:54
You know what I don't get? The G36 slide is thin, extremely close to the 9/40/357 slide width. Glock has demonstrated that they can make a reliable slimline .45ACP pistol. The .45ACP Glocks have slightly wider slide and frame dimensions. The .45GAP pistols have the thicker .45ACP slides mated to 9/40/357 sized frames. Why the hell didn't Glock put a G36-width slide on the GAP pistols? Ease/cost of manufacture perhaps? I think you'd get more people on board with the GAP if you had a .45 caliber pistol that is EXACTLY the size of a G19 and would fit in 17/19 holsters.

Jose

At the most recent armorer class I attended, they told us that G37 prototypes with G17-diameter slides had slide-breakage issues at a fairly low round count.

TX58
10-26-2011, 09:05
At the most recent armorer class I attended, they told us that G37 prototypes with G17-diameter slides had slide-breakage issues at a fairly low round count.

So how about a Glock 36 sized (in thickness) slide on a Glock 21? I know it will work because I took the upper off my Glock 36 and put it on my Glock 30sf and have fired over 300 rounds through it without one problem. So, due to the .45 acp having lower pressure than the .45 GAP, it should work on the larger frame that has more mass and slower slide movement.

Snaps
10-26-2011, 13:07
No interest in that one. I'm waiting for the same thing half this board is waiting on

BuckyP
10-26-2011, 15:03
No interest in that one. I'm waiting for the same thing half this board is waiting on

GLOCK Carbine??

:tongueout:

Never Nervous
10-26-2011, 15:10
you can just call Glock and ask for an OE G36 slide to be sold to you?

I didn't know that was an option.

Last time I tried, Glock wont sell a 36 slide, even to a certified armorer... I tried...

You are both right. I called Glock after I posted and was told no can do. I must have been thinking of GlockParts.com. They sell the 31 & 32 barrel. My bad. I learned something.

NN

Snaps
10-26-2011, 16:32
GLOCK Carbine??

:tongueout:

No no, the other half

mikegun
10-26-2011, 17:40
I don't understand the point. The FRAME is the thickest part of a G30. In fact, my G29 (same as G30) frame is even thicker than my G21SF frame. So, you can thin the slide all you want, but the gun will still have the same overall thickness. Weight would be down slightly, but only slightly. I wouldn't buy one, and I also HIGHLY doubt that Glock is in the business of doing what a single department asks of them. Besides, you can always just buy a G30, then a G36 upper. The G36 upper works just fine on the G30 frame.

I did this with a 36 and a 30 some yrs ago, the pistol worked fine, no jams and no ftfs,

SauerChoi
10-26-2011, 20:02
You are both right. I called Glock after I posted and was told no can do. I must have been thinking of GlockParts.com. They sell the 31 & 32 barrel. My bad. I learned something.

NN

ah man! I had my hopes up! hehehe it's all good. :crying:

fasteddie565
10-28-2011, 18:11
I think you'd get more people on board with the GAP if you had a .45 caliber pistol that is EXACTLY the size of a G19 and would fit in 17/19 holsters.

Jose

I think you would get more on board if they just shot them. I do not have much of an issue swapping between my GAPs and ACPs. The holsters for the G 30 21 wore for my 37 and 38. I just bought a SERPA from a GT member that fits all 3 GAPs.

The dilemma between the slide sizes on their 45 ACP's is intriguing though. They say they needed a bit bigger slide for the GAPs and went with the beveled edges and intended slide release as a result. My 36 has some issues with non-brass ammo, I have been monkeying with the recoil spring and guide rod, but still no Joy, maybe not enough ass to push the rougher casing home? Who knows?

I hear of some folks that would like a full size version of the G 36. Go figure......

fasteddie565
10-28-2011, 18:13
I did this with a 36 and a 30 some yrs ago, the pistol worked fine, no jams and no ftfs,


And still do it on occasion, although the novelty has worn off by now.

fasteddie565
10-28-2011, 18:16
now that right there is funny stuff.

Hows about a Gen 5 G30-6-sf-rtf with Gills.

I have a matching pair......:shocked::rofl:

Keyspike
10-28-2011, 19:01
Ran another hundred rounds through the 36 today. Flawless. Boy, I love this gun!

glock2740
10-28-2011, 19:24
Nice fantasy buddy, keep telling yourself that Glock is going to make a new production gun for a po-dunk LEO station in communist California. How about this, get your laws changes in Cali so you can actually carry hi-cap mags...then start talking to Glock about your super-new-gun.
Brilliant post. :thumbsup:

TX58
05-30-2012, 10:12
And still do it on occasion, although the novelty has worn off by now.

Mine hasn't (worn off). In fact, I carry it every day. I've put over 900 rounds through mine and it is the second most accurate gun I own (a customized Glock 23 done by Robar is number one, and THAT gun - with the Bar-sto barrel - shoots inch and a half groups at 25 yards over a rest). And, I am looking forward to the alleged 30s, or just the fourth generation 30 and, like someone above mentioned, I'll just take the 36 upper and put it on the gen four lower.

Bello
05-30-2012, 18:41
Why call it the s

Snaps
05-30-2012, 18:54
not something I'm interested in. Now they do a full sized single stack .45 and I'll be all over it

Bello
05-31-2012, 04:59
not something I'm interested in. Now they do a full sized single stack .45 and I'll be all over it

Lol then just buy a 1911

Kyle M.
05-31-2012, 05:07
I'll just stick with my g21 and my 1911. The g30 doesnt feel right in my hand, and if I was looking for something like a g36 id buy a officers 1911. I mean whats the point of a glock that cant use hi-caps.

Warp
05-31-2012, 20:27
Lol then just buy a 1911

For $550? That works, and works reliably, ever time?

That has the same grip angle Glock shooters are used to?

That does not have a manual safety?

Okay. Sure. I'll bite. Which model would that be?

Snaps
05-31-2012, 21:16
Lol then just buy a 1911

I have a half dozen of 'em. One that was as easy to work on as a Glock with the same weight, features and worked the same would be great. They don't make it though, but I"d love to see Glock make that and I highly doubt I'm the only one.

Snaps
05-31-2012, 21:17
For $550? That works, and works reliably, ever time?

That has the same grip angle Glock shooters are used to?

That does not have a manual safety?

Okay. Sure. I'll bite. Which model would that be?

When you find one let me know. I've been looking for something like that for years. I just ordered one for over 2Grand to have the stuff I want. I'm looking for this $550 one. Or with the LE prices would be even better.

WinterWizard
11-02-2012, 19:17
They need to split the thickness difference of the 30 and 36 and create an all-new gun with an 8-round mag capacity. That would be the best CCW gun ever. Period.

Hugo R
11-02-2012, 21:38
Here you go...

http://i47.tinypic.com/2lbkuig.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/20qe7o1.jpg

Sorry for the poor quality of the cell phone pics. The gun is being held for the 10 day waiting period. Not mine, a friends.

HR:cool:

Warp
11-02-2012, 21:46
Pretty cool

BuckyP
11-03-2012, 02:04
They need to split the thickness difference of the 30 and 36 and create an all-new gun with an 8-round mag capacity. That would be the best CCW gun ever. Period.

Sounds like the M&P .45c :whistling:

faawrenchbndr
11-03-2012, 04:01
The G36 slide is thinner!

But the G30 frame is thicker! :dunno:

Think of a super model with a bigger can than rack! What is the
benefit? The G36/G30 has not real carry benefit. A stock G30
shoots better, balances better, and is more accurate.

mo.glocker
11-03-2012, 08:40
But the G30 frame is thicker! :dunno:

Think of a super model with a bigger can than rack! What is the
benefit? The G36/G30 has not real carry benefit. A stock G30
shoots better, balances better, and is more accurate.
this aint no supermodel,your not going to have sex w/it!:rofl:your going to have to carry it,ya if i had to carry a supermodel around all day i would want the less weight model to carry,plus my 36-30 hybrid has way better balance than my 30 did.glock didnt have to make the low press. 45 slide as thick as they did,its only because they made the 20(high press.)then the 21(low press)the thick slide is not needed.the internal dimensions of the 30 and the 36 slides are identical:wavey:

WinterWizard
11-09-2012, 20:41
Sounds like the M&P .45c :whistling:

Except it's an M&P with a terrible trigger and looks stupid. :rofl:

yesitsloaded
11-20-2012, 16:55
Why call it the s

"Slim" :whistling:

Beretta92guy
11-20-2012, 17:31
Glock needs to fix their "new" guns before they make anything "new".....

mo.glocker
11-21-2012, 13:53
"Slim" :whistling:
here is my ccw w/9 round g30 mag.

SDR
01-12-2013, 12:36
OK, just had to wake up this thread. The 30S is out and I thought it was too funny not to revive this one hehehe :D

MNBud
01-12-2013, 16:47
OK, just had to wake up this thread. The 30S is out and I thought it was too funny not to revive this one hehehe :D
Certainly was a lot of doubters.:wow:

ADK_40GLKr
01-12-2013, 17:11
Your Walmart carries .45 GAP? And your Academy, and Dicks, and Cabellas, etc?

And you have no problem finding HST, Gold Dot or Ranger?

:shocked:

Yes, here in my corner of NY, WM keeps 'em under the counter for the State Troopers...and anyone who asks for 'em.

Warp
01-12-2013, 18:52
Yes, here in my corner of NY, WM keeps 'em under the counter for the State Troopers...and anyone who asks for 'em.

Is that because a local department uses them?

BTW: I posted that question almost 3 months ago, and I was asking a different poster whose listed location is California. ;)

spcwes
01-13-2013, 09:31
The G36 slide is thinner!

Actually it is thinner than any of the other glock models to include the slides on the 9mm/40SW models. Hell I have been wanting a compact, full/duty size and 5 in size Glock 36 for years. I thought it would have been the perfect Glock, one the size of a Glock 19, then 17 then 34 would be dreamy

Police Marksman
01-13-2013, 12:19
Yes the Glock 30S is finally out after I posted this thread over a year ago. My information was good.

The same Glock source that gave me the info on the 30S, also has recently given me information about Glocks future.

The source said import restrictions had prevented Glock from producing some of the firearms the public wanted (single stack 9mm, small 380auto, carbine). Glock has now begun manufacture in the US and will be up and running 100 percent in the spring of 2013. This means no import regulations.

The source said for the above reasons see some exciting new models coming from Glock in the near future.

LuckyNemo
01-18-2013, 01:07
You sure were right. ..... definitely a lot of doubters ;)

Now I wanna go check one out and see if I want to buy one. .... I'm sure I will.

Btw...... keep your "rumors" coming
;)

James Dean
01-18-2013, 06:55
Never say never LOL. I'll buy one when its made in Gen4

Police Marksman
01-21-2013, 14:00
From the Glock web site.

http://us.glock.com/products/model/g30s

Glock Announces G30S - YouTube

jw38
01-21-2013, 15:27
How bout just a single stack 9 and forget about the other exotic combinations?

vactor
01-21-2013, 16:18
Never say never LOL. I'll buy one when its made in Gen4

same here. :)

scosgt
01-21-2013, 17:36
Use this gun with the 9 round mag with the +0 Pearce extension on it. You can pocket carry it, 10 rounds of .45 goodness.
And I can confirm it shoots better than either the G30 or G36.

Ermytraining
01-21-2013, 18:12
I'll stick with my gen 3 G30SF. Love it still.

SIGSAREBETTER
01-21-2013, 19:25
I'm intrigued and pending inspect I want one.

Scrappy
01-21-2013, 19:45
Only thing I see with this S model being any better is the lighter weight. The frame is still the same thickness, so putting it in a holster means it would be the same basically as the standard G30.
But with the thinner slide, I would imagine the recoil is greater?
With that said, I will stick with my G30!

SGT45
01-21-2013, 19:57
I like it, but will wait for the GEN4 frame. The GEN4 frames fit me better. I will buy one when it comes in G4

pitdog02
01-21-2013, 20:55
I shot the 36 today, recoil wasnt bad and felt weird not having a fat frame under a .45. What was cool is we took the slide off and shot it on a G30 frame and a G29 frame no problems. The G30 mags fit perfect in my 29. It was like a little frankenstein show, we were laughing. Its not a big deal but sometimes its just fun to have fun.G36 is cool by me very thin alot easier to conceal if needed.

Taphius
01-21-2013, 21:12
Already got a gen 4 30 so thatd be a negative on the 30s

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spcwes
01-24-2013, 15:56
They need to split the thickness difference of the 30 and 36 and create an all-new gun with an 8-round mag capacity. That would be the best CCW gun ever. Period.

A Glock 36 with a frame close to the size of a Glock 19, and same barrel length, then one the size of a Glock 17 and then one the size of a Glock 34 would be amazing. Having mag capacity on the 3 larger models 8-10rds and the same size thickness of a G36 would hands down change the market in my opinion.

USSOCOM
01-24-2013, 23:29
No 30s for me, I am happy with a 30SF and 30 Gen4.

Police305
01-24-2013, 23:37
It does seem like an awesome CCW, but I think I'll stick to my Gen 3 G26 for CCW.

cadillacguns
01-25-2013, 03:52
Yes I do!

HiVel
01-25-2013, 08:31
Yes I do!

I spent a couple of years wearing the Indianhead of the 2ID at Ft. Benning many years ago-2nd Med BN....

RX7Boricua
01-25-2013, 08:50
It does seem like an awesome CCW, but I think I'll stick to my Gen 3 G26 for CCW.

No disrespect, but I don't see why you'd want to carry a 26 when you have a 19 as well. Perhaps it's my body type, but I have NO problem concealing my 19 under just a T-shirt/cargo shorts. It's only a hair more uncomfortable than carrying a 26 or 33, and the extra 5 rounds makes a big difference and makes it worth it IMO. Had the difference been like 2 rounds between the two, I'd probably carry the 26 over the 19.

Jose

SargeMO
01-25-2013, 10:30
I'm good with the concept of having a G30 that will fit my IWB holsters for the G23. I'd also expect it to carry a little more comfortably because of its thinner slide. My only reservation is that I actually like the standard 30 better than the 30SF.

That, and I never buy any new model until its proven in the hands of consumers.

RX7Boricua
01-25-2013, 10:35
I'm good with the concept of having a G30 that will fit my IWB holsters for the G23. I'd also expect it to carry a little more comfortably because of its thinner slide. My only reservation is that I actually like the standard 30 better than the 30SF.

That, and I never buy any new model until its proven in the hands of consumers.

Sarge, once they start producing the 30S with Gen4 frames, you can put the medium backstrap on it and have a standard 30 frame. Also, people have been putting 36 slides on 30 frames for years now, so there's no real issue there. :)

Jose

Police Marksman
01-25-2013, 16:31
There is a good article on the G30S in the new Combat Handguns magazine (May 2013). The G30S and the Gen4 G33 are on the front cover!

The article may answer some of your questions about the G30S.

legalsten
01-26-2013, 05:25
I had a 30 years ago and felt it was just a bit on the thick side. I did carry it a bunch and really liked it. I probably will buy one but I will have to have one in my hand first to be sure.

I had a Gen 2 G 20 and traded it off knowing I was just going to replace it . At the time I traded it I was planning on getting a 20SF . I found both in a shop and held them both . The SF sounded like it was what I wanted but the regular G 20 felt better to me. So I bought another 20 .

I do have a friend who has a 36 and is thinking if selling it . If I don't buy it I may look into a 30 S but I will have to hold it first .

ADK_40GLKr
01-26-2013, 07:29
You know what I don't get? The G36 slide is thin, extremely close to the 9/40/357 slide width. Glock has demonstrated that they can make a reliable slimline .45ACP pistol. The .45ACP Glocks have slightly wider slide and frame dimensions. The .45GAP pistols have the thicker .45ACP slides mated to 9/40/357 sized frames. Why the hell didn't Glock put a G36-width slide on the GAP pistols? Ease/cost of manufacture perhaps? I think you'd get more people on board with the GAP if you had a .45 caliber pistol that is EXACTLY the size of a G19 and would fit in 17/19 holsters.

Jose

Is there a problem just putting a 36 slide on a, say, 39 frame?

Added: My G38 slide fits on my G27 frame.
It is the same WIDTH as a G30 slide, right?
So why wouldn't the G30 slide work on that G27 frame?
And if the 30 slide works on a 27, then the 36 would!

Are the RAILS on the ACP frames WIDER than the 9/40/357/GAP frames or are they the SAME?

In other words: COULD you put a G36 slide on a subcompact (39, etc) frame?

Re-posted on http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1467508&goto=nextoldest

SargeMO
01-26-2013, 09:21
Sarge, once they start producing the 30S with Gen4 frames, you can put the medium backstrap on it and have a standard 30 frame. Also, people have been putting 36 slides on 30 frames for years now, so there's no real issue there. :)

Jose


Thanks Jose, I appreciate the info. I'm just not a Gen4 guy.

scosgt
01-26-2013, 10:36
I am one of the G36 upper on G30sf lower guys. I find it shoots better than either of the original guns, and has been totally trouble free. It is lighter than the G30, which matters.
Here in NY Cuomo who wants to be King is limiting us to 7 rounds in the mag. So the 30s with a 9 round mag with the Pearce +0 on the end gives an additional round over the G36 and is a much much better shooter.

triaxle
01-27-2013, 05:16
Why dont NY people vote the scumbags OUT . They need to go .Is the bad guy going to put 7 in his mag ?????? . They just keep putting the you no what to the NY people

FLA-SandMan
02-09-2013, 09:06
As soon as I renew my GSSF membership in March, I'll be looking for one! I already have a G30SF, and used to carry it, but now generally carry a G23, or Kahr PM9 (if I need something really small). I've been contemplating buying a G36 for about a year so I could put together a hybrid, but have always been concerned about using a modified gun for SD. Now I'll be able to go back to .45 ACP at approximately the same size as my G23. :milestone:

Police Marksman
02-09-2013, 13:51
As soon as I renew my GSSF membership in March, I'll be looking for one! I already have a G30SF, and used to carry it, but now generally carry a G23, or Kahr PM9 (if I need something really small). I've been contemplating buying a G36 for about a year so I could put together a hybrid, but have always been concerned about using a modified gun for SD. Now I'll be able to go back to .45 ACP at approximately the same size as my G23. :milestone:

Thats what the 30S is all about !!:wow:

silversport
02-10-2013, 04:49
just the slide...the frame is the same as you already have...

Bill

intenseneal
02-10-2013, 08:54
Yep I want a G30S, I have smaller hands and am a small guy so the G30S would be a great CC .45 for me.

kokopelli123
02-24-2013, 15:55
man- this may just be the ticket for me! I briefly had a G30. Couldn't comfortably conceal it. Too fat. I had and loved a G36, but wanted more capacity than 6+1 so I went back to a compact 1911 with 7+1. Yes I could have just carried another mag with the 36, but even the mag for the thing was too thick to carry easily/comfortably.
anyway, having the 36 slide on there may be the perfect compromise.

tuica
02-24-2013, 16:02
Yes - but I already have a G36, G39, and G27. That's enough CCW Glocks - for now. Cheers.

tuica
02-24-2013, 16:04
Glock initially tried a thinner slide on their GAP models. Higher GAP cartridge pressure dictated a heavier/wider slide. Cheers.

digemup
02-24-2013, 17:07
As soon as I see one I'll pick it up. Just another tool in the tool box.

kokopelli123
02-25-2013, 17:36
well I don't guess I'll be having to decide on buying one in the near future- stopped by my LGS who is my LEO dealer as well, no G30s', Blue Label or not to be had. He said maybe a giant Glock dealer will have one...

thesilverbullet
02-25-2013, 18:27
i was going for a 30g4, but ending up with a 30S back in Jan when the largest dealer around only had two glocks in the case.. glad i picked her up - there are no glocks in my area... also i realized (after the fact) that my 19, 30s and 36 all fit the same holster (foxx iwb kydex fitted for the 19)...

HKLovingIT
02-25-2013, 22:02
Well I was pretty set on getting a Gen 4 G30 but now I like the G30S idea more and more. I want to hear a lot more feedback from owners before I jump either way. :dunno:

thesilverbullet
02-26-2013, 20:00
it was love at first site for me and a smooth shooter- have not seen one in a store since i bought mine...

best thing about it - it fits my 19's holster...

jhc37013
02-27-2013, 02:07
Well I was pretty set on getting a Gen 4 G30 but now I like the G30S idea more and more. I want to hear a lot more feedback from owners before I jump either way. :dunno:


I have and love my 30SF and recently bought a 30s, glad I did it certainly feels lighter in ccw and the thinner slide feels better as well, I always carry a 30SF and because of it's thickness I've never been much on IWB but I'm certainly going to to explore it on the 30s.

kingdong
02-27-2013, 03:26
I want one!

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Glock 23 Nutter
02-27-2013, 10:57
Waitin' for a G30S on a slimmer, single-stack frame. That would be Su-weeeet.

No, wait... never mind.




Nutter

myglockisa23
02-27-2013, 21:12
Got one and I like it!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/dwaine/IMG_3846.jpg

thesilverbullet
03-02-2013, 21:22
my local dealer finally got a 30 gen 4 in. asking $649

maddawg
03-02-2013, 22:06
i got my 30s from a lgs about 3 weeks ago with another 10rnd mag and 2 20rnd boxes or 230gr golddot short barrel hps for $625 out the door

Wildpony
03-03-2013, 09:18
I tested one last weekend and was very pleased. It happened to take two pigs and one skunk on my outings. Absolutely no "brass to face" issues over the course of firing over 100 rounds of standard and +P ammo from 185gr to 230gr from various field positions.

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo177/UrsusFamiliaris/7dd03a9e-7393-4a29-af8d-e919b56c9894_zps79f95e97.jpg

YUM!!

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo177/UrsusFamiliaris/20130223_124315_zps5800be64.jpg

2011glockarmorer
07-27-2013, 19:09
already have a 30SF ............... and would love to put a 36 upper on the frame. I've seen no mention of building the upper from parts available ............... I don't think Glock will sell the 36 upper alone. Any thoughts?

djegators
07-27-2013, 19:13
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f286/djegators/DSCN9627_zps370da4d9.jpg

David Frost
07-27-2013, 19:50
Is there a problem just putting a 36 slide on a, say, 39 frame?

Added: My G38 slide fits on my G27 frame.
It is the same WIDTH as a G30 slide, right?
So why wouldn't the G30 slide work on that G27 frame?
And if the 30 slide works on a 27, then the 36 would!

Are the RAILS on the ACP frames WIDER than the 9/40/357/GAP frames or are they the SAME?

In other words: COULD you put a G36 slide on a subcompact (39, etc) frame?

Re-posted on http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1467508&goto=nextoldest

.45 ACP is longer than the .45 GAP, 9mm, .40, etc. As such, a G38 frame would not be long enough from front to back in the grip. My hope is that Glock will see the light and make a slim-slide G21 since it is obvious that the G36 and G30S work great. All of that extra metal in the slide is not needed.

bigcix
07-27-2013, 21:49
already have a 30SF ............... and would love to put a 36 upper on the frame. I've seen no mention of building the upper from parts available ............... I don't think Glock will sell the 36 upper alone. Any thoughts?

They do at Glockmeister but 36 isn't in stock or listed.

NailShooter
07-27-2013, 23:18
I've had a 30S for several months. I highly recommend it. If I was gonna carry a 45 this is the one.

Kichigai
07-28-2013, 08:29
i would not buy one

Ranger45
07-28-2013, 08:34
The 30S will be my next Glock, no doubt about it!

jb1911
07-28-2013, 10:47
i would not buy one
Care to elaborate? I'm thinking of trading in my 1991A1 for a G30S and need opinions.

bcj128
07-28-2013, 12:10
.45 ACP is longer than the .45 GAP, 9mm, .40, etc. As such, a G38 frame would not be long enough from front to back in the grip. My hope is that Glock will see the light and make a slim-slide G21 since it is obvious that the G356 and G30S work great. All of that extra metal in the slide is not needed.

But could you do a 37 slide on a 21 frame and get a .45 barrel made (or re chamber a G37 barrel to handle .45ACP.)


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bcj128
07-28-2013, 12:12
I bought one and am very satisfied. I carry a XDs for deep concealment and use the G30S as my "medium" gun.


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Kichigai
07-28-2013, 14:58
Care to elaborate? I'm thinking of trading in my 1991A1 for a G30S and need opinions.

I was just joking as my user name is Mr30s. That being said i own one and i love it. Will not get rid of it. Its a shooter and has Zero issues

LarimerGlock
07-28-2013, 17:29
It is in production now and first introduced at the 2013 Shot Show. I have owned one for six months. Really enjoy and would recommend to anyone.

jb1911
07-28-2013, 19:22
I was just joking as my user name is Mr30s. That being said i own one and i love it. Will not get rid of it. Its a shooter and has Zero issues

Geez o pete I didn't even notice that!

Kichigai
07-28-2013, 20:22
get one you wont regret it. it made me a glock fanboy:supergrin:

David Frost
07-29-2013, 08:40
But could you do a 37 slide on a 21 frame and get a .45 barrel made (or re chamber a G37 barrel to handle .45ACP.)


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Sounds suspiciously like a G21

cadillacguns
07-30-2013, 02:57
That was funny MR 30 S !

GlockFan7
07-30-2013, 16:13
I'd buy one absolutely. I'd buy one tomorrow, if they start making it in a Gen 4.

Slug71
07-30-2013, 16:19
Nope.

GunBugBit
07-30-2013, 16:30
For me, Glocks shine in .40 S&W.

For .45 ACP, give me a quality 1911 any day.

Actually, 1911s shine in .40, too. Just gotta be set up right.

Bigpoppie50
07-30-2013, 20:46
Prolly would but I bought a Gen3 Glock30 on June 20, 2013.

LarimerGlock
07-31-2013, 09:51
I own one and here it is on the Glock U.S. home page:
http://us.glock.com/

Kichigai
08-02-2013, 15:02
I have to say....i was at the range today and the more i shot this thing the more i love it. i cant believe i stayed away from glocks for so long.

GlockUser808
08-07-2013, 03:23
I have one and it's a beauty!!! I EDC with a flush 9 round magazine with one in the chamber!!! I chose the G30s over the G30 gen 4!!!!!!

HiVel
08-07-2013, 05:07
another one for my wish list-looks good.

GlockFan7
08-08-2013, 15:35
For me, Glocks shine in .40 S&W.

For .45 ACP, give me a quality 1911 any day.

Actually, 1911s shine in .40, too. Just gotta be set up right.

I don't want a shiny Glock. I do like a shiny 1911 though.

HiVel
08-08-2013, 17:32
I don't want a shiny Glock. I do like a shiny 1911 though.

to each his own.

ElrodCod
08-09-2013, 11:44
Nah, I won't buy one. I would buy one if Glock made something similar with a G19 length grip though.

Johnny Dollar
08-09-2013, 16:20
Waiting for a 30s Gen 4. Supposedly they are coming.

jb1911
08-11-2013, 06:15
Waiting for a 30s Gen 4. Supposedly they are coming.
Do you have a source for this information? I am very interested.

GlockFan7
08-11-2013, 07:59
to each his own.
Please allow me to clarify. I should have said I don't want MY Glocks to be shiny.

Johnny Dollar
08-11-2013, 10:21
Do you have a source for this information? I am very interested.

My only source is Hicock45's video on the 30s in which he mentions this.

pisgahnf
09-24-2013, 16:00
I got the 30S about a month or so back, having carried the g21 at my department for many years I thought it had no equal until I fired the 30S.

I have heard the recoil on the 30S as being described as snappy and others said it was substantial. I found it to be neither, I would describe it as a soft push straight back into the hand with little or no muzzel rise. Five other guys ranging in size from small to large shot it and had the same opinion.

The G21 is smooth, the 30S is superior to it due to its lower bore axis.
Shooting it is fun and after a few boxes of Lawman target ammo the fun ended with the depletion of ammo.

I don't reccomend many things or post a great deal, but this weapon I highly recommend. The closest thing I have shot to compare it to is the G30 and if you could have both then that would be my advice. Lots of aftermarket things you can do with the G30 barrels ect. Not the case with the 30S.

The G30S is what it is, and it is Glock Perfection :cool:

grizz
09-24-2013, 18:23
I have one on order right now and I'm trying to be patient.

25pd
09-24-2013, 18:57
Me Too !!!!!!!! just a Waiting for Delivery...:crying:

Vdoc
10-02-2013, 13:54
Ya'll talked me in to it! Going to dig out my 30SF and build me a Hybrid!
As much as I like my 36 for concealed carry, my 30SF has a much better trigger on it.

hunter1111
10-02-2013, 16:27
Do you have a source for this information? I am very interested.

The whole point is to be small ie..SF glock 30S
Want a big one ....glock 30
See no need for a med size one and I bet glock dont either

30S13
10-04-2013, 18:56
Got one and love it!

David Frost
10-04-2013, 19:13
I got the 30S about a month or so back, having carried the g21 at my department for many years I thought it had no equal until I fired the 30S.

I have heard the recoil on the 30S as being described as snappy and others said it was substantial. I found it to be neither, I would describe it as a soft push straight back into the hand with little or no muzzel rise. Five other guys ranging in size from small to large shot it and had the same opinion.

The G21 is smooth, the 30S is superior to it due to its lower bore axis.
Shooting it is fun and after a few boxes of Lawman target ammo the fun ended with the depletion of ammo.

I don't reccomend many things or post a great deal, but this weapon I highly recommend. The closest thing I have shot to compare it to is the G30 and if you could have both then that would be my advice. Lots of aftermarket things you can do with the G30 barrels ect. Not the case with the 30S.

The G30S is what it is, and it is Glock Perfection :cool:

I agree completely, pisgahnf. Mine shoots quite accurately with no real perceived increase in recoil. Further, if is easier to conceal with the slimmer slide. I prefer to carry IWB, especially in the sumer. I can carry the 30s as easily as a G26 or G19. I guess the needs of "some podunk LE agency in Communist California" were heard.

Vdoc
10-05-2013, 14:36
OK, I went and built my 36/30SF combo (30S) and I just love it. Can't wait to get my Trijicon sights on it! Shot and feed well. Sooner or later I need to try my 36 frame with the 30 slide and see if what I think about the extra weight of the slide! Once I get the some triger work on the 36 who knows, choice, choices choices!