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racer88
10-29-2011, 17:24
Wasn't sure in which forum to post this.

Discuss:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10...-defence-laws/ (http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/29/act-of-heroism-exposes-canadas-arcane-and-contradictory-self-defence-laws/)

BailRecoveryAgent
10-29-2011, 18:12
Stories like these make me even prouder to be an American.

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racer88
10-29-2011, 18:17
Stories like these make me even prouder to be an American.

Well... yeah.... unless you live in Massachusetts, California, Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois, or New York. :whistling:

kensteele
10-29-2011, 18:43
Stories like these make me even prouder to be an American.

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Don't be so sure about that.

"...but while he was trying to flee." Sounds like that was the basis for the criminal charges, right or wrong.

Nevertheless, that's the exact phrase used by millions of Americans and dozens of proud gun owners right here in this forum. If the criminals are trying to leave, let them...and if you try to stop them or interfere with the "natural progression" then YOU have escalated....[nonsense follows].

Don't forget these are your prosecutors and jurors as well.

Criminals all over your property, stealing your stuff and attacking your family....well, I'd say that is going to turn out ugly for everyone involved, no doubt.

racer88
10-29-2011, 18:58
Don't be so sure about that.

"...but while he was trying to flee." Sounds like that was the basis for the criminal charges, right or wrong.

Nevertheless, that's the exact phrase used by millions of Americans and dozens of proud gun owners right here in this forum. If the criminals are trying to leave, let them...and if you try to stop them or interfere with the "natural progression" then YOU have escalated....[nonsense follows].

Don't forget these are your prosecutors and jurors as well.

Criminals all over your property, stealing your stuff and attacking your family....well, I'd say that is going to turn out ugly for everyone involved, no doubt.

Trying to "flee?" It appeared (to the GG) that the BG was going to drive FORWARD through the garage door (where his wife was standing) after crashing into the GG's car in reverse.

A6Gator
10-29-2011, 21:16
Unbelievable. I guess I was wondering why he used the blunt end of the hatchet...Ooops, my bad...:supergrin:

BailRecoveryAgent
10-30-2011, 07:14
Don't be so sure about that.

"...but while he was trying to flee." Sounds like that was the basis for the criminal charges, right or wrong.

Nevertheless, that's the exact phrase used by millions of Americans and dozens of proud gun owners right here in this forum. If the criminals are trying to leave, let them...and if you try to stop them or interfere with the "natural progression" then YOU have escalated....[nonsense follows].

Don't forget these are your prosecutors and jurors as well.

Criminals all over your property, stealing your stuff and attacking your family....well, I'd say that is going to turn out ugly for everyone involved, no doubt.

He believed the d-bag was going to ram the garage door with his wife on the other side. I woulda tomahawk'd his noggin too.

SouthernBoyVA
10-30-2011, 12:20
The really sad thing about this is the reciprocal nature of laws and legislatures in their attempts to rectify problems which they created in the first place. If people were allowed to use whatever force is necessary to protect and retrieve their property, then there would be fewer criminals doing what they do.

But with laws against this, the criminals are enabled and emboldened by the real crooks, the ones who sit in legislatures, to do as they see fit at the expense and suffering of the victims of their endeavors. One can only hope that those criminal endeavors would be directed towards those who write these asinine laws and sit in judgement of good folks. Perhaps if more of them suffered at the hands of those who have benefited from their sinister rulings, we'd all be a little safer.

kensteele
10-30-2011, 17:26
Trying to "flee?" It appeared (to the GG) that the BG was going to drive FORWARD through the garage door (where his wife was standing) after crashing into the GG's car in reverse.

He believed the d-bag was going to ram the garage door with his wife on the other side. I woulda tomahawk'd his noggin too.

Not my words, I'll post the quote (again) so everyone can read it in context. I wasn't there but from reading the story, it appears the crooks were trying to leave when the homeowner prevented them. I don't know...you be the judge. Maybe the crooks left and the homeowner stayed inside and peeked thru the window and when he saw the crooks get in his car and put the car in drive and try to drive thru his house.....not.

"...Mr. Singleton left his wife to call 911 and headed out into the driveway, where a burglar was trying to flee in the station wagon.

“I told him to sit there, the police are coming, we’ll sort it out,” he recalled in his first public interview. “That’s when he put his car in reverse and smashed into our car.

“Then he put the car into drive and it was then I thought..."

kensteele
10-30-2011, 17:29
"Crown prosecutors alleged he didn’t meet the definition of citizen’s arrest because he hadn’t stopped the thief while he was stealing his belongings, but while he was trying to flee."

Maybe the prosecutors are wrong and the homeowner didn't try to stop a fleeing criminal. Send your emails to prosecutor and tell them they are wrong. I personally believe the criminal should be stopped (maybe not deadly force) whether he is fleeing or not, unfortunately a lot of people are going to disagree with me.

smokin762
10-30-2011, 17:47
Maybe the Citizens of Canada should have never let their country turn into a Socialist Society. There are repercussions from decisions that we make. This looks like proof to me. :whistling:

Oramac
10-31-2011, 10:55
I woulda tomahawk'd his noggin too.

Quoted for awesomeness.

Sgt_Gold
11-01-2011, 17:27
I don't know which quote pisses me off more, this one:

“If someone breaks into your home, and they’re sitting on top of another person stabbing them, no one is going to debate that one,” said Edmonton Police Acting Superintendent Greg Preston. But “is it reasonable to take a hatchet and whack them when they come through the door? It’s not so easy.”

Or this one:

"These days, Mr. Singleton has a dog and a security system, and leaves the lights on when the family isn’t home. For him, he is perfectly clear about what he can do if criminals ever decide to target his home again.

“We don’t have any second thoughts now. We would just drive away or let them steal what they need to steal,” he said."