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EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 19:28
I can not get it to cast a good one. I know I am a newb but I close it as tight as I can and I have these little fins on the top of the Boolit. Also the Grease lines done match up.. I am trying my hardest but I just gave up.. About 200 cast and not one that I am happy with. Someone please help. And if its me be honest I just want to cast a winner..


http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast001.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast002.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast003.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast004.jpg

EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 19:30
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast005.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast007.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast010.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast011.jpg

Travclem
11-08-2011, 19:31
maybe a pic of the boolits would help.

ron59
11-08-2011, 19:32
maybe a pic of the boolits would help.

I thought the same thing.... all those pictures of the mold but not one of a cast bullet.

EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 19:35
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast2001.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast2002.jpg

EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 19:36
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast2003.jpg

Colorado4Wheel
11-08-2011, 19:44
-If you hold the mold up to the light can you see the light between the two mold halfs?
-Do you have a temp gauge? I assume you are using a Lee pot. If you are IMHO you need a gauge.
-Can you see a visual misalignment of the molds?
-Do you have any lead build up on the mold faces?

EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 19:47
2nd picture in OP is mold being held agianst a light. Yes LEE pot not temp gauge.

Colorado4Wheel
11-08-2011, 19:52
Pictures suck for troubleshooting sometimes. Can you see light and answer the other questions?

GioaJack
11-08-2011, 19:54
My septic tank is cleaner than that thing. Boil it until you get all that crap off of there... it looks like there's crud on the alignment pins, (lead splatter), and more crud covering some of your vent lines.

Get it clean and then start from there.


Jack

Zombie Steve
11-08-2011, 19:55
-If you hold the mold up to the light can you see the light between the two mold halfs?
-Do you have a temp gauge? I assume you are using a Lee pot. If you are IMHO you need a gauge.
-Can you see a visual misalignment of the molds?
-Do you have any lead build up on the mold faces?

That'd be my guess.

Get it hot, get the leading off with some steel wool (not sure if this is copasetic with alooominium molds). :dunno:

EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 19:59
How do I boil it... Well clean it that is. You can see light threw it, but like jack said there may be lead stuck on it. I just got it today brand new and used bees wax to lube it like LEE says to. Now it looks like Crap...

GioaJack
11-08-2011, 20:09
Can you boil an egg? Do the same thing... put water in a pan, put the mould in the pan, (you can put a piece of sponge under it to keep from scratching the pan), bring the water to a boil and let it sit in there for a couple of minutes.

Let the water cool until you can lift the mould out, (DON'T use cold water to cool it off), rub the whole mould clean with a rag.


Jack

EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 20:15
Can you boil an egg? Do the same thing... put water in a pan, put the mould in the pan, (you can put a piece of sponge under it to keep from scratching the pan), bring the water to a boil and let it sit in there for a couple of minutes.

Let the water cool until you can lift the mould out, (DON'T use cold water to cool it off), rub the whole mould clean with a rag.


Jack


I understood before, but sometimes its hard to tell if your being serious or just Fing around.. What happens if you put the mold in cold water when hot..?

GioaJack
11-08-2011, 20:17
I understood before, but sometimes its hard to tell if your being serious or just Fing around.. What happens if you put the mold in cold water when hot..?


It'll end up like Wisky... warped.


Jack

Colorado4Wheel
11-08-2011, 20:25
Don't use Steel Wool on the mold.

I could never get a Lee mold to work UNTIL I used Bull Plate Lube. That stuff just works on aluminum mold. Your using too much Bee's Wax more then likely. It's running everywhere.

Go to CastBoolits.com to learn more.

Boil the mold. Pick the lead off it. Until you get the mold faces clean the mold will not work because it won't close properly. You where also running the lead way too hot. That is how it got into the mold faces. It's a health hazard to not have a temp gauge using a Lee Pot. They bounce from 700f on one day at setting 5 and the next day setting 5 will be 850F or more. Don't do it. Get a gauge. Running lead that hot is not a good idea for the mold or your health.

fredj338
11-08-2011, 20:43
After you do all that, it could be the mold. Lee are really hit & miss. If the lube/drive bnads don;t align, it's likely a poorly cut mold, happens quite a bit & there i sno fix. Then again, what can you expect for $30.

EL_NinO619
11-08-2011, 21:04
Boiled Cleaned and STILL showing light threw... I am calling LEE and getting a Temp Gauge and a Lyman Mold... It was fun until I noticed this. Now its just a headache and I'm Pissed.................

Steve as for the wax. I heated up the mold and touch the stick to it, And it went everywhere fast...

Very discouraged and may just stick to Berry's. But then again I just BOUGHT 200# of Lead...... UGH

atakawow
11-08-2011, 21:28
Boiled Cleaned and STILL showing light threw... I am calling LEE and getting a Temp Gauge and a Lyman Mold... It was fun until I noticed this. Now its just a headache and I'm Pissed.................

Steve as for the wax. I heated up the mold and touch the stick to it, And it went everywhere fast...

Very discouraged and may just stick to Berry's. But then again I just BOUGHT 200# of Lead...... UGH

You're giving up after just one try? :dunno:

I've done messed up worse. It will get better.

Little light showing through isn't the end of the world. Almost all my moulds are like that and they give me no trouble.

How did the wax go "everywhere"? Just lightly touch the alignment pins and let gravity do the work.

If you think buying a Lyman mould would solve all your problems and drop pristine bullets immediately, this isn't the hobby for you...

freakshow10mm
11-08-2011, 23:09
I understood before, but sometimes its hard to tell if your being serious or just Fing around.
This made by day. Thank you. :rofl:

EL_NinO619
11-09-2011, 00:05
Okay ordered


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fredj338
11-09-2011, 00:08
Boiled Cleaned and STILL showing light threw... I am calling LEE and getting a Temp Gauge and a Lyman Mold... It was fun until I noticed this. Now its just a headache and I'm Pissed.................

Steve as for the wax. I heated up the mold and touch the stick to it, And it went everywhere fast...

Very discouraged and may just stick to Berry's. But then again I just BOUGHT 200# of Lead...... UGH

Ah don't quit now! Casting has a learning curve, known alloy & a good mold help. I think iron molds are easier to get right for noobs & they are harder to mess up. It's easy to ruin an alum mold & even easier w/ the soft Lee. There is a reason their molds are only $30.:dunno:

EL_NinO619
11-09-2011, 00:21
Ah don't quit now! Casting has a learning curve, known alloy & a good mold help. I think iron molds are easier to get right for noobs & they are harder to mess up. It's easy to ruin an alum mold & even easier w/ the soft Lee. There is a reason their molds are only $30.:dunno:


Hopefully the Lyman is worth it. I cannot believe how soft the LEE's are. The Mold guide is marring the mold..:dunno:

I'm Not giving up, But I have a new respect for casting. Oh ya I also need to get a Sizer. My Boolits are ugly as hell compared to yours Fred, using that tumble alox crap..

freakshow10mm
11-09-2011, 07:15
Yep, Lee molds are cheap for a reason. Lyman molds are excellent and will last a lifetime.

fredj338
11-09-2011, 09:05
Hopefully the Lyman is worth it. I cannot believe how soft the LEE's are. The Mold guide is marring the mold..:dunno:

I'm Not giving up, But I have a new respect for casting. Oh ya I also need to get a Sizer. My Boolits are ugly as hell compared to yours Fred, using that tumble alox crap..

You can pan lube & size w/ a Lee sizer, tedious. You can often find a Lyman or RCBS sizer cheap on E-bay, but if you get serious about casting, the Magma/Star is the only way to go. Yeah, bever have been a fan of Alox lubed bullets, too sticky. There are ways to make them less so, but more hassle, the Star just does it right. Again, you are welocme to come by & try mine before popping for $200.

Colorado4Wheel
11-09-2011, 09:43
My best casting mold is a Lee 2 Cavity mold. Better then any of my lyman. It's a joy to use. There is a steep learning curve (and a little bit of luck) to Lee Molds. Lyman is WAY more forgiving. IIRC Lee 2 cavity are only $19 with handles. Bullplate is a godsend with Lee Molds. Nothing else I did seem to work before I got that stuff.

GioaJack
11-09-2011, 10:27
Why did you order a 4 cavity mould with 2 cavity handles? Are you planning on cutting the mould in half?


Jack

TN.Frank
11-09-2011, 10:56
Lee molds will work fine if you're careful with em'. You can clean up the face of the mold blocks with a bronze 12ga brush if you're careful with it. Make sure the two faces where the blocks come together are clean or you'll not cast a good bullet no matter how hard you try.
My latest Lee mold is a .401" 175gr SWC for my 40cal. Bullets are coming out ok after I cleaned the cavities with brake cleaner(won't leave a residue like carb cleaner) and then smoked them with a bic lighter and cleaned out the soot with a Q-Tip.
The blocks need to be tipped up in order to line up right, if I keep them horizontal they won't line up properly at all. $20 bucks I'm not going to complain. You get what you pay for and they'll do a good enough job to make bullets to plink and mess around with.
If you want something that's going to last forever then get RCBS or Lyman and a set of handles.

EL_NinO619
11-09-2011, 13:08
Why did you order a 4 cavity mould with 2 cavity handles? Are you planning on cutting the mould in half?


Jack

Ha With them old eyes, nothing gets by you old man.. You think you where a detective.. Its a Grafs error, called them this morning and they said a 4 cav handle was on its way..

Fred Maybe Friday, Chris is of and we where planing on going shooting. Don't you have a range that's close by..

fredj338
11-09-2011, 13:12
Ha With them old eyes, nothing gets by you old man.. You think you where a detective.. Its a Grafs error, called them this morning and they said a 4 cav handle was on its way..

Fred Maybe Friday, Chris is of and we where planing on going shooting. Don't you have a range that's close by..

Only an indoor range, $16+/hr.:puking: I have to work until 5pm or so.:yawn:

WiskyT
11-09-2011, 14:03
Iron molds are more forgiving and require less voodoo to make work.

Lee 2 cavs are good molds for people who already know how to cast. New casters buy one, get bad results, and everyone says they "got a bad one". I don't see anything wrong with that mold looking at a picture of it. It looks like the engagement surfaces are plenty clean enough. Mine look like crap and work great.

The Lee 2 cav are nototrious for needing to be sweet talked into closing properly. They need to be lubed on the pins and the verticle mating surfaces. You have to close them gently. When you have been casting for a 20 minutes or so, they stop lining up properly and need a touch of lube again. My guess is Fred could get that mold to work.

I have my first mold, a Lee 2 cav, that I actually bent out of shape when the alignment pins fell out and I re-peened them while it was hot. Even with it visably bent, it still cast good bullets. I keep it around as a loaner for new casters to abuse. I casted about 500 bad bullets before I learned how to use it. The bad ones shot well. Then I got about 1000 good ones out of it before I screwed it up. It will still make bullets that shoot well. I got my $17.95 out of the thing.

The Lyman 2 cav I replaced it with is idiot proof. I could cast blindfolded with it. I tried a Lee 6 cav and it is a whole 'nother animal compared to the Lee 2C. My Lyman is parked and all I use is my Lee6c's.

As ugly as those bullets are, I bet they shoot well with a light charge of Bullseye or a medium charge of Unique

EL_NinO619
11-09-2011, 15:47
Thank Wisky... Ya I may need to take another class with fred.. A lot have time has passed since the last one with no hands on until now..

StaTiK
11-09-2011, 15:47
Again, you are welocme to come by & try mine before popping for $200.

If you're referring to a Magma Star Lube-sizer they're $275 now, at least at Magmaengineering.com (http://www.magmaengineering.com/component/banners/click/14/)

-StaTiK-

fredj338
11-09-2011, 18:06
If you're referring to a Magma Star Lube-sizer they're $275 now, at least at Magmaengineering.com (http://www.magmaengineering.com/component/banners/click/14/)

-StaTiK-

I haven't looked in a while. Last time I looked they were around $225. Still, @ $275, worthwhile for something that can size & lube so quickly, easily twice as fast as a Lyman/RCBS.

freakshow10mm
11-09-2011, 22:42
Bullplate is a godsend with Lee Molds. Nothing else I did seem to work before I got that stuff.
PM sent.

EL_NinO619
11-09-2011, 22:45
I gave casting a second chance with the LEE. I watched numerous videos read my Lyman Book and used a little locktite anti-size... It worked. The bullets are by no means great. But I think the will shoot. But putting them next to Freds .45 HP I'm embarrassed.. I have another question, what is the down side to frosty Boolits, Lyman book talks about them but not why to not use them. Here's some pics

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast3010.jpg

http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/Justin_Moreau/cast3008.jpg

GioaJack
11-09-2011, 23:06
Frosted bullets is an indication that either your mould or your alloy is too hot. The downside is that bullets cast too hot, (frosted) have a tendency to shrink a bit while cooling.

Generally this doesn't present a problem and the bullets can be shot with good results... they're just not as pretty.

THIS IS MY FIRST POST WITH MY NEW iPAD2. WHAT FUN!


Jack

EL_NinO619
11-09-2011, 23:13
Frosted bullets is an indication that either your mould or your alloy is too hot. The downside is that bullets cast too hot, (frosted) have a tendency to shrink a bit while cooling.

Generally this doesn't present a problem and the bullets can be shot with good results... they're just not as pretty.

THIS IS MY FIRST POST WITH MY NEW iPAD2. WHAT FUN!




Jack


Who says you cant teach a OLD DOG new tricks.. I knew you always bought new tricks, but to learn them... EPIC:supergrin:

Oh ya how do they look, shotable or what?

GioaJack
11-09-2011, 23:35
If you don't want to shoot them send 'em to me, I will. They're fine.


Jack

fredj338
11-10-2011, 01:25
You are fretting too much Justin, they'll probably shoot fine. Are you sizing or shooting as cast? As lon as they are 0.451"-0.452", they should be fine. As the ladies will tell you, size does matter, so larger dia is often better.

WiskyT
11-10-2011, 04:00
you'll have a hard time casting non-frosted bullets with a Lee mold. Cool things down just a bit and you'll end up with wrinkles and rounded bases. I cast all of my bullets frosty, that way I know tey are big enough (filled out).

TN.Frank
11-10-2011, 07:04
you'll have a hard time casting non-frosted bullets with a Lee mold. Cool things down just a bit and you'll end up with wrinkles and rounded bases. I cast all of my bullets frosty, that way I know tey are big enough (filled out).

LOL, I've also noticed that they tend to look like they've filled out the mold better when there's a bit of frost on em'. If they start getting too frosty I'll turn my Lee lead pot down from 7 to 6.5 and the mix will cool a bit and things will go back to normal.
I have noticed that with the latest Lee mold I've gotten(.401", 175gr SWC) the the blocks have a hard time lining up a lot of the time. You've got to be careful when you put em' back together after you dump the two bullets you've just cast. I'd say that out of 80 or so bullets I cast yesterday I only got 28 that were up to my standards. I do have plans on picking up an RCBS or Lyman mold in the near future since I plan on doing a lot of shooting and will need to cast a lot.
The nice thing about a Lee mold is that once you learn to use one you can cast with pretty much any mold. Also, they're cheap enough to let you try different bullet weights before you invest in a "good" mold, that way you'll know if you want to spend the big bucks on a Lyman or RCBS in that weight bullet.

rpgman
11-10-2011, 07:28
Frosted bullets is an indication that either your mould or your alloy is too hot. The downside is that bullets cast too hot, (frosted) have a tendency to shrink a bit while cooling.

Generally this doesn't present a problem and the bullets can be shot with good results... they're just not as pretty.

THIS IS MY FIRST POST WITH MY NEW iPAD2. WHAT FUN!


Jack

Man, u got an IPAD2, 2 'count em' 2 Dillon 150's, etc.

I must be doing something wrong.

fredj338
11-10-2011, 09:15
Man, u got an IPAD2, 2 'count em' 2 Dillon 150's, etc.

I must be doing something wrong.
Nah, Jack's just not married!:cheerleader:

rpgman
11-10-2011, 09:23
Nah, Jack's just not married!:cheerleader:

yea, I kinda thought THAT was the reason.

EL_NinO619
11-10-2011, 12:27
You are fretting too much Justin, they'll probably shoot fine. Are you sizing or shooting as cast? As lon as they are 0.451"-0.452", they should be fine. As the ladies will tell you, size does matter, so larger dia is often better.


Ya I might be. But I am picky when it comes to my guns and ammo. The ones in the pics are not sized, but I do have 20 or so that are sized. I am going to load them right now and see how they shot today. I'm trying to decide if I want to lead the XD or the Kimber...:supergrin:

fredj338
11-10-2011, 12:30
Ya I might be. But I am picky when it comes to my guns and ammo. The ones in the pics are not sized, but I do have 20 or so that are sized. I am going to load them right now and see how they shot today. I'm trying to decide if I want to lead the XD or the Kimber...:supergrin:

I used to over think the cast bullet thing & throw a bunch back. Pretty soon you realize that unless the bullet base is bad, it's going to shoot, especially if you don't need extreme accuracy. Even poorly cast bullets will make IDPA accuracy std. I still cull after casting but only those that have bad bases or very poorly filled out. One advantage of sizing is they at least will be uniform in dia which = uniform neck tension & that is never bad.
I have that same design in a 6cav Lee. With 6cav, the bullets are all slightly diff, after all, it is a Lee. They still shoot well enough for gun games. If I want to win someones pink slip, then I'm shooting bullets cast from one of my iron molds.:supergrin: Except fo rthe weight, I think you'll like the Lyman 4cav. I have one in 44, makes great bullets, but gets kinda heavy after an hour or so of casting. Why I like my Magma machine, only a 2cav, but it is just pulling a lever & you can do that as long as you can stand it.

EL_NinO619
11-10-2011, 12:32
I'm going to load them with unique or 231, I need to only bell the case a little more, right. And I am using Lyman Lead data.

WiskyT
11-10-2011, 17:58
LOL, I've also noticed that they tend to look like they've filled out the mold better when there's a bit of frost on em'. If they start getting too frosty I'll turn my Lee lead pot down from 7 to 6.5 and the mix will cool a bit and things will go back to normal.
I have noticed that with the latest Lee mold I've gotten(.401", 175gr SWC) the the blocks have a hard time lining up a lot of the time. You've got to be careful when you put em' back together after you dump the two bullets you've just cast. I'd say that out of 80 or so bullets I cast yesterday I only got 28 that were up to my standards. I do have plans on picking up an RCBS or Lyman mold in the near future since I plan on doing a lot of shooting and will need to cast a lot.
The nice thing about a Lee mold is that once you learn to use one you can cast with pretty much any mold. Also, they're cheap enough to let you try different bullet weights before you invest in a "good" mold, that way you'll know if you want to spend the big bucks on a Lyman or RCBS in that weight bullet.

I'd give a hard look at the Lee six cavity. Not that the iron ones aren't good, but the Lee6's really make a pile of bullets in a hurry and they are a bargin.

I have the Lee 6cav 40 cal 175TC non-TL. They were dropping at 180 grains with range scrap and shot great. I had a buddy machine it down to drop them at 165 to mimic the 165's I have for carry use. They shoot great and the TC is more feed friendly. Granted, the Lee "SWC" for that mold is really just a TL TC, but I found that the TL molds that I have need sizing anyway. Tumble lubing works fine with a "regular" grease groove.

norton
11-10-2011, 19:47
I can only speak for pistol bullets, but they don't have to be perfect or even pretty to shoot well.
I have several Lee Molds. Some work better then others. I drop consistent .358 SWC 105 grain bullets and load them for my .38's without sizing. My .452 255 grain .45 Colt bullets always need sizing. My .58 Minie ball single cavity has given me fits, but it has produced bullets that load and fire accurately in my 1861 Springfield rifle. its the only rifle caliber bullet I cast. I made up about 150 .600 round balls for my flintlock trade gun smooth bore, and they shot fine. Just not real pretty. But then the standard for accuracy for smooth bores is not a high bar.

EL_NinO619
11-10-2011, 20:20
I cleaned the lee mold last night, Its looks new. I used JB & Kroil. Im sure they will shot fine, But I am with Col4wheel on this one. That alox crap is nasty and messy. Where I shot 90% of the time thing could get ugly. I loaded up 5 of them today in a rush but could not check OAL in my XD. Went to shot them and they did not chamber, damn thing got stuck, at 1.230 and well probably have to go to 1.2

Colorado4Wheel
11-10-2011, 20:43
So if they are clean and closing properly.....

Get some 2 cycle oil.
Clean mold with soap and water, finish with some alcohol. Lower water content the better.
Smoke mold with a Bic Lighter. You won't see any difference. Do it anyway.
Preheat mold on top of pot while lead is heating up.
Cast a couple times with the pot at 700-725. No higher.
Then cut the sprue, Take a q-tip and wipe a very small amount of the oil on the top of the mold. Use a barely damp qtip that you wiped on the cap, don't dip it in the oil. Take the clean side and wipe the oil off. DO NOT GET IT IN THE CAVITIES.
Start casting again. Every once in a while reapply. Try to keep a small amount under the plate pivot. VERY small amount.

That mold should cast great if the plates align easily. You just have to treat it right.

fredj338
11-11-2011, 09:15
I cleaned the lee mold last night, Its looks new. I used JB & Kroil. Im sure they will shot fine, But I am with Col4wheel on this one. That alox crap is nasty and messy. Where I shot 90% of the time thing could get ugly. I loaded up 5 of them today in a rush but could not check OAL in my XD. Went to shot them and they did not chamber, damn thing got stuck, at 1.230 and well probably have to go to 1.2

Yes, the shape of that bullet requires deeper seating for the XD's min chamber. My XD runs fine @ 1.230", you may need to go to 1.20" but check your crimp first. If you are shooting them as cast, they may be too large.

TN.Frank
11-11-2011, 09:19
The Lee mold I picked up is casting them .405" on one side then turn 90 deg. and you'll get .401". I've got a Lee sizing die coming in today on the Big Brown Truck. that way I can run them thru and get .401" all the way around.
Really, this is the first Lee mold I've bought that's given me problems like this. Like I said, maybe their quality control is slipping a bit because of the economy or something.

SPIN2010
11-11-2011, 09:40
I find that Sprayon works pretty good on cavity problems ... just do not apply it to a hot mold (> 575F) or breathe it.

I have treated all my die/mold stuff with it and it works great, even works on non stick cookware that you use when cooking for friends. LOL

fredj338
11-11-2011, 13:26
The Lee mold I picked up is casting them .405" on one side then turn 90 deg. and you'll get .401". I've got a Lee sizing die coming in today on the Big Brown Truck. that way I can run them thru and get .401" all the way around.
Really, this is the first Lee mold I've bought that's given me problems like this. Like I said, maybe their quality control is slipping a bit because of the economy or something.

Lee molds have always been like this, 2cav or 6cav, it's just luck of the draw. I have sent several back to Lee. Again, for the $$, what do you expect.:dunno:
Mold release of any kind should really be avoided. It changes the cast size of the bullet & just isn't needed in a good mold, alum or iron, lead doesn't stick to either. The better the mold quality, the easier they are to use. So is the cost worth it, for a mold I would use often, you bet.

TN.Frank
11-11-2011, 13:46
I'll normally buy a Lee mold in a given bullet weight that I'm interested in shooting and if it turns out that I like that weight then I'll invest in an RCBS or Lyman mold of the same weight. It's a good, inexpensive way to see if I want to cast that weight bullet before I spend the "big bucks" on a more expensive mold. I've probably had a dozen or more Lee molds over the years and they've all be well worth the $20 bucks that you spend on em'. Like I said, this is the first one that I've had that's given me any trouble with the blocks lining up. Not going to worry too much since there's an RCBS mold in my future. :cool:

fredj338
11-11-2011, 14:04
I'll normally buy a Lee mold in a given bullet weight that I'm interested in shooting and if it turns out that I like that weight then I'll invest in an RCBS or Lyman mold of the same weight. It's a good, inexpensive way to see if I want to cast that weight bullet before I spend the "big bucks" on a more expensive mold. I've probably had a dozen or more Lee molds over the years and they've all be well worth the $20 bucks that you spend on em'. Like I said, this is the first one that I've had that's given me any trouble with the blocks lining up. Not going to worry too much since there's an RCBS mold in my future. :cool:
I am a big fan of the RCBS molds, used to be Lachmiller, very good product. I just wish they made a 3 or 4cav design. If you can't find something exactly as you want, go to MountainMolds & check out their design page. You can pretty much have any wt/style that fits into the program & his work is first rate, quality/heavy alum is used & they cast easily right out of the box.

EL_NinO619
11-11-2011, 17:00
Now you say somthing Fred...lol. I will check them out. I want a mold that mimics the montana XD Bullet. And one that is not LEE. Everyone knows I am a LEE fan, but with thier molds... Not so much. For casting a bullet I want quality, not quantity. I rather have 2 molds that work everytime than 12 that I always have to fight.

fredj338
11-11-2011, 17:29
You already bought the Lyman! You'll like it if it is properly made. A good balance of speed & castability. They do get heavy. Any 2cav is slow & RCBS only makes 2cav. The Lyman is the best RN shape IMO, close to ball duplicate. You'll be fine. Now where are you getting your cheap/free alloy? Don't be afraid to include me in your Xmas stocking list. A lump of lead is a perfectly acceptable present where coal is not.:santa:

EL_NinO619
11-11-2011, 23:32
I Cleaned out a local Gun store. He charged me about .80 cents a lb. And he packed it into free ammo cans for me. Next time we come up I will make sure the lead fairy "Chris" Leaves a couple ingots in your pot.

Oh ya and a Local mechanic that was more than willing to give them to me. I offered to pay but he said hes happy to get them out of his shop. But I do have to pick through valve stems, cig butts and razor blades... Its like going through Jacks trash on a Sunday....

EL_NinO619
11-12-2011, 14:38
Got the Lyman mold today. Its very top notch quality. Even though it was inspected by Cathy, I hear on Castboolits that see may be going blind. I can tell you one thing its heave 2lbs 11 ounces and the LEE is less than a pound. But I think the 4 Cavity's and the hope of not fighting it all session will make up for it weight. I have inspect the Mold and absolutely no light shows through everything is lining up correctly and I am happy with the quaility of it, though I have not done a single cast with it, looks like more expensive molds are worth it..

GioaJack
11-12-2011, 15:17
It's going to be coated in oil so take the sprue plate off and boil everything real good before you try to cast with it.


Jack

EL_NinO619
11-12-2011, 16:28
I used Locktite Industrial Degreaser, But If that's not enough I will Boil. But aren't Steel Molds more susceptible to rust.

Also Do you Lube the Mold like the LEE molds.

GioaJack
11-12-2011, 16:36
The boiling temperature will cause the mould to dry very quickly so there's no worry of rust until you store it and then only if you live in an area with humidity. I haven't put a drop of oil on my moulds in over 30 years but then again I have no humidity... God likes me, he thinks you're an as.... well, never mind about that.

The degreaser may work but boiling is so easy and gets every bit of oil off the mould there's really no reason not to do it.

I don't know how to lube a Lee mould but on my iron moulds all I do is put a small drop of oil into the hole for the sprue plat screw to keep it from seizing and that's it. I've never used any other kind of lube but I know many people do... I've just never had the need.


Jack

EL_NinO619
11-12-2011, 16:40
Thanks, except for the comment of God not liking me...:crying:

fredj338
11-13-2011, 10:59
I used Locktite Industrial Degreaser, But If that's not enough I will Boil. But aren't Steel Molds more susceptible to rust.

Also Do you Lube the Mold like the LEE molds.
THe downside to iron molds, you have to put oil on them, after casting, if you live in any humid tye enviro. You'll need to store them in the house or if in the garage, they'll need oil to keep the rust away between sessions. Before cating, I'll heat the mold up & a bit & then spray it down inside w/ Guns scrubber or other degreaser, then start casting. It will take 5-6 passes to get the mold upto temp & any risidual oil to cook off. A hot plate helps or just set the mold on the edge of the pot & let it heat while your alloy comes to temp. That reminds me, I should cast some today.

EL_NinO619
11-13-2011, 12:54
The mold worked great. It does take a lot longer to come up to temp. The mold is really heavy but the good part is, I don't feel like I have to squeeze it together like the LEE. I really like the shape of the bullets, Kinda like a huge 9mm. Also the Temp gauge really helped. I must have been running around 900 deg before. Because last night with the gauge, when I had the dial on 6 it was about 800 and rising. I ran the pot on 3 the whole time, except for when refilling. I also wanting to see if you guys ever used this Flux. Its called Buck Beaver. I got it off Ebay. To me it work a lot better than beeswax etc, the pot got really clean and stayed clean.