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UniversalBrow06
11-08-2011, 22:07
EDIT: just got it in the mail, and slapped it together for a quick pic:

http://pics.campl.us/f/c/c83325e95b86c298f0ee717c50c5d596.jpg

Will definitely be replacing the PRO and MBUS with a scope and Troy BUIS, but for right now it'll do. Hopefully I can get to the range soon and test it all out.

Original message:

I guess it's technically too late to second guess dud to negative feedback on this setup, but I just ordered up one of these:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/442743/noveske-ar-15-rogue-hunter-a3-flat-top-upper-assembly-556x45mm-nato-1-in-7-twist-18-barrel-stainless-steel-with-troy-trx-free-float-handguard-flash-hider

... And wondered if any of you have had any experience with this upper. Anyone own or extensively fired one? Any pics? Tips on using this upper for a build? Anyone a fan?

UniversalBrow06
11-09-2011, 14:36
Nobody? I thought there were some Noveske Stainless steel barrel fans here...

Mayhem like Me
11-09-2011, 17:01
I have an Afghan with the stainless 1x7 poly . it is 14.5 inches and very accurate have to check but I think the chamber is model O.

You should see better than .5 MOA with just about everything worth hunhing with.

surf
11-09-2011, 21:46
Negative feedback? That is an outstanding upper and barrel. I build numerous customs off of Noveske barrels. The negative is the cost, but the overall quality and performance is about as good as it could get.

Alaskapopo
11-10-2011, 02:00
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/AR%20style%20rifles/ThreegunRogueHunter.jpg
I love mine. I bought the upper and assembled the free lower I got from them.

I would get this one however now but it was not an option when I purchased mine. Just to get the slightly lighter barrel.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/467414/noveske-ar-15-nst-a3-flat-top-upper-assembly-556x45mm-nato-1-in-7-twist-18-barrel-stainless-steel-with-troy-trx-free-float-handguard-sjc-titan-brake-30-round-magazine?cm_vc=S016ID442743

UniversalBrow06
11-10-2011, 06:30
Hey Alaska, have you had any problems with the Troy TRX rails? I see people complaining about their throwing off accuracy due to the way they attach to the upper, but I can't tell if this is a legitimate problem or not. What kind of accuracy are you seeing with these barrels?

I originally wanted to go with the NST, but I couldn't justify the Titan Comp with the setup I'm building. Plus from what I could gather, the Rogues come with a BCM Gunfighter CH, and the NST has the standard Noveske forged. Wish the the Rogues came with something besides the old birdcage though...

Alaskapopo
11-10-2011, 13:20
Hey Alaska, have you had any problems with the Troy TRX rails? I see people complaining about their throwing off accuracy due to the way they attach to the upper, but I can't tell if this is a legitimate problem or not. What kind of accuracy are you seeing with these barrels?

I originally wanted to go with the NST, but I couldn't justify the Titan Comp with the setup I'm building. Plus from what I could gather, the Rogues come with a BCM Gunfighter CH, and the NST has the standard Noveske forged. Wish the the Rogues came with something besides the old birdcage though...

Its a solid 1 moa gun.
Pat

UniversalBrow06
11-10-2011, 16:05
Its a solid 1 moa gun.
Pat

Hmm... I was hoping for better. Granted, it's better than what I can do.

Alaskapopo
11-10-2011, 17:28
Hmm... I was hoping for better. Granted, it's better than what I can do.

Here is my range log on it and a link to some photos of my targets with it. If I used a more powerful scope with finer cross hairs I am sure it would come down to .75 moa.

http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/NOveske%20Rogue%20Hunter%20targets/

Noveske Rogue Hunter Log Book

11-22-10
The velocities were as follows. Temperature was 40 degrees. 11-22-10
24.1 N140 77 grain SMK
1. 2568
2. 2591
3. 2605
4. 2600
5. 2591

Average 2591
Spread 37
Power Factor 199.5

3-16-11

Laupa 77 grain bullets Rem 7.5 primer Lake City Brass 24 grains of N140
1. 2543
2. 2507
3. 2553
4. 2538
5. 2552
Average 2538 Spread 46
Accuracy 1.58


Laupa77 N135 21.8 grains

1. 2474
2. 2514
3. 2496
4. 2504
5. 2506
Average 2498
Accuracy 1.04

69 grain Sierra CCI 400 primers LakeCity Brass 25.3 grains of RE15

1. 2540
2. 2649
3. 2603
4. 2631
5. 2609
Average 2606 Spread 91
Accuracy 1.22






55 grain Hornady V match 25.5 grains of H335 CCI primers

1. 2965
2. 3031
3. 2993
4. 2976
5. 3005
Average 2988 spread 55
Accuracy 1.173


4-19-11
Load 21.6 grains of N135 77 grain Sierra SMK Rem match primers Brass not chaffered.
1. 2573
2. 2558
3. 2549
4. 2529
5. 2603
Average 2562 Spread 74 Accuracy 1.28 (10 groups)

Load 22.5 grains of H335 Bullet 75 Grain Hornady with Cannular
1. 2456
2. 2526
3. 2560
4. 2517
5. 2504
6. 2488
Average 2508 Spread 104 Accuracy 1.34 (Mixed brass average 1.63)

To switch from 170 yard 77 grain zero to 55 grain vmax at 100 yards
5 clicks up 2 clicks left.



5-17-11
Load 1

New Lake City Brass, Federal Match Primers, Lapua 77 grain Scenar bullets loaded to 2.60 OAL. 48 degrees. Powder VV N135 21.8 grains

1. 2508
2. 2534
3. 2531
4. 2534
5. 2529
Average 2527, Spread 25 fps, Power factor 194, Muzzle energy 1091
Average group from 5 5 shot groups fired at 100 yards 1.05

Load 2 Once fired Lake City Brass, Federal Match Primers, Sierra 77 grain SMK loaded to 2.55, Powder VV N135 21.8 grains 50 degrees

1. 2488
2. 2482
3. 2474
4. 2476
5. 2488
Average 2481, Spread 14, Power factor 191, Muzzle energy 1052 Average group from 5 5 shot groups fired at 100 yards .95

Notes: 75 grain Hornady load Hits dead on at 100 yards with gun zeroed at 170 with 77 grain Sierra load (21.8 grains of N135) Lapua bullets hit 2.5 inches high at 100 yards with 170 yard Sierra zero. 3 clicks down to get it on at 100 yards.

Shot 5 5 shot groups with the 75 grain Hornady bullet with cannular and the average group size was1.79.

8-1-11

Load 1 tested N135 22.4 grains with 68 grain Hornady BTHP Rem primers Lake City Brass.
Average Group size 1.61
Chrono 2570 Spread 22

Load 2 tested N140 24.6 grains to 25 grains Rem match primer Lake city brass 68 grain Hornady. (Scope needs to be dialed 3 clicks down)
Average group size 1.25
Chrono 2634 spread 48

8-2-11

Load tested 26.4 grains of H335, 52 grain Hornady BTHP, CCI 400 primers, Lake City Brass.
Accuracy 1.27
Chrono 3122 Spread 39


8-8-11

Load1
Rem match primers Lake City Brass. 68 grain Hornady Seconds bullets. 24.2 grains of Varget. Average group size 1.22 Velocity Low 2559 High 2585 Average 2569 Spread 27

Load 2
H335 23.0 grains
Remington match primers
Lake city brass new.
68 grain Hornady factory seconds bullets
Average group size 1.70

Velocity
Low 2557
High 2651
Average 2612
Spread 94

8-17-11

Load tested 26.4 grains of H335, 52 grain Hornady BTHP, CCI 400 primers, New Lake City Brass.
Accuracy 1.04

8-20-11

Load tested Plinking load 24.5 grains of TAC, Old mixed brass, 55 grain Montana Gold bullets, CCI 400 primers,
Average accuracy 2.63
Large group 3.44
Small group 1.71
Same point of impact as 52 grain match load.

Chrono
2 strings fired
Low 2743
High 2924
Average 2833
Spread 181

Low 2865
High 2941
Avg 2899
Spread 76
Overall spread from both 198
Overal all average 2866
1003 Foot pounds
157 Power factor

8-23-11

Load tested 21.8grains of N135 77 grain SMK with cannular
Rem Match Primers New Lake City Brass.

Accuracy 1.22
Chrono
Low 2385
High 2454
Avg 2408
Spread 48

8-29-11
Load tested 25.5 grains of H335 with Remington primers, new Lake City brass 55 grain Montana Gold FMJ’s
Accuracy 2.30
Chrono
Low 2988
High 3099
Avg 3031

Spread 110
SD 42

10-31-11

Load 21.8 grains of N135 New lake City brass, Rem match primers 77 grain Nosler BTHP.
Average 2449
High 2468
Low 2429
Spread 39
Standard Deviation 18

Accuracy 1.34