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CAcop
11-09-2011, 11:40
Save me......

longhaulcop
11-09-2011, 11:43
Grin and Bear, just like sexual harassment in service.

nndavec
11-09-2011, 12:03
Resist the urge to vomit...........

DaBigBR
11-09-2011, 12:34
It all pays the same.

Glock30Eric
11-09-2011, 12:38
Seriously, it is full of joke. They said we need to respect gay blah blah but we can't discuss about the religion thing because it stirs up the heat in the discussion. What the heck! Same thing we can't talk about tea-party blah blah because of politically correction, what the heck!? I think you should start talking about respecting people that open carry the weapons because they are here to protect you........ ;)

ateamer
11-09-2011, 12:46
The first time we had sensitivity training was around 1989 or '90. They brought in some gal from San Francisco to teach it. Early in the day, she was talking about making judgements based on appearances, and asked the group (a patrol team of 25 or 30 deputies) what kind of things came to mind about her as they looked at her. A crusty old-timer in the back row piped up and said "well, I can see you didn't spend too much time on your hair and makeup this morning."

It went downhill from there and she was almost crying by the end of the day. They brought in a tall, well-spoken, forceful old-timer of a male assistant chief to teach the other team.

PawDog
11-09-2011, 13:19
Damn......one of the many things I no longer have to tolerate since retiring in 2009. Sat through that 'feel good, we are the world' indoctrination BS for at least 20 years.

And the offender in the videos was always some goofy White male.......:faint:

cowboywannabe
11-09-2011, 13:23
do your 12 and go the frack home.

CAcop
11-09-2011, 14:20
Four more hours and I have no clue what the point is. They are teaching what not to say in Spanish. Strangely puto was not on the forbidden list. It was the only word I could think of when they asked me to say a word in Spanish.

Newcop761
11-09-2011, 14:27
Mentiroso.

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CAcop
11-09-2011, 15:01
Now we are covering micro expressions.

cowboywannabe
11-09-2011, 15:08
es siempre la misma mierda

trdvet
11-09-2011, 15:09
Never talk to the police civilians!!!

cowboywannabe
11-09-2011, 15:16
bro, i dont envy you at all but we've all been there......

The-Fly
11-09-2011, 15:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smciRU0d38U

msu_grad_121
11-09-2011, 15:30
Dos cervesas frios por favor. :supergrin:

I was actually pretty lucky at my last cultural diversity class. We got to watch Crash.

Newcop761
11-09-2011, 15:49
Now we are covering micro expressions.

I'm afraid to ask what is a "micro expression"?

Sent from my Nexus One

trdvet
11-09-2011, 16:01
I'm afraid to ask what is a "micro expression"?

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pandora_opening_her_box_by_James_Gillray.jpg/220px-Pandora_opening_her_box_by_James_Gillray.jpg

Patchman
11-09-2011, 16:07
My only practical concern is, if you were born a female but think of yourself as a male (or visa versa), when you're in the prisoner's bathroom, can I look in to see if you're trying to drown yourself in the toilet?

And if in the bathroom you're trying to commit suicide, do I have to knock on the door and announce myself before entering?

CAcop
11-09-2011, 16:24
They are covering our goals for this class. Someone wrote, "To learn to talk to people high on meth."

The instructor asked, "how do you know if they are high on meth?"

Response from the circle of trust, "They have a lot of copper wire and a ****load of porn."

CAcop
11-09-2011, 16:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smciRU0d38U

If the instructors were cops with a sense humor they would have played that at the beginning. Of course if they were cops with senses of humor they wouldn't be teaching this.

I have no idea how POST approved this. I can't follow the point. They are talking about filters and amplifiers now.

trdvet
11-09-2011, 16:38
The instructor asked, "how do you know if they are high on meth?"

Response from the circle of trust, "They have a lot of copper wire and a ****load of porn."

:rofl:

CAcop
11-09-2011, 16:40
And now he is talking about his time in Nigeria....really lost now.

CAcop
11-09-2011, 16:46
He was on biases for a few minutes....now we are back to Nigeria....

CAcop
11-09-2011, 17:17
And we're back on point...racial profiling...

CAcop
11-09-2011, 17:37
Watching Brad Hamilton get fired from burger joint.

From the back, "Let's watch the Phoebe Cates scene now."

CAcop
11-09-2011, 17:37
Watching Brad Hamilton get fired from burger joint.

From the back, "Let's watch the Phoebe Cates scene now."

CAcop
11-09-2011, 17:41
And now they are telling racial jokes.

CAcop
11-09-2011, 17:52
Into groups again.

Dragoon44
11-09-2011, 18:11
I never needed cultural diversity training I already hated everyone equally.

:tongueout::rofl:

If they had been around I don't believe the admins would have had the nerve to try and send me to one.

:rofl:

ateamer
11-09-2011, 19:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smciRU0d38U
:rofl::rofl: That's actually the only episode of Rescue Me that I've ever seen. Is Denis Leary that good in every ep?

Hack
11-09-2011, 20:21
I never was politically correct. Cultural diversity only goes so far with me. By Christian ethics I can love the sinner, and hate the sin. Homosexuality is considered sinful behaviour by both Jewish and Christian standards, and no one can expect me to accept the behaviour since I go by those standards; since I may remind them of that. But, I can accept that a person is going to not abide by those standards, and work with him or her. I cannot abide by standards that are contrary to law and doctrine concerning my faith, but I can accept that there are those who will have different standards, if any. I can accept that there are those who are of different genders, and have different standards of society, and even different skin pigments. I have no problem with looking past that, because as humans go we all are different in some way. But, I will not meet the expectation of accepting others to the detriment of my faith, myself, and the standards that I live by. If someone expects me to feel sorry for myself because I am largely white, or a mixed blood, or expect that someone should have a job based on other than standards of merit, he/she can stuff it. I have seen the results of so called affirmative action.

My preferential treatment of others is largely relegated to the past for some of those who go by diversity to the exclusion of others. I have seen the results of treating others who are of a different skin colour, living an aberrant lifestyle, and so on. The results have never been good over all, as the ones who are of a majority then feel slighted, and their moral is lessened.

What is my preferential treatment of others?

I treat women with respect as per the Christian standard.
I treat elders with respect as per the Christian standard.
I treat those who labour in the faith as per the Christian standard.
I treat veteran soldiers, and veterans of law enforcement with respect.
And, as to the application of things concerning how I treat others within my professional capacity I treat them equally.

If they want more than that, they can talk to someone else, as I am not about to change to suit the so called purposes of cultural diversity other than what it was really meant to be. Multiculturalism is the death of this country, if a person who is a US citizen should be expected to be anything other than a US Citizen. You either are a US Citizen or a citizen of another country.

I am not a mixed blood American, nor a white American, nor even a Christian American. I am simply stated an American who believes in E Pluribus Unum. If it not the popular opinion any longer so be it. As far as I am concerned if you are not for this country you are for the country of your citizenship elsewhere, regardless of your ancestry, your religion, and your sexual preference, (and it is a preference).

:soap:

DaBigBR
11-09-2011, 23:05
:rofl::rofl: That's actually the only episode of Rescue Me that I've ever seen. Is Denis Leary that good in every ep?

I lost track of it after the first couple seasons, but when I was watching it it was generally a pretty damn funny show.

lawman800
11-10-2011, 08:20
Dude, when they introduced this crap the first time, the instructor apologized to us for making us do it. I know I never had to do this crap in the mid-90's when I started. They couldn't decide on a name either. The course name kept changing.

At least sexual harassment training can be funny sometimes. Actually, I teach it once in a while and I try to make it as funny as I can while adhering to the class material.

Dragoon44
11-10-2011, 08:30
Dude, when they introduced this crap the first time, the instructor apologized to us for making us do it. I know I never had to do this crap in the mid-90's when I started. They couldn't decide on a name either. The course name kept changing.

At least sexual harassment training can be funny sometimes. Actually, I teach it once in a while and I try to make it as funny as I can while adhering to the class material.

it's a sad state of affairs when cops have to be trained how to sexually harass.

:crying::supergrin::wavey:

Mayhem like Me
11-10-2011, 08:35
it's a sad state of affairs when cops have to be trained how to sexually harass.

:crying::supergrin::wavey:

Dragoon do you remember back when florida required this to keep your certification then I had to attend separate training for instructors on this matter.

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Dragoon44
11-10-2011, 08:37
Dragoon do you remember back when florida required this to keep your certification then I had to attend separate training for instructors on this matter.

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must have happened right after my time, or we didn't get the memo since I never went to any such crap.

Mayhem like Me
11-10-2011, 08:54
1992 act by c j s t c required all certified officers to attend a 40 hour cultural diversity training block

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msu_grad_121
11-10-2011, 10:09
1992 act by c j s t c required all certified officers to attend a 40 hour cultural diversity training block

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40 HOURS?! I'd lose my mind! The academy in Michigan MAY teach 8 hours, and that's pushing it.

CAcop
11-10-2011, 10:12
it's a sad state of affairs when cops have to be trained how to sexually harass.

:crying::supergrin::wavey:

The last time we had sexual harrassment training one of our Sgts. managed to say something grossly inappropriate to a female officer a half an hour before the training.

Of course back in the day it was done in house by Lts. Now it is done by HR. Why? Well a Lt. giving the training to a new female non-sworn employee said, "So what would you do if I put my cock in your mouth?"

lawman800
11-10-2011, 10:59
40 HOURS?! I'd lose my mind! The academy in Michigan MAY teach 8 hours, and that's pushing it.

When they first started this crap, it was a 4 hour block. Then it became an 8 hour block. Then the instructors apologized everytime it had to be refreshed.

Dragoon44
11-10-2011, 11:15
1992 act by c j s t c required all certified officers to attend a 40 hour cultural diversity training block

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yep just as I thought. just missed it. May 1992 was my last month actually working.

Mayhem like Me
11-10-2011, 12:50
yep just as I thought. just missed it. May 1992 was my last month actually working.

I did some web research, they did away with the 40 hour requirment in training in 2006, so I guess each agency or Academy can set the standard as to what training is needed....

PinkoCommie
11-10-2011, 12:50
:rofl::rofl: That's actually the only episode of Rescue Me that I've ever seen. Is Denis Leary that good in every ep?

The whole show is awesome. Watch it all.

Mayhem like Me
11-10-2011, 12:52
40 HOURS?! I'd lose my mind! The academy in Michigan MAY teach 8 hours, and that's pushing it.

On the first day we had to give ourselves a nickname, I was a Sgt. in Narcotics and sporting a semi mullet and big red beard my name was BIG OTT...

The Latina instructor figured it out after lunch....

lawman800
11-10-2011, 13:48
I don't get it.

Dragoon44
11-10-2011, 14:21
I'm guessing my referring to our first female "patrolman" as Dickless tracy and dirty Harriet, would be frowned upon these days,

:rofl::rofl:

Mayhem like Me
11-10-2011, 14:26
I don't get it.

Really

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lawman800
11-10-2011, 15:36
Nevermind, I got it after lunch as well.

Sincerely,

Ray Cyst

Mayhem like Me
11-10-2011, 16:47
Nevermind, I got it after lunch as well.

Sincerely,

Ray Cyst

I'm using that one next time....:rofl:

fla2760
11-10-2011, 20:38
And now he is talking about his time in Nigeria....really lost now.

Just don't let him talk you into any investments. :supergrin:

fla2760
11-10-2011, 20:44
The last time we had sexual harrassment training one of our Sgts. managed to say something grossly inappropriate to a female officer a half an hour before the training.

Of course back in the day it was done in house by Lts. Now it is done by HR. Why? Well a Lt. giving the training to a new female non-sworn employee said, "So what would you do if I put my cock in your mouth?"


LOL, in the old days the right response would assure her of being his driver, assuming she was hot.

Hack
11-10-2011, 22:01
Nevermind, I got it after lunch as well.

Sincerely,

Ray Cyst

:rofl:

Morris
11-11-2011, 10:02
The first time we had sensitivity training was around 1989 or '90. They brought in some gal from San Francisco to teach it. Early in the day, she was talking about making judgements based on appearances, and asked the group (a patrol team of 25 or 30 deputies) what kind of things came to mind about her as they looked at her. A crusty old-timer in the back row piped up and said "well, I can see you didn't spend too much time on your hair and makeup this morning."

:rofl::rofl: This is what happens when you get some dip teaching a room full of cops.

lawman800
11-11-2011, 11:43
LOL, in the old days the right response would assure her of being his driver, assuming she was hot.

Dude, that is so wrong!:steamed:

Everyone knows only commanders, deputy chiefs, and chiefs get drivers.:whistling:

lawman800
11-11-2011, 11:47
:rofl::rofl: This is what happens when you get some dip teaching a room full of cops.

We made a lieutenant gasp with horror all day while she tried to teach an in service report writing class. She had no clue what she was talking about. She was clearly some AA climber with no real experience. We talked about the stuff we seen and ask she can say was, "oh my...", "okay...", "maybe we shouldn't talk about that", "oh, I haven't seen that before", and "that's not how you're supposed to do that!"

Morris
11-11-2011, 13:25
We talked about the stuff we seen and ask she can say was, "oh my...", "okay...", "maybe we shouldn't talk about that", "oh, I haven't seen that before", and "that's not how you're supposed to do that!"

Both frightening and funny.

lawman800
11-11-2011, 14:58
Was funny for us for a while until it became sad that she is in command.

fla2760
11-12-2011, 01:46
Dude, that is so wrong!:steamed:

Everyone knows only commanders, deputy chiefs, and chiefs get drivers.:whistling:

:supergrin::supergrin::supergrin:

steveksux
11-12-2011, 05:34
I'm afraid to ask what is a "micro expression"?

Sent from my Nexus OneFirst you couldn't say midgets, then it was little people, now you have to call them "micro expressions"??? :whistling:

Randy

steveksux
11-12-2011, 05:46
Nevermind, I got it after lunch as well.

Sincerely,

Ray CystI'm laughing so hard right now that my.... oh nevermind...

Dick Hertz

evilwill
11-12-2011, 09:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smciRU0d38U

Ive never watched this show before, this was funny as hell. The tirade at the end was spot on. This is very close to how we speak to each other, at least at my command, because over the years we learned to grow thicker skin and we know its not with any malice.
A couple of guys I work with were talking about how long we would last working in a corporate environment after being on the job and our conclusion was a week at most and we would be in HR at least 5 times a day everyday.
About 5 years ago the city thought it would be a great idea to implement a cultural sensitivity class for the recruits at the Apollo theater in Harlem. It was to be taught by that race baiter reverend al. I don't think they would dare to offer this class to guys with time on for fear of the venom we would spew.

Hack
11-12-2011, 10:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smciRU0d38U

I wasn't going to respond to this in particular, but the pink Irish guy and others are portraying the thoughts of a lot of people in this country. Especially the common thought put out there: white guys are the main one prejudice."

I'm a mixed blood who looks white, and is diabetic. But, if I were to apply for anything having to with the EEO or what have you, I think I would be laughed out of the room, at least by some of the ones who are of some other skin pigment. Now, do I get along with people of all ethnic groups at work? Yeah, no problems. But, why is it that the white guy, is the angry white guy, especially when the white guy in particular happens to be a conservative Christian? Do, I get along with the women? Mainly. I don't interact with a lot of them, but I will probably see more in the future. It wasn't that many years ago that women were not even allowed in with the inmates where I work at. About ten years before I got there it was unheard of.

And, although I have to respect the person's right to be something other than heterosexual, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it. But, I can work with them. I just wish they would quit the B.S.

lawman800
11-12-2011, 11:33
I'm laughing so hard right now that my.... oh nevermind...

Dick Hertz

Touche my friend!

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