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shane.rawlings
11-11-2011, 16:05
Adjustable charge bar, micro disk, double micro disk?

something else?

id like to hear whats working for you,

thanks

unclebob
11-11-2011, 16:11
Adjustable charge bar, micro disk, double micro disk?

something else?

id like to hear whats working for you,

thanks

What press are you dealing with and what powder measures? And how low do you want to go for a charge?

dwhite53
11-11-2011, 16:14
Home made dippers. Fast, easy, accurate.

All the Best,
D. White

fx77
11-11-2011, 16:17
http://quick-measure.com/progadapter.htm

XDRoX
11-11-2011, 16:17
My 550 throws under 3gr just fine.

WiskyT
11-11-2011, 16:23
My Autodisc works great for 2.7 Bullseye. I use the micro disc for 1.5 Bullseye for 32ACP. The micro adjustable charge bar that Lee sent me for free doesn't throw small charges worth a darn and the instructions say as much.

fredj338
11-11-2011, 16:26
Adjustable bar; RCBS or Dillon.

PCJim
11-11-2011, 17:08
Stock powder bar in 550, trickle charger is a no brainer but slow.

jmorris
11-11-2011, 18:17
I throw down to 2.5g with a Dillon measure.

Boxerglocker
11-11-2011, 18:36
I throw down to 2.5g with a Dillon measure.

My stock small slide would not do better than 2.8-9 grains of W231, so I got the X-small and it goes way lower.

Colorado4Wheel
11-11-2011, 18:40
Adjustable charge bar, micro disk, double micro disk?

something else?

id like to hear whats working for you,

thanks

Those options are all Lee Auto Disc options.

DO NOT use the adjustable charge bar. Other options are fine.

F106 Fan
11-11-2011, 19:26
Extra-small powder bar for Dillow powder measure, not included with the powder measure but available at extra cost.

I have also used the RCBS Little Dandy measure with replaceable rotors of fixed size:
http://www.rcbs.com/downloads/instructions/Little_Dandy_Pistol_Powder_Measure_Instructions.pdf

Actually, once you have the proper rotor installed, this is a very nice powder measure. No adjustments and no adjustment slippage.

Richard

jmorris
11-11-2011, 21:51
My stock small slide would not do better than 2.8-9 grains of W231, so I got the X-small and it goes way lower.



I don't have one of the extra small bars. I have stock small ones at 3.1g of vvn310 and another of 2.5g of Clays. What powder you are using is going to make a difference.

HAMMERHEAD
11-11-2011, 22:19
Redding 10X. Small chamber for pistol and small rifle only, micrometer settings.

shane.rawlings
11-11-2011, 23:01
Im using win 231 and tite group, i have the lee classic turret with the pro disk powder measure...

im looking at the light loads for 147 gr lead 9mm, these are between 2 and 3.5 grains and the micro is to small while the smallest hole that comes with it is a little to big for a starting load,

im wondering if i could stack 2 of the micros in the double disk?

Colorado4Wheel
11-12-2011, 07:19
There is a logical transition from the micro discs to the discs that came with your pro auto disc, not a gap as you describe. The starting load of 3.2 grs of 231 (using my data) is probably going to be thrown using the discs that came with your powder measure. Below 3.2 grs you may need the micro discs. BUT, Lee's data usually is wrong when it comes to how much powder the disc will throw. Usually, the disc they say will throw 3.2 grs will throw about .2 grs light. So if you take that into consideration the standard discs will probably throw below 3 grs of 231. As always, weight the charge your setup is throwing. Do not go off their charts alone. If you need a in between size the best thing to do is just buy some extra discs and sand a smaller one out to a middle size.

shane.rawlings
11-12-2011, 10:12
the micro disk goes up to .27 while the smallest on the regular die is .30

my main concern is with the titegroup

F106 Fan
11-12-2011, 10:23
the micro disk goes up to .27 while the smallest on the regular die is .30

my main concern is with the titegroup


But have you measured an actual powder charge?

Here's a year old thread of exactly the same topic:
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=105520

Richard

Colorado4Wheel
11-12-2011, 10:29
the micro disk goes up to .27 while the smallest on the regular die is .30

my main concern is with the titegroup

That is the normal spread of CC's. If you want .285cc's then buy a extra set of each and sand it open a small amount. It's not a big deal. All the discs jump about .02-.03cc's

Colorado4Wheel
11-12-2011, 10:36
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/98sr20ve/DSC_3512.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/98sr20ve/DSC_3510.jpg

I did that for a larger cavity. I filled the small hole in the set screw with JBweld. Then used some teflon tape to create more tension so it won't move easily. Size of set screw is in the picture.

shane.rawlings
11-12-2011, 20:56
that looks like something id be interested in doing, what did you use, just a drill or did u tap it too?

Colorado4Wheel
11-12-2011, 21:16
Drill and tap. It will be too loose so you need some Teflon tap.

WiskyT
11-13-2011, 06:09
But have you measured an actual powder charge?

Here's a year old thread of exactly the same topic:
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=105520

Richard

His premise doesn't make any sense. 231, regardless of what Lee's chrat says, is basically 1:1 grains to volume. In other words, that particular powder throws 3.0 grains for the 0.30 cc cavity, and 2.7 grains for the 0.27cc cavity.

Colorado4Wheel
11-13-2011, 18:00
His premise doesn't make any sense. 231, regardless of what Lee's chrat says, is basically 1:1 grains to volume. In other words, that particular powder throws 3.0 grains for the 0.30 cc cavity, and 2.7 grains for the 0.27cc cavity.

In a perfect world but the movement of the press and the shape of the powder can effect how well it packs into the cavity. Probably not a huge change but a change none the less.

shane.rawlings
11-14-2011, 02:38
is it still pretty consistent with the screw in it? i was wondering about the powder not being able to fill in right under it

Colorado4Wheel
11-14-2011, 07:10
is it still pretty consistent with the screw in it? i was wondering about the powder not being able to fill in right under it

The LCT rotates the head so it fills in OK. The more it projects into the cavity the worse it will be. Your using a small cavity so it is not going to need to go into the cavity very much at all. BUT, my advice still is to enlarge a smaller hole to a in between size.

WiskyT
11-14-2011, 12:49
In a perfect world but the movement of the press and the shape of the powder can effect how well it packs into the cavity. Probably not a huge change but a change none the less.

That has nothing to do with the sillyness that 2.7 isn't enough and 3.0 is too much.

TN.Frank
11-14-2011, 13:28
When I first started loading every charge of powder was weighed on an RCBS 505. Then I picked up a set of Lee Powder Dippers and they worked pretty well as long as I could live with the loads that the dippers would measure out. I finally broke down and bought a Lee Perfect Powder Measure and I've not looked back. I can adjust it for just about any load I care to use. Once it's set I then check about every 15th charge on the 505 to make sure it's still throwing an accurate charge and it always does.
IIRC they're not very expensive either.

Colorado4Wheel
11-14-2011, 14:41
That has nothing to do with the sillyness that 2.7 isn't enough and 3.0 is too much.

Agreed. I said that a while back as well.

WiskyT
11-14-2011, 15:04
Agreed. I said that a while back as well.

I'll have the secretary read back the minutes...in my chambers.

GioaJack
11-14-2011, 15:13
I'll have the secretary read back the minutes...in my chambers.

Ah, that would be the court reporter, not secretary. Flatland rookie.


Jack

WiskyT
11-14-2011, 15:21
Ah, that would be the court reporter, not secretary. Flatland rookie.


Jack

I was in the board room, not the court room. I've moved on from my LE career. Now, cancel my three o'clock, I'm off to the range.

Colorado4Wheel
11-14-2011, 15:21
There is a logical transition from the micro discs to the discs that came with your pro auto disc, not a gap as you describe.

I probably confused some people when I said "logical". Then the court jesters showed up to distract attention from someone. It happens.

unclebob
11-14-2011, 17:57
I'll have the secretary read back the minutes...in my chambers.

I was in the board room, not the court room. I've moved on from my LE career. Now, cancel my three o'clock, I'm off to the range.

So won’t that be in your office and not chambers if you are not in the court house?

WiskyT
11-14-2011, 18:01
So won’t that be in your office and not chambers if you are not in the court house?

No, because it has a bed in it. Once you put a bed in it, it becomes chambers.

unclebob
11-14-2011, 18:26
No, because it has a bed in it. Once you put a bed in it, it becomes chambers.

Marlin Chambers?

FM12
11-14-2011, 20:30
Ancient Lee dippers. Work really well.

shane.rawlings
11-14-2011, 23:20
well any way, the screw idea worked great for my 231 load, but for titegroup im going to have to order the micro disk... thanks a lot for the advise