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4949shooter
11-21-2011, 19:20
I am going to need a high penetration jacketed hollowpoint for woods carry. Double Tap claims this round is a high penetration round.

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=40

Has anyone tested it? I would really like a 200 grain XTP loaded to 1200 FPS.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks..

twisted1
11-21-2011, 20:58
I am going to need a high penetration jacketed hollowpoint for woods carry. Double Tap claims this round is a high penetration round.

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_25&products_id=40

Has anyone tested it? I would really like a 200 grain XTP loaded to 1200 FPS.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks..
More like 1150 fps

dryfly
11-21-2011, 21:33
Im with you....I will miss Swamp Fox 200gr xtp's...

Going with Buffalo Bore 180 jhp and their 220 HC for starters...

I am now seriously considering reloading....

TreyG-20
11-21-2011, 21:37
Im with you....I will miss Swamp Fox 200gr xtp's...

Going with Buffalo Bore 180 jhp and their 220 HC for starters...

I am now seriously considering reloading....
No kidding there. Man this sucks

arushus
11-21-2011, 22:23
Im with you....I will miss Swamp Fox 200gr xtp's...

Going with Buffalo Bore 180 jhp and their 220 HC for starters...

I am now seriously considering reloading....

Ya same here, Ive been putting it off since I could always buy from mike, now Ill be getting into it very soon!

4949shooter
11-22-2011, 04:42
Im with you....I will miss Swamp Fox 200gr xtp's...

Going with Buffalo Bore 180 jhp and their 220 HC for starters...

....

What's the latest on the bullets BB is using?

dryfly
11-22-2011, 04:46
Not sure...I think they were using gold dot for their 180gr jhp last year...

4949shooter
11-22-2011, 04:47
Not sure...I think they were using gold dot for their 180gr jhp last year...

Okay thanks..

4949shooter
11-22-2011, 04:55
More like 1150 fps
And apparently they aren't loading an XTP anymore...

dryfly
11-22-2011, 06:05
I will also be playing with the Buffalo Bore 220grain HC...
I am going to stay away from DT because of the chrono inconsistencies and false advertising....

4949shooter
11-22-2011, 07:52
It stinks. There just aren't enough good choices for those of us who don't reload.

G29SF
11-22-2011, 09:21
Im with you....I will miss Swamp Fox 200gr xtp's...

Going with Buffalo Bore 180 jhp and their 220 HC for starters...

I am now seriously considering reloading....

You summed up my thoughts exactly. I have been "thinking" about reloading for a while now. I am going to start saving for a reloading press now. I have been saving brass for a while (think I have around 1k rounds), so I should be OK to get started.

Mike's 200gr XTPs @ 1325 fps sure put a smile on my face...

Never got to shoot his 135gr Noslers @ 1700 fps. Those were part of my last order...

Taterhead
11-22-2011, 09:22
What's the latest on the bullets BB is using?

Every time I have looked at a box of 180s the past couple of years it has been loaded with Montana Gold bullets. I haven't seen Gold Dots for a long time. They are certainly stout, but the bullet isn't a defensive bullet.

dryfly
11-22-2011, 09:30
Why do you say Montana Gold isnt a "defensive bullet" ? Can you elaborate so I could understand? I know the GD's would be a better choice because they are bonded...But a 180grain MG going 1327fps with a 705 KE cant be all that bad of a defensive bullet ??

Deep Blue
11-22-2011, 22:30
Why do you say Montana Gold isnt a "defensive bullet" ? Can you elaborate so I could understand? I know the GD's would be a better choice because they are bonded...But a 180grain MG going 1327fps with a 705 KE cant be all that bad of a defensive bullet ??

Just because it's a hollow point, doesn't mean it's really designed to open. I've seen a video on YouTube that showed underwhelming performance.

4949shooter
11-23-2011, 05:41
Just because it's a hollow point, doesn't mean it's really designed to open. I've seen a video on YouTube that showed underwhelming performance.

Deep Blue, do you have a link to this test by any chance?

dryfly
11-23-2011, 07:58
Anything pushed by a 10mm has got to be effective....at least somewhat effective....

Jitterbug
11-23-2011, 08:08
Just a suggestion, you guy's should look into one of the inexpensive RCBS single stage kits and get started in reloading, at the cost of 10mm ammo it will soon pay for itself, not to mention you can then customize your loads to your needs.

If you shoot anything other then .223/9mm you'll save some serious bucks, I even hand load those two, not so much to save money but simply because my hand loads are superior to any factory load...especially .223/5.56 or something in-between.

Taterhead
11-23-2011, 09:22
Why do you say Montana Gold isnt a "defensive bullet" ? Can you elaborate so I could understand? I know the GD's would be a better choice because they are bonded...But a 180grain MG going 1327fps with a 705 KE cant be all that bad of a defensive bullet ??

The OP was inquiring about a heavy load for woods carry. That implies a need for a bullet that penetrates. A bullet that sheds mass in the manner of the MG target bullet will be less apt to penetrate to vitals on larger animals than a more suitable bullet like an XTP or, to a lesser extent, a 180 gr Gold Dot.

No doubt a high energy offering. They cycle great in my G20.

Taterhead
11-23-2011, 10:02
Just a suggestion, you guy's should look into one of the inexpensive RCBS single stage kits and get started in reloading, at the cost of 10mm ammo it will soon pay for itself, not to mention you can then customize your loads to your needs.

If you shoot anything other then .223/9mm you'll save some serious bucks, I even hand load those two, not so much to save money but simply because my hand loads are superior to any factory load...especially .223/5.56 or something in-between.

I agree. I have an RCBS Rockchucker Supreme press. It is a great tool. Probably will last for the rest of my life

Deep Blue
11-23-2011, 13:44
Deep Blue, do you have a link to this test by any chance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsGnDtgVHc0

4949shooter
11-23-2011, 13:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsGnDtgVHc0

Interesting..thanks.

twisted1
11-23-2011, 19:18
Deep Blue, do you have a link to this test by any chance?

I've tested themon hogs. Here a link
http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Recovered-hollow-points-t112183.html

4949shooter
11-23-2011, 19:43
I've tested themon hogs. Here a link
http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/Recovered-hollow-points-t112183.html

That 10MM Montana Gold held up better than the 9MM tested above. What kind of penetration did you get?

twisted1
11-23-2011, 20:33
Through a 200lb bore. I had to use a metal detector to find it in the mud

4949shooter
11-23-2011, 20:37
Through a 200lb bore. I had to use a metal detector to find it in the mud

That is some serious penetration.

_The_Shadow
11-23-2011, 21:13
A pass thru is not a bad problem when it comes to game animals. Two holes bleed better than one!

twisted1
11-23-2011, 22:42
175 win silver tip and 155ge corbon dpx do the same. Now this is a double lung shot. Far as hitting bone and head shots....... I opt for the 200gr xtp or hard cast. I've hit them in the shoulder with the corbon dpx 155gr doing around 1200fps, and it still got the job done. Any ground from 10mm will deffently stop a human. The bg can have on 2 coats an weigh 400lbs and it's still gonna hit his vitals.

Jitterbug
11-24-2011, 07:37
Twisted, if you had to pick one bullet in 10mm for your Louisiana hogs which would it be and why?

How big do those critters get?

4949shooter
11-24-2011, 07:45
Twisted, if you had to pick one bullet in 10mm for your Louisiana hogs which would it be and why?

How big do those critters get?

Good question.

Also, how much penetration have you been getting on frontal shots?

harley45
11-25-2011, 07:07
Twisted, thanks for posting those results, I've only got one pig so far so I like to compare notes with other Hog hunters, Do you have any autopsy photos?