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Airborne Infantryman
11-23-2011, 18:25
Here is my dilemma; I'm picking up my LMT MWS on Friday. I need an optic.......

I have a Trijicon AccuPoint 3-9x40 w/ Mil-Dot reticle in a LaRue LT-104 on my 5.56mm SPR........

I'm considering two things-

1. Buy a TA11E ACOG 3.5x35 that is calibrated for 175g 7.62 w/ 20 inch barrel (I plan on getting the 20 inch barrel in a month or two)
2. Take the Trijicon AccuPoint 3-9x40 off my SPR, and put it on the LMT, then buy a TA11F ACOG for the SPR.....

I'm open to suggestions. I got roughly $1200 to spend on the optic overall. I like the .308 calibrated ACOG for the simplicity of the BDC......I DO want to be able to get out to 800 meters with the LMT though....I mean, I'm not going for super precision. I just wanna be able to hit 19"x19" targets at 800m with relative ease.......but I'm not quite sure 3.5x magnification is enough for that....

faawrenchbndr
11-23-2011, 18:32
Why not simply use one scope for two rifles?

I use a Mark IV 3.5-10 for my .308 Win FN SPR......works for me out to 620m

Airborne Infantryman
11-23-2011, 18:50
Why not simply use one scope for two rifles?

I use a Mark IV 3.5-10 for my .308 Win FN SPR......works for me out to 620m

I don't wanna have to re-zero everytime I want to shoot one rifle or the other.

I prefer to have an optic on everything so they are ready to go. :supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
11-23-2011, 19:22
Then I would suggest a higher magnafication than 3-9

The Leupy I have would be minimum,.......for me and long range

Airborne Infantryman
11-23-2011, 19:35
Then I would suggest a higher magnafication than 3-9

The Leupy I have would be minimum,.......for me and long range

Hmm....do you have any specific recommendations?

Been doing some research; I just learned that a lot of scopes don't have enough adjustment to reach past 700m, and must be used with a mount that has more MOA built in. I'm tempted to spring for the 5.5x ACOG calibrated for 175g 7.62 with a BDC out to 1000m....at least then, its as simple as just using the BDC.....I probably WON'T be shooting out to 800m, but I'd like my optic to have the ability since the MWS has that ability, especially when I equip it with the 20 inch barrel right after the holidays. :supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
11-23-2011, 19:49
The Mark IV should be good enough for me. I have access to a 875m
steel target. At 620m the 3.5-10x Leupold Mark IV was just fine.

It IS mounted on a 20 degree base.

AK_Stick
11-23-2011, 19:50
Although they're bumping off or just over your price limit, depending on options, I think the Nightforce 2.5-10x32 would be the cats ass on that rifle. With the velocity reticle, you can easily do hold overs for whatever range like the ACOG.


Do you want exposed turrets, or capped ones?

I would also look at the Trijicon 5-20x40 Accupoint, or the Leupold MK-4 line. The 3.5-10x40 is a nice scope.

faawrenchbndr
11-23-2011, 19:53
One of the Sheriff's Deputys has a NightForce,......super sweet glass.
Just a bit more than I can justify for an optic.

Airborne Infantryman
11-23-2011, 19:54
Although they're bumping off or just over your price limit, depending on options, I think the Nightforce 2.5-10x32 would be the cats ass on that rifle. With the velocity reticle, you can easily do hold overs for whatever range like the ACOG.


Do you want exposed turrets, or capped ones?

I would also look at the Trijicon 5-20x40 Accupoint, or the Leupold MK-4 line. The 3.5-10x40 is a nice scope.

I'd prefer capped turrets. I'm the type that prefers using holdovers......you should see me with an M203.....I'm not one to boast, but with an M203, I'm pretty much a big deal. :supergrin::rofl:

AK_Stick
11-23-2011, 20:03
If you want capped turrets, you can knock a couple hundred off the price of the Leupold MK-4 line and get the same glass, in the upper end high magnification scope.


Nightforce really is some stellar glass though, I think the velocity reticule and zero stops would be right up your ally.

M1A Shooter
11-24-2011, 02:10
I'd look into a vortex viper pst series scope. Maybe a bushnell elite if you want a bdc reticle.

glockenturm
11-24-2011, 03:29
http://www.defensereview.com/dr-photos-british-army-config-lmt-308-modular-weapon-system-mws-monolithic-rail-platform-mrp-lmt-l129a1-7-62mm-nato-riflecarbine-for-british-military-marksmen-and-snipers/

The Brits use a 6x Trijicon with general issue 7.62mm, not Match. They claim an ordinary soldier can hit a man-sized target at 800 yds with this set up.

Go to Wally World and pick up the newest Book of the AR-15. Good article on the rifle.

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eracer
11-24-2011, 05:11
Take a look at Sightron. There was an article in Very High Power magazine in which they tested four optics on a .50 BMG at 1000 yds.

Nightforce NSX 12-42x56
Sightron SIII 10-50x56
Leupold 45x
GB2 4-48x56 (Prototype)

They set up a complex target, primarily looking at color recognition, resolution capability, and overall optical performance. They made no determination as to which scope was 'best,' but it was clear to me that the Sightron acquitted itself quite nicely, for about half the cost of the Nightforce. In fact, in several tests of the optic's ability to resolve detail, the Sightron was better.

If I had the money, I would have bought a Nightforce for my Grendel. There is no question that NF scopes are world-class optics. But I don't, so I bought a Sightron SIII 8-32x56 instead. So far, I'm quite pleased, although for my old eyes 24x is about the usable limit (due to exit pupil size.) I may sell the 8-32x and buy a 6-24x instead.

If 50 caliber shooters use that scope, I'm pretty sure the relatively mild recoil of a .308 will present so problems. Sightrons have a lifetime warranty, and are made in Japan. I believe they are a great value in high-performance optics.

Link to a great review. (http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2008/05/first-look-sightron-siii-8-32x56-scope/)

JTLIII
11-25-2011, 02:12
I recently picked up at nightforce 2.5-10x24 and it is just amazing. They can be had used in your price range.

M&P15T
11-25-2011, 08:33
you should see me with an M203.....I'm not one to boast, but with an M203, I'm pretty much a big deal. :supergrin::rofl:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjzDitJLF2XHQSR7AbvcGryqmPUwg5jMNgFW96dqK0FtKX1XXz6Q
:rofl::rofl: