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The Viking
11-25-2011, 13:02
I like the 9mm and the 45 acp; but have come to detest the 40 caliber. My G 35 in 40 cal beats the devil out of my finger knuckle on my middle finger under my trigger finger. So I dropped a 357 Sig barrel in my 35. Much nicer recoil.
What are some good defensive loads for the 357 Sig caliber?

DonGlock26
11-25-2011, 13:06
Golddots and Winchester RangerT.

Watch for bullet set back when you re-chamber .357 Sig too much.


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ghr1142
11-25-2011, 13:07
Gold Dot HP 124 gr. (bad a--)

.50 cal
11-25-2011, 13:11
Speer Gold Dots 125g are what I prefer, Federal HST 125g are good as well if you can track some down

clarkstoncz
11-25-2011, 13:41
Cor-Bon or Double Tap 125s that there have been more than a few dynamic stops with
the Sierra JHP.

DT also has Barnes X bullets in their TAC-XP, but no shootings that I know of.

The Speer 125s are the most recorded of the .357 SIG as it's been the most issued
among cops, and favorite for carry in the caliber since it's inception.

I wouldn't have any qualms with carrying the Hornady XTPs either.

I'm no expert, but there strength of the .357 SIG is that from 80 to 147 grain.. there really isn't a bad defensive load for it.

cowboy1964
11-25-2011, 16:51
I don't have a 357 yet but when I do it will be the Gold Dots all the way.

jv56
11-25-2011, 17:16
I like Corbon 125 Gr JHP!!

smokin762
11-25-2011, 17:28
I like the 9mm and the 45 acp; but have come to detest the 40 caliber. My G 35 in 40 cal beats the devil out of my finger knuckle on my middle finger under my trigger finger. So I dropped a 357 Sig barrel in my 35. Much nicer recoil.
What are some good defensive loads for the 357 Sig caliber?

Believe it or not, when I bought my G19 third generation, it was beating up my middle finger under the trigger guard. I think it was too squared off.

I took a Diamond Compound bit and lightly rounded off the area with my Dremel tool. Then I went over it with some 1000 grit wet sand paper and then for last, I lightly went over the area with 000 Steel Wool.

It no longer affects me. Itís now good to go.

ProtectedByGlock
11-25-2011, 18:03
Believe it or not, when I bought my G19 third generation, it was beating up my middle finger under the trigger guard. I think it was too squared off.

I took a Diamond Compound bit and lightly rounded off the area with my Dremel tool. Then I went over it with some 1000 grit wet sand paper and then for last, I lightly went over the area with 000 Steel Wool.

It no longer affects me. Itís now good to go.

Can you post a picture of the finished product,please?

smokin762
11-25-2011, 18:07
Can you post a picture of the finished product,please?

Here you go.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1360&pictureid=5001

TxGlock9
11-25-2011, 18:55
I carry speer GD hp in my G32.

unit1069
11-25-2011, 19:43
What are some good defensive loads for the 357 Sig caliber?

I have Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot, Bitterroot Valley (Gold Dot), Double Tap (Gold Dot), Hornady XTP, Fiocchi Extrema XTP and a couple other 125-grain rounds that run very well in my Glock.

In the past few months I rediscovered the 147-grain Double Tap Gold Dot ammo I bought several years ago and was favorably impressed with its relatively mild recoil. As a result I currently carry that round in my carry magazine, and I hope to test the 147-grain Hornady XTP rounds I recently acquired.

The two duty calibers I own are 9mm and .357sig. I've never shot 147-grain ammo through any 9mm pistol but keep reading the opinions of others that the 147-grain bullet is the very best self-defense weight bullet for 9mm. If that's true, my thinking goes, the 147-grain .357sig round traveling 200-250 fps faster than a 147-grain 9mm bullet ought to be a formidable fight stopper. Especially if the recoil is milder than the 125-grain .357sig rounds that get all the great press.

When I picked up the Bitterroot Valley ammo at a gun show I talked with the company representative who told me they're testing the 147-grain JHP and may produce one for .357sig. I do believe that caliber makes a whole lot of sense for that weight bullet. At any rate, my second magazine is loaded with 125-grain Speer Gold Dot (54234), a proven round; but I think it's an encouraging sign that some ammo companies are seriously thinking of offering more bullet weights for this great caliber.

On a final note, in the same way I believe 147-grain bullets are too heavy for 9mm compared to the bullet weight that caliber was designed for, I also believe bullet weights less than 125-grain are too light for .357sig so I stay away from those too.

District18
11-25-2011, 19:57
I currently rocking Gold Dots in my G31.

The Viking
11-25-2011, 20:55
Many thanks for all the information much appreciated!

kid168
11-26-2011, 00:09
So which do you guys/gals preffer, 125g or 147g .357sig?

TxGlock9
11-26-2011, 00:49
So which do you guys/gals preffer, 125g or 147g .357sig?

125gr.

Glock40man
11-26-2011, 04:29
So which do you guys/gals preffer, 125g or 147g .357sig?

125 gr.

Pathfinder20
11-26-2011, 08:29
Gold Dot 125 gr

Chowser
11-26-2011, 08:32
I carry Winchester Ranger 125gr. T-series SXT and 125 gr. Bonded JHP in all my .357 guns.

It is what the city provides and are the only authorized rounds we can carry in our duty and off duty weapons. They provide it so we can't complain.

Recovered rounds look wicked and average 1325 fps out of our Glock 31s.
Wishing it would do closer to 1400fps but it is very impressive going into ballistic gelatin and even more impressive going into body armor. Ouch!!

barth
11-26-2011, 08:44
Speer has two duty 357 Sig offerings.
I got the hotter 1375 fps version (54234).
Had 3 FTF in 100 rounds - weird?
It's a gen 3 G27 with factory G33 barrel and mags.
I've shot a boat load of 357 Federal Tactical Bonded without problems.

With the G27 barrel/mags, and in 40, the gun is flawless with any ammo.
I've shot cases of Speer GDHP 155s and Winchester Ranger 180 bonded HPs
through three 22 round Big Sticks. Never a problem.

In all of my guns, various calibers, Winchester Rangers seem to always work.
Even if the gun is a little fussy on what kinds of ammo it will feed.

I'm just saying

dkf
11-26-2011, 19:36
Speer GD 54234 in my G32 and HST in my G33. Will probably be looking at switching to Ranger Bonded in both to only stock one round. The GD doesn't feed as well in my G33 vs my G32. The HST is very hard to find unless your a LEO so the supply is limited. Its too bad because the HST is a great round that feeds great in both. The expansion and weight retention of the HST is also impressive even from a G33 with a shorter barrel. I figure the Rangers profile should feed similar to the HST so that seems like an obvious choice for both.

PghJim
11-26-2011, 21:24
125gr. All brands are probably good and I have carried just about everything in 375sig at one time or another. I do not know about the 147gr stuff. Although DT has some velocity advertisement issues, I have found their 125gr Sierra's reach about 1,500 fps in a 4.5" barrel and probably most simulate the 357 magnum 125 gr loads famous for incapacitation. The GD's have a track record that cannot be ignored. Today I am carrying 125 gr HST's that go about 1,430 fps.

One note: I have shot thousands of rounds of 357sig out of three different Glocks and a Sig 229. I have yet to experience one problem with reliability.

fredj338
11-27-2011, 10:20
The Speer 125gr GDHP is probably the std. THe HST looks promising as does the new PDX. I also like the Ranger & RemGS if you can find it. IMO, no point in th e 147gr loadings. I have thought the Speer 135grGDHP would make a good load running 1300fps. Come on Speer??

KK40384
11-27-2011, 10:31
Gold Dots 125gr in my G32


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RMD
11-28-2011, 11:24
This (http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/50rds-357-sig-speer-gold-dot-le-125gr-hp-ammo/cName/357-sig-hollow-point-ammo).

Ticman
11-29-2011, 18:40
Believe it or not, when I bought my G19 third generation, it was beating up my middle finger under the trigger guard. I think it was too squared off.

I took a Diamond Compound bit and lightly rounded off the area with my Dremel tool. Then I went over it with some 1000 grit wet sand paper and then for last, I lightly went over the area with 000 Steel Wool.

It no longer affects me. Itís now good to go.

I had the same problem and used a round chainsaw file. Then followed up with sand paper. Much more comfortable to shoot now.

AWESOMO 4000
12-04-2011, 01:50
I know I've blathered about it many times, but the best .357SIG load that I've seen is just the regular plain old 125gr Cor-Bon JHP. 1425fps advertised in a full-size 4"+ barrel...my G33 clocked 1380fps this spring. Deffinately more authoritative than the Winchester Ranger/HST/Gold Dot offerings, but nothing objectionable, or would be noticeable should the unthinkable happen.

Closest to what the .357SIG was supposed to originally be: a 125gr .357 Magnum in an auto pistol. Many of the more exotic/LE-themed offerings garner all of the attention, and Cor Bon is a bit expensive. But you do get the cool blue plastic shell holder.

That being said, close second is 125gr Gold Dot for retention and barriers. One thing you don't have to worry about a Cor-Bon doing - NOT expanding.

Detractors of the .357SIG often say it's "just a 9mm on steroids". The bullets themselves in the premium defensive loadings are not the same bullets used for similar 9mm loads. Totally different bullet design, and ridiculously accurate. Seriously, match-grade accuracy out of a P229R and FMJ ammo.

PghJim
12-04-2011, 11:09
I know I've blathered about it many times, but the best .357SIG load that I've seen is just the regular plain old 125gr Cor-Bon JHP. 1425fps advertised in a full-size 4"+ barrel...my G33 clocked 1380fps this spring. Deffinately more authoritative than the Winchester Ranger/HST/Gold Dot offerings, but nothing objectionable, or would be noticeable should the unthinkable happen.

Closest to what the .357SIG was supposed to originally be: a 125gr .357 Magnum in an auto pistol.

I agree. You might want to give Double Tap a try in the 125 JHP. It is the same bullet Cor-bon used to use (Seirra) and you get about 50fps more than the Cor-bon. I think if you have a round that goes less than 1,400 fps out of a 4" barrel, you are not getting the full benefit of the 357 Sig.