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davesretired1
11-28-2011, 15:26
After reading a bunch of postings about Unique, I'm going to be switching over and give it a try ( been using WST, WSF, Bullseye ). So far in reading some load manuals and posts here, I've seen loads 0f 6.5/832 ( Alliant website ), 6.0/840, 6.2 and 6.6 from posts here. I'll be shooting 230 gr. FMJ out of a G30, and 200 gr. SWCL from a 5" Colt, and also from a Lone Wolf barrel in the G30 ( if they'll feed ). Is the range of 6.0-6.6 where I should be looking? I'd like to be around 800 fps from the G30 if possible. These will be used for target shooting ( informal ), practice, and plinking. I already have a SD load for SHTF/Zombies.:whistling: Thanks for any input. Dave

Lockback
11-28-2011, 15:41
FWIW, the 6.0 grains of Unique under a 230 gr. bullet load is a standard for .45ACP. I use it a lot. It works just fine.

10mmbob
11-28-2011, 15:41
Unique, while not the best metering powder in the world is one the best all around pistol powders there is. I've found that 6.0gr. pretty much duplicates a factory load with a 230gr. FMJ.

GioaJack
11-28-2011, 15:43
Don't even waste your time trying to feed SWC's through your G30... you'll have better luck trying to read a Korean newspaper.


Jack

DoctaGlockta
11-28-2011, 15:48
I really enjoy living on the edge so I use 6.0 grains of Unique with my 230 grain LRN.

You only live once right?

TN.Frank
11-28-2011, 16:35
45acp and Unique is a classic combination.

Steve in PA
11-28-2011, 17:09
6.5gr of Unique and 230gr Rainier FMJ's are what I use in my Sig P220's. They shoot great.

tjpet
11-28-2011, 17:20
I don't like to see anyone take a step backward so I'll say stick with WST or WSF. You're already better off.

fredj338
11-28-2011, 17:54
I don't like to see anyone take a step backward so I'll say stick with WST or WSF. You're already better off.

I love me some Unique & lead bullets in anything, but Tj is right, for light to std vel 45acp, it doesn't get much better than WST. Unique is a good +P choice or if you just have to use it, works fine. 6gr w/ 230gr lead & 6.5gr w/ 230gr FMJ (Ranier & Berry's are plated & run inbetween those), pretty nuch ball equiv.

jfrey
11-28-2011, 23:04
I run 6.2 grains under my Berry's flat nose 200 gr.bullets and shoot happily every time. That bullet won't feed in my G36 but my 1911's love it.

Unique and .45's just go together.

Cherokee Slim
11-29-2011, 11:43
45acp and Unique is a classic combination.

I agree. But I just bought a new large container of Unique and am using it for .38, .45acp and .45lc. My cases are coming out regardless of Ruger Vaqueros or Colt 1911, black and dirty around the outside of the mouth. It didn't used to be like that. Bullseye & Trail Boss don't leave the black. Has the Unique formula changed?
Cherokee Slim

fredj338
11-29-2011, 13:44
I agree. But I just bought a new large container of Unique and am using it for .38, .45acp and .45lc. My cases are coming out regardless of Ruger Vaqueros or Colt 1911, black and dirty around the outside of the mouth. It didn't used to be like that. Bullseye & Trail Boss don't leave the black. Has the Unique formula changed?
Cherokee Slim

You are probably running below mid range & not getting enough case expansion to stop the blow back. I tried Unique when I first started CAS, to slow for the light loads often used, so I dropped down to RedDot. It has good loft, & runs in my 12ga fine too.

davesretired1
11-29-2011, 16:09
I love me some Unique & lead bullets in anything, but Tj is right, for light to std vel 45acp, it doesn't get much better than WST. Unique is a good +P choice or if you just have to use it, works fine. 6gr w/ 230gr lead & 6.5gr w/ 230gr FMJ (Ranier & Berry's are plated & run inbetween those), pretty nuch ball equiv.
Thanks for all the info. One question. I'm looking to get up close to SD loadings such as Cor-Bon or Critical Defense which I assume are in the +P range. Can Unique be used to get close to these loads? I'd like to be able to practice with loads that come close to those I carry for SD. TIA. Dave++

aarolar
11-29-2011, 16:49
Any suggestions using unique and a 185 grain XTP? Just picked up my first lb of unique and and looking for load information.

Cherokee Slim
11-30-2011, 12:37
You are probably running below mid range & not getting enough case expansion to stop the blow back. I tried Unique when I first started CAS, to slow for the light loads often used, so I dropped down to RedDot. It has good loft, & runs in my 12ga fine too.

Good Point. I had not even thought about that. We don't load real heavy for the CAS matches.
Cherokee Slim

fredj338
11-30-2011, 14:01
Good Point. I had not even thought about that. We don't load real heavy for the CAS matches.
Cherokee Slim

That is for sure! There are a lot of shooters using just enough powder to get the bullet out of the bbl! I haven't been shooting CAS for about 10yrs now, but used to use a 200grLFP o/RD for about 750fps. A full power load compared to some of those 38sp loads I see used.:shocked:

fredj338
11-30-2011, 14:02
Thanks for all the info. One question. I'm looking to get up close to SD loadings such as Cor-Bon or Critical Defense which I assume are in the +P range. Can Unique be used to get close to these loads? I'd like to be able to practice with loads that come close to those I carry for SD. TIA. Dave++

Yes, you can safely push Unique into the +P range. Getting a 185gr JHP to 1000fps is not diff.