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22rtf2
12-01-2011, 11:36
The rifle below is available at CA for $449. They are calling it a Russian Saiga AK Rifle. Does anybody have any info on it? It appears to be a converted 7.63x39 that they sell for $299 and is being converted by a few folks on here.

http://classicarms.us/semi-auto%20rifles.htm

A lil ways down the page.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww39/henisoomati1/Saiga-Ak.jpg

my762buzz
12-01-2011, 20:51
The rifle below is available at CA for $449. They are calling it a Russian Saiga AK Rifle. Does anybody have any info on it? It appears to be a converted 7.63x39 that they sell for $299 and is being converted by a few folks on here.

http://classicarms.us/semi-auto%20rifles.htm

A lil ways down the page.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww39/henisoomati1/Saiga-Ak.jpg

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1343913&highlight=classic

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1360084&highlight=classic

Decguns
12-01-2011, 22:17
They're converted Saiga's. You can convert one yourself, but you'd spend $450 on the rifle and parts. Might as well let someone else do the work. Since it's at Classic Arms, it was probably converted by Century Arms. They're in the Saiga business now. Classic seems to get most of their guns from Century, Samco or TGI.

22rtf2
12-02-2011, 04:39
They're converted Saiga's. You can convert one yourself, but you'd spend $450 on the rifle and parts. Might as well let someone else do the work. Since it's at Classic Arms, it was probably converted by Century Arms. They're in the Saiga business now. Classic seems to get most of their guns from Century, Samco or TGI.

Thank you. That is what I was thinking, just wondered if anyone knew that they were selling pre- converted.

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USDefender
12-02-2011, 11:04
They're converted Saiga's. You can convert one yourself, but you'd spend $450 on the rifle and parts. Might as well let someone else do the work. Since it's at Classic Arms, it was probably converted by Century Arms. They're in the Saiga business now. Classic seems to get most of their guns from Century, Samco or TGI.


+1 My thinking, exactly. :cool:

My buddy converts Saigas, and the base guns he gets from Classic are usually pretty nice. I would only assume that the gun you'll get will be at least as nice... Although, you'll need to make sure they've included the bullet guide in the conversion - for reliability's sake. If they haven't, you may need to add it yourself.

Having held and examined, both, this type of conversion (with the 'Saiga' furniture) and a version with 'TAPCO' furniture on it, I definitely prefer the TAPCO version... More 'military' looking, and just better looking in general, imho. Even so, from what I've seen, both are pretty good, mechanically speaking.

Regarding 'Classic Arms,' they're a good outfit to do business with and they're honest... The Mosin Nagant I have is from them and it's a nice, 1934 'Hex' example in great condition.

*EDITED to add... Oh, yeah, forgot to mention that these rifles have no provision for a muzzle break/flash suppressor -which is why I don't own one. The muzzle end has a 'cap' that, I believe, is integral with the front sight and that has either been welded on, or else 'glued' (with something like "JB Weld?') on, over the threads, supposedly. Haven't seen what's actually under the 'cap' for myself, I only know you can't put a muzzle device on these guns. This informational 'tid-bit' may or may not be worth the paper it's printed on... ;)

22rtf2
12-02-2011, 11:29
+1 My thinking, exactly. :cool:

My buddy converts Saigas, and the base guns he gets from Classic are usually pretty nice. I would only assume that the gun you'll get will be at least as nice... Although, you'll need to make sure they've included the bullet guide in the conversion - for reliability's sake. If they haven't, you may need to add it yourself.

Having held and examined, both, this type of conversion (with the 'Saiga' furniture) and a version with 'TAPCO' furniture on it, I definitely prefer the TAPCO version... More 'military' looking, and just better looking in general, imho. Even so, from what I've seen, both are pretty good, mechanically speaking.

Regarding 'Classic Arms,' they're a good outfit to do business with and they're honest... The Mosin Nagant I have is from them and it's a nice, 1934 'Hex' example in great condition.

*EDITED to add... Oh, yeah, forgot to mention that these rifles have no provision for a muzzle break/flash suppressor -which is why I don't own one. The muzzle end has a 'cap' that, I believe, is integral with the front sight and that has either been welded on, or else 'glued' (with something like "JB Weld?') on, over the threads, supposedly. Haven't seen what's actually under the 'cap' for myself, I only know you can't put a muzzle device on these guns. This informational 'tid-bit' may or may not be worth the paper it's printed on... ;)

That's the kind of info I wanted, thank you!!:wavey:

toshbar
12-02-2011, 17:07
They're in the Saiga business now. Classic seems to get most of their guns from Century, Samco or TGI.
SAMCRO?


http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/samcro-photo_425x315.jpg


:rofl:

22rtf2
12-02-2011, 18:20
SAMCRO?


http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/samcro-photo_425x315.jpg


:rofl:

So, their rifles are Redwood Original?

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zeme05
12-03-2011, 18:35
I have an early Saiga AK conversion (Y2K) but wanted the military style front end. Not easy to do,remove the FSB and GB, now they are importing Saigas with the front end work already done. Worth a few extra bucks.

buddah
12-06-2011, 07:51
I got one of those converted saiga AK from classic arms a few months ago for $450 OTD.

Spent another $50 to have my smith remove the muzzle cap, thread muzzle and pin/weld a tapco ak74 brake. For $500 I got a russian made AK instead of crappy WASR.

First, trip to range wasn't so great, saiga was single shot rifle. Then I checked the Tapco G2 trigger group and saw that the monkey who did the conversion failed to put the dogleg of left side of trigger spring in correctly. A pair of pliers on my leatherman fixed it in 2 seconds. I have about 500 rds. thru the gun and it's flawless and dead on w/ironsights.

The saiga is TGI import and conversion done by elite custom plating and weapons in the Carolinas. I own a Norinco AK and this saiga is my new favorite gun. Much lighter than my wood furniture Norinco. Norinco now a safe queen and saiga is a shooter. This converted saiga is a great deal. The only deal breaker for me was the naked muzzle. Classic would sell more of these if they added a muzzle brake. I think people wouldn't mind paying alittle xtra.