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Bikerboy
12-01-2011, 21:44
I now carry a G19 gen 3 and shoot 2-3 times a month 150 rds each visit. love my 19 but looking for a smaller more potent pistol,glock of course. I had a G27 Gen 3 and liked it but just looking at a G33 and never shot one. Any feedback on the G33 for CCW besides the ammo expense vs G27?

steve581581
12-01-2011, 21:52
No complaints about mine. Shoots nice and carries better. Get yourself a 27 barrel if you get the 33 so practice isn't so expensive. IMO the .357sig shoots better than the .40s&w.

barth
12-01-2011, 21:56
No complaints about mine. Shoots nice and carries better. Get yourself a 27 barrel if you get the 33 so practice isn't so expensive. IMO the .357sig shoots better than the .40s&w.

+1 on that.
I've got a Talo EXO G27 and factory G33 barrel/mags too.

Don't choose just one.
Choose both! LOL
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TxGlock9
12-01-2011, 21:57
Since you already have experience with the 27 get that first. You can always get the 33 barrel later on. With that said the 357 sig round is my favorite.

Beanie-Bean
12-01-2011, 22:00
I have both, and carry both as part of the CCW rotation, although I do favor the G27.

If you reload, you can also use the .355" bullets for both 9X19 and .357SIG. If you don't reload, then picking up the .40S&W barrel as the others mentioned will let you shoot the less expensive ammo.

The .357 is a nice round and I'm sure you'll like it if you go that route.

Opie 1 Kenopie
12-01-2011, 22:56
G27.
Ammo is just plain ol' easier to find, whether range ammo or SD. The .40S&W is a decent SD round in that little package. Then drop in a G33 barrel for .357 fun. Bam! Problem solved.

"Cold Dead Hands" !
12-01-2011, 23:35
.357 Sig would look cool on the slide.
And it has the most stopping power, shot out of short barreled guns.
More than a .45, .40, or 9mm,.38 etc.
But, with the G27 you can shoot cheaper & plentiful .40's right out of the box.
Then ofcourse get the .357 Sig & 9mm barrels later.

CDW4ME
12-02-2011, 05:25
357 Sig produces comparable KE with less recoil than the 40
357 sig has more blast.

G33 Ranger T 125 gr. @ 1,280 fps / 454# KE / PF 160
G33 Gold Dot 125 gr. @ 1,315 fps / 480# KE / PF 164

G27 Ranger T 165 gr. @ 1,116 fps / 456# KE / PF 184
G27 Gold Dot 155 gr. @ 1,134 fps / 442# KE / PF 175

RYT 2BER
12-02-2011, 05:43
G27

The. 40 is a very versitile round.. 135gr uber fast, up to heavy 180 gr slow and heavy.. with many choices in between.. it is just a 10 mm in a shorter case w less power and less recoil however with tremendous ballistic characteristics.

IMO the 357 sig is more expensive and very loud which isn't desire able at all in an indoor SD shhot. The round also excels at long distance shooting and barrier penetration which is also somewhat antithetical to civilian self defense.

If you're looking to be more "unique " at the local range than go with the 357... if your looking to shoot for less $$ , better ammo availability, versatile load weights, lots of power, and only a "moderately deafening " report vs a "completely deafening " report, than go .40 sw

Vartarg
12-02-2011, 06:13
Not knocking the .357Sig round, but I found that it was more blast and snap than I wanted in that compact package. It's a real handfull.

So my G27 is my EDC. JMHO...YMMV.

vmann
12-02-2011, 08:13
i dont like 357 sig for personal protection, small, fast bullet = over penetration....i dont want to be going through what i am trying to stop, and run the risk of that bullet hitting something else....

"Cold Dead Hands" !
12-02-2011, 08:35
357 Sig produces comparable KE with less recoil than the 40
357 sig has more blast.

G33 Ranger T 125 gr. @ 1,280 fps / 454# KE / PF 160
G33 Gold Dot 125 gr. @ 1,315 fps / 480# KE / PF 164

G27 Ranger T 165 gr. @ 1,116 fps / 456# KE / PF 184
G27 Gold Dot 155 gr. @ 1,134 fps / 442# KE / PF 175

Nice !

Texcowboy
12-02-2011, 08:40
I vote for the G33, to me the recoil is easier to manage and I like the ballistics.

robert101
12-02-2011, 08:44
I carry a G27 gen4. I like the 40 cal. My decision was not 9MM vs 40, BUT, whether to go .40 or 45 cal. I decided on the .40 cal. For me, the little G27 is not to snappy and points well. I've only shot about 300 rounds in mine and it is not my typical range gun. I guess I'm more of a larger caliber believer in that except for my 380 all other sidearms are 40, 44 and 45.

"Cold Dead Hands" !
12-02-2011, 10:25
G27

The. 40 is a very versitile round.. 135gr uber fast, up to heavy 180 gr slow and heavy.. with many choices in between.. it is just a 10 mm in a shorter case w less power and less recoil however with tremendous ballistic characteristics.

IMO the 357 sig is more expensive and very loud which isn't desire able at all in an indoor SD shhot. The round also excels at long distance shooting and barrier penetration which is also so
mewhat antithetical to civilian self defense.

If you're looking to be more "unique " at the local range than go with the 357... if your looking to shoot for less $$ , better ammo availability, versatile load weights, lots of power, and only a "moderately deafening " report vs a "completely deafening " report, than go .40 sw
Yep, and the 135gr. Corbon PowRball's should perform like a .357 Sig.

diamondd2
12-02-2011, 10:37
Glock 27 just for the simple fact that the Glock 33 is not available in Gen 4 yet. Nuff said.

Hear that Glock? You really need to step up your game.

up1911fan
12-02-2011, 10:50
Of the two i'd go with the G33.

thinkfast
12-02-2011, 12:03
G27. With G22/G23 being the industry LE standards, .40 will remain popular & plentiful.

pizza_pablo
12-02-2011, 12:30
I'm fixin' to find out,for myself.
Tonight, I shoot the 32 & 33 barrels, I got for my 23 & 27. :supergrin:
I'm so excited!:pepper:

TxGlock9
12-02-2011, 14:45
I'm fixin' to find out,for myself.
Tonight, I shoot the 32 & 33 barrels, I got for my 23 & 27. :supergrin:
I'm so excited!:pepper:

did you receive your magazines?

pizza_pablo
12-02-2011, 14:51
did you receive your magazines?
YES, YES!
I thought I had PMed you!
Sorry, dude! :embarassed:
Yeah they are great!
All loaded up and ready for tonight!

TxGlock9
12-02-2011, 14:53
YES, YES!
I thought I had PMed you!
Sorry, dude! :embarassed:
Yeah they are great!
All loaded up and ready for tonight!

Haha great man. Nah, I didn't get a message from yah. Hope they are satisfactory. Enjoy those mags nukkaaaaa!

jw38
12-02-2011, 15:23
Stay with the 27. You'll never regret it.

Bikerboy
12-02-2011, 15:32
Thanks all for your great feedback and replies!! I'm leaning to the G33,I can get ammo no prob. It will be CCW and 19 for the range. But I really shot my old 27 well and parted with it awhlie back,so it may come into play once again. Nothing like the wind in your face said the biker to his dog!!:supergrin: I always wanted a .357 sig,my son would love it when I pass my glocks to him. he swears by his G23. I heard that the texas rangers swapped out their .45's for the 357sig. their spokesperson stated that a hit with the .357Sig rd puts em down for good:wow:

TxGlock9
12-02-2011, 16:55
Thanks all for your great feedback and replies!! I'm leaning to the G33,I can get ammo no prob. It will be CCW and 19 for the range. But I really shot my old 27 well and parted with it awhlie back,so it may come into play once again. Nothing like the wind in your face said the biker to his dog!!:supergrin: I always wanted a .357 sig,my son would love it when I pass my glocks to him. he swears by his G23. I heard that the texas rangers swapped out their .45's for the 357sig. their spokesperson stated that a hit with the .357Sig rd puts em down for good:wow:

357 sig is also used by the Department of Transportation Troopers here in Texas. They use the P229/226...

dkf
12-02-2011, 17:47
i dont like 357 sig for personal protection, small, fast bullet = over penetration....i dont want to be going through what i am trying to stop, and run the risk of that bullet hitting something else....

I suggest you do some research on the subject. You will find your assumption is flawed.

Yep, and the 135gr. Corbon PowRball's should perform like a .357 Sig.

Not even close.

I now carry a G19 gen 3 and shoot 2-3 times a month 150 rds each visit. love my 19 but looking for a smaller more potent pistol,glock of course. I had a G27 Gen 3 and liked it but just looking at a G33 and never shot one. Any feedback on the G33 for CCW besides the ammo expense vs G27?

I like my G32 and G33. Have the .40 barrel also. IMO neither are hard to control with the .357sig round at least for me. The .357sig round is loud but not as loud as a .357mag. The local factory ammo is expensive and can be scarce though. The .40 ammo is better priced and carried by more shops. If you are already setup to reload 9mm the .357sig is nice because if you buy the right bullets you can load 9mm and .357sig with the same bullets.

Would be nice if you could shoot a G33 to decide. Anyway you could just buy a G27 and always get a .357sig barrel down the road if you want to try the round. The G27 is easier to find in local shops than the G33.

"Cold Dead Hands" !
12-02-2011, 19:10
I'm fixin' to find out,for myself.
Tonight, I shoot the 32 & 33 barrels, I got for my 23 & 27. :supergrin:
I'm so excited!:pepper:

Cool, we expect a full range report !
Is your G23 a Gen4, if so it will have a dual recoil spring.
Either way, which handles the recoil better Your G27 or G23 with?

Quentin
12-02-2011, 19:53
G27

The. 40 is a very versitile round.. 135gr uber fast, up to heavy 180 gr slow and heavy.. with many choices in between.. it is just a 10 mm in a shorter case w less power and less recoil however with tremendous ballistic characteristics.

IMO the 357 sig is more expensive and very loud which isn't desire able at all in an indoor SD shhot. The round also excels at long distance shooting and barrier penetration which is also somewhat antithetical to civilian self defense.

If you're looking to be more "unique " at the local range than go with the 357... if your looking to shoot for less $$ , better ammo availability, versatile load weights, lots of power, and only a "moderately deafening " report vs a "completely deafening " report, than go .40 sw

Very well said, I couldn't agree more ... which is why I have the G22, G23 and G27!

TxGlock9
12-02-2011, 20:47
IMO the 357 sig is more expensive and very loud which isn't desire able at all in an indoor SD shhot.Expensive I can understand but Not a preferred caliber because it's loud? :rofl:


The round also excels at long distance shooting and barrier penetration which is also somewhat antithetical to civilian self defense.
So it does excels in longer distances and also has superior barrier penetration due to it's muzzle velocity and that antithetical to personal defense?

If you're talking about over penetration then I assure you with quality hollow point ammunition that is least of your worry.

Chowser
12-02-2011, 20:52
Here's a short story on no over penetration. Full size Glock 31 with Winchester Ranger ammo vs. small headed deer. From less than 1 foot away, one shot to head. Bullet never came out. Deer died quickly. Flopped over and stopped all movement.

pizza_pablo
12-02-2011, 22:47
Cool, we expect a full range report !
Is your G23 a Gen4, if so it will have a dual recoil spring.
Either way, which handles the recoil better Your G27 or G23 with?

My Glocks are Gen 3.
Tonight, I shot 9mm, .40 & 357SIG, with my 23 & 27.
What a blast!
My impression is that the 357sig flips less than .40.
With the 357sig and the 27 I could actually feel the slide rocking back. It was something that I have not experienced with the .40. I definitely felt the power of the 357sig round.
It was not as loud as I expected after reading so many comments about that.
Me thinks me really likes it! :supergrin:
My accuracy with 357sig was about the same as .40. Maybe a little better, since it was my first time out with that round. I'm not sure what else to say.

On a side note... I moved the GAP floor plates from the 27 to the 33 mags. The 27 was definitely more difficult to hang on to w/o the GAPs. I knew I liked them, but now I treasure them!

silvrevo
12-02-2011, 23:36
Glock 27 just for the simple fact that the Glock 33 is not available in Gen 4 yet. Nuff said.

Hear that Glock? You really need to step up your game.

Yepppp

Bikerboy
12-03-2011, 06:53
G33 sounds like fun! I'm thinking for EDC it will be a solid shooter for sure. i can pick one up locally in 90% condition w/3 mags for $375.00-$400.00. Soon to be purchased,hopefully my xmas present to myself:supergrin: Thanks all:wavey:

TriggerHappy007
12-03-2011, 08:48
I was thinking the exact same thing between a G33 and a G27. I have opted for the Gen 4 G27 to become my CCW and handing my G26 over to the wife for CCW to replace her SW642.

Deaf Smith
12-03-2011, 17:40
Biker,

I have the 26, 27, AND 33. All three have night sights and NY1/3.5 lb connectors (to give you a 8 lb strait pull with no stacking.)

They are all EXCELLENT!

Anyone of them will do fine.

My 33 chronos CCI-Speer 125gr Gold Dot ammo at 1310 average (and Corbon 125 JHP .357 Sig at 1360!)

The .40 S&W Glock 27 gets Speer Gold Dot 180 at 980 fps and Speer Gold Dot 155 grain at 1100 fps.

And my Glock 26 in 9mm gets Winchester +p+ 127s at 1240 fps on the average.

Yes the 33 and 27 kick a bit more but not a huge amount.

Any one of them will serve you well.

Nice thing is you can get a Glock 27 and then buy a Glock 33 barrel and it drops right in (same mags work for both.) And vice-versa works. Glock 27 barrel works in a Glock 33!)

and Lone Wolf makes a 9mm barrel just for the 27/33 and your Glock becomes a 9mm/.357 Sig/.40 S&W (but you will need Glock 26 9mm mags for the 9mm!)

Deaf