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IhRedrider
12-02-2011, 21:48
Like the title says. Which shotgun do you prefer, if you could only have one?

Please include a brief explanation why.

cyphertext
12-02-2011, 22:47
If I am limited to one, I'm going to go with my Remington 870. Many different barrels available to suit whatever your needs. Since I have 2 of them already, I have two barrels, a 28" barrel with Rem chokes for hunting and a 18.5" barrel for HD.

officerjohnson
12-02-2011, 23:00
Mossberg or Remington, I could use either one and be perfectly happy. Handle them both and pick the one that feels better to you.

I like that you can get a parkerized Mossberg cheaper than a parkerized Remington. You get more for your money with the Mossbergs, that not to say that they are any better

Aceman
12-03-2011, 06:25
Mossberg 535 with 4 barrels:
18 1/2 cylinder
20 choked turkey
24 rifled
28 inch vent rib w/ choke

F106 Fan
12-03-2011, 09:52
For what purpose can I only have 1 shotgun? Trap, skeet, sporting clays, quail, ducks or are we talking self defense? Are interchangeable barrels part of the question?

In terms of self defense, there's a lot to be said for the Remington 870. But I still prefer my Benelli M4.

The M4 seems to eat anything including light target loads and there is no concern for short-stroking under stress. It just lays down an awesome amount of fire power. Interrupted strings of fire, like inserting a slug in the middle of firing 00 buck, is trivial with the M4. It isn't necessarily a problem with the 870 but it is easier with the M4.

Richard

IhRedrider
12-03-2011, 12:35
It looks like the pumps are first choice so far. Any more auto supporters out there?

Bullman
12-03-2011, 13:12
I am a Mossberg man just for the control locations, I prefer the thumb safety on the location of the action release on the Mossberg. The Remingtons are outstanding shotguns also and if the control locations there are what you get used to initially then the 870 or 1187 will make you a fine shotgun.

ArmoryDoc
12-03-2011, 14:59
Remington 870. Multiple role capacity, durable, reliable, easy to work on, parts availability.

https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/QjQ0N0Q3MzA5MUM5NkVCRTNCMDc6NTJmZjY1OWVhMGQ5MDAxN2IzYzViMjU5YTBmMzNhODg=?uid=43b2f88c-68fa-4c93-931f-1e5030700066

Nestor
12-03-2011, 18:23
While 870 is the golden standard I'm finding the controls location a bit problematic at times. I have a really cool M37 Ithaca Defender with 20" barrel and 7 shot capacity. It's a bit too long though and controls are located exactly in the same spots as on 870. Nothing big and I may actually order 870P soon, but certainly for me, more natural location for the slide release would be behind the trigger guard. For this reason I'm going to give a try to this shotgun soon. If I will like it, there will be no need to order 870P. :wavey:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/18980.jpg

azbuckeye
12-03-2011, 18:50
Remington 870 for me....I've owned several during my lifetime and have never had an issue, or failure with any of them.

hawkes31
12-03-2011, 18:56
Rem 1100 mag

Nutt51
12-03-2011, 19:28
870 all the way.
Proven track record, reliable, more aftermarket parts and customize
options out there than any other shotgun.

Some other very good shotguns out there to choose from, but
I'll stick with my 870's. Hunting, Police/Military, or Home Defense,
there's an 870 to do the job.

PlasticGuy
12-03-2011, 19:41
I would be happy with either my Vang Comp 590a1 or my Benelli M4. Both are exceptional.

mixflip
12-03-2011, 19:52
Mossberg. (500 or 590 will do) 50 years of reliability. Battlefield proven with the USMC. Dual extractors, ambi safety button, slide release behind the trigger guard, shell elevator is NOT spring loaded and retracts into the receiver when loading ammo.

Is it the best? No. But then again no "one" shotgun is the best for every person and every task.

Here is my plane jane 500. Paid $150 used
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/mossberg_500_old.jpg

K.Kiser
12-03-2011, 20:10
I'm officially a broken record at this point but I always gravitate back to a Rem 870, Winchester 1300, and a Browning BPS... I have shot a Beretta auto tactical shotgun before, and it was a lovely experience...

vafish
12-04-2011, 08:00
Mossberg. (500 or 590 will do) 50 years of reliability. Battlefield proven with the USMC. Dual extractors, ambi safety button, slide release behind the trigger guard, shell elevator is NOT spring loaded and retracts into the receiver when loading ammo.

Is it the best? No. But then again no "one" shotgun is the best for every person and every task.

Here is my plane jane 500. Paid $150 used
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/mossberg_500_old.jpg

I'd go Mossberg 500 as well.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n75/vafish/Guns/08220004.jpg

Although I also own an 870 and would be happy with that as well.

K.Kiser
12-04-2011, 08:36
The Mossberg's pictured above is just how I like a Defense shotgun... All business with no curb feelers, fender flares, etc... Although I would like to add a light on mine..

F106 Fan
12-04-2011, 09:59
So, here we are with no more consensus than the last time this was discussed (about a week ago). We run the gamut from a $150 used Mossberg to a $1500 new Benelli with a bunch of 870s in the middle.

All will work for self defense; take your pick.

Richard

denn1911
12-04-2011, 19:53
For a pump, the Rem. 870 gets my vote. For an auto, Benelli gets my vote. Reliability, ease of operation, accuracy and parts availability are some of the reasons that I would go with them.

Bowtie
12-04-2011, 21:28
930 SPX. It eats everything I feed it from heavy to light loads, Very soft shooter, very fast and has never had any sort of malfunction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PQK3t2I1M

Thats not me!

IhRedrider
12-05-2011, 16:49
Thanks for the responses.

jp 19
12-05-2011, 19:21
I started life with an 870...
then down the road I purchased nice ok very nice mossberg 590 A1 ..hated it. I would not trash it or put it down it was really nice... but it just wasn't an 870. this may sound weird but I like the rounded bolt on the 870 and hate the flat bolts on most other shotguns... go figure!


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Jasestrong
12-28-2011, 08:33
I like Rems and Moss, great bang for your buck. Rems are a little smoother, my 870 wingmaster is buttery smooth but i hate the safety location on the Remington, being a lefty i looked like Jimmy Hendrix trying to get the safety off while Quail hunting . I carried both as a LEO, i own a 870 and a 590A1. But if i had to make a choice i would get the Mossberg.

Roddy
12-28-2011, 14:09
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/18980.jpg

Nestor what shotgun is that exactly, if you don't mind me asking? Is it avalible new with the wood like that? Looks really nice. I want a Wingmaster with that furniture, bluing, and mag tube setup but I can't find one.

My choice for just one shotgun would be an 870 because I am already very familiar with it, there are a ton of parts and accessories avalible for it including barrels and chokes, and mine has never let me down.

cj5mrt
12-28-2011, 14:59
870 all the way.
Proven track record, reliable, more aftermarket parts and customize
options out there than any other shotgun.

Some other very good shotguns out there to choose from, but
I'll stick with my 870's. Hunting, Police/Military, or Home Defense,
there's an 870 to do the job.

^^^^ This

Nestor
12-28-2011, 15:51
Nestor what shotgun is that exactly, if you don't mind me asking? Is it avalible new with the wood like that? Looks really nice. I want a Wingmaster with that furniture, bluing, and mag tube setup but I can't find one.

My choice for just one shotgun would be an 870 because I am already very familiar with it, there are a ton of parts and accessories avalible for it including barrels and chokes, and mine has never let me down.

It's Winchester 1300 Defender - no longer in production. Winchester currently is selling the similar model, but with the plastic furniture and it's called SXP Defender I believe. I went with 870 BTW - older Wingmaster made in the '70s. Currently working on it. You just can't beat the versatility of 870. It's first ever project gun for me. Details here:
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1388945

Bullman
12-28-2011, 16:31
I still kind like the looks of that Ithaca 37 defense you were showing around Adam, it was a sweet looking trombone gun if you ask me.

BlackPaladin
12-28-2011, 16:33
Mossberg 500 hands down

I own with extensive use:
Benelli SNT
Win 1300
Remington 870

The Mossberg is light, smooth, holds 5+1 in a standard non extended mag tube, easy to use controls, easy to work on.

Nestor
12-28-2011, 17:17
I still kind like the looks of that Ithaca 37 defense you were showing around Adam, it was a sweet looking trombone gun if you ask me.

Thanks, I still have it :)
Well, for now at least.
Zombie gun, but it may be difficult to get the spare parts if Ithaca will go out of business. Especially here.

Buffering
12-28-2011, 17:19
... but it may be difficult to get the spare parts if Ithaca will go out of business. Especially here.

Unless you can get some Mossberg manufactured replacement parts.

:tongueout:

The dupek in me made me say that.

Quigley
12-28-2011, 17:24
Enough said!
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz360/lukedrylie/S6301491.jpg

Nestor
12-28-2011, 17:27
Unless you can get some Mossberg manufactured replacement parts.

:tongueout:

The dupek in me made me say that.

That would work for me I guess.

Blast
12-30-2011, 23:19
Remington 870. Next choice Mossberg 500.

docwade
12-31-2011, 08:56
I've had a few different shotguns. I still like my modded saiga 12's.

byf43
01-06-2012, 08:36
Remington 870. Multiple role capacity, durable, reliable, easy to work on, parts availability.

https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/QjQ0N0Q3MzA5MUM5NkVCRTNCMDc6NTJmZjY1OWVhMGQ5MDAxN2IzYzViMjU5YTBmMzNhODg=?uid=43b2f88c-68fa-4c93-931f-1e5030700066

:wow:
THAT is some beautiful lumber!!!!
:wow:

byf43
01-06-2012, 08:39
Only ONE shotgun???

Remington 870. (Prefer the Wingmaster.)
I've got several 870s and quite a few barrels (including multiples!), from 18-1/2" IC; 20" cyl.; 21" rifled; 26" Remchoke.

ArmoryDoc
01-06-2012, 08:41
Well thank you. :) Here's a pic of it after I have gotten all the finish applied. Plastic's got nothin' on this. :wavey:

https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/QjQ0N0Q3MzA5MUM5NkVCRTNCMDc6NzQ0YTFhNjExYjI5MDYzMDBkZTk1MDQ3ZjZjZGYxOGE=?uid=5360070b-0fdb-4690-a67b-3903face570d

byf43
01-06-2012, 08:52
Well thank you. :) Here's a pic of it after I have gotten all the finish applied. Plastic's got nothin' on this. :wavey:

https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/QjQ0N0Q3MzA5MUM5NkVCRTNCMDc6NzQ0YTFhNjExYjI5MDYzMDBkZTk1MDQ3ZjZjZGYxOGE=?uid=5360070b-0fdb-4690-a67b-3903face570d

:wow::faint::wow:
Gorgeous!!

Nestor
01-06-2012, 12:56
Well thank you. :) Here's a pic of it after I have gotten all the finish applied. Plastic's got nothin' on this. :wavey:

https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/QjQ0N0Q3MzA5MUM5NkVCRTNCMDc6NzQ0YTFhNjExYjI5MDYzMDBkZTk1MDQ3ZjZjZGYxOGE=?uid=5360070b-0fdb-4690-a67b-3903face570d

What kind of finish is this?

ArmoryDoc
01-06-2012, 16:23
About a dozen hand-rubbed coats of Boiled Linseed Oil dried for several weeks then coated with Minwax "Wipe-On Poly" polyurethane finish.

Denied
01-06-2012, 16:35
I am a retired LEO, the most neglected and abused weapon is the cruiser shotgun. It stays in the car, seldom get cleaned, have been found with cigarette butts down the barrel. I personally have tossed one cross a fence into a mud puddle (unintended). The 870, like the energizer commercial took a licking and kept on ticking. Many look better but none are more rugged, which is what I want when the stuff get runny.

Nestor
01-06-2012, 17:38
About a dozen hand-rubbed coats of Boiled Linseed Oil dried for several weeks then coated with Minwax "Wipe-On Poly" polyurethane finish.

Thanks.

packsaddle
01-07-2012, 21:56
Can't go wrong with any of the shotguns already mentioned.

I prefer my short coach gun just the same.

Bad guy is staring down two barrels instead of one.

Tango 1Zero
01-07-2012, 22:00
Mossberg 500.
Have had the Remington 870 and prefer the Mossberg loading better to the Rem.

hogship
01-07-2012, 22:11
I've had a Winchester Defender, Mossberg 590, and currently a Remington 870 Police Magnum. I can say that any of these three are excellent shotguns for SD. Sometimes, these decisions are a matter of timing, and what comes along at the right time for the purchase to be made.

Modifications: 6 rd sidesaddle, sling, Wingmaster forearm altered to fit the sidesaddle, rifle sights, 18" cylinder bore barrel, oversized safety.

ooc

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1401653/393625686.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1401653/393625687.jpg

Restless28
01-08-2012, 06:26
I have an old Winchester Defender, but I would like to have one of AIP's 870s.

Patriot III
01-20-2012, 22:36
I've been happy with my Winchester. It's light and reliable.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/TedG954/WIN1300DEFcopy-1-1.jpg

CLee0507
01-21-2012, 00:35
I like 870's and 500's. They are equal to me in terms of a "good all around shotgun", but if I HAD to choose only one, it would be the 870. It's got a more heavy duty feeling.

White7
01-21-2012, 09:18
mossberg 500.
Have had the remington 870 and prefer the mossberg loading better to the rem.

x1000

Nothing like getting a finger or thumb gouged by an 870 lifter trying to load a shell

Bullman
01-21-2012, 10:03
x1000

Nothing like getting a finger or thumb gouged by an 870 lifter trying to load a shell

You speak the truth.

frankr
01-21-2012, 11:49
My Mossberg 930 SPX.

rkrk
01-22-2012, 20:41
the position of the safety made the decision for me. I own a Remington as well but prefer the controls on the Mossberg.

rkrk

Ferdinandd
01-22-2012, 21:10
I like them both, but the controls of the 870 work better with a PG shoulder stock, which I very much prefer due to handling and retention capability.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/Ferdinandd/DSC01748.jpg

Louisville Glocker
01-22-2012, 22:26
I'll choose a Saiga 12 any day. High reliability from its AK47 platform, and truly a combat shotgun. Slap in a magazine (capacity 10) filled with buckshot or slugs, and you've got a semi-auto beast ready to roll.

GWG19
01-29-2012, 20:48
Just one shotgun, it would have to a Benelli for me. If its a pump then the Nova or Super Nova. Auto the the M1.

Nestor
01-30-2012, 05:39
I like them both, but the controls of the 870 work better with a PG shoulder stock, which I very much prefer due to handling and retention capability.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/Ferdinandd/DSC01748.jpg

That's interesting. You are actually in much worse position in terms of weapon retention with the pistol grip.

jp 19
01-30-2012, 06:39
That's interesting. You are actually in much worse position in terms of weapon retention with the pistol grip.

six of one half dozen of the other..


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Nestor
01-30-2012, 07:56
six of one half dozen of the other..


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Except for leverage on your end.

Bullman
01-30-2012, 11:47
I have heard that said before but I am not sure I actually understand it. I might have to check out you tube to see if there is a video of it, but I just can't feature one being better than the other, and not sure why one would be worse. If that makes any sense.

Nestor
01-30-2012, 15:14
I have heard that said before but I am not sure I actually understand it. I might have to check out you tube to see if there is a video of it, but I just can't feature one being better than the other, and not sure why one would be worse. If that makes any sense.

You may want to check "StressFire Vol. 2" by Massad Ayoob. I think that he explained that pretty well.

Bullman
01-30-2012, 16:14
You may want to check "StressFire Vol. 2" by Massad Ayoob. I think that he explained that pretty well.

Now that I think about it a little bit in a situation where you were going hand to hand and using the butt to give someone a "nudge" it would be much more better without the pistol grip in that instance.

Nestor
01-30-2012, 17:09
Now that I think about it a little bit in a situation where you were going hand to hand and using the butt to give someone a "nudge" it would be much more better without the pistol grip in that instance.

The biggest problem with the PG is that your hand is locked between the grip and stock if the BG is holding the other end of your shotgun. You either have to let it go or have your fingers ripped out of the socket. More details with the pictures are in the above mentioned book. Regular stock is much safer choice.

NH Trucker
02-02-2012, 20:09
Of the few I have, I'd go with my Saiga 12.

It's semi auto, chambered for 3", 19 inch barrel, can hold up to 20 rounds for defense, quick reloads with additional magazines/drums, as simple to operate as an AK47, and so far is as reliable as one. Just a change of recoil spring for the low brass target loads.

Rustin
02-03-2012, 10:21
Hmmm..... How about the AA-12? :dunno: No I probably couldn't aquire a fully automatic shot rocker. Make mine an 870 wingmaster.

dscottw88
02-03-2012, 17:09
The market for the 870 is like the market for the AR, there are a lot of accessories and parts for it out there. It's proven itself well.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/m4dscottw88/2012-02-03_15-47-39_937.jpg

22highcaps
02-03-2012, 18:04
870 due to the steel receiver and safety location working much better with a pistol gripped stock than that of a Mossberg. I prefer it over the Super Nova due the less expensive barrels and availability of Surefire forends.

days84
02-07-2012, 09:29
My new Ohio made 37 Defense. Best SG I've bought in a long time.

Phoenix_400
02-08-2012, 19:45
I've developed a bit of a High Standard fetish over the years. Never come across a smoother rackin' shotty. Its my go-to shotgun, snag up any 18-7 I find. My beadsight model (the bare metal trigger guard) is my HD gun.

Barring that, I reckon I'd take a mossberg 590. Like the control layout and the lack of that lifter when loading. Or as I've heard it said before, High Standard=The gun Mossberg wanted to be.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l86/Phoenix_400/329847_10151092628490114_501725113_21987916_1855414963_o.jpg

NOTE: Before anyone asks. the O/U is legal. 3/4" above legal, but legal and purchased from an FFL nonetheless. Interesting supposed history but no paperwork to back it (though I was promised it at time of purchase:rant:). Never shot it, nor do I really intend to.

never enough
02-08-2012, 21:22
Saiga 12!

mingaa
02-08-2012, 21:29
Mossberg 930 24" turkey as an all around solid performer. Smooth action. Tapped for rail. Mag extension options easy + affordable. Shoots 3". 935 shoots 3.5" = overkill IMHO. Big bang for the buck AND I love semi auto across the board.

RMTactical
02-08-2012, 21:40
Remington 870.

It is proven and ubiquitous. I personally like it and have used it more than any other shotgun.

CJStudent
02-12-2012, 10:34
I own both a Mossberg 500A (28" bbl) and a Remington 870 (18.5" bbl, extended magazine tube). If I could only have one, though, I'd have to go with the 870. It's what I use at work, and what I've trained the most on.

pmwglock19
02-12-2012, 14:30
When it was time to buy a shotgun, I looked at what would work for me and what my finances were at the time. I ended up buying a Mossberg 500 persuader 12 gauge. It is my hd and 3 gun shotgun. Never had a problem with it and would consider taking it as my shtf weapon depending on circumstances.

gunslinger3
03-09-2012, 11:09
Is there an advantage to Synthetic over wood?

Bullman
03-09-2012, 13:28
You don't cry as much when a sythetic stock gets scratched up.

HPD840
03-09-2012, 13:29
Remington 870P ! Of course!