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J_P
12-04-2011, 22:03
Whats up guys, I just picked up my first .45 and I am looking to purchase some self defence loads. I've done my research and have made of my mind on what brand I am going to purchace Speer Gold Dots (same brand for my 9mm), not sure what bullet weight I want yet.... still deciding. Ive seen +p load for .45acp and I was wondering if this is necessary for a good .45 defence load. I also wanted to ask what JHP loads you more experienced .45acp guys are useing.

DustyJacket
12-05-2011, 02:23
Mostly, I use a 200gr Lead semi-wadcutter.

Accurate as heck. Low recoil. Cuts pretty holes in paper and nasty tearing holes in 'tissue'.

Edmo01
12-05-2011, 07:16
Whats up guys, I just picked up my first .45 and I am looking to purchase some self defence loads. I've done my research and have made of my mind on what brand I am going to purchace Speer Gold Dots (same brand for my 9mm), not sure what bullet weight I want yet.... still deciding. Ive seen +p load for .45acp and I was wondering if this is necessary for a good .45 defence load. I also wanted to ask what JHP loads you more experienced .45acp guys are useing.

I would recommend standard pressure 230 grain Speer Gold Dots. After you choose your ammo, function check it in your pistol.

Edmo

JBL13
12-05-2011, 07:26
I would recommend standard pressure 230 grain Speer Gold Dots. After you choose your ammo, function check it in your pistol.

Edmo

This is what I use in my G21SF.

Manimal
12-05-2011, 07:30
Not to hijack OP's thread but where is the best place to buy the 230 grain Gold Dots, I am having a hard time finding them?

eclark53520
12-05-2011, 07:39
My Gander Mountain has them...


I also use 230gr Speer Gold Dot's.

cowboy1964
12-05-2011, 08:41
http://www.sgammo.com/product/speer/50rds-45-auto-acp-speer-gold-dot-230-grain-hollow-point-ammo-53966

Zombie Steve
12-05-2011, 09:12
Mostly, I use a 200gr Lead semi-wadcutter.

Accurate as heck. Low recoil. Cuts pretty holes in paper and nasty tearing holes in 'tissue'.

Great bullet, but you just aren't going to have success shooting them out of Glocks (not sure what you shoot). I shoot a heck of a lot of 230 lead truncated cone boolits I cast in the garage. Good penetration, and a little more smack to it than round nose.

fredj338
12-05-2011, 09:50
Just about any std pressure 200-230grJHP form a major manuf is going to work in the 45acp. The better loads start w/ the Speer GD, HST, RangerT, Rem RGS. Little is gained by +P loads in the 45 but add'l. recoil IMO.

Little Joe
12-05-2011, 13:24
Not to hijack OP's thread but where is the best place to buy the 230 grain Gold Dots, I am having a hard time finding them?

http://mahsupplies.net/

MN-glock27
12-05-2011, 15:25
I use the 200gr +P Gold Dots in my .45.

JK-linux
12-05-2011, 15:57
I have 3 boxes left of Doublte Tap 200gr +P GD from about 2008. Very hot IMHO. I also have a ton of 230gr Speer GD as well. The DT GD is a bit "spicy" out of my G30, so I generally keep the Speer 230 gr GD in it. The 1911 always has 200gr +P DT GD in it, and doesn't feel recoil heavy in the least. I do hear that the DT ammo is running a bit cooler these days, so I'm not sure if that makes it hotter or cooler than Speer 200gr GD? Try them all and shoot what feels right.

chasbo00
12-05-2011, 16:28
Below is a good list to choose from. Check out the link too - lots of good information that's not just opinion.

.45ACP

Barnes XPB/TAC-XP 185gr HP loaded by:
Cor-Bon (DPX45185)
Taurus (TCB45ACP185HP)
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP (RA45T)
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP)
Federal Tactical 230gr JHP (LE45T1)
Federal HST 230gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
Federal HST 230gr JHP (P45HST2)
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP (23966)

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm#.45ACP

RWBlue
12-05-2011, 17:16
Based on all the testing, I suggest finding a premium brand that you shoot well in your Gun. They are all trying to do the FBI test.

I would suggest going bonded, but I didn't and I am not concerned. I went with Federal HST 230gr +P JHP (P45HST1). I bought enough of it that I don't expect to be buying self defense ammo for 10-20 years.

collim1
12-05-2011, 17:31
Not to hijack OP's thread but where is the best place to buy the 230 grain Gold Dots, I am having a hard time finding them?

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com

Usually has them in 50rd boxes for a decent price. I hate to pay shipping, but if you dont have a shop that sells 50rd boxes its your best bet.

If they dont have them today, check back in a day or two. Their inventory changes daily.

Glockdude1
12-05-2011, 17:44
RA45B Winchester Ranger .45 Bonded 230 gr.

:thumbsup:

J_P
12-05-2011, 18:44
Thanks for the replys guys it was very helpful

K.Kiser
12-05-2011, 19:19
For what it's worth I'd probabaly shoot 230 gold dots, but I wouldn't turn down anything I could shoot well barring the lighter loads under 200 grains... Shot placement and follow up shot ability is what will bring you home safely...

DustyJacket
12-05-2011, 21:23
Great bullet, but you just aren't going to have success shooting them out of Glocks (not sure what you shoot). I shoot a heck of a lot of 230 lead truncated cone boolits I cast in the garage. Good penetration, and a little more smack to it than round nose.
Not a Glock.
Wilson Combat 4" M1911

And my big ol' M625 revolver.....

Zombie Steve
12-05-2011, 21:46
Not a Glock.
Wilson Combat 4" M1911

And my big ol' M625 revolver.....

LSWC's and 1911's are like peas and carrots. :thumbsup:

10-S
12-06-2011, 12:50
I use the 200gr +P Gold Dots in my .45.


+1. G30SF with G21 spare mag, all with GD 200g +p.

Bigpoppie50
12-06-2011, 14:34
In my 45 I load Federal 230grain +P HST.

CPatt44
12-06-2011, 21:49
Winchester Ranger T 230gr


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barth
12-06-2011, 22:14
I'm getting ready for a high tech ammo shootout for my P220 myself - LOL!

Have boxes of;
CorBon JHP 185 gr +P
Speer GDHP 185 gr
Speer GDHP 200 gr +P
Winchester Ranger T-Series 230 gr
Winchester Ranger T-Series 230 gr +P

Any of them would be fine.
But what does the combination of me and my gun like the best?
I'm going to find out - LOL!

This data is a little old but still interesting.
FBI Protocol Testing:
45ACP Rem G.S. |185@1037, 27.4 mv, 441 E|BR 14.4", 0.72", 5.86cu|CL 15.9", 0.68", 5.79cu|avg 5.83, 6.21 re, 0.94
45ACP Rem G.S. +P |185@1046, 27.6 mv, 449 E|BR 10.1", 0.87", 6.00cu|CL 9.5", 0.81", 4.90cu|avg 5.45, 6.32 re, 0.86
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |185@ 874, 23.1 mv, 313 E|BR 11.7", 0.74", 5.03cu|CL 19.8", 0.61", 5.79cu|avg 5.41, 4.41 re, 1.23
45ACP Win Silvertip |185@ 951, 25.1 mv, 371 E|BR 10.7", 0.78", 5.11cu|CL 10.9", 0.73", 4.56cu|avg 4.84, 5.22 re, 0.93
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |185@ 953, 25.2 mv, 373 E|BR 13.3", 0.63", 4.15cu|CL 12.4", 0.74", 5.33cu|avg 4.74, 5.24 re, 0.90
45ACP Rem |185@ 903, 23.9 mv, 335 E|BR 16.2", 0.70", 6.23cu|CL 24.6", 0.55", 5.83cu|avg 5.49, 4.71 re, 1.17
45ACP CCI/Speer GD +P |200@1062, 30.3 mv, 500 E|BR 11.7", 0.75", 5.17cu|CL 18.8", 0.55", 4.47cu|avg 4.82, 7.61 re, 0.63
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 956, 31.4 mv, 466 E|BR 13.8", 0.72", 5.64cu|CL 13.6", 0.74", 5.83cu|avg 5.73, 8.16 re, 0.70
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 878, 28.8 mv, 393 E|BR 16.6", 0.66", 5.66cu|CL 20.2", 0.55", 4.80cu|avg 5.21, 6.88 re, 0.76
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 858, 28.2 mv, 375 E|BR 13.7", 0.71", 5.42cu|CL 16.4", 0.66", 5.59cu|avg 5.51, 6.57 re, 0.84
45ACP Win |230@ 802, 26.4 mv, 328 E|BR 17.9", 0.60", 5.06cu|CL 24.0", 0.51", 4.90cu|avg 4.57, 5.74 re, 0.80
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 854, 28.1 mv, 372 E|BR 14.9", 0.71", 5.90cu|CL 15.4", 0.64", 4.97cu|avg 5.43, 6.51 re, 0.83
45ACP Rem G.S. |230@ 885, 29.1 mv, 399 E|BR 14.1", 0.76", 6.37cu|CL 16.6", 0.69", 6.19cu|avg 6.28, 6.99 re, 0.90
45ACP Win Ranger SXT |230@ 819, 26.9 mv, 342 E|BR 13.2", 0.73", 5.55cu|CL 17.9", 0.63", 5.56cu|avg 5.55, 5.99 re, 0.93
45ACP CCI/Speer GD |230@ 896, 29.4 mv, 409 E|BR 16.0", 0.69", 5.98cu|CL 18.9", 0.59", 5.17cu|avg 5.58, 7.17 re, 0.78
45ACP PMC/Eldorado SF |230@ 853, 28.0 mv, 371 E|BR 13.9", 0.67", 4.90cu|CL 22.6", 0.45", 3.59cu|avg 4.04, 6.49 re, 0.62
45ACP Rem G.S. |230@ 871, 28.6 mv, 387 E|BR 15.0", 0.71", 5.94cu|CL 18.9", 0.73", 7.89cu|avg 6.91, 6.77 re, 1.02
45ACP CCI/Speer GD |230@ 847, 27.8 mv, 366 E|BR 13.2", 0.74", 5.66cu|CL 14.3", 0.70", 5.50cu|avg 5.58, 6.40 re, 0.87
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |230@ 860, 28.3 mv, 377 E|BR 13.8", 0.80", 6.96cu|CL 17.4", 0.67", 6.13cu|avg 6.55, 6.60 re, 0.99
45ACP Win. B.T. |230@ 886, 29.1 mv, 400 E|BR 11.9", 0.77", 5.56cu|CL 13.9", 0.74", 6.00cu|avg 5.78, 7.01 re, 0.83

Spiffums
12-07-2011, 20:10
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP (RA45T)
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP)

I run these in my HK.

glock2740
12-08-2011, 20:54
I use the 200gr +P Gold Dots in my .45.
Same here.