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Rabbi
12-06-2011, 14:51
I am not quite sure why but I find these people so very amusing.

Tell your stories about wannabes/whackers/holster sniffers/mall ninjas...please.

Mayhem like Me
12-06-2011, 15:10
Local Whacker, just saw him after his 6 month tour of Afghanistan (never happened) and he wanted to sell me his M4 because he took too many lives with it...

So I had to play and said your "personal" M4 and no he said he was given his Issued M4 by his commander and it was OK because it was just a 3 round burst..Now since he has never even been in the service I asked if Captain Kangaroo gave it to him and Said ... YOU DON'T HAVE A REAL M4 STOP LYING TO ME IF YOU COME UP WITH THIS BULL**** AGAIN I WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE CHARGED, SO TAKE YOUR MADE UP STORIES BACK TO YOUR ONLINE GAMING BUDDIES...

This was in earshot of 30 or so people so he slunk back to his whacker mobile (Lifted F350 with Cowboy up across the back window and a ranger tab on the window below it.)
And left..

Fast forward 2 weeks I see him outside a bar in a Marine Multicam uniform with his scgragly beard and cover and SSgt insignia along with Ranger tab, he is backing up 4 gentlemen I know as former service members are surrounding him...

He yells my name and trots toward my car, I get out and ask where his M4 was and start to laugh, he makes a beeline for the truck as the now 4 walk over to me and ask if I could charge the guy for his lies, He actually wore that uniform into a bar and was drinking... I gave them his name and where his day job was in case they wanted to send some investigators looking for that M4....:supergrin:

Rabbi
12-06-2011, 15:13
Local Whacker, just saw him after his 6 month tour of Afghanistan (never happened) and he wanted to sell me his M4 because he took too many lives with it...

So I had to play and said your "personal" M4 and no he said he was given his Issued M4 by his commander and it was OK because it was just a 3 round burst..Now since he has never even been in the service I asked if Captain Kangaroo gave it to him and Said ... YOU DON'T HAVE A REAL M4 STOP LYING TO ME IF YOU COME UP WITH THIS BULL**** AGAIN I WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE CHARGED, SO TAKE YOUR MADE UP STORIES BACK TO YOUR ONLINE GAMING BUDDIES...

This was in earshot of 30 or so people so he slunk back to his whacker mobile (Lifted F350 with Cowboy up across the back window and a ranger tab on the window below it.)
And left..

Fast forward 2 weeks I see him outside a bar in a Marine Multicam uniform with his scgragly beard and cover and SSgt insignia along with Ranger tab, he is backing up 4 gentlemen I know as former service members are surrounding him...

He yells my name and trots toward my car, I get out and ask where his M4 was and start to laugh, he makes a beeline for the truck as the now 4 walk over to me and ask if I could charge the guy for his lies, He actually wore that uniform into a bar and was drinking... I gave them his name and where his day job was in case they wanted to send some investigators looking for that M4....:supergrin:

:rofl:

DaBigBR
12-06-2011, 16:38
We had an applicant that was 19 or 20 (IIRC) and has already worked in state corrections in another state, been a repo man, done loss prevention, and was working as an "auxillary" officer with a small town in a neighboring county. I put "auxillary" in quotes because our state does not officially recognize such a thing, only RESERVE officers. This was a designation the agency used when a reserve could not carry a gun (in this case their policies prevented a person under 21 from carrying, even on duty). I forgot to mention that he drove an old Crown Vic with a wrap-around push bumper.

ANYWAYS...he did a ride-along with me and regaled me with stories from his vast experience. Eventually, we ended up having to have another agency's DRE examine a driver that we stopped. After that contact, he had to "have a talk with me" because I was "going to be getting a phone call." Turns out that while he was loss prevention he had chased and apprehended a shoplifter that had later died in custody (legitamitely not his fault). He felt that this had biased members of the other agency against him and said that they (the other agency) had made complaints against him to his department regarding his off-duty driving behavior and allegedly intimidating other motorists by folloiwng them around, etc. None of that was ever substantiated and the officer(s) that made the complaints never identified themselves. Then I find out that right after he was a repo man he had picked up a charge for leaving the scene of an injury accident after driving away while his own car was being repossesed, and tossing the repo guy off the car. KEEP IN MIND THIS KID IS ONLY 20!

Needless to say, we didn't hire him. The scary thing is, if he applied today, they just might take him.

Fast forward about a year. In that time I've seen his car around, sporting first blue (volunteer fire) and then purple ("funeral escort") lights on the dash and an arrow stick. He was telling people he was a volunteer firefighter with a department in the county that he didn't actually work for (verified by the agency). Private funeral escorts are extremely uncommon around here.

One night we recieve an attempt to locate on a possible intoxicated driver. The reporting party follows the guy all the way to his apartment building parking lot and then "detains him" there. I responded, along with another agency. The officer from the other agency ended up handling the drunk (he was actually drunk) and I discover that our reporting party, is none other than our hero, the corrections/repo/auxiallary/loss prevention/volunteer FF/storm chaser (forgot to mention that)/bouncer (current occupation) kid. He's quite proud of himself and gloats that he has all of the drunk's driving behavior recorded on his IN-CAR VIDEO. The officer from the other agency told him in no uncertain terms that he would provide the video or the officer would obtain a search warrant for it and seize the entire video system.

Haven't seen the kid in over a year, though, so that's good. There's another one with an old Crown Vic running around town that has an antenna farm, arrow stick, and "Illinois State Police" license plate frame (we're not in Illinois...)

Angry Fist
12-06-2011, 16:45
This is gunna be good.


:popcorn:

Rabbi
12-06-2011, 16:47
This is gunna be good.


:popcorn:

...yeah, I think it is.

Rabbi
12-06-2011, 16:50
.../storm chaser (forgot to mention that)...


I just learned today that storm chasers are now(the newest) part of the whacker club. They put lights on their cars and often all kinds of other stuff...a lot of it that is, of course, meant to look as official as they can.

We really dont have them here, so maybe this is old news to some but I find it interesting that the tool in your story...of course included that one on his resume.

Patchman
12-06-2011, 19:20
Storm chaser?

From now on anyone who asks what I do, I'm going to say "storm chaser." To get my story straight, as a storm chaser, would I be a volunteer or a NOAA employee?

m2hmghb
12-06-2011, 20:36
Storm chaser?

From now on anyone who asks what I do, I'm going to say "storm chaser." To get my story straight, as a storm chaser, would I be a volunteer or a NOAA employee?

I have to say that some of the "storm chasers" are certified medics or FFs, the tornado season doesnt last that long so they do other things as well. With that said I do have to admit it is a bit "whackerish"

Rabbi
12-06-2011, 20:38
Storm chaser?

From now on anyone who asks what I do, I'm going to say "storm chaser." To get my story straight, as a storm chaser, would I be a volunteer or a NOAA employee?

I am speaking of the dufuses who just chase after tornados in order to be youtube famous.

Hack
12-06-2011, 22:05
Local Whacker, just saw him after his 6 month tour of Afghanistan (never happened) and he wanted to sell me his M4 because he took too many lives with it...

So I had to play and said your "personal" M4 and no he said he was given his Issued M4 by his commander and it was OK because it was just a 3 round burst..Now since he has never even been in the service I asked if Captain Kangaroo gave it to him and Said ... YOU DON'T HAVE A REAL M4 STOP LYING TO ME IF YOU COME UP WITH THIS BULL**** AGAIN I WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE CHARGED, SO TAKE YOUR MADE UP STORIES BACK TO YOUR ONLINE GAMING BUDDIES...

This was in earshot of 30 or so people so he slunk back to his whacker mobile (Lifted F350 with Cowboy up across the back window and a ranger tab on the window below it.)
And left..

Fast forward 2 weeks I see him outside a bar in a Marine Multicam uniform with his scgragly beard and cover and SSgt insignia along with Ranger tab, he is backing up 4 gentlemen I know as former service members are surrounding him...

He yells my name and trots toward my car, I get out and ask where his M4 was and start to laugh, he makes a beeline for the truck as the now 4 walk over to me and ask if I could charge the guy for his lies, He actually wore that uniform into a bar and was drinking... I gave them his name and where his day job was in case they wanted to send some investigators looking for that M4....:supergrin:

If you find any posing as ex military, posing as something that they are not, they are breaking federal law. By all means go ahead and charge him, or report on him.

mj9mm
12-06-2011, 22:33
:cheers:, i sure hope there's more, this is too much fun. i think somebody forgot to hand out the meds to some of these guys. :rofl:

Vigilant
12-06-2011, 22:49
Holster sniffers. :rofl:

Perhaps they are on the other end of the spectrum from experienced confrontationists....... :supergrin:

lawman800
12-07-2011, 00:58
Storm chasers... now that you mentioned it... I have been seeing quite a bit of non-CVPI vehicles on the freeways with antenna farms and that huge sky tower CB radio antenna wobbling in the wind. I think one Subaru did have some ambers mounted in various spots. Now it makes sense... because as you all know, we have a lot of tornadoes and storms in the greater Los Angeles area, for sure!

As for whackers... too many around because we have a few local regional academies and a lot of pre-service guys who never will be hired end up being security whackers. On that topic, it seems like these guys all gravitate toward the same fields:

-Security (of course)
-Bouncer
-Loss Prevention
-Public Safety (security by another name)
-Mixed Martial Art hang-around
-Volunteer at a police department, fire department, or any other public agency to get that public agency ID, including the local library
-Parking Enforcement

So, as for whackers... and I hate to say this, but there's a local guy who's actually not a bad guy. He wants to be a cop really really really bad but cannot due to some physical and medical issues (overweight being one), and I always see him around town wearing various tee shirts that have department names on it, and most of the time, having a silk screened badge on the chest. He will tell you the whole story about his experience with the explorers and how he was medical'ed out of the academy and whatnot... sad thing is... like I said, he is a nice guy, just has that hunger that will never be satisfied.

The-Fly
12-07-2011, 02:04
I just learned today that storm chasers are now(the newest) part of the whacker club. They put lights on their cars and often all kinds of other stuff...a lot of it that is, of course, meant to look as official as they can.

We really dont have them here, so maybe this is old news to some but I find it interesting that the tool in your story...of course included that one on his resume.


I have to confess, I do some occasional storm chasing myself (not anywhere near as nutty as the guys you see on TV....), and I know a few guys do run some fairly bright LED type flashers on their cars. These guys aren't using their lights in a "wacker" type fashion, but when they're on the side on the road observing a rotating wall cloud or something to that effect, and the visibility is crap, the usefulness of the lights becomes apparent.

Of course the group I know, none of the gear looks anything like LE gear, and the guys aren't using their lights when they're in motion, etc.


Speaking of wackers, I once got accused here of being a wacker myself after posting pictures of my mobile radio (FYI - Ham radio operator here) :rofl:

Personally I think my mobile looks far better then the crap you guys use to yak away on :tongueout:



http://www.btfh.net/posting/honda-radio1.jpg



http://www.btfh.net/posting/honda-radio2.jpg

Panzergrenadier1979
12-07-2011, 06:45
........I discover that our reporting party, is none other than our hero, the corrections/repo/auxiallary/loss prevention/volunteer FF/storm chaser (forgot to mention that)/bouncer (current occupation) kid. He's quite proud of himself and gloats that he has all of the drunk's driving behavior recorded on his IN-CAR VIDEO.

:wow:

:rofl:

rockapede
12-07-2011, 07:02
We had a kid who had been a jailer at the local SO but had been terminated (for domestic assault...). He told the Sheriff he had "lost" his ID card. He was making stops in town in his truck with a red light stuck to his dash and "warning" people for all sorts of traffic violations. As one can imagine, this did not go on long before the citizens got suspicious of the hick in the lifted Chevy with no uniform telling them he was a deputy sheriff (which he had never been even when employed). One guy called it in and specifically mentioned this bright young soul had flashed his SO id card when he stopped the guy.

I found the kid in his truck that night, red light now in the back seat. He tells me he has not stopped anyone but has simply followed them to wherever they were going before warning them. I ask for consent to search him and his truck for the ID card and he says, "I don't think so. This is a trust issue, don't you trust me?" Wrong answer. I arrested him for impersonating an officer and towed his truck. I got a warrant and searched the truck to find the ID, then charged him with theft.

Will the charges stick? With our prosecutor, maybe not. I do know, however, that I've successfully prevented that moron from ever working in LE in my state.

RussP
12-07-2011, 07:17
I am speaking of the dufuses who just chase after tornados in order to be youtube famous.Looking for their "Dorothy Moment"...:wavey:

lloydchristmas
12-07-2011, 10:44
We had a kid who had been a jailer at the local SO but had been terminated (for domestic assault...). He told the Sheriff he had "lost" his ID card. He was making stops in town in his truck with a red light stuck to his dash and "warning" people for all sorts of traffic violations. As one can imagine, this did not go on long before the citizens got suspicious of the hick in the lifted Chevy with no uniform telling them he was a deputy sheriff (which he had never been even when employed). One guy called it in and specifically mentioned this bright young soul had flashed his SO id card when he stopped the guy.

I found the kid in his truck that night, red light now in the back seat. He tells me he has not stopped anyone but has simply followed them to wherever they were going before warning them. I ask for consent to search him and his truck for the ID card and he says, "I don't think so. This is a trust issue, don't you trust me?" Wrong answer. I arrested him for impersonating an officer and towed his truck. I got a warrant and searched the truck to find the ID, then charged him with theft.

Will the charges stick? With our prosecutor, maybe not. I do know, however, that I've successfully prevented that moron from ever working in LE in my state.

I love this.

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Ducowti
12-07-2011, 11:46
Stayed at a RedRoof last week in the Greensboro NC area. As a concerned guest I queried the security chap, who was a total cliche, about what kind of riffraff are active warranting his presence. 'Honestly, the usual drugs and prostitution. But there's only one room right now I'm watching, it's an ongoing investigation.' :upeyes: He continued, 'but don't worry I've got my undercovers coming by later.' :upeyes: :upeyes:

Walking the dog later (the reason I had to slum it at the RR) I watched him execute a rather untactical entry into a room whose door was ajar, baton at the ready :shocked:

Patchman
12-07-2011, 14:05
Aaaah.... staying at hotels. That's why my gun is closer to me while I'm at hotels than when I'm at home.

KCNUKE
12-07-2011, 17:58
[QUOTE=Needless to say, we didn't hire him. The scary thing is, if he applied today, they just might take him.[/QUOTE]

I'd take vacation just to do his background. I'm sure it would be rather lengthy and entertaining. :rofl:

Rabbi
12-12-2011, 22:56
....so....anyone else?

Ajon412
12-12-2011, 23:13
Aaaah.... staying at hotels. That's why my gun is closer to me while I'm at hotels than when I'm at home.

You got that right, Brother......:wavey:

Kadetklapp
12-13-2011, 07:55
We have a toolbox who I actually went to college with. I've watched him bloom into the wacker he is today. He started his infancy with the university police in the cadet program (as was I). He was fired after doing some not so smart things with his little cadet uniform and for screwing up a pretty important assault investigation. He quit school and moved home (county next door to me) and began his life of "anti-crime" working as a reserve at a couple of places. He was fired from each place (I think a total of three reserve gigs in three or four years) for doing bone-headed stuff. During this time he was also a volly FF. He bought a black Crown Vic and decked it with blue lights, push bar, strange decals, etc. He had a FS Vista bar on it. Even more reports started coming in that this guy was showing up in this car in strange places under strange circumstances, and there were rumors he was pulling people over in the car. At the time he was still a reserve. He got bounced from the reserve job, but not before removing his lightbar and installing red and blue mirror lights on the CVPI he's driving.

He still has them on there, a year or more after getting bounced. He's not on a fire department either. I saw him last week at a bar sitting in his car watching the parking lot....IDK why.

lawman800
12-13-2011, 08:00
We have a toolbox who I actually went to college with. I've watched him bloom into the wacker he is today. He started his infancy with the university police in the cadet program (as was I). He was fired after doing some not so smart things with his little cadet uniform and for screwing up a pretty important assault investigation. He quit school and moved home (county next door to me) and began his life of "anti-crime" working as a reserve at a couple of places. He was fired from each place (I think a total of three reserve gigs in three or four years) for doing bone-headed stuff. During this time he was also a volly FF. He bought a black Crown Vic and decked it with blue lights, push bar, strange decals, etc. He had a FS Vista bar on it. Even more reports started coming in that this guy was showing up in this car in strange places under strange circumstances, and there were rumors he was pulling people over in the car. At the time he was still a reserve. He got bounced from the reserve job, but not before removing his lightbar and installing red and blue mirror lights on the CVPI he's driving.

He still has them on there, a year or more after getting bounced. He's not on a fire department either. I saw him last week at a bar sitting in his car watching the parking lot....IDK why.

Reserve bouncer?

Lt Scott 14
12-13-2011, 12:31
Had a car following me one night, then wig wags and blue light on visor lit up. Roadway is rural and double striped(no passing) and I did do a shoulder thing to be courteous to a firefighter(volunteer, I thought). He stopped behind me and got out with a 4d cell maglite.
Well as Gomer would say "Surprise,Surprise,Surprise" I had a Sheriff/s ID, Glock 19, and a cell phone I was dialing to my dept for an assistance call. He was mad because I didn't yield fast enough to his blue light. He stopped cold, started backing up.
"Where's the fire, bud?" He says he's an EMT and the call was cancelled. 2 deputies arrived and asked" What's up?" Found out he had scanner, VHF to our Freq, siren box, wig wags, blue lights front and rear deck, grill mounted and antenna farm on a 2000 black Crown Vic.
Best thing: Expired plates!!!!! Got ticketed, towed, stored, and hopefully not doing bonehead driving anymore.

dreis454
12-13-2011, 12:39
Umm WHACKER??? please explain.

EDIT: after reading more i get the idea,but where did the term come from?

lawman800
12-13-2011, 12:43
Had a car following me one night, then wig wags and blue light on visor lit up. Roadway is rural and double striped(no passing) and I did do a shoulder thing to be courteous to a firefighter(volunteer, I thought). He stopped behind me and got out with a 4d cell maglite.
Well as Gomer would say "Surprise,Surprise,Surprise" I had a Sheriff/s ID, Glock 19, and a cell phone I was dialing to my dept for an assistance call. He was mad because I didn't yield fast enough to his blue light. He stopped cold, started backing up.
"Where's the fire, bud?" He says he's an EMT and the call was cancelled. 2 deputies arrived and asked" What's up?" Found out he had scanner, VHF to our Freq, siren box, wig wags, blue lights front and rear deck, grill mounted and antenna farm on a 2000 black Crown Vic.
Best thing: Expired plates!!!!! Got ticketed, towed, stored, and hopefully not doing bonehead driving anymore.

Poetic! In CA, his car would have been stripped of the unauthorized emergency equipment and he would have caught a felony charge for impersonating.

Kadetklapp
12-13-2011, 12:52
Umm WHACKER??? please explain.

EDIT: after reading more i get the idea,but where did the term come from?

Refers to a crude act of self-gratification upon seeing police equipment/police business.

dreis454
12-13-2011, 12:54
Refers to a crude act of self-gratification upon seeing police equipment/police business.

OK umm eww.:shocked:

ateamer
12-13-2011, 13:08
There was a guy who was a reserve on a small PD here. He was always kind of weird, and finally got canned when he was sitting at home one evening, listening to the scanner and heard a hot call (well, it was a hot call for them, not for anyone else). He threw on his uniform and drove his personal car to the location. They released him from further obligation after that.

A couple years after that, he got arrested. Seems he had some pen-pal chick in prison, and she had gotten him to try and smuggle some heroin in. He never even got to try and complete the delivery because the scheme fell apart. He had been a cop but never learned that incoming mail to prisoners is screened.

Oh, and the weak-ass courts gave him probation. He belonged in prison.

CJStudent
12-13-2011, 13:12
Poetic! In CA, his car would have been stripped of the unauthorized emergency equipment and he would have caught a felony charge for impersonating.

KY too, especially since blue lights = LE here. I never understood other states using them for volly FFs.

Panzergrenadier1979
12-13-2011, 13:19
Best thing: Expired plates!!!!! Got ticketed, towed, stored, and hopefully not doing bonehead driving anymore.

SCORE!

LOL, that made my day!

:rofl: :rock::dancingbanana:

BailRecoveryAgent
12-13-2011, 13:26
I know a former Federal Air Marshal who one time got seated next to "the small talker" on the plane. The guy wouldn't shut up or leave him alone and asked if he was nervous or scared of flying as to the reason for him not talking much or doing anything to occupy the time like reading or listening to music. He told him no, and the guy leaned over and said, "Well don't worry buddy, I'm the Air Marshal on this flight and I won't let nothing bad happen on my watch.":rofl::rofl:

After they landed, he was met at the gate and received a crash course in the legal ramifications of impersonating a federal law enforcement officer. I still laugh to the point of tears when I hear him tell the whole story.

lawman800
12-13-2011, 20:42
I know a former Federal Air Marshal who one time got seated next to "the small talker" on the plane. The guy wouldn't shut up or leave him alone and asked if he was nervous or scared of flying as to the reason for him not talking much or doing anything to occupy the time like reading or listening to music. He told him no, and the guy leaned over and said, "Well don't worry buddy, I'm the Air Marshal on this flight and I won't let nothing bad happen on my watch.":rofl::rofl:

After they landed, he was met at the gate and received a crash course in the legal ramifications of impersonating a federal law enforcement officer. I still laugh to the point of tears when I hear him tell the whole story.

That is too classic... I love it.

I'm sure we all have met "that guy" while in plainclothes. You know, the guy that tries too hard to look like he's SWAT or wears all sorts of tee shirts or hats depicting LE affiliation. About 99.94724422145% of those people will not be cops. They might be dispatch or civilian volunteers at best but they will regale you with stories about the secret agency they work for and the secret assignment they work. Then you ask them the most rudimentary questions about LE and they have no idea or they get it all wrong... and then you ask if you are so secret, why you tell me? Didn't they teach you the first rule about being "secretive"?

G27Chief
12-13-2011, 22:16
This is gunna be good.


:popcorn:

Uh huh It is ::faint:

md2lgyk
12-14-2011, 09:52
Storm chaser?

From now on anyone who asks what I do, I'm going to say "storm chaser." To get my story straight, as a storm chaser, would I be a volunteer or a NOAA employee?

Not as funny as you might think. When I was a small-town LEO in Kansas, one of my "collateral duties" was storm watch (even had to take a class on how to do it). Basically, whenever there was a tornado warning issued, I (and most of the deputies too) would cruise around looking for storms and cloud formations that indicated a tornado might touch down.

Kadetklapp
12-14-2011, 10:38
Not as funny as you might think. When I was a small-town LEO in Kansas, one of my "collateral duties" was storm watch (even had to take a class on how to do it). Basically, whenever there was a tornado warning issued, I (and most of the deputies too) would cruise around looking for storms and cloud formations that indicated a tornado might touch down.

Same way here. Unfortunately there is a plethora of "cloud cops" that are too busy driving around with yellow lights on to notice any actual threat...

EMTRN
12-15-2011, 17:49
I can't imagine liking that stormchaser stuff. As part of our in-service last year, we had to do the Skywarn class. I'll never get that four hours back. Thank goodness for iphones.

EMTRN
12-15-2011, 17:55
Not all reserves are whackers either. lol I went from reserve, to full time, and then back to reserve when I was not making enough to pay my wonderful ex all of the child support she required. I am a trauma rn full time and still work reserve to keep my inservice hours current. I have been doing it since 2001, first with a large dept and now with a smaller dept where the reserves are needed to function. I have found that the guys who do it for "whackerish" reasons never last long.

Rabbi
12-15-2011, 19:09
Not all reserves are whackers either. lol I went from reserve, to full time, and then back to reserve when I was not making enough to pay my wonderful ex all of the child support she required. I am a trauma rn full time and still work reserve to keep my inservice hours current. I have been doing it since 2001, first with a large dept and now with a smaller dept where the reserves are needed to function. I have found that the guys who do it for "whackerish" reasons never last long.

I honestly dont think the "spirit" of the whacker is about Reserves. In theory, even if "whacherish" :rofl: (and a full time officer could be as well) a reserve, by definition(in most States), isnt a wannabe.

car541
12-15-2011, 20:35
Swatbwana has informed me that this is more appropriately posted here....Enjoy. It is somewhat a case of someone telling his own Whacker story.


http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1387688

The poster on this thread says he has a car of the same make and model as the local PD (CVPI I assume) with blacked out windows for surveillance purposes.

I bet that Ford (or other full size police type sedan) with the tinted windows is a useful tool when you want to blend in. (blend in as the police that is)

This is good stuff "he checked and confirmed I was a good guy". My MDT is old, but I have never actually gotten a return of "good guy" from NCIC.

So, what is the proper procedure??????

Rabbi
12-15-2011, 20:42
Swatbwana has informed me that this is more appropriately posted here....Enjoy. It is somewhat a case of someone telling his own Whacker story.


http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1387688

The poster on this thread says he has a car of the same make and model as the local PD (CVPI I assume) with blacked out windows for surveillance purposes.

I bet that Ford (or other full size police type sedan) with the tinted windows is a useful tool when you want to blend in. (blend in as the police that is)

This is good stuff "he checked and confirmed I was a good guy". My MDT is old, but I have never actually gotten a return of "good guy" from NCIC.

So, what is the proper procedure??????

That link doesnt work for me...and I really want it to...

car541
12-15-2011, 20:44
That link doesnt work for me...and I really want it to...

If you go to the GATE self defense forum, it is the 1st or second one up there I will attempt to re link it....

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1387688

Rabbi
12-15-2011, 21:19
If you go to the GATE self defense forum, it is the 1st or second one up there I will attempt to re link it....

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1387688

Ah. El Dorko was being an El Dorko and is upset because "the man" got in the way of that for a few minutes.

...and, as has been said...nothing like doing "surveillance" in a white crown vic.... :rofl:


....yeah...Whacker...hell, a whacker off!

Angry Fist
12-15-2011, 21:20
If you go to the GATE self defense forum, it is the 1st or second one up there I will attempt to re link it....

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1387688
As far as that goes, I agree. MO is not a duty to inform, but I have anyway. The first time, the kid thanked me twice for informing him, and I thanked him for not proning me out in the snow in front of my friends.

Agent6-3/8
12-15-2011, 22:22
There's one guy around here that absolutely annoys the piss out of me. Believe it or not, he's actually a preacher or at least used to be, not really sure if he has a church now or not. He always wants to talk about LE and acts as if he's BTDT. Always has a story to tell about this, that or the other...

This part is gonna make me sound like a ******, but here goes. Around here, there are a lot of volunteer firemen that come off as real wankers. They trick their trucks out with lights, big FD stickers in their rear windows, carry around the largest radios they can find. wear FD t-shrts 24/7, etc. They even run "code" in their aforementioned tricked out POV's and all manner of other retarded stuff. They seem to have a need to be seen as important and have some sort of authority, be it perceived or real.

A couple summers ago I worked a crash where one of these types took out 4 cars, a rack of propane tanks, the front of a gas station and damn near the pumps flying in their POV to what amounted to a sapling that had fallen into one lane of a road. Their face was pretty priceless when asked to sign the tickets. :supergrin:

I have to watch my comments sometimes as my fiance's family is a bunch of volunteer hose draggers. Thankfully however, they're the sane ones that are professional about their work.

BailRecoveryAgent
12-15-2011, 22:23
Ah. El Dorko was being an El Dorko and is upset because "the man" got in the way of that for a few minutes.

...and, as has been said...nothing like doing "surveillance" in a white crown vic.... :rofl:


....yeah...Whacker...hell, a whacker off!

Man, i've been goin about this bail enforcement gig all wrong, I gotta get me a blacked out crown vic just like the po-lice!

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EMTRN
12-15-2011, 22:27
This part is gonna make me sound like a ******, but here goes. Around here, there are a lot of volunteer firemen that come off as real wankers. They trick their trucks out with lights, big FD stickers in their rear windows, carry around the largest radios they can find. wear FD t-shrts 24/7, etc. They even run "code" in their aforementioned tricked out POV's and all manner of other retarded stuff. They seem to have a need to be seen as important and have some sort of authority, be it perceived or real.

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Don't get me started on firemen! :steamed: Many of my friends are firemen and we have some awesome check wars. They are such heroes. lol

Sam Spade
12-16-2011, 13:47
This is no **** (or, "Once upon a time", for you whackers). Anyway, there I was...

We were running a minor surveillance gig, looking for some minor bad guys. A little bit into it, after some unproductive follows, the eye comes up. "We might as well call it, we're burned. Some moron from patrol just rolled through with his spot light on."

A bit annoyed, was I. Only a bit, because it was a minor gig, like I said. But annoyed, because we had checked out like we were supposed to. I try and find out who blew our stakeout, so I can remind him to pay attention to the location of unmarked cops in the future. Crickets. Now I'm a bit more annoyed. Man up, wouldya?

When lo and behold, a Crown Vic makes its way past me (I'm a couple blocks away from the site, and we're delayed while the eye gets back to his ride and such.) White, pushbumpers, spotlight, cage, little antenna farm--is that a CB antenna?--and as it actually passes, no door markings and commercial plates.

Whacker. Heard some of the streets on the air and wanted to see what's what. Explained why that wasn't the optimal choice for him. Must not have taken, because we were to have one more encounter, months later.

Rabbi
12-16-2011, 13:57
This is no **** (or, "Once upon a time", for you whackers). Anyway, there I was...

We were running a minor surveillance gig, looking for some minor bad guys. A little bit into it, after some unproductive follows, the eye comes up. "We might as well call it, we're burned. Some moron from patrol just rolled through with his spot light on."

A bit annoyed, was I. Only a bit, because it was a minor gig, like I said. But annoyed, because we had checked out like we were supposed to. I try and find out who blew our stakeout, so I can remind him to pay attention to the location of unmarked cops in the future. Crickets. Now I'm a bit more annoyed. Man up, wouldya?

When lo and behold, a Crown Vic makes its way past me (I'm a couple blocks away from the site, and we're delayed while the eye gets back to his ride and such.) White, pushbumpers, spotlight, cage, little antenna farm--is that a CB antenna?--and as it actually passes, no door markings and commercial plates.

Whacker. Heard some of the streets on the air and wanted to see what's what. Explained why that wasn't the optimal choice for him. Must not have taken, because we were to have one more encounter, months later.

You had a random guy going around spotlighting? (Or was it a security guy?)

seanmac45
12-16-2011, 15:57
One night my teams had finished the evening's buy and bust and we were on the way to central booking to process the catch. I stopped off to pick up coffee and sandwiches for the boys. On my way back, I slo mo'd a red and a block later got lit up by an unmarked CV with a fireball on the dash.

It didn't look right so I just sat there and lo and behhold here comes an eighteen year old acne ridden moron flashing his Auxiliary Shield, telling me to give him my paperwork. I stepped out at which time he noticed three things; shield on neck chain, gun on hip and extremely pissed off look on my face.

Wound up walking into central booking with coffee, sandwiches and one whacker in cuffs. He cried all night long.

Agonizer
12-16-2011, 16:24
This is gunna be good.


:popcorn:


May I join you? :drink:

Sam Spade
12-16-2011, 16:31
You had a random guy going around spotlighting? (Or was it a security guy?)

Whacker with a scanner.

Rabbi
12-16-2011, 16:33
Whacker with a scanner.

Ah....

So, do tell the rest....

PuroMexicano
12-16-2011, 16:52
someone should sticky this crap :rofl:

lloydchristmas
12-16-2011, 16:53
One night my teams had finished the evening's buy and bust and we were on the way to central booking to process the catch. I stopped off to pick up coffee and sandwiches for the boys. On my way back, I slo mo'd a red and a block later got lit up by an unmarked CV with a fireball on the dash.

It didn't look right so I just sat there and lo and behhold here comes an eighteen year old acne ridden moron flashing his Auxiliary Shield, telling me to give him my paperwork. I stepped out at which time he noticed three things; shield on neck chain, gun on hip and extremely pissed off look on my face.

Wound up walking into central booking with coffee, sandwiches and one whacker in cuffs. He cried all night long.

Sweet!

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S.O.Interceptor
12-16-2011, 17:13
This part is gonna make me sound like a ******, but here goes. Around here, there are a lot of volunteer firemen that come off as real wankers. They trick their trucks out with lights, big FD stickers in their rear windows, carry around the largest radios they can find. wear FD t-shrts 24/7, etc. They even run "code" in their aforementioned tricked out POV's and all manner of other retarded stuff. They seem to have a need to be seen as important and have some sort of authority, be it perceived or real.


Around here they even buy old decommissioned patrol cars and leave the strips and decals, except for the word "police/sheriff" which the agencies remove. They run hot to everything. And I'm almost certain one of them is responsible for our impersonator problems.

Angry Fist
12-16-2011, 17:43
someone should sticky this crap :rofl:
What kind of crap like this goes on down there?

Hollywood D
12-16-2011, 18:29
I saw a VW passat the other day with a light bar on it. It must have been a light bar off of a crown vic because it was about 2 feet wider than the VW. I assume he was a volunteer FF, not sure what else it would have been.


Around here they even buy old decommissioned patrol cars and leave the strips and decals, except for the word "police/sheriff" which the agencies remove. They run hot to everything. And I'm almost certain one of them is responsible for our impersonator problems.

Rabbi
12-16-2011, 21:26
I saw a VW passat the other day with a light bar on it. It must have been a light bar off of a crown vic because it was about 2 feet wider than the VW. I assume he was a volunteer FF, not sure what else it would have been.

I see some of the security companies around here rolling in some very funny stuff. Of course, most of them have late model Crown Vic or Chargers and are often painted to look just like the local Police. Hell, the only difference is instead of "Police" it will say "Security."

Some of them though....some of them... :rofl: There is still one outfit that somehow, someway has managed to keep the last of the K cars alive. (they have not made these things in over 15 years....and you would think the last ones died...15 years ago. It has to be a labor of love to keep a fleet of these piles-o-poo running.

They look similar to this, with vintage bar as well...of course they have clear bars that are so clouded they look milky. When ever I see one them (the company seems to have the contract for bad area gas stations) I dont know if I should laugh or salute the thing.

http://www.allpar.com/squads/photos/dodge/K-car.jpg


As for volunteer FF around here, it seems the standard formula is (this is Texas) is a pickup with a bar of some kind on a headache rack.

Cubdriver
12-17-2011, 08:21
Ok, Rabbi - what's a 'headache rack'? I never heard that term before.

Very interesting thread, and I too would like to hear the rest of Sam's encounters with the whacker that blew their stakeout. I just don't understand some people.

-Pat

trdvet
12-17-2011, 08:34
Arrested a former FBI dude for impersonating. Had a small truck with an old red teardrop light on his dash and an old badge that hadn't been in use in 30 years. Pulled some guy over for passing him. Turns out he did the same thing a year earlier. Called the local FBI who said he did work for them but didn't know in what capacity. I'm guessing analyst.

trdvet
12-17-2011, 08:35
Ok, Rabbi - what's a 'headache rack'?


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQV1MQCESvW31JbOZEHZKK04EhSspHbrkdPkQZNQjIwGT5qJY-yiw

car541
12-17-2011, 09:02
Around here they even buy old decommissioned patrol cars and leave the strips and decals, except for the word "police/sheriff" which the agencies remove. They run hot to everything. And I'm almost certain one of them is responsible for our impersonator problems.

The volunteer fireman cars I love are the ones where the lights are worth way more than the car.

We have a guy in my area that runs around in a puke green ford station wagon from about 1980 with a full up Whelen LED light bar and about 15 red and white lights in the windows.

He is a pretty nice guy, but when he pulls that hoopty up to a crash or whatever, the lights drain the battery in about 15 minutes and he always needs a wrecker to get get it started again.

$2000 in lights on a $500 car always cracks me up.

Unistat
12-17-2011, 09:28
What kind of crap like this goes on down there?

I'd guess Darwin takes care of whackers Down South. Average life expectancy of fake-cop vs. narco-operator has to be measured with an atomic clock.

lawman800
12-17-2011, 09:34
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQV1MQCESvW31JbOZEHZKK04EhSspHbrkdPkQZNQjIwGT5qJY-yiw

That's pretty cool. I'm getting those for my truck!:whistling:

Check out this dude with his VFF BMW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzs7DzwG4A

Rabbi
12-17-2011, 10:47
For whatever reason my K car pic link is fubar...so, I give you another in all of it's glory!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/-IEQzVuRmPcw/ThztsBi8AvE/AAAAAAAAxUE/AfRhARJLNys/KCarPoliceCARS.jpg


And here would be a good example of a headache rack with a bar on it. (often similar to how wreckers mount their bars)

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a437/workinduramax/leds.jpg

http://www.800toolbox.com/cabguards_p/headache_rack_police.jpg

Cubdriver
12-17-2011, 10:56
Ahh, ok, thanks all.

-Pat

Morris
12-17-2011, 13:06
See, around here, whackers is a term used to describe folks with mental disorders so you had me confused. We've got plenty of them.

Rabbi
12-17-2011, 13:18
See, around here, whackers is a term used to describe folks with mental disorders so you had me confused. We've got plenty of them.

How about "Wannabes who get dangerously close to impersonation or at the very least, security/vff/ems types who take the lights and badge thing way to serious..."

Mayhem like Me
12-17-2011, 14:01
Seanmac45 had me remember a (reverse whacker ) story.

Just finished paperwork on a long list of buy busts, last of the evidence turned in it's December 23rd about 2100 hrs and I'm headed home, as a joke a few of us had Santa hats on and I had thrown baby powder in my red beard to look more Santa like I still had on my green shirt with DEA on the front and Narcotics Task force on the back vest full nylon raid gear, big gold star on neck chain, duty rig......

Pull up to a light in the hood and my Grey TBird super coupe It is well know with the tinted windows and small 1/4 wave antenna no one approaches the car to sell...ALMOST made it,,,, new guy from Tampa walks up knocks on window I show badge and say" buck off" the bad word version...
he POUNDS ON WINDOW "You Ain't The Police buy a rock.." So now I am slightly agitated..

I roll window down with gun in hand and tell him to Back up ....and drop the the fn' rocks,, Homeboy wants to argue and says again " you ain't the police , buy some rock ..

Since I was now really pissed and some of the locals were starting to watch and see what , "Big Red" was gonna do I step out and he is still yelling "You ain't the Police You SANTA" as I cuff him and call for a Beat Car.....He has 5 eightballs on him




you cannot fix stupid...


My SAIC was highly amused and drove back to the office and had the perp hold up a sign that said I sold Crack to Santa...

The SA plead it down to simple possession because he did not want to explain the Santa get up...

Morris
12-17-2011, 14:11
Jesus wept Rabbi . . . K Cars? For patrol?

seanmac45
12-17-2011, 14:55
Swatbwana;

I think you win.................:rofl:

lawman800
12-17-2011, 17:35
The K-cars are bad... but then again, the 1985 Caprice they made me drive when I was new wasn't much better. I floored that car trying to keep up with the caravan that we were rolling in and it died trying to get to 55mph... but the only good thing is that it was so old and decrepit that it had a functional ashtray and nobody cared that I smoked in it. I actually sat through an all night special detail smoking a cigar in that car and put it out in the ashtray. Not one complaint... well... actually, I think they junked that car soon afterwards so nobody really knew.

dmjonez
12-17-2011, 21:01
Subscribed. This stuff makes for great reading...

RetailNinja
12-17-2011, 23:04
There was a kid in a small town (near Emington, IL actually) that had a nicer Charger than any of ours, and it had an animal control style cage installed. He replaced his OEM rear brake LED with an all red Code 3 LED bar. I was, and still am, jealous. I'll have pics at some point.

series1811
12-19-2011, 09:40
I know a former Federal Air Marshal who one time got seated next to "the small talker" on the plane. The guy wouldn't shut up or leave him alone and asked if he was nervous or scared of flying as to the reason for him not talking much or doing anything to occupy the time like reading or listening to music. He told him no, and the guy leaned over and said, "Well don't worry buddy, I'm the Air Marshal on this flight and I won't let nothing bad happen on my watch.":rofl::rofl:

After they landed, he was met at the gate and received a crash course in the legal ramifications of impersonating a federal law enforcement officer. I still laugh to the point of tears when I hear him tell the whole story.

A friend of mine named Kim is an FBI agent and she's cute. One night she is in a bar with a girlfriend and these two guys sit down and start to hit on them. Finally one of them, trying to close the deal, leans over and says, "I'm an FBI agent."

Kim thinks, great, of all the bars, and all the guys, I've got another agent trying to hook me up. So, she decides she is going to play this guy for a few laughs before she tells him where she works and acts like she is super impressed. Then he asks, "Would you like to see my badge?" and Kim says something like, "Oh, that would be so exciting to see a real FBI badge."

So this guy pulls out an ID and badge and she looks at it and realizes it is a complete fake. She pulls out hers and says, "That's funny, yours doesn't really look much like the one they gave me." :supergrin:

Mayhem like Me
12-19-2011, 10:01
A friend of mine named Kim is an FBI agent and she's cute. One night she is in a bar with a girlfriend and these two guys sit down and start to hit on them. Finally one of them, trying to close the deal, leans over and says, "I'm an FBI agent."

Kim thinks, great, of all the bars, and all the guys, I've got another agent trying to hook me up. So, she decides she is going to play this guy for a few laughs before she tells him where she works and acts like she is super impressed. Then he asks, "Would you like to see my badge?" and Kim says something like, "Oh, that would be so exciting to see a real FBI badge."

So this guy pulls out an ID and badge and she looks at it and realizes it is a complete fake. She pulls out hers and says, "That's funny, yours doesn't really look much like the one they gave me." :supergrin:

YOUR FRIEND IS A FEMALE BREAST INSPECTOR TOO!!!!

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1041TX
12-19-2011, 10:33
I'm just waiting for a certain few of my academy mates who haven't gotten jobs yet to start down this path.....beat up Crown Vic etc. Ahh yes I can see it now.......


Posted on my iCrack......errr iPhone.

Rabbi
12-19-2011, 11:03
I'm just waiting for a certain few of my academy mates who haven't gotten jobs yet to start down this path.....beat up Crown Vic etc. Ahh yes I can see it now.......


Posted on my iCrack......errr iPhone.

Very good observation...

It does seem like some of those who get the closest but "not quite," are up there in terms of groups that produce these kinds of people.

jwhite75
12-19-2011, 11:17
Seanmac45 had me remember a (reverse whacker ) story.

Just finished paperwork on a long list of buy busts, last of the evidence turned in it's December 23rd about 2100 hrs and I'm headed home, as a joke a few of us had Santa hats on and I had thrown baby powder in my red beard to look more Santa like I still had on my green shirt with DEA on the front and Narcotics Task force on the back vest full nylon raid gear, big gold star on neck chain, duty rig......

Pull up to a light in the hood and my Grey TBird super coupe It is well know with the tinted windows and small 1/4 wave antenna no one approaches the car to sell...ALMOST made it,,,, new guy from Tampa walks up knocks on window I show badge and say" buck off" the bad word version...
he POUNDS ON WINDOW "You Ain't The Police buy a rock.." So now I am slightly agitated..

I roll window down with gun in hand and tell him to Back up ....and drop the the fn' rocks,, Homeboy wants to argue and says again " you ain't the police , buy some rock ..

Since I was now really pissed and some of the locals were starting to watch and see what , "Big Red" was gonna do I step out and he is still yelling "You ain't the Police You SANTA" as I cuff him and call for a Beat Car.....He has 5 eightballs on him




you cannot fix stupid...


My SAIC was highly amused and drove back to the office and had the perp hold up a sign that said I sold Crack to Santa...

The SA plead it down to simple possession because he did not want to explain the Santa get up...


OPEN CARRY SHOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS!!!!:rofl::rofl::tongueout::rofl:

lawman800
12-19-2011, 11:24
Very good observation...

It does seem like some of those who get the closest but "not quite," are up there in terms of groups that produce these kinds of people.

Every industry has some type of "ancillary" services that attract the failures.

For cops it's security, bail enforcement, bouncers, executive protection, or whatever else you want to give yourself some feeling of authority.

For lawyers, we also have notary publics, paralegals, legal consultants, and other riffraff who work on the fringes of the law profession, skirting the lines of practicing law without a license.

Cubdriver
12-19-2011, 11:53
A friend of mine named Kim is an FBI agent and she's cute. One night she is in a bar with a girlfriend and these two guys sit down and start to hit on them. Finally one of them, trying to close the deal, leans over and says, "I'm an FBI agent."

Kim thinks, great, of all the bars, and all the guys, I've got another agent trying to hook me up. So, she decides she is going to play this guy for a few laughs before she tells him where she works and acts like she is super impressed. Then he asks, "Would you like to see my badge?" and Kim says something like, "Oh, that would be so exciting to see a real FBI badge."

So this guy pulls out an ID and badge and she looks at it and realizes it is a complete fake. She pulls out hers and says, "That's funny, yours doesn't really look much like the one they gave me." :supergrin:

Ohh, THAT must have been a Kodak moment! The look on his face must have been priceless! :wow:

-Pat

Rabbi
12-19-2011, 12:13
A friend of mine named Kim is an FBI agent and she's cute. One night she is in a bar with a girlfriend and these two guys sit down and start to hit on them. Finally one of them, trying to close the deal, leans over and says, "I'm an FBI agent."

Kim thinks, great, of all the bars, and all the guys, I've got another agent trying to hook me up. So, she decides she is going to play this guy for a few laughs before she tells him where she works and acts like she is super impressed. Then he asks, "Would you like to see my badge?" and Kim says something like, "Oh, that would be so exciting to see a real FBI badge."

So this guy pulls out an ID and badge and she looks at it and realizes it is a complete fake. She pulls out hers and says, "That's funny, yours doesn't really look much like the one they gave me." :supergrin:

:rofl:

That actually reminds me of a milder story of my own.

About a month ago I was wearing a gun brand jacket. A guy comes up to me and asks me if I own one of those brand of guns. I inform he that I do. (Les Baer pistols)

This is a well dressed middle aged man in the cities nicest grocery store. I was in the cheese and wine tasting area. (hardly "whacker" central)

As soon as I answer "I do"...off he goes. "I am a cop, I was a SEAL...I wrote the bible....whatever...." and I only carry Les....blah blah blah..."

I asked him where he was a cop. He must have played this game before because he stops in his tracks and asks "why are you a cop?" I answer that "I am"...he begins to backtrack a lot about "Well, uh....you see..."

I walked away mid conversation. I probably should have throat punched him(or beat him with a cardboard box....). Not exactly a great ending to the story but I just walked away while he was speaking.

Hack
12-19-2011, 12:15
Ohh, THAT must have been a Kodak moment! The look on his face must have been priceless! :wow:

-Pat

I wonder if he is one of our fine establishments?

ryanm
12-19-2011, 12:23
...I probably should have throat punched him(or beat him with a cardboard box....)....

:rofl: :rofl:
Nice!

Cubdriver
12-19-2011, 13:00
I can't believe that you wasted all that money on something that they're too cheap to put in a container better than a cardboard box! They saw YOU coming.... :whistling:

-Pat

:rofl:

That actually reminds me of a milder story of my own.

About a month ago I was wearing a gun brand jacket. A guy comes up to me and asks me if I own one of those brand of guns. I inform he that I do. (Les Baer pistols)

This is a well dressed middle aged man in the cities nicest grocery store. I was in the cheese and wine tasting area. (hardly "whacker" central)

As soon as I answer "I do"...off he goes. "I am a cop, I was a SEAL...I wrote the bible....whatever...." and I only carry Les....blah blah blah..."

I asked him where he was a cop. He must have played this game before because he stops in his tracks and asks "why are you a cop?" I answer that "I am"...he begins to backtrack a lot about "Well, uh....you see..."

I walked away mid conversation. I probably should have throat punched him(or beat him with a cardboard box....). Not exactly a great ending to the story but I just walked away while he was speaking.

tc215
12-19-2011, 13:28
I can't believe that you wasted all that money on something that they're too cheap to put in a container better than a cardboard box! They saw YOU coming.... :whistling:

-Pat

Cheap? I guess you've never tried to buy a replacement cardboard box from them...They're awful proud of them. ;)

Hollywood D
12-19-2011, 18:02
For whatever reason my K car pic link is fubar...so, I give you another in all of it's glory!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/-IEQzVuRmPcw/ThztsBi8AvE/AAAAAAAAxUE/AfRhARJLNys/KCarPoliceCARS.jpg


And here would be a good example of a headache rack with a bar on it. (often similar to how wreckers mount their bars)

http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a437/workinduramax/leds.jpg

http://www.800toolbox.com/cabguards_p/headache_rack_police.jpg


Does that truck say 'City of Talent PD'? LMAO

tusk212
12-19-2011, 19:34
I'm just waiting for a certain few of my academy mates who haven't gotten jobs yet to start down this path.....beat up Crown Vic etc. Ahh yes I can see it now.......


One guy I went to the academy with showed up with a Crown Vic two weeks into the academy. He would always talk about sitting at some pull off along the road eating lunch. Had a cb in it and everything. Last I heard he is guarding smoke stacks somewhere.

bfd1210
12-19-2011, 20:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqyiYd4iCYY

FM12
12-19-2011, 21:50
Is this thread about me? Just asking is all.

AngryEskimo
12-19-2011, 21:55
I've worked as a security guard for the last four years and had the misfortune of working with several whackers.

whacker 1. He claimed to be an Ex-Navy "Sniper" went to jump school and was trained by Marine D.I.'s a Ft. Benning for some top-secret special ops Navy unit. He claimed to have been deployed to Somalia where he was wounded in 2000.

whacker 2. Claimed he was a platoon commander in the 32nd Tank battalion in the Marine Corps. I know that there is only 4 of them, and when I pointed that out to him, he said that he was a "plank owner to a new tank unit." He later claimed he was an ex Bedford officer and that he was fired for arresting the mayor's son. Later this idiot claims he was waiting to be sent to the academy by the Secret Service as a K-9 handler, which changed to the D.E.A., which changed to the C.I.A. S.A.D. unit, which changed to the F.B.I., which changed to the State Department D.S.S., which changed to the Dallas Police, than he claimed he got hired by the Plano P.D., but that he said the F.T. Worth P.D. hired him. The only reason I kept track of his tall tales was that his line of b.s. was the top joke in that company.

whacker 3. Idiot went out and equipments his personal CV with a push bar, red and blue interior lights, back cage, sirens, upfront rifle and shotgun rack, lap top holder with a tough book mounted in it, like the ones Dallas PD uses, PA system, and dash camera. He would aslo claim that his Olympic Arms AR was converted to fully automatic. I was tempted to call the B.A.T.F. on him for his claims on the AR-15, but Dallas P.D. scooped him up when he was doing traffic stops in his CV while he was wearing his security uniform.

whacker 4. This moron was the Paul Blart version of "that guy"[even looked like Paul Blart] everything you did or own, he did or owned "better". His cheap uncle mikes thigh hloster was better than my safariland SLS[ he claimed he could drawn and fire in under .03 seconds with his cheap crappy holster] He told me that he did more advance training as a National Guardmen truck driver than I did as a Marine Grunt. He even got caught pulling people over while driving company vehicles while on security patrol[the cars where black changers with two blinking amber lights in the grill]. Needless to say this moron got arrested when he pepper sprayed a kid.

Whackers 3 and 4 worked in the same company, I am so glad I don't work with those idiots anymore at my current job.

jdh31313
12-20-2011, 08:28
I don’t know if this counts but upon graduation from Army Medical Specialist Training at Fort Sam Houston, TX in 1993, one of my fellow soldiers decided to promote and decorate himself. He promoted himself from Private E-2 to Corporal and if that wasn’t enough he decided that he “earned” jump & air assault wings. After the graduation ceremony, but prior to departing for the airport boy-genius got decked out to include beret and bloused jump boots. He was an initial entry soldier so obviously had not earned the additional rank or awards. Once the Drill Sergeants saw him, they snatched him up and I never saw him again. The only thing I know was he didn’t make his flight because we were booked on the same flight.
Since I left the military in 1997, I have worked 4 years in state corrections and over 10 years now private security for a fortune 100 company. While in corrections I saw some questionable (whackerish) behavior. The most flagrant was a fellow co-worker I saw at Wal-Mart carrying an exposed pistol with a badge affixed to his belt while off-duty. Now this conduct was perfectly legal, moral, and ethical but just nothing that I would ever do and kind of strange. For my current job, we have a great screening process (extensive background check, medical, psych & ect…) which weeds out undesirables.

Mayhem like Me
12-20-2011, 09:48
Whacker update ...... whacker in my first post read it. He claims he will. Sue.. I asked for his screen name here and he did not give it..more when I. Get it...

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Mayhem like Me
12-20-2011, 09:49
Oh he claims ranger sticker was on truck when he bought it......probably why he bought it.....

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Rabbi
12-20-2011, 10:02
Whacker update ...... whacker in my first post read it. He claims he will. Sue.. I asked for his screen name here and he did not give it..more when I. Get it...

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:rofl:

What a jack wagon...

So, this guy, who no one knows, we just know "screen name swatbwana told a story about unknown person..." and the way he thinks he is going to solve this is to make it public record who he really is? Awesome!

Yeah, some people are just wired to be wrong. Sometimes this is very frustrating...sometimes it is very entertaining.

Rabbi
12-20-2011, 10:04
Oh he claims ranger sticker was on truck when he bought it......probably why he bought it.....

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So, did he wake up in some other dudes multi-cam as well? :rofl:

lawman800
12-20-2011, 10:07
So, did he wake up in some other dudes multi-cam as well? :rofl:

At least he didn't throw the, "Hey, that's not my truck! That's my cousin's truck!":whistling:

SgtScott31
12-20-2011, 13:15
I will add some of my experiences:

#1 - I found this out last night. A guy I'm in law school with, who talks like he knows everything there is to know about the law and politics, was picked up last week for conspiracy to distribute 300+ grams of meth (A felony). Now this is the type of kid who will probably roll on everyone he was in contact with, so I'm sure a plea agreement will be worked out, but it's likely his law career is over.

I volunteered with a Rescue Squad for several years prior to LE work and we had some serious whackers in our area. Down here in my neck of the woods, we refer to them as "squirrels." In the county where I volunteered, there were 11 volunteer fire departments and 3 volunteer rescue squads. A few of the agencies had leaders with a good head on their shoulders so their agencies normally got rid of the squirrels fairly quickly. Then you had some other agencies who were FULL of them. One dept had a Chief & Asst. Chief who were also tow-truck operators. They both had vehicles decked out in lights, one of which was a crown vic. They both had handgun carry permits and would always walk around with a gun strapped to their side, regardless if they were towing a vehicle or responding to a fire call. I believe the Chief was ultimately caught misusing department funds and canned.

I can recall a couple of others who would show up on wreck scenes without even being dispatched. They had no medical training and it got to be so bad because of the POV response, the Sheriff instructed his dispatchers not to send the VFDs to motor vehicle collisions unless requested by the Squads or EMS. I never understood why some of the jurisdictions even allowed their people to do it. They would receive a fire call and you would have a dozen cars there before the freaking fire truck. Because of the amount of VFDs in the county, normally the jurisdictions of each were not too large, so responding to the station made more sense to me. Anyway, I know over several years a couple of the VFD members were caught & charged with arson for setting fires and then responding to them. Ironically enough you can find many similar stories in other states. These folks have a yearning for fire and when there hasn't been one, they decide to light something up that was abandoned or broken down just so they can show up and fight it. Weird.

Mayhem like Me
12-20-2011, 13:29
I will add some of my experiences:

#1 - I found this out last night. A guy I'm in law school with, who talks like he knows everything there is to know about the law and politics, was picked up last week for conspiracy to distribute 300+ grams of meth (A felony). Now this is the type of kid who will probably roll on everyone he was in contact with, so I'm sure a plea agreement will be worked out, but it's likely his law career is over.

I volunteered with a Rescue Squad for several years prior to LE work and we had some serious whackers in our area. Down here in my neck of the woods, we refer to them as "squirrels." In the county where I volunteered, there were 11 volunteer fire departments and 3 volunteer rescue squads. A few of the agencies had leaders with a good head on their shoulders so their agencies normally got rid of the squirrels fairly quickly. Then you had some other agencies who were FULL of them. One dept had a Chief & Asst. Chief who were also tow-truck operators. They both had vehicles decked out in lights, one of which was a crown vic. They both had handgun carry permits and would always walk around with a gun strapped to their side, regardless if they were towing a vehicle or responding to a fire call. I believe the Chief was ultimately caught misusing department funds and canned.

I can recall a couple of others who would show up on wreck scenes without even being dispatched. They had no medical training and it got to be so bad because of the POV response, the Sheriff instructed his dispatchers not to send the VFDs to motor vehicle collisions unless requested by the Squads or EMS. I never understood why some of the jurisdictions even allowed their people to do it. They would receive a fire call and you would have a dozen cars there before the freaking fire truck. Because of the amount of VFDs in the county, normally the jurisdictions of each were not too large, so responding to the station made more sense to me. Anyway, I know over several years a couple of the VFD members were caught & charged with arson for setting fires and then responding to them. Ironically enough you can find many similar stories in other states. These folks have a yearning for fire and when there hasn't been one, they decide to light something up that was abandoned or broken down just so they can show up and fight it. Weird.


True Dat,,,
my worst arson case involved a Volunteer Firefighter.. I had him on 6 structure fires...Whack Job...

Glock30Eric
12-20-2011, 14:31
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WarCry
12-20-2011, 15:22
See, this thread, depending on the time of day, either makes me feel better or worse.

I'm considering buying a decommissioned Impala - Admin if I can get/verify it. I don't want it to be a "Whacker", but because of the beefed-up everything in it. I don't want lights, stripes, or any of that nonsense. If it has the spotlight, I'd leave it (just because I've heard leaving it alone offers better seals against the weather as opposed to plugging the hole).

I go back and forth wondering if I'm on the verge of something like these guys, then I read this thread and I realize that I probably don't need to worry about it.

Love reading this stuff, though. Hopefully I don't ever end up the subject of one of these threads some day.

Vigilant
12-20-2011, 16:01
See, this thread, depending on the time of day, either makes me feel better or worse.

I'm considering buying a decommissioned Impala - Admin if I can get/verify it. I don't want it to be a "Whacker", but because of the beefed-up everything in it. I don't want lights, stripes, or any of that nonsense. If it has the spotlight, I'd leave it (just because I've heard leaving it alone offers better seals against the weather as opposed to plugging the hole).

I go back and forth wondering if I'm on the verge of something like these guys, then I read this thread and I realize that I probably don't need to worry about it.

Love reading this stuff, though. Hopefully I don't ever end up the subject of one of these threads some day.

I would think twice about buying a car with even moderate miles and front wheel drive. If the FWD ever goes out, the repair bill would not be pleasant.


Contact North Carolina Highway Patrol in Raleigh and pick up a nice P71. Just look 'em over carefully, and pick out the right one. I have had excellent luck with their cars down through the years. I have a 2004 P71 as a personal car, and love it. Oh, and for the record, the number of antennas on said car is....... zero.

WarCry
12-20-2011, 16:35
I would think twice about buying a car with even moderate miles and front wheel drive. If the FWD ever goes out, the repair bill would not be pleasant.


Contact North Carolina Highway Patrol in Raleigh and pick up a nice P71. Just look 'em over carefully, and pick out the right one. I have had excellent luck with their cars down through the years. I have a 2004 P71 as a personal car, and love it. Oh, and for the record, the number of antennas on said car is....... zero.

I don't want the full-size. I want the FWD for snow/ice (it should be interesting to see how the new Caprice does in the next few months). The Impala is the midsized sedan that's a good fit for me. As for a drove-til-it-broke FWD, I'm in a 97 Sable right now. Pretty sure I'd be hard pressed to go backwards.

But, yes, I do have thoughts of getting "looks" for driving an ex-cop-car. I suppose it's not the car but the driver that makes it a whacker-mobile, though......




.....right?

k9medic
12-20-2011, 16:58
I bought an old crown Vic a few years ago to use as a commuter car. I beat the heck out of it for a year and sold it for $800 more than i bought it for. It served
It's purpose although I did catch crap from the guys at the PD.

On a side note, I saw an older gentleman today wearing an FHP gold badge. No gun visible and he was way too old to be active - >75 y/o. Perhaps he's still holding onto his glory days.

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Angry Fist
12-20-2011, 17:22
Great stories. :rofl:

I need to get my wife a P71 with a push bumper. She's a crappy driver, and folks will be sure to steer clear.... I hope.

car541
12-20-2011, 20:03
I'm considering buying a decommissioned Impala -
.

Just remember, somewhere, sometime someone has lost control of his bowels, bladder or gag reflex in that car. probably several of each.

it gets in places you cant even check.

WarCry
12-20-2011, 20:46
Just remember, somewhere, sometime someone has lost control of his bowels, bladder or gag reflex in that car. probably several of each.

it gets in places you cant even check.

Hence looking for a verifiable admin car, as opposed to a front-line cruiser.





...though, I guess with some of the admins.....

1041TX
12-21-2011, 20:33
I dunno, I prefer to leave work at work, and walking out to the driveway and seeing a car that looks like my work ride sitting there is kind of like a punch in the face. BAM! POW! Kinda glad they don't give us the option of a take home.


Back to the rescheduled program. A dude from my academy class (never got hired, and now we are starting to see why...) was calling a few guys from said class who were actually employed trying to get them to run "subjects" through NCIC etc. You can imagine the response. I swear one of these days I will end up arresting this fool.

SgtScott31
12-21-2011, 20:37
We got rid of our Impalas after 5 yrs and swore never to buy them again. Because of our agency size they were pool cars, used almost 24/7, and couldn't hold up compared to the Crown Vic. We have Chargers now.

Mayhem like Me
12-21-2011, 20:51
Dblpost

Mayhem like Me
12-21-2011, 20:53
http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/
whacker heaven:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Cubdriver
12-21-2011, 21:51
http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/
whacker heaven:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Guess they won't help you if you have an INconvient store, huh? That looks like a crew I'd feel secure with. :upeyes:

-Pat

Top_Shot_31
12-21-2011, 22:59
http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/
whacker heaven:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


I hope to GOD that isn't real. They look like the dirty south version of Operation Repo.

TBO
12-22-2011, 01:25
Had a whacker show up at my HQ in full black BDU's with Security badge/patches..... and a black campaign hat with silver badge. They wanted to know if we needed any assistance with things... :drillsgt:

lloydchristmas
12-22-2011, 03:51
http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/
whacker heaven:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

BWAHAHAHA!!

Dual-wielding is AWESOME!!

Ship A'Hoy
12-22-2011, 04:22
Had a whacker show up at my HQ in full black BDU's with Security badge/patches..... and a black campaign hat with silver badge. They wanted to know if we needed any assistance with things... :drillsgt:

I was wearing gold badge if you please... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Ship A'Hoy
12-22-2011, 04:28
http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/
whacker heaven:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Too funny.

http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/var/ke/529460/1884989-callout-06-22-2011.jpg

dmjonez
12-22-2011, 06:18
Too funny.

http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/var/ke/529460/1884989-callout-06-22-2011.jpg

No employee is too big or too small...

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2011, 06:39
No employee is too big or too small...
How bout that Hottie with a Shottie


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lawman800
12-22-2011, 06:42
Not something I would proudly display on my webpage for sure...

Panzergrenadier1979
12-22-2011, 07:09
http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/
whacker heaven:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Speechless.

:wow::faint:

CJStudent
12-22-2011, 07:17
Okay, I'll play with my story. Back when I was doing the rentacop thing, I worked at a group of bars downtown. We had a guy come down there with a state DOC badge hanging from a neck holder (CO, not P&P). He had handcuffs, a baton, and I think spray. No gun. He had a stack of "wanted" posters, and said he was out looking for these guys with warrants. It sounded weird to me, and to my boss, who's wife was a Probation/Parole Officer with the same agency. He came around for a week or two, then just disappeared. I found out later from our own wprebeck that he was trying the same thing somewhere else, and got hooked by LMPD for impersonation. Come to find out, he had been fired from one of the local prisons, and never turned in his badge, ID, or uniforms. So yeah, last I heard he was headed to a facility managed by his former employer. I wonder what he's into now, though; it's been a few years.

series1811
12-22-2011, 07:20
You can only hope that website is a parody or joke. Unfortunately, we all know better.

k9medic
12-22-2011, 10:21
I flew into DFW a few weeks ago and one of these guys rode the butt of my rental car for about 15 miles. Having never been to Texas, I actually thought it was the real police until I looked them up

Www.statewidepatrol.com

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lawman800
12-22-2011, 12:09
I flew into DFW a few weeks ago and one of these guys rode the butt of my rental car for about 15 miles. Having never been to Texas, I actually thought it was the real police until I looked them up

Www.statewidepatrol.com

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A whole company of whackers! What is this, an epidemic?

http://www.statewidepatrol.com/images/14601226.png

TBO
12-22-2011, 15:00
There's been no shortage of Whackers on here over the years.
Some of my favorites:

-Guy who claimed to be an LEO and posted a photo of a marked squad.... only to have the real LEO jump in and point out that was HIS squad and the photo was from a magazine article.

-Guy who jumped in every thread as Mr. LEO , "Thee" LEO expert, backed by his claim of being a "Former Federal LEO". Total poser. He's still on GT, but I haven't seen him try to claim LE status in a long time.

LilCop2002
12-22-2011, 16:18
http://tacticalbodyguardservices.com/
whacker heaven:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



That's not too far from my wife's job. I might need to go get an application...

k9medic
12-22-2011, 16:21
I was on officer.com back in its infancy but I haven't posted there in some time. Some websites like abpweb (member there too ) have a serious vetting process that is great but sometimes it's just fun to point out the wackers on our own board.

Give 'em enough rope...


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Ship A'Hoy
12-22-2011, 18:19
I flew into DFW a few weeks ago and one of these guys rode the butt of my rental car for about 15 miles. Having never been to Texas, I actually thought it was the real police until I looked them up

Www.statewidepatrol.com

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What kind of contracts do they get to afford a fleet of Chargers?

I'd be embarrased to drive one of those.

WarCry
12-22-2011, 19:13
I actually do have a story about a guy that I had the misfortune of knowing personally.

He was stopped at a light one day in his unmarked CV, and someone behind him wasn't paying attention and bumped into him from behind, just a general, casual bump. He got out and looked at the back of his car, then walked back and flashed his badge to the driver, and told her it was her lucky day there was no damage.

The punchline?

The car was a mid-80s Crown Vic, probably around 84-86 (this was about 2000). It was an actual city-owned and issued vehicle. His badge was also 100% authentic.

He was the city's building inspector.

MadMonkey
12-24-2011, 01:23
I pulled my mom over with my amber lights awhirl in a Citizens on Patrol car once... she was mad :embarassed:

4teecal
12-24-2011, 01:36
Www.statewidepatrol.com


I particularly liked this exert from their employment criteria.:whistling:



"Excellence Through Training."


We apply the most stringent standard in the industry to our hiring process.

Each new applicant must successfully pass a comprehensive battery of tests includin

Writing sample
Personality profile questionnaire
Alcohol and drug urine analysis
Thorough criminal history check on State and Federal level.
In-depth personal interview.

And that is just for starters!

Ship A'Hoy
12-24-2011, 06:52
I particularly liked this exert from their employment criteria.:whistling:

I'd love to be a fly on the wall during those interviews...So Bubba wat kinda guns do ya got? Do ya got cha any tactical gear? Have you ben to ninja training?

k9medic
12-24-2011, 07:17
What concerns me more is the fact that they publicly state that they try to look like the police.

I'm not sure if I am ready to face the fact that a whacker/ security company could actually tell the truth.


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CJStudent
12-24-2011, 07:46
Tell me this isn't wacker heaven......

http://www.nles.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=338

lawman800
12-24-2011, 12:13
Tell me this isn't wacker heaven......

http://www.nles.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=338

There's another outfit that outright sells replica (I would say counterfeit) federal and state credentials with ID, badge and wallet as a whole kit. They are based in Germany if I recall and someone here listed their website before.

I looked and their stuff looks pretty authentic from their website pics. They got the whole tiny little federal crackerjack badge and case right, along with the big ID in it. They also had some local stuff too like the LAPD Centurion shield and other whacker gear.

CJStudent
12-24-2011, 12:30
There's another outfit that outright sells replica (I would say counterfeit) federal and state credentials with ID, badge and wallet as a whole kit. They are based in Germany if I recall and someone here listed their website before.

I looked and their stuff looks pretty authentic from their website pics. They got the whole tiny little federal crackerjack badge and case right, along with the big ID in it. They also had some local stuff too like the LAPD Centurion shield and other whacker gear.

Wow...... And that stuff is allowed to be imported?

The-Fly
12-24-2011, 12:30
Tell me this isn't wacker heaven......

http://www.nles.com/store/customer/home.php?cat=338


I kinda like the "Registered Mercenary" one myself :rofl:

CJStudent
12-24-2011, 12:34
I kinda like the "Registered Mercenary" one myself :rofl:

Here you go; wacker kit in a box!

http://www.nles.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=1820&cat=153&page=1

The-Fly
12-24-2011, 12:40
Here you go; wacker kit in a box!

http://www.nles.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=1820&cat=153&page=1

Bah, being a "Fugitive Recovery Agent" is so 90's. I wanna be a merc! :tongueout:

CJStudent
12-24-2011, 12:43
:rofl:

So you want to go back to the 80's, then?

The-Fly
12-24-2011, 12:54
:rofl:

So you want to go back to the 80's, then?

Heck, I'm old school. 70's for me!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/fal_man_among_men_poster.jpg

CJStudent
12-24-2011, 12:57
Heck, I'm old school. 70's for me!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/fal_man_among_men_poster.jpg

Maybe if you could get your link to work, we'd see your 70's picture! :tongueout:

lawman800
12-24-2011, 13:26
I am waiting for the overthrower of governments badge.

Ship A'Hoy
12-24-2011, 14:37
Heck, I'm old school. 70's for me!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/fal_man_among_men_poster.jpg

I'd like to have the FAL that guys carrying.

FiremanMike
12-24-2011, 15:43
Local Kroger security guard had a full duty belt. I noticed he had a dual speedloader case (appeared full) as well as a double mag pouch (also appeared full).. No gun, no holster..

FiremanMike
12-24-2011, 15:50
I forgot, on of our cops noticed another one carrying an airsoft in a duty holster, same location.

boby
12-24-2011, 17:28
I may have the ultimate whacker story.

I used to be an auxiliary for a large department near by. We didn't carry a firearm or have arrest powers, but we were trained in some basic self defense, carried OC, and handcuffs. We had EVOC training and could drive squad cars for blocking off traffic and such, not allowed to pull anyone over. Our main duties were directing traffic for large events, and help with setup/tear down of DUI checkpoints.

We had a guy in our unit, probably about 400lbs. He had his own unmarked CVPI fully decked out. Lights, siren, laptop, radios etc. He even had police plates. He told everyone he served warrants for the sheriffs department. He was even hired by local businesses to work off duty security gigs. Eventually people started figuring out something was wrong because on his off duty gigs, whenever he would need to make an arrest he would just let the arestee sit there in cuffs until the next shift arrived. He would then convince them to do all of the paper work and he would take off. He also kept changing his story about where he worked, one day it was the sheriffs department, next day he was a CO, next day he was a reserve.

Finally the sworn police officer in charge of our unit did some research on the police plates on his car. Turns out the plates were stolen off of a police car a few years before and he had been doing this for years! He was able to purchase uniforms and such from the local police supply place with his auxiliary police officer ID card.

They ended up staking him out to get some evidence, recorded him working off duty security, putting people in cuffs, etc. Then of course they arrested him. I'm not sure what happened to him because we were told not to speak about it ever again. Everything was kept pretty hush hush, I imagine to keep embarrassment off of the unit/department. Amazing that this guy was able to fool so many people for so long.

Rabbi
12-24-2011, 17:57
I may have the ultimate whacker story.

I used to be an auxiliary for a large department near by. We didn't carry a firearm or have arrest powers, but we were trained in some basic self defense, carried OC, and handcuffs. We had EVOC training and could drive squad cars for blocking off traffic and such, not allowed to pull anyone over. Our main duties were directing traffic for large events, and help with setup/tear down of DUI checkpoints.

We had a guy in our unit, probably about 400lbs. He had his own unmarked CVPI fully decked out. Lights, siren, laptop, radios etc. He even had police plates. He told everyone he served warrants for the sheriffs department. He was even hired by local businesses to work off duty security gigs. Eventually people started figuring out something was wrong because on his off duty gigs, whenever he would need to make an arrest he would just let the arestee sit there in cuffs until the next shift arrived. He would then convince them to do all of the paper work and he would take off. He also kept changing his story about where he worked, one day it was the sheriffs department, next day he was a CO, next day he was a reserve.

Finally the sworn police officer in charge of our unit did some research on the police plates on his car. Turns out the plates were stolen off of a police car a few years before and he had been doing this for years! He was able to purchase uniforms and such from the local police supply place with his auxiliary police officer ID card.

They ended up staking him out to get some evidence, recorded him working off duty security, putting people in cuffs, etc. Then of course they arrested him. I'm not sure what happened to him because we were told not to speak about it ever again. Everything was kept pretty hush hush, I imagine to keep embarrassment off of the unit/department. Amazing that this guy was able to fool so many people for so long.

Wow...that reminds me of a story.

We had a guy at the police academy that jumped the gun on getting a "courtesy officer" apartment (serious discount or even free rent in exchange for living in a complex and being on call for that complex because you are LEO)

This guy moved into a place on a deal like that before he was done with the Academy. He got caught because one night there was an issue of some kind (I think a drunk messing with cars) and the responding officers followed up on why this dip crap didnt have a clue as to what he was doing.

lawman800
12-24-2011, 21:43
Local Kroger security guard had a full duty belt. I noticed he had a dual speedloader case (appeared full) as well as a double mag pouch (also appeared full).. No gun, no holster..

Hey, the man is a walking armory for those who carry guns. Just tell him to stock up on the ammo you use and you can stop carrying reloads when you shop at Krogers!

FiremanMike
12-25-2011, 04:52
Hey, the man is a walking armory for those who carry guns. Just tell him to stock up on the ammo you use and you can stop carrying reloads when you shop at Krogers!

Lol, once again my perspective was off!

2-8 Marine
12-25-2011, 06:51
I forgot, on of our cops noticed another one carrying an airsoft in a duty holster, same location.


I noticed one of the security guards at our local mall carrying a gun and thought it kind of strange because I'd never seen any of the mall officers armed before. Also, something about the gun just didn't appear right. I got a little closer to the guy to checkout the gun and sure enough, it was a "BB" Pistol. :faint:

FiremanMike
12-25-2011, 07:49
I noticed one of the security guards at our local mall carrying a gun and thought it kind of strange because I'd never seen any of the mall officers armed before. Also, something about the gun just didn't appear right. I got a little closer to the guy to checkout the gun and sure enough, it was a "BB" Pistol. :faint:

Scenarios like that are pathetic and dangerous all at the same time.

2-8 Marine
12-25-2011, 09:15
Scenarios like that are pathetic and dangerous all at the same time.

Agreed. I should have mentioned he was wearing a sam brown belt and leather gear probably in the $150.00 range. This was back a few years when a lot of PD's were just switching to nylon gear to save bucks. My department made the switch and I just hated nylon gear.

lawman800
12-25-2011, 14:05
Scenarios like that are pathetic and dangerous all at the same time.

Be careful, he can put an eye out!:whistling:

Metro566
12-25-2011, 19:17
I remember one night, my partner and I responded to a section 8 housing complex to assist in a search warrant. Our officers began stacking up against the side of the complex to serve the warrant when off to the left I see a set of amber lights screaming up to the complex. These two security guards jump out of the car (an old CVPI) and walk up to us with their weapons drawn in a low-carry.

I looked at my partner and then back at the security guards and say, "just what in the hell do you think you're doing?" The one responds that they "got our backs" and were going to help with the warrant.

My Sarge, eyes as big as saucers after hearing this bullcrap, walks over and says "get the **** out of here". As he's walking back to the complex, one of them shouts "You get out of here, this is OUR jurisdiction!". :faint:

This particular sarge was built like a brick *****house and had zero patience for security guards. He spins around and runs up to the one and slaps the bracelets on him while telling my partner to hook the other.

The best part was listening to them explain to their supervisor, who was forced to respond to the scene, why they were in handcuffs :rofl:

spikedzombies
12-25-2011, 20:28
I remember one night, my partner and I responded to a section 8 housing complex to assist in a search warrant. Our officers began stacking up against the side of the complex to serve the warrant when off to the left I see a set of amber lights screaming up to the complex. These two security guards jump out of the car (an old CVPI) and walk up to us with their weapons drawn in a low-carry.

I looked at my partner and then back at the security guards and say, "just what in the hell do you think you're doing?" The one responds that they "got our backs" and were going to help with the warrant.

My Sarge, eyes as big as saucers after hearing this bullcrap, walks over and says "get the **** out of here". As he's walking back to the complex, one of them shouts "You get out of here, this is OUR jurisdiction!". :faint:

This particular sarge was built like a brick *****house and had zero patience for security guards. He spins around and runs up to the one and slaps the bracelets on him while telling my partner to hook the other.

The best part was listening to them explain to their supervisor, who was forced to respond to the scene, why they were in handcuffs :rofl:

I think I pissed myself a little reading that one... Lol

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Morris
12-26-2011, 10:28
My Sarge, eyes as big as saucers after hearing this bullcrap, walks over and says "get the **** out of here". As he's walking back to the complex, one of them shouts "You get out of here, this is OUR jurisdiction!".

Hoooooleeeeeeee Guano, Bat man . . . .

You can't make this stuff up.

ateamer
12-26-2011, 12:24
Years ago when I was a security guard, I met a couple guards from another company. We were just a regular contract security company, mostly shopping centers. They had a patrol car. A Dodge Diplomat (it was the mid-80s) outfitted with push bumpers and a nickel-plated shotgun in a regular vertical rack. The guard explained that it was legal for them to have shotguns as long as they were unloaded and they only put shells in the magazine if they took it out to use it. (Uh, wrong. California laws never prohibited guards from having shotguns, and never imposed any regulations on how their guns - any guns - are loaded.)

He also told me that they did a lot of police work for San Jose PD. What he meant was that they did alarm response, and sometimes cancelled the PD from responding as well.

That company was out of business in a year or two.

Gombey
01-04-2012, 13:46
New Year....new stories?

Just a little bump, the stories so far have been hilarious!

Kadetklapp
01-04-2012, 14:00
Not a wacker story per say, but the wife and I were at the big mall near us a couple nights ago and this mall uses pretty squared away looking guards, they don't try to be anything they aren't but wear LE like uniforms and leather gear. Anyway, this kid is at the customer service kiosk shooting the bull with the girl there and I notice coming out the back of his uniform cap is the tell-tale stripe of a close-cut mohawk. I gotta say, if I thought I could pull off a mohawk, I'd rock it under my uniform cap...

blueiron
01-04-2012, 16:34
Hey, the man is a walking armory for those who carry guns. Just tell him to stock up on the ammo you use and you can stop carrying reloads when you shop at Krogers!

Finally! A job for the Retired On Duty crowd who refuse to do anything that involves OT or paperwork.

Give them 20% of an officers salary and dispatch them to dynamic scenes. On days where there are no such scenes, they can get lunches, clean ranges, hand wash and detail patrol vehicles, etc. They can also be used as bullet sponges or for blood transfusions as needed by real cops or firefighters.

Nick.45
02-22-2012, 16:20
A buddy ran into a future wacker the other night. He had a kid doing a ride along with him, which is usually no big deal. The kicker is that the kid is an a junior police explorers program with a neighboring agency and showed up wearing a duty belt with hand cuffs, flashlight, etc. While on a traffic stop, the kid decides that turn on the passenger spot light and shine it into the car and blinding the officer. Needless to say he was not happy and ended the ride along soon after. Just a matter of time before he gets his own retired CVPI to spotlight people with.

Bodyarmorguy
02-22-2012, 16:39
I work for a Port Aurthority Police Department. during the times that a cruise ship is docked at a terminal, we transfer the responsibility for the terminal to one of two private security compaies who screen the oncoming passenger, luggage, etc. One of the companie had a whacker in their employ, always talking aboout guns and how he wants to be a cop and is going to go to the academy, etc. Actually, a nice enough kid, he is just eaten up with it. HE also works for the Police Department in a civilian capacity. We hire people in a security guard position to staff the two intermodal gates entering the port.

One evening a get a call from a neighboring jursidiction telling us that they have been interacting with him for several months at a local night club where he works security. He has been seen open carrying a firearm and purporting himself to be a "Reserve Officer" with our department. We have no such reserve program. I guess it all finally came to a halt, they have arrested him and charged with open carrying of a firearm and also the impersonating charge. Not sure how it is gonna pan out in the end, but he has lost his job both with us and with the security company that contracted here.

2wheelDuke
02-25-2012, 03:19
I forgot, on of our cops noticed another one carrying an airsoft in a duty holster, same location.

I encountered one like that a few weeks ago when I responded to a burglar alarm. I took a good approach and noticed an old Civic with a cooler on the roof and a door open. My first though was construction workers, and maybe the alarm was accidental. I get a better angle on the car and see that it's occupied. The guy is in the passenger seat wearing a security uniform, his head is leaned back and he's snoring loud. I noticed that he had a gun belt, and his holster is unsnapped.

I was weighing my options as to how I'd wake him up when I noticed it was a cheap air soft gun that didn't fit the holster too well. I finally made enough noise to wake him up and the language barrier was so bad that it wasn't even worth trying to talk to him any more.

GumbyDammit
02-26-2012, 00:53
We had a ~19 yr old kid in a retired black/white cruiser with a couple of antennas that would always "happen' to drive by when we had a hot call or traffic stop. I figured he had a scanner in his car so I started calling for someone to tail him every time he came by. I wanted him to hear we were watching him. After I started doing that he didn't show up very often.

I did stop him real late one night because he was driving really slow through the neighborhood where a couple of our Sgt's live. He and his girlfriend were "just looking for anything suspiscious". He had a Surefire light, 5.11 pants and a red filter over his dome light. I told him he was something suspiscious and if he ever wanted to be a cop he had better cut the crap or no one would hire him. He must have moved or gotten the point because I haven't seen him for a long time.

GumbyDammit
02-26-2012, 00:58
BTW - One last summer when my 14yr old son and I were buying fireworks. There was a guy in full fatigues walking through the crowd. People were nodding to him and saying thanks (it was the 4th of July after all). My kid says something sarcastic which was unlike him. I started to get on him about it and he said "The guys a poser dad, his insigna are from Call of Duty" (video game). Getting called out by a 14yr old, I had a pretty good laugh at that one.

madmike3668
02-26-2012, 23:35
Best thread ever!!! Please keep them coming. LMAO!!

ateamer
02-27-2012, 00:26
I work for a Port Aurthority Police Department. during the times that a cruise ship is docked at a terminal, we transfer the responsibility for the terminal to one of two private security compaies who screen the oncoming passenger, luggage, etc. One of the companie had a whacker in their employ, always talking aboout guns and how he wants to be a cop and is going to go to the academy, etc. Actually, a nice enough kid, he is just eaten up with it. HE also works for the Police Department in a civilian capacity. We hire people in a security guard position to staff the two intermodal gates entering the port.

One evening a get a call from a neighboring jursidiction telling us that they have been interacting with him for several months at a local night club where he works security. He has been seen open carrying a firearm and purporting himself to be a "Reserve Officer" with our department. We have no such reserve program. I guess it all finally came to a halt, they have arrested him and charged with open carrying of a firearm and also the impersonating charge. Not sure how it is gonna pan out in the end, but he has lost his job both with us and with the security company that contracted here.
Open carry would have prevented th...uh, never mind.




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steveksux
02-27-2012, 01:03
Reserve bouncer?
why not? For people want to do it part time, but already have a career as a 7-11 clerk.

Randy

steveksux
02-27-2012, 01:48
Anyway, I know over several years a couple of the VFD members were caught & charged with arson for setting fires and then responding to them. Ironically enough you can find many similar stories in other states. These folks have a yearning for fire and when there hasn't been one, they decide to light something up that was abandoned or broken down just so they can show up and fight it. Weird.
When I was in my 20's, on the way home from the bar, saw lots of smoke, went to check it out, drove past the local drug store on fire. Did a U turn to head back towards my house, which took my past the drug store again. My house was about 3 blocks down, 1 block over. Turns out someone set the drug store on fire, and drove away in a small blue car. Kind of like mine.

By the time I got home, had a bunch of cop cars screeching up to me from both directions (lived on the corner).

Took a few minutes to sort out that I wasn't the droid they were looking for.

Short story long, turns out it was a Detroit fire fighter that set the blaze, drove home in his little blue car, then put on his stuff to respond to the fire, and in the process grabbed a whole bunch of drugs that were worth serious bucks on the street. Started the fire to cover up the robbery. Pretty ingenious. Except for the getting caught part. Never heard details of how he got caught, the story was in the paper.

Randy

steveksux
02-27-2012, 01:58
Not something I would proudly display on my webpage for sure...Who's the rapper on the right posing with the hot security guard? He looks familiar....

Baby got back, that's for sure...

Randy

Panzergrenadier1979
02-27-2012, 06:53
Who's the rapper on the right posing with the hot security guard? He looks familiar....

Baby got back, that's for sure...

Randy

There is a pic of the rapper Nelly on the home page. I couldn't find ANYTHING resembling a "hot security guard" so I might be mistaken. :whistling:

random southpaw
02-27-2012, 10:49
After I got out of the army, I got married and then went to college. While in college, I worked part time as a security guard at a local girl's school.

There were two other guys I worked with. One was a retired cop; he was cool--never any issue with him.

The other was a cop wannabe. I saw how he acted and his deep affection for police gear, police talk (10 codes), etc. and I just could not believe that this guy appeared to have a case of arrested development over his absolute fixation of all things to do with police/military.

I never saw him cross over the line, so to speak, but this thread brought that memory back to me--had to share it.

lawman800
02-27-2012, 11:49
When I was in my 20's, on the way home from the bar, saw lots of smoke, went to check it out, drove past the local drug store on fire. Did a U turn to head back towards my house, which took my past the drug store again. My house was about 3 blocks down, 1 block over. Turns out someone set the drug store on fire, and drove away in a small blue car. Kind of like mine.

By the time I got home, had a bunch of cop cars screeching up to me from both directions (lived on the corner).

Took a few minutes to sort out that I wasn't the droid they were looking for.

Short story long, turns out it was a Detroit fire fighter that set the blaze, drove home in his little blue car, then put on his stuff to respond to the fire, and in the process grabbed a whole bunch of drugs that were worth serious bucks on the street. Started the fire to cover up the robbery. Pretty ingenious. Except for the getting caught part. Never heard details of how he got caught, the story was in the paper.

Randy

Didn't he get caught because you planted some of the loot in his car and blamed it on him?:whistling:

m2hmghb
03-25-2012, 06:48
I couldn't resist posting this one, it's an Adam 12 episode called the Million Dollar Buff

http://www.hulu.com/watch/46159/adam-12-million-dollar-buff#x-0,vepisode,1,0

Vigilant
03-25-2012, 08:21
Crappy dial-up at the house and no time to wrestle with it, but I'm pretty sure this is one of the two episodes I actually remember, about the big boy with a goatee and Caddy who liked to dazzle Reid and Malloy with all his 'cop stuff', including his thumb cuffs, right? He ended up placing two kids under Citizens Arrest for allegedly stolen wheels that were actually theirs, and he took a ride down town in the back seat.

Adam 12 was good stuff.

Slinger646
03-25-2012, 09:06
I worked in private security for a few years before I got picked up by the SO Aux. and subsquently a local PD.

We had this guy who started working for us who was a total tool, the Ranger/SEAL who served on a SWAT team "from the city". He drove a CVPI all decked out with No-Show LEDs. He was quickly promoted and started pulling all sorts of LE shenanigans as a rent-a-cop. My partner and I, who both wanted to go into LE and wanted nothing to do with any BS that would hurt our chances did some digging. Turns out this wingnut was involved in the GreekFest Riots of '89 in VA beach. It seems he put on a police shirt and went a-ridin' into town, a-whompin' and a-whippin' every livin' thing that moves within an inch of its life.

After that, he stopped girls on Rt.44 in a old caprice to give them "warnings"

He was convicted and somehow forged his state creds to do security work.

I used the positive relationships I built with the local LE to put an end to his BS, but not before I called him out on his crap and got myself fired.

A few years later, he bounces to another county, this time selling police gear..His POV was his "demo" CVPI dressed to the 9's. With a phone call to an academy buddy, they pick him up for violation of court order prohibiting him from possessiong any police equipment, even his car. I assume a regular crown vic would be ok. :whistling:

Last I heard he was residing with DOC.

Ftttu
03-25-2012, 16:08
Years ago, I responded to some call at one of our truck stops which involved a vehicle. When I arrived, the security guard/reporter gave me the information of the vehicle involved. I don't know how I kept it in at the time, maybe out of respect for his age, but I wanted to laugh so badly when he rattled off his own version of the phonetic alphabet while giving the vehicle' registration. I remember he used "bumble bee" for "B" and other similar goofy words for the rest.
Another truck stop guard from another security company made me laugh just looking at him. He was short, fat, ears stuck out, he wore a smokey hat and a brown duty belt, the type where you put individual rounds in like a bandolier. Because of that belt, you could see the actual bullets which appeared to have been made by melting lead in his kitchen due to their odd shapes. I saw him a few times in his security capacity but I really really got a shock when he turned up as a municipal judge of a small town. He was really ridiculous and ridiculous looking.

blueiron
03-26-2012, 01:36
I couldn't resist posting this one, it's an Adam 12 episode called the Million Dollar Buff

http://www.hulu.com/watch/46159/adam-12-million-dollar-buff#x-0,vepisode,1,0

It would be nice to see a well dressed whacker. The poor hygiene, trashed uniform items, and lack of fashion sense was hard to take.

If one must impersonate, one should at least look good doing it.

m2hmghb
03-26-2012, 02:15
It would be nice to see a well dressed whacker. The poor hygiene, trashed uniform items, and lack of fashion sense was hard to take.

If one must impersonate, one should at least look good doing it.

Another episode involving the same actor had him as a retired police officer from NYC that had shot and killed 3 people in the line of duty and was retired "because he liked it to much". I guess they thought the guy had the right look.

ChinaCave
03-27-2012, 12:38
Had a whacker show up at my HQ in full black BDU's with Security badge/patches..... and a black campaign hat with silver badge. They wanted to know if we needed any assistance with things... :drillsgt:

I would think that all the toilets need to be scrubbed.










After a few weeks on the job, you can promote him and give him a brush...

AngryEskimo
03-28-2012, 06:18
A whole company of whackers! What is this, an epidemic?

http://www.statewidepatrol.com/images/14601226.png

I use to work for these idiots in Dallas for 9 months. Most of my wacker stories came from employees of this company.

lawman800
03-28-2012, 09:20
Must be like you're trapped in some bad episode of Twilight Zone.

Rabbi
07-19-2012, 15:01
I feel the need to bumb this so it may amuse me more!

Veedubklown
07-20-2012, 13:23
Tagged for laughs

Derrin33
07-20-2012, 22:55
Our local Emergancy Managment guys are great around here, always very helpful, until...about 3 years ago one of them was using his issued pick-up to conduct traffic stops. He had a large german shepard in the truck and would tell people if they didn't act right they was going to bite them. He screamed and threated people. Well the local PD got to him and he ended up getting some county time if I remeber correctly. Now, I've worked for Oklahoma DOC and now work as a Detention/reserve deputy for the local SO. I've seen these types all over. It really does blow my mind.

CLoft239
08-06-2012, 04:06
Bump for more laughs

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Unistat
08-06-2012, 11:59
Well I have a little something to keep it going. It may not be a full on whacker, but it's pretty close. As I'm a jailer, I only get to hear these stories second-hand.

Last night an officer saw a CVPI cruise by a felony stop by a neighboring city near our border. The CVPI slowed down & lit up the neighbor cops with the spotlight before taking off.

Our officer sees this and is like "WTF?!" He follows thinking that maybe they are looking for different stop to assist. He follows to assist himself, when the erratic driving starts. Now he is thinking that somebody needs to call these guys' lieutenant for a split second before he realizes it's a non-cop CVPI.

Turns out to be an OUI & his passenger who is high on synthetic narcotics. The OUI was Superdrunk (.22) and his buddy was a drooling mess (muscle relaxants.) They were driving in grandpa's surplus CVPI.

Our officer declined to charge them with impersonating since it was a little ambiguous and they were going to be hosed on the other charges.

blueiron
08-06-2012, 13:40
Googling "whacker" gave me this result -

http://www.whackerusa.com/

Talk about embracing the suck!

CLoft239
08-06-2012, 14:40
Googling "whacker" gave me this result -

http://www.whackerusa.com/

Talk about embracing the suck!

According to the site:

Whacker: \Whack"er\, n.
1. Any emergency personnel who loves what they do and is dedicated to helping others.
2. Anyone who loves police lights or LED light bars.

Um... how bout, no? Just... no...

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blueiron
08-06-2012, 15:03
#2? Absolutely.
#1? No _______ way!

jph02
08-06-2012, 18:51
Googling "whacker" gave me this result -

http://www.whackerusa.com/

Talk about embracing the suck!
They sell knock-off ChiCom crap, so they suck twice as bad.

jph02
08-06-2012, 18:58
Here's a whacker picture to share. Don't know what she does with this car, but it didn't have a lightbar the first couple times I saw. The black and gold stripes are standard livery on Sheriff's cars in MI; this surplus car is missing the usual door graphics and county name that you'd find on an in service unit. I love the pushbar, too; it's a nice touch.

lawman800
08-06-2012, 19:33
Found a whacker mobile today at a local fast food joint. All blacked out, tinted all around, push bars, antenna farm, spotlights, etc. Should have taken a pic and checked for the driver inside but it was 107F today... screw that... I'm staying indoors.

blueiron
08-06-2012, 19:39
Here's a whacker picture to share. Don't know what she does with this car, but it didn't have a lightbar the first couple times I saw. The black and gold stripes are standard livery on Sheriff's cars in MI; this surplus car is missing the usual door graphics and county name that you'd find on an in service unit. I love the pushbar, too; it's a nice touch.


Looks like Uzbeki Highway Patrol.

blueiron
08-06-2012, 19:41
Found a whacker mobile today at a local fast food joint. All blacked out, tinted all around, push bars, antenna farm, spotlights, etc. Should have taken a pic and checked for the driver inside but it was 107F today... screw that... I'm staying indoors.

107*???

I thought you were on Marina Del Rey harbor and bikini patrol!

lawman800
08-06-2012, 19:46
107*???

I thought you were on Marina Del Rey harbor and bikini patrol!

My bicycle patrol gig, a la "Pacific Blue", was pulled when I dropped down to 135 pounds.:crying:

Mrs.Cicero
08-06-2012, 20:54
Somehow I missed this thread 'til today, and I needed the laughs, thank you. But you are making me paranoid about driving Grandpa's '96 CV around. 'Course, mine has kiddie car seats and a tow pkg instead of lights and bull bars. And Mr.C rolled his eyes at me when I said we should trade it in for the pickup I want... he said my car is too rusty to be mistaken for anything except the mom-mobile, and I have to drive it 'til it dies... sigh.

I have to admit it is more fun to drive than the minivan ever was. Don't tell anyone I said that.

Mrs.Cicero

CLoft239
08-06-2012, 21:19
I have to drive it 'til it dies... sigh

Mrs.Cicero

Lol that might take awhile. From my experience with crown vics, they're mechanical beasts that just won't die. Assuming scheduled maintenance is kept up. I used to work for a small municipality, and one of the vics had 390K on odometer. Aside from the 2 new chargers, it was the strongest unit in the fleet.



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Mrs.Cicero
08-07-2012, 06:52
Lol that might take awhile. From my experience with crown vics, they're mechanical beasts that just won't die. Assuming scheduled maintenance is kept up. I used to work for a small municipality, and one of the vics had 390K on odometer. Aside from the 2 new chargers, it was the strongest unit in the fleet.

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Figures. It only had 36K on it when Grandpa stopped driving (he was 95). He sold it to us a year and a half later (it sat in his garage all that time). So we had to replace hoses, etc. Four years later, it has 120K on it, and we've had to put some money into it, but it's running great. And, um, fast. I have to use the cruise control everywhere, because it is too easy to go faster than I think I'm going because it is so much smoother than my previous vehicles. The only thing that bothered me about it was the RWD in the snow/on ice the first winter we had it. Took some getting used to.

Mrs.Cicero

TKM
08-07-2012, 14:37
This is pretty damn weird.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/roy-antigua-stash-ids-coast-guard-cia-florida-135837544.html?_esi=1

CLoft239
08-07-2012, 14:57
This is pretty damn weird.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/roy-antigua-stash-ids-coast-guard-cia-florida-135837544.html?_esi=1

Why are these guys always getting caught DUS or DUI/DWI?

We had a local whacker a while back that got hooked up for being DUS. With all the money sunk into his whacker-mobile, you woulda thought that he coulda paid to get his license reinstated.

Logic (to me anyways) says if you're gonna be whacking it, you might wanna do your best to be on the up and up. (No pun intended). They try so hard to be legit, except for the legal aspect.

Panzergrenadier1979
08-07-2012, 17:30
A security guard tries to get a freebie at McDonalds and hilarity ensues. :supergrin:

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/security-guard-cited-impersonating-officer-demandi/nQCnR/

I wonder how many eligibility lists this clown's name is on? :whistling:

BigLaw
08-07-2012, 17:45
We've got a guy that drives an older bodystyle CV. In the front he has a Radio Shack dummy security camera mounted to the headliner that hangs down by the rearview mirror. On the dash there is some kind of box with a number dial that has a pop can covered in black tape stuck to the side of it. In the center of the dash there is one of those clear slow flashing strobes like you see on the top of a school bus or mail truck. In the back glass he has another black tape covered pop can and strobe. This strobe has green see thru film covering it. The back bumper has an old Dare bumper sticker along with a new Click it or Ticket sticker. Hes got 3 magnet mount cb antennas on the trunk as well as a few old cell phone antennas. The dude will sit in a parking lot and wait for a few people to be walking to their cars and tear out like
hes after somebody. We've not got any calls that hes pulling people over but I would say its coming.

Ship A'Hoy
08-07-2012, 17:54
A security guard tries to get a freebie at McDonalds and hilarity ensues. :supergrin:

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/security-guard-cited-impersonating-officer-demandi/nQCnR/

I wonder how many eligibility lists this clown's name is on? :whistling:

That's right in my backyard.

lawman800
08-07-2012, 19:22
We've got a guy that drives an older bodystyle CV. In the front he has a Radio Shack dummy security camera mounted to the headliner that hangs down by the rearview mirror. On the dash there is some kind of box with a number dial that has a pop can covered in black tape stuck to the side of it. In the center of the dash there is one of those clear slow flashing strobes like you see on the top of a school bus or mail truck. In the back glass he has another black tape covered pop can and strobe. This strobe has green see thru film covering it. The back bumper has an old Dare bumper sticker along with a new Click it or Ticket sticker. Hes got 3 magnet mount cb antennas on the trunk as well as a few old cell phone antennas. The dude will sit in a parking lot and wait for a few people to be walking to their cars and tear out like
hes after somebody. We've not got any calls that hes pulling people over but I would say its coming.

I'd follow him as he leaves and then when he parks in a new lot, I'll ask him what's up and see what federal alphabet agency he allegedly works for.

GumbyDammit
08-07-2012, 22:44
We've got a guy that drives an older bodystyle CV. In the front he has a Radio Shack dummy security camera mounted to the headliner that hangs down by the rearview mirror. On the dash there is some kind of box with a number dial that has a pop can covered in black tape stuck to the side of it. In the center of the dash there is one of those clear slow flashing strobes like you see on the top of a school bus or mail truck. In the back glass he has another black tape covered pop can and strobe. This strobe has green see thru film covering it. The back bumper has an old Dare bumper sticker along with a new Click it or Ticket sticker. Hes got 3 magnet mount cb antennas on the trunk as well as a few old cell phone antennas. The dude will sit in a parking lot and wait for a few people to be walking to their cars and tear out like
hes after somebody. We've not got any calls that hes pulling people over but I would say its coming.

Oh what I would pay for a fish in a barrel like that!! I would drive by him 100 times a day and chirp my tires every time. You know it wouldn't take long to get a bite :supergrin:

BTW - What do you guys think of this: there is a local security company that just popped up and the side of their cars say something like "staffed by off duty police officers". I've heard that not all of them are LEO but regardless I don't like the advertizing.

Rabbi
08-07-2012, 22:59
BTW - What do you guys think of this: there is a local security company that just popped up and the side of their cars say something like "staffed by off duty police officers". I've heard that not all of them are LEO but regardless I don't like the advertizing.

I think it is bad idea, even if they are all off duty cops and an even worse idea if some of them are not.

My question is this, Do "Off duty" cops work at security companies where you are at?

Around here, plenty of Officers work off duty securuty jobs but they do so as LEO's and at the much higher off duty LEO rate. There is no need for an officer to work a job that can be staffed by a 10 dollar an hour non LEO security guard.

lawman800
08-08-2012, 07:35
I think it is bad idea, even if they are all off duty cops and an even worse idea if some of them are not.

My question is this, Do "Off duty" cops work at security companies where you are at?

Around here, plenty of Officers work off duty securuty jobs but they do so as LEO's and at the much higher off duty LEO rate. There is no need for an officer to work a job that can be staffed by a 10 dollar an hour non LEO security guard.

Not a practice seen much at all in SoCal. Heard in other parts of the country that off duty guys work security gigs in police uniform even... very strange.

Over here, you're off, your uniform is off. You do not wear that when not representing the agency.

I'M Glockamolie
08-08-2012, 08:10
Not a practice seen much at all in SoCal. Heard in other parts of the country that off duty guys work security gigs in police uniform even... very strange.

Over here, you're off, your uniform is off. You do not wear that when not representing the agency.

I can attest that off-duty gigs are worked in uniform in Texas all the time, from working a road construction site to a bar.

CLoft239
08-08-2012, 08:41
I can attest that off-duty gigs are worked in uniform in Texas all the time, from working a road construction site to a bar.

Same here in Oklahoma, sometimes even in a marked unit if just sitting on a property. Construction sites, schools (after hours), and banks are just a few that use uniformed off-duty officers in their marked units.

Can't beat a minimum going pay of $25/hr and up! :thumbup:

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Ftttu
08-08-2012, 08:43
I can attest that off-duty gigs are worked in uniform in Texas all the time, from working a road construction site to a bar.

In '91 and '92, I was working motorcycle funeral escorts for another officer who owned the company. We were allowed by our agency to work the funeral escorts but we couldn't use our agency uniform while doing so. We got generic Texas Peace Officer badges and patches and used them on a uniform we got at a local uniform store. I got the same respect/disrespect as if I was wearing my regular uniform. Policy has changed and we can now wear our agency uniform.

Anytime we work part times, we have to fill out a request and have it signed by the immediate supervisor and the LT. It is pretty much a policy formality and rarely are the part time requests denied.

Ftttu
08-08-2012, 08:47
Same here in Oklahoma, sometimes even in a marked unit if just sitting on a property. Construction sites, schools, and banks are just a few that use uniformed off-duty officers in their marked units.

Can't beat a minimum going pay of $25/hr and up! :thumbup:

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Our policy states we can't use our unit for part times but for special State gigs like working construction sites for Texas DOT, that is waived since it is state money and not private sector. Before this latest policy change, we were able to use them but then they tightened it down to only being able to use them if you were on-call like our STIs.

CLoft239
08-08-2012, 08:54
Our policy states we can't use our unit for part times but for special State gigs like working construction sites for Texas DOT, that is waived since it is state money and not private sector. Before this latest policy change, we were able to use them but then they tightened it down to only being able to use them if you were on-call like our STIs.

Most of the times the officer just parks it and goes inside the building or roughs out the weather. Of course, each department's policy is going to vary, but the one's I've seen allow the use of units is more than "financially set" and have a nice budget.

We can wear/use our uniform/unit if in our jurisdiction (county). Most side gigs are provided by the agency, and they put out memos whenever gigs are available. I'm looking forward to the OU Sooners football season; we're lined out for a sweet gig for the home games. Can't beat getting paid to keep the peace & watch OU stomp some tail at the same time!

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Rabbi
08-08-2012, 09:03
Not a practice seen much at all in SoCal. Heard in other parts of the country that off duty guys work security gigs in police uniform even... very strange.

Over here, you're off, your uniform is off. You do not wear that when not representing the agency.

I am not saying that the Police (in Texas) dont work off duty security jobs. I am saying they do it as LEO's. Uniform and al (although some agencies make you wear an ambiguous uniform that has "peace officer" patches and not your agency patch)

My point was, Police around here dont work as "security guards" in the sense that you actually hire a 10 dollar an hour security guard for. When Police work, their rate is 25+++. So again, there in no need for them to work regular security jobs. They are simply cops.

CLoft239
08-08-2012, 09:10
My point was, Police around here dont work as "security guards" in the sense that you actually hire a 10 dollar an hour security guard for. When Police work, their rate is 25+++. So again, there in no need for them to work regular security jobs. They are simply cops.

We have security companies here that try to hire police officers for security guard pay, but I've yet to meet an officer who has taken a job with them. All they want us for is for a marketing tool anyways...


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Rabbi
08-08-2012, 09:16
We have security companies here that try to hire police officers for security guard pay, but I've yet to meet an officer who has taken a job with them. All they want us for is for a marketing tool anyways...

Yeah, pretty much what I have been (poorly) trying to say. There is no need for the Police to do it.

GumbyDammit
08-08-2012, 09:19
I am not saying that the Police (in Texas) dont work off duty security jobs. I am saying they do it as LEO's. Uniform and al (although some agencies make you wear an ambiguous uniform that has "peace officer" patches and not your agency patch)

My point was, Police around here dont work as "security guards" in the sense that you actually hire a 10 dollar an hour security guard for. When Police work, their rate is 25+++. So again, there in no need for them to work regular security jobs. They are simply cops.

Occasionally a local business will contract with our dept to have uniformed officers at an event, but I do know guys who work those $10 hr "security" jobs as a side gig.

Rabbi
08-08-2012, 09:24
Occasionally a local business will contract with our dept to have uniformed officers at an event, but I do know guys who work those $10 hr "security" jobs as a side gig.

Sure, Officers work security jobs all the time around here. But again they do it for the Police rate and I dont know of that many who do it through a security company, for any wage. There is no need. They are independent contractors.

Many of the agencies around here have a system (some have a persont they pay to handle the volume of requests) to handle incoming requests for off duty Officers.

Almost all off duty gigs come from/through the agency, through other cops. (a cop gets a lock on all security gigs at a local store, so he ends up setting up everything for coverage) or through your own hustle. (you find your own gig)

GumbyDammit
08-08-2012, 09:26
There is no need for the Police to do it.

Agreed, I don't like it, makes them look like whackers (back on topic, sorry for the derail :)

AZL
08-08-2012, 10:52
Not all reserves are whackers either. lol I went from reserve, to full time, and then back to reserve when I was not making enough to pay my wonderful ex all of the child support she required. I am a trauma rn full time and still work reserve to keep my inservice hours current. I have been doing it since 2001, first with a large dept and now with a smaller dept where the reserves are needed to function. I have found that the guys who do it for "whackerish" reasons never last long.

Agree. Not ALL reserves are whackers. We had a couple of guys who were very long term...10+ years. One was an engineer with Hughes Missile Systems who made $150K a year and would have been dumb to leave that for what we made. He was one of those guys who did it right, and got to do his "civic duty" four or five nights a month. He was one of the few who were qualled to run a cruiser alone. He had his poop in a pile. Another reserve was a trauma doc at UMC. He was always good to have around your district for obvious reasons. He wanted to be a cop, his surgeon father wanted him to be a doc. He got what he wanted out of his life.

SOME...however...roll eyes, and walk the other way when they come your way. Thankfully I never got stuck with them too often. I was an FTO, so I usually had a rookie with me. On the nights I didn't....I wouldn't let ridealongs or reserves in my car beacause I NEEDED the peace and quiet of a solo tour every so often!

There was one little gal who was a probation officer, who was trying to get into the academy. She would do ridealongs...and she was easy on the eyes...and had her poop in a pile (authorized to carry too). She was a hoot...had a great sense of humor and was smart enough to stay out of the way when I needed her too. Another benefit...she could revoke probation on the spot...lol.

We had one guy who wanted to be a cop so bad, but couldn't/wouldn't shed the 300 extra pounds he was carrying or even get his GED...so he was a "professional security officer for the state"...which meant he worked for the company that had the contract at state buildings. He would introduce himself as a "state officer". He took it upon himself to engage in a foot pursuit of a dangerous fugitive...lol...the guy he was chasing had chained his bicycle to a column outside the MVD. The whacker made it all of 50 yards before he was coughing, spitting up, and on the verge of cardiac arrest. The poor dude with the bike only ran because this hulk scared the crap out of him when he came waddling up to him with his ASP knockoff in his hand.

THEN...there was the CO I arrested...

A clerk at a convenience store (where I got coffee ALL the time)...who was a really decent kid. He was working his way through college, and doing really well. Big, good natured, always friendly with everyone type of guy. Stood about 6'3" weighed in at 250-ish. He was like most big guys...he was NOT a bully, and didn't have anything to prove...so as I said, he was just a real good natured kid.

Anyway...this CO comes in drunk, and hits the kid's car with his door and left a big chinger on it. The kid looked out at it and before he could say anything the Co was all over him, poking him in the chest, grabbing his work shirt, saying he was an off-duty cop and "protected guys like you from getting butt-blanked"...etc...etc...etc...

Anyway...CO leaves, and the kid follows him out to get his plate n umber. The CO jumps on the kid and tries to choke him, and do an eye gouge...and the kid just beats the ever living dog crap out of him. I mean this kid issues a beat-down that would make a momma proud. the kid WHUPPED his ass. WHUPPED. WHUPPED. WHUPPED. I am talking old-fashioned-western-movie-butt-whoopin'.

The video bore out the kid's statement (I believed him anyway, because I saw the kid all the time, and knew how he treated people).

Anyway...I arrested the CO...IN THE ER for impersonating, assault, criminal damage (I wish I could have added stupidity).

NOTE: This is NOT a rant against detention and corrections officers. A LOT of damned good officers got their start in detention and corrrections. This is a rant against this ONE individual jackwagon.

CJStudent
08-08-2012, 14:35
Thanks for the note at the end of that one, AZL, lol. I've seen a lot (mostly when I worked for the state) that were complete and total wackerish tools. Where I'm at now, it's pretty professional, with little to nothing in the way of stupidity (except for "that guy" every agency has, lol).

lawman800
08-08-2012, 20:01
I am not saying that the Police (in Texas) dont work off duty security jobs. I am saying they do it as LEO's. Uniform and al (although some agencies make you wear an ambiguous uniform that has "peace officer" patches and not your agency patch)

Not allowed here... and if anyone wears a generic uniform with a generic badge while working off duty in a visible capacity... he would have a meeting with the brass very soon.

golls17
08-08-2012, 21:03
I posted this a while back, but thought it would work for the thread:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=224616&d=1334789544

Apparently, the registered owner wasn't one driving the vehicle at the time.

Other than that, I'll be a self-proclaimed whacker. I like to listen to scanners on my phone. My wife got mad at me when I dropped her off at home and turned around to make sure a female cop outnumbered 3-1 was OK when I could tell somebody was getting upset. But I will NOT equip my vehicle with lights or anything unless I become volley fire (I'm in an EMT course this fall) and even then won't use them unless absolutely needed. I like shiny objects and reliving my old police days, but lately they're relived by coworkers asking, "is this or that legal":upeyes:

Admittedly, I slow down on traffic stops not so much for safety (although that's 99% of it) but to just check it out and make sure the officer isn't fighting for their life on the side of the road.

Maybe I just am too excited to get back in, but I miss it and am trying to keep my edge without trying to be seen as a true "whacker"...

golls17
08-08-2012, 21:18
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

series1811
08-09-2012, 07:33
Thanks for the note at the end of that one, AZL, lol. I've seen a lot (mostly when I worked for the state) that were complete and total wackerish tools. Where I'm at now, it's pretty professional, with little to nothing in the way of stupidity (except for "that guy" every agency has, lol).

There isn't any agency that doesn't have at least one of them (and I swear I bet we had at least a hundred of them at the last agency I worked for, 6000 sworn). :supergrin:

My theory always, when we had a "Joe Smith" who was like that, was that somewhere, some GS-2 clerk had got the applicant files mixed up, and there was a "Joe Smith" with excellent qualifications, still wondering why he got a rejection letter from us.

CJStudent
08-09-2012, 09:40
There isn't any agency that doesn't have at least one of them (and I swear I bet we had at least a hundred of them at the last agency I worked for, 6000 sworn). :supergrin:

My theory always, when we had a "Joe Smith" who was like that, was that somewhere, some GS-2 clerk had got the applicant files mixed up, and there was a "Joe Smith" with excellent qualifications, still wondering why he got a rejection letter from us.

Then there's the ones with excellent credentials (on paper), but in reality can't find their way out of a wet paper bag.

Bruce M
08-09-2012, 12:13
Agree. Not ALL reserves are whackers. ....

http://www.floridastatetrooper.org/FHPAInformation/CommandStaffBIOs.aspx


Some of these guys seem to have adequate credentials and resumes.

Ship A'Hoy
08-09-2012, 17:42
Wacker alert

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120809_Northwood_taking_the_law_into_its_own_hands_.html


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/cartoons/wacker.jpg

jph02
08-09-2012, 18:26
Wacker alert

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120809_Northwood_taking_the_law_into_its_own_hands_.html


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/cartoons/wacker.jpg
So, if he's a one-man show, what's up with the SGT stripes? And the black band on the badge sure doesn't yell wannabe...

Ohio Copper
08-09-2012, 18:30
So, if he's a one-man show, what's up with the SGT stripes? And the black band on the badge sure doesn't yell wannabe...

Who do those guys talk to with those radios??


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Gombey
08-09-2012, 19:20
Who do those guys talk to with those radios??

Themselves?!

lawman800
08-09-2012, 19:28
Who do those guys talk to with those radios??


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I would never hire him because he shows a serious lack of ambition. If I ran my own show, I would be at least a 5 star general, if not Supreme Allied Commander with 18 stars and mop tops and braids in every color imaginable and fifty hash marks for my 250 years of excellence.

Sergeant, pffttt...

metal
08-09-2012, 19:52
I would never hire him because he shows a serious lack of ambition. If I ran my own show, I would be at least a 5 star general, if not Supreme Allied Commander with 18 stars and mop tops and braids in every color imaginable and fifty hash marks for my 250 years of excellence.

Sergeant, pffttt...

LOL you beat me to it, this guy shows a serious lack of ambition a Sgt? Hell I'd make myself at least a Lutenit:rofl:

deadmanglocking
08-09-2012, 20:38
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Kahr_Glockman
08-09-2012, 21:37
I was going to visit my parents last week and saw a white Dodge Charger slick top with some sort of symbol on the side of it. It was parked in the median facing the southbound lane of Hwy 183 @ MLK here in Austin. I called it in because I KNOW what the area agencies cars look like and it wasn't any of them. It looked like he was trying to "run" radar. Way weird. Austin is weird, but not that weird.

Ironically if there had been a dude wearing a miniskirt and stilleto heels with a pink boa trying to hitchhike I wouldn't have thought twice about it. It is Austin.

GumbyDammit
08-10-2012, 01:45
I see something go down and immediately call 9-1-1.

"go down" that's whacker speak for sure there... or indiciative of his entertainment while taking breaks in the local WalMart parking lot.

4teecal
08-10-2012, 02:19
Wacker alert

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20120809_Northwood_taking_the_law_into_its_own_hands_.html


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/ShipAhoy/cartoons/wacker.jpg

Must have finished his duties as a the "Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas."

blueiron
08-10-2012, 02:26
Must have finished his duties as a the "Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas."


His beat was the food court.

lawman800
08-10-2012, 08:48
20 years of experience in law enforcement — including seven years with the Berks County Fire Police dealing with traffic control, five years with AlliedBarton security services, and as a personal guard for bigwigs at global companies and Disney celebrities including Emily Osment.

This kills me... 20 years... really?

Ohio Copper
08-10-2012, 08:58
This kills me... 20 years... really?

I only saw 12. None of it as a police officer?


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I'M Glockamolie
08-10-2012, 10:04
Ironically if there had been a dude wearing a miniskirt and stilleto heels with a pink boa trying to hitchhike I wouldn't have thought twice about it. It is Austin.

That's enough to tell you to take the other job! :supergrin:

Panzergrenadier1979
08-10-2012, 11:44
Who do those guys talk to with those radios??


The radio has to be a prop. Just like his badge, stripes, and weapon.

How much ya wanna bet he has a BUG stashed away somewhere in that costume?

I wonder if he has to return the uniform to the party store at the end of each "shift"? For an extra couple bucks I'm sure he could rent a smokey bear to go with the rest of the ensemble.... I mean, go big or go home, right?

Such BS. A "real" cop spends his shift in front of a keyboard trying to keep his head above water.

Who am I kidding.....since this guy is in PA then he and I have exactly the same authority to use RADAR. :whistling:

Ohio Copper
08-10-2012, 12:02
The radio has to be a prop. Just like his badge, stripes, and weapon.

How much ya wanna bet he has a BUG stashed away somewhere in that costume?

I wonder if he has to return the uniform to the party store at the end of each "shift"? For an extra couple bucks I'm sure he could rent a smokey bear to go with the rest of the ensemble.... I mean, go big or go home, right?

Such BS. A "real" cop spends his shift in front of a keyboard trying to keep his head above water.

Who am I kidding.....since this guy is in PA then he and I have exactly the same authority to use RADAR. :whistling:

Lmao! Not funny about the smokey bear. I went to a church festival a few weeks ago with the fam. When we left and were walking back to our car I thought that I ha saw a trooper in a parking lot. Since I know most of them where I live I wante to see who it was. Turns up it wasn't an osp trooper, it was a sloppy turd in a security uniform wearing a trooper hat. I lold and just went home.


Was going to snap a pic but my other half talked me out of it.


Wtf goes through their heads?


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Ftttu
08-10-2012, 14:17
I was going to visit my parents last week and saw a white Dodge Charger slick top with some sort of symbol on the side of it. It was parked in the median facing the southbound lane of Hwy 183 @ MLK here in Austin. I called it in because I KNOW what the area agencies cars look like and it wasn't any of them. It looked like he was trying to "run" radar. Way weird. Austin is weird, but not that weird.

Ironically if there had been a dude wearing a miniskirt and stilleto heels with a pink boa trying to hitchhike I wouldn't have thought twice about it. It is Austin.

Could this be it below? Also, I'm from Houston but I only get back there once or twice a year and when I have, I've seen different constable departments running radar in different cars so I have no idea what's out there.

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