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blueiron
12-06-2011, 20:33
http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2011/12/06/20111206phoenix-officers-death-ruled-suicide-police-say.html

trdvet
12-06-2011, 20:56
Hmmmmm

Hack
12-06-2011, 21:42
Sorry, but given the indications of a struggle this just looks too damn convenient for findings.

mj9mm
12-06-2011, 21:50
premature? or convenient?:crying:

janice6
12-06-2011, 21:55
don't see how anyone in his right mind could call this suicide, not with an unexplained second person.

mj9mm
12-06-2011, 21:58
oh makes sense to me, he flung the handgun out after he missed his head with the dang short barrel.

txleapd
12-07-2011, 05:03
IMHO, if there's a question whether it's a suicide or not, it's not.

Panzergrenadier1979
12-07-2011, 06:37
IMHO, if there's a question whether it's a suicide or not, it's not.

This. :shocked:

RocPO
12-07-2011, 07:21
Sounds like a shady decision.

merlynusn
12-07-2011, 08:36
Yeah, I'm not convinced. Too many random things.

Naelbis
12-07-2011, 09:48
Way to much other evidence to claim suicide unless they are willing to claim that he staged the entire scene to make it look like it wasn't. The ME needs to stick to cause of death and let the investigators figure out who caused it.

OXCOPS
12-07-2011, 16:38
I am interested in knowing what the other "signs of a struggle" were.

Most death benefits are not paid out for suicide. So, one could break some stuff inside the car, sit down on the ground, throw your primary across the lot (to make it look like you lost it during the struggle), pull out your backup and fire some rounds down range (to make it appear you were in a gun battle with the suspect). If that was it, I could go along with the homicide option based on a possible staged scene.

However, I am still not sure how to explain off a shotgun blast under the chin to an armed, resisting officer. Was he possibly knocked out during a fight? Multiple attackers? It just seems that this is a very difficult wound to sustain during a fight. I'm curious to know what other signs of a struggle were present.

ray9898
12-07-2011, 16:57
Wow..what a strange story.

Cochese
12-07-2011, 18:11
This is weird.

MeefZah
12-08-2011, 13:11
premature? or convenient?:crying:

It's been months since his death, and I'm sure this has been an exhaustive investigation.

From the article:


The spokesman said the presence of fingerprints, footprints and DNA at the scene of Drenth's death that could not be explained as belonging to any of the people known to be there makes the case remain a mystery.


This was a publicly accessible parking lot, it's entirely possible that someone was there prior to any of this going down, or just after, leaving "evidence" behind.

Other than the quoted passage above, the rest of the description of the scene sounds like it could have been staged by Sgt. Dreth.