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1041TX
12-07-2011, 21:26
All-

About to embark on a new gig with a new agency, FNG time. The new gig does not supply a duty gun and thus it is time to buy something new. I am pretty much set on having a weapon light on whatever I get.

The 1911 is out, unfortunately.

Looking at either the G22 gen4 or G21SF.
Being a lefty, the reversible mag catch is very appealing but I can drop mags just fine with my trigger finger as well. My question is multifaceted:

1. I know the gen 3 G22 doesn't play well with a mounted light. I hear the gen 4 cured this issue. Anyone on board run this setup?

2. I also know there was some grumbling about the reversible mag catch causing issues with inadvertent mag drops while in a holster due to the larger size of the mag catch. Anyone personally experience this?

3. Looking hard at the TLR1 due to simplicity etc. Don't care for lasers, strobes etc. Planning on using a 6280 holster. Any other lights I should be looking at? The X300 looks sweet but is a little rich for my poor blood.


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AngryBassets
12-07-2011, 21:53
We recently went to 4th gen 22's (with an option for 4th gen 23's, which I picked) with the TLR1.

No problems at all.

pointman1531
12-07-2011, 22:46
I currently carry a Gen 4 Glock 22 with a TLR-1 light and rock with a Safariland 6280 holster. No problems here. Fired well over 2000 rounds. I like it. Enjoy!

Cochese
12-08-2011, 01:05
The X300 is around $225 direct from SF with LE pricing, FYI. You need to call them.

arcanetripwire
12-08-2011, 01:55
Dept. issued Gen 4 G22's and I Run a TLR-1 and have had no issues.

LawScholar
12-08-2011, 02:38
Hm. The Gen 3 G22 runs poorly with lights? Bro is a LEO and that's his duty gun, with a TLR1. Should I give him a heads up?

rookie1
12-08-2011, 02:41
I have a G22 3rd gen RTF in a Blackhawk serpa with the blackhawk light. No issues at all.

CanIhaveGasCash
12-08-2011, 03:37
Hm. The Gen 3 G22 runs poorly with lights? Bro is a LEO and that's his duty gun, with a TLR1. Should I give him a heads up?

22's using an older design magazine spring will have FTF issues with a light attached.

rockapede
12-08-2011, 07:49
Hm. The Gen 3 G22 runs poorly with lights? Bro is a LEO and that's his duty gun, with a TLR1. Should I give him a heads up?

Some do. Most don't. It occurs often enough to be worth checking for. Hopefully your brother has fully vetted his weapon system, but it wouldn't hurt to ask him.

1041TX
12-08-2011, 11:33
Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to call up SF and look into the x300 as well....


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rockapede
12-08-2011, 12:26
Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to call up SF and look into the x300 as well....


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Just fyi, when I bought my first tac light, I was in the same boat as you (x300 vs tlr1). I went with the tlr, mainly because of price. It has been used and abused and has been absolutely bulletproof. You really can't go wrong either way.

Morris
12-08-2011, 13:03
Zero issues with my G22G4 and TLR-1S. Hitting 2K rounds as I have been shooting less.

S.O.Interceptor
12-08-2011, 13:04
I chose the TLR1 for the price and couldn't be happier. A couple of guys at work got the different Surefire models, and when it counts, you can't tell the difference. They are nice lights, but way over priced.

Cochese
12-08-2011, 13:09
I have an X300 and X200 as well as two TLR1s.

They all work fine. The SF lights have the added bonus of the DG switch. Now that SL is coming out with their own switches, the gap is closing.

I run a SF X300 at 12 on my rifle. The TLR is a bit taller and the sights are more obscured with it.

Morris
12-08-2011, 13:38
I run a SF X300 at 12 on my rifle. The TLR is a bit taller and the sights are more obscured with it.

Do you find any play with it and are you using the slide lock or the standard plate?

Cochese
12-08-2011, 13:41
Do you find any play with it and are you using the slide lock or the standard plate?

No play. I have the universal adapter on there with the thumb release. Goes on and off easy.

Morris
12-08-2011, 14:20
No play. I have the universal adapter on there with the thumb release. Goes on and off easy.

Okay, I'll try mine again. I had some minimal play which irritated me so it got pulled.

Cochese
12-08-2011, 15:01
Okay, I'll try mine again. I had some minimal play which irritated me so it got pulled.

Make sure the light is assembled correctly. It sounds stupid, but that was my issue. First, it was jiggly. Then, it was almost impossible to get the light off of the rail.

Then I took the whole thing apart and put it back together (the rail attachment and it fits correctly, now.

SCSU74
12-08-2011, 16:02
I would go with the 21sf it is a lot easier to shoot and the recoil feels more like a push than a snap you get with the .40. I run a TLRs and have had 0 issues with about 1200 rds through it. I would get the tlr over the sure fire. It is much cheaper and IMHO a better light. The sure fire is a more focused cone like beam where the tlr really floods a room with light. Several guys on my shift run the sure fire though so you really cant go wrong. If you do order a surefire be sure to email dsg arms they have em for 190 last I checked. Any questions about the 21 or tlr feel free to pm.

Here's my setup:
http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww128/knry0401/photo-1.jpg

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Cochese
12-08-2011, 16:06
...If you do order a surefire be sure to email dsg arms they have em for 190 last I checked...

$275 on their website.

http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/SUFX300.aspx

SCSU74
12-08-2011, 16:08
$275 on their website.

http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/SUFX300.aspx

You need to email them. They have a guy in charge of Leo sales. All the prices on their site are higher then what they sell them to Leo's for.


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Cochese
12-08-2011, 16:09
That is $35 less than SF price. Nice find.

SCSU74
12-08-2011, 16:12
That is $35 less than SF price. Nice find.

Ya they're great guys I bought my rifle and all the accessories from them. Ended up getting the new G2X for like $45


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collim1
12-08-2011, 18:02
I chose the TLR1 for the price and couldn't be happier. A couple of guys at work got the different Surefire models, and when it counts, you can't tell the difference. They are nice lights, but way over priced.

TLR-1 for me also. Not worth the extra money IMO. I am pretty certain I could hammer nails with the TLR-1 and the light would still function.

Big Kev
12-08-2011, 22:04
Hm. The Gen 3 G22 runs poorly with lights? Bro is a LEO and that's his duty gun, with a TLR1. Should I give him a heads up?

I have a 3rd gen with a TLR on it. I have over 2000 rounds through it since the light. I have not had any problems.

snichols28
12-10-2011, 00:50
All-

About to embark on a new gig with a new agency, FNG time. The new gig does not supply a duty gun and thus it is time to buy something new. I am pretty much set on having a weapon light on whatever I get.

The 1911 is out, unfortunately.

Looking at either the G22 gen4 or G21SF.
Being a lefty, the reversible mag catch is very appealing but I can drop mags just fine with my trigger finger as well. My question is multifaceted:

1. I know the gen 3 G22 doesn't play well with a mounted light. I hear the gen 4 cured this issue. Anyone on board run this setup?

2. I also know there was some grumbling about the reversible mag catch causing issues with inadvertent mag drops while in a holster due to the larger size of the mag catch. Anyone personally experience this?

3. Looking hard at the TLR1 due to simplicity etc. Don't care for lasers, strobes etc. Planning on using a 6280 holster. Any other lights I should be looking at? The X300 looks sweet but is a little rich for my poor blood.


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1. I have had mine since April of 2010 when they first came out. Love it. Probably 3500+ rounds deep through it with a TLR attached. Amaaazing shooter.

2. Never had a problem. The big mag release button is one of the best features of the gen4.

3. TLR is very very popular. It's a good price. It's a rock solid light and has proven itself. I have a couple of them.

We have to keep ours aftermarket part free but I can/do carry with a Glock 35 barrel... and a nice shiny polished tip in case a s**t head wants to see his own last smile.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/snichols28/Glock%2022%20Gen4%20Duty/44ddb95c.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f297/snichols28/Glock%2022%20Gen4%20Duty/image.jpg

snichols28
12-10-2011, 00:51
Make sure the light is assembled correctly. It sounds stupid, but that was my issue. First, it was jiggly. Then, it was almost impossible to get the light off of the rail.

Then I took the whole thing apart and put it back together (the rail attachment and it fits correctly, now.

He said jiggly.

Kahr_Glockman
12-10-2011, 05:16
I just ran 100 of .357 Sig and I have shot almost 500 of .40 out my 31 and TLR1 with no problems.

johnnet
12-10-2011, 06:33
Being a lefty, the reversible mag catch is very appealing but I can drop mags just fine with my trigger finger as well.

As a fellow lefty I'd advise against this. As you state, the trigger finger is just as quick (I would argue, quicker) and if you've adapted to it and then, in an emergency situation, have to grab someone elses gun you're likely to fumble a mag drop. That momentary pause could be deadly.

Just my 2 cents.

Aries4570
12-10-2011, 11:43
Does your department supply ammo? If they do I would go with whatever is chambered in that. Our department issues G22 Gen 3's with TLR 1 lights and we have never had a problem.

If it was my choice of handgun and ammo, I would be packing the G21 gen4 with TLR-1.

1041TX
12-10-2011, 17:10
Does your department supply ammo? If they do I would go with whatever is chambered in that. Our department issues G22 Gen 3's with TLR 1 lights and we have never had a problem.

If it was my choice of handgun and ammo, I would be packing the G21 gen4 with TLR-1.

Dept supplies limited training and duty ammo. Looking hard at the G21 gen4.


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DMF
12-10-2011, 22:54
I don't know about the Gen 3 guns, but I've had the opportunity recently to participate in some testing of guns including Gen 4 Glock 22s. We used Surefire X300 lights with those guns, and didn't observe any failures with the lights attached.

FWIW, I actually prefer the TLR-1 switch over the X300, and the TLR-1 is a little brighter than the X300. IMO, I see no reason to pay the extra money for the X300.

Morris
12-11-2011, 08:18
The only issue with the TLR-1 I have is the screw system. But for everything else, it's easily running with the X series.

S. Kelly
12-11-2011, 23:41
I'd jump on a G21 gen4-do it if you can.

blueberry1177
12-17-2011, 12:50
Gen 3 Glock 22 here with Tlr-1s

I love my weapon, no problems with the light as of yet only 200 rounds in so far since I got the light. Hogue grip, skateboard tape on left side of frame for my support hand thumb, and extended mag release. Oh night sights but that is irrelecant to this thread. I feel like it is set up perfectly and tailored to my likes.

To each there own, we aren't allowed anything other than .40 but I am happy with it and can conceal it just fine (without light of course).

TLR-1s for 88 dollars free shipping and a streamlight hat when they had a sale on them one day. I would reccomend them.

http://i42.tinypic.com/52n9sh.jpg