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2otulp
12-11-2011, 15:41
I just started loading for my Mini14 223. I purchased IMR4198 powder. What loads and bullets have you found to have very good accuracy (<.5" MOA at 100yrds)?
I have a bull barrell on my Mini and its accurate within 100yds. I have a post of it in Ruger Forum. Will try to post here.

RustyFN
12-11-2011, 17:25
I load a 55 grain Hornady FMJ-BT with 24.8 grains of H-335 and get this from a stock Rock River carbine at 120 yards.

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bmoore
12-11-2011, 17:28
26.0 or 26.3 grains of Winchester 748 runs well in my AR's

Magelk
12-11-2011, 20:41
I load a 55 grain Hornady FMJ-BT with 24.8 grains of H-335 and get this from a stock Rock River carbine at 120 yards.



Just out of curiosity, why'd you pick 120 yards to shoot at?

freakshow10mm
12-11-2011, 20:57
24.5gr TAC 55gr FMJ.

Ljunatic
12-11-2011, 21:42
I can't quite shoot as good as RustyFN, but my findings concur with his, and my RRA also shoots 55 gr VMAX and Hornady SPP equally well at that loading

RustyFN
12-11-2011, 22:10
Just out of curiosity, why'd you pick 120 yards to shoot at?

The target stands were already set up there. I didn't know the exact distance but figured it was close to 100 yards. Another guy came to shoot and shot the targets with his range finder and told me they were at 120 yards. I belong to a private club and the range doesn't have yard markers.

2otulp
12-11-2011, 22:55
Thanks , you guys are awesome. Keep them coming.
Great shooting rustyfn!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have loads for IMR4198, got a pound of that and 800 rounds to fill.

GIockGuy24
12-11-2011, 23:58
Mt favorite 223 load is 25.0 grains of H-335 with a 55 grain bullet and a magnum primer. Either Remington 7 1/2 or CCI 450 primers. The Winchester, Federal and non-magnum primers have thinner cups and can pierce in 223 rifles. Avoid Federal cases are they are very thin in the case head.

Is your IMR-4198 made in Canada or Australia? The older version is made in Canada and this is the IMR-4198 that most load guides use. The newer version is made in Australia and is the exact same powder as H-4198. Hodgdon claims that interchanging the load data between IMR-4198 and H-4198 is safe though.

DoctaGlockta
12-12-2011, 06:25
24.5gr TAC 55gr FMJ.

Works well for me.

Boxerglocker
12-12-2011, 08:57
24.5gr TAC 55gr FMJ.

Works well for me.

Same here Horandy 55g FMJBT w/c, 24.5g TAC at 2.200 is my go to tactical match load. At 150 yards and closer it's does well enough for me, I don't use a scope with just a red dot or irons can consistently hit the A zone of a USPSA/IDPA target.

I'm going to be getting a new 1-4 scope soon and have been playing around with 62g Sierra match kings with 23.3g of TAC. I'm going to chrono first then check out accuracy after I sight in my rifle with M193 after the scope is mounted.

ColoCG
12-12-2011, 11:03
I load the Hornady 55grain FMJ-BT bullet over 26.5gr. of Hodgdon's BL-C(2) for great accuracy in my AR loaded at 2.225"col.
H335, WW748, and TAC all produce very accurate loads in .223 and meter like water in powder measures. Experiment with these and see which works best for you.

PCJim
12-12-2011, 22:46
I load the Hornady 55grain FMJ-BT bullet over 26.5gr. of Hodgdon's BL-C(2) for great accuracy in my AR loaded at 2.225"col.

That's my standard loading for 55gr too. COL may vary depending upon trim length as I seat to the cannelure.

DanaT
12-13-2011, 09:27
25.9gr Tac - 55gr V-max - 3043ft/sec avg.

In my rifle this load just shoots more accurately than loads above and below it. It seems to have hit the resonance of the barrel.

-Dana

btwiceborn
12-13-2011, 15:22
25.0 gr of Ramshot Tac under a 55gr m193 pulled bullet. I get 1.5 inch groups at 100 yds with 14.5 inch barrel.

JRI
12-13-2011, 16:23
26.8 grains of IMR 4320,I have been using this load for 25 years,from the 3rd edition Hornady reloading manual.

2otulp
12-13-2011, 22:50
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wdphillips
12-15-2011, 07:37
22.5 - 24.0gr IMR 3031. 55gr FMJ.

2otulp
12-31-2011, 09:34
DanaT - your load is way above Ramshot recommendation (max 24.7gr) per their chart. Any details on the rifle you are using and brass.

I when to the range yesterday, I had worked up some loads from 20.5, 20.7-best, 20.9, 21.1 21.3 (10 rounds each) . None all that impressive. I would manage to get a few tight groups but then would have a flyer. See picture below. I plan to go up on the charge to where some of you have provided (>22gr<25gr). This time will only use LC Brass............

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/2otulp/223Mini14IMR4198123011.jpg


Suggestions?

TX expat
12-31-2011, 09:59
I've used Varget (25 gr.) and TAC (24 gr.) in my Mini-14 and both produced very good results. I chose TAC as my primary powder because it's less expensive and it meters very accurately, so I don't need to drop single grains like I did with Varget.

That said, I don't get .5 MOA, but I'm petty much shooting the Mini for combat type of accuracy only. Mine isn't a target model so I don't expect it to drive tacks.

I've used 55 gr. Hornady 55g FMJBT w/c, 55 gr. Montana Gold and M193 pulls. The Hornady were probably the most consistent, but even the cheap military pulls worked well enough for my purposes. I don't think I would recommend them for yours though.

Zombie Steve
12-31-2011, 10:29
Thanks , you guys are awesome. Keep them coming.
Great shooting rustyfn!!!!!!!!
Does anyone have loads for IMR4198, got a pound of that and 800 rounds to fill.

I think the reason you're not having a lot of guys chime in with 4198 loads is because it's pretty quick burning rifle powder. Look on a burn rate chart and look at what others are using - Varget, Tac, 4320, H335.

I'm not saying you can't find an accurate load with 4198, but it's doubtful you'll get the velocity that the medium-slow burning powders will give you.

FWIW, the fastest powder I've ever used for .223 is AA2230. I got good results with the lighter bullets, but I found pressure signs pretty fast with the heavier (69 grain) bullets.

For the 55 grain fmj, I shoot 25 - 25.5 grains of Varget as well (depending on what primer I'm shooting). Accuracy is really impressive.

Start low and work up as always.

BUG'S
12-31-2011, 10:33
Also use H-335 24 grains with a Montana Gold 55 gn FMJ bullet. Very accurate load. Varget also a great powder but I find the H-335 meters much better for me.

2otulp
12-31-2011, 10:49
Zombie Steve - thanks for the feedback. I posted and looked up the burn rates, brilliant minds think alike. IMR4198 Burnrate=88, H4198=86, H335=108, Win748=103, Tac=109, XTerminator=103, Varget-117, 4320=123 ...... Looking into further details on BR numbers Vs accuracy Vs charge (my not be related).

Thanks everyone for your inputs. I have a pound of the stuff and need to consume, given a second chance would by Ramshot TAC..........

I will keep posting information as an FYI.......

fredj338
12-31-2011, 12:15
I finally got to the range to runs some test laods in my AR. I ran H322, TAC & AA2520. I was really impressed w. the acuracy of the AA2520 loads. I need to run the TAC loads again, it was a pretty windy day.

2otulp
12-31-2011, 12:23
share you results at 100yards. Also, primer type, grain of powder and bullet grains and manufacture. thanks.

2otulp
12-31-2011, 12:24
BUG's - thanks for the details. Appreciate the information. Keep it coming. Next time to the range post the paper results. Thanks again.

2otulp
03-04-2012, 08:03
FYI, created some loads with Varget 25-25.5gr using V-Max bullets on 223 case. Results not stable that H4198. As everyone suggested here , they are once again correct. No paper results to show this time. Thanks all. I want to try RamShot TAC next .

Boxerglocker
03-04-2012, 09:03
I finally got to the range to runs some test laods in my AR. I ran H322, TAC & AA2520. I was really impressed w. the acuracy of the AA2520 loads. I need to run the TAC loads again, it was a pretty windy day.


When I first stared loading .223 I used a couple pounds of AA2520 that I bought locally and found that also to be the case.
This got me thinking to getting another pound to test some 50g Horandy Vmax BTs I just picked up on sale at Midway for the Remington SPS Tactical.
BTW, Fred which manual would you recommend for rifle loads?