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JohnnyReb
12-12-2011, 20:42
What's the dumbest thing you have seen someone fired for? I'm not talking about petty things, but acts that were just so incredibly stupid you don't see how anyone would even consider doing.

We had a guy terminated not long ago, for stealing $40 from the "honor system" jar in our weight room. We have several energy drinks and cliffs bars in the room, and if you take one, you put the appropriate amount in the jar. Over the course of a couple years, money came up missing. A camera was placed in room, and an officer was seen removing money from the jar.

He lost a $50,000 a year job, had a wife and kids, all for $40. Good riddance.

GasTiresOil
12-12-2011, 21:10
Very strange how I was talking about this today with a co worker. You could write volumes about guys that went down over the course of a career. In my short time I have seen an incident involving a prostitute, cocaine use, burglary, assault, and various other sexual encounters that ultimately led to dismissal.

MeefZah
12-12-2011, 21:59
Nearby town had a guy a few years back who stole a cordless phone from a discount store, probably worth $30. He was a detective with almost 20 years on, got fired. :shocked:

alabaster
12-12-2011, 22:07
I got fired for health issues. I had a fever spike one day and fainted in the bathroom. I got hauled to the ER in a meat wagon. While I was in the hospital, I got let-go. The boss had the audacity after to ask me to build him a 1911 with a big price break in it. What a tool.

CAcop
12-12-2011, 22:07
We have had two guys fired for blowing off reports or arrests. Not one or two but repeatedly. They had 12 and 16 years on when canned. Another person tossed some heroin of a suspect. I don't know why. She had other issues. Like threatening her wife's ex-girlfriend with arrest. She was also caught in a few lies. I don't know how she got through the hiring process because people who knew her in HS knew she was a liar back then.

We have cut a few people loose while on probation. I think one was seen flashing gang signs with some of his buddies who were gang members. Another was reported to have made a racial comment on a recorded line. Neither of those clowns have gotten hired by any other agency.

Those are the ones who were fired in my time. I know of one other officer who was fired and was brought back and eventually promoted to Sgt. I have no idea why he was promoted. There were other better candidates and they weren't lops.

TKM
12-12-2011, 22:10
Stealing toilet paper.

Not the full rolls from under the sink, partials from the dispenser.

:dunno:

DaBigBR
12-12-2011, 22:26
Brand new guy, in the academy, goes to Victoria's Secret and tries on women's underwear. Then asks clerk's opinion. Clerk is fiancee of state narcotics agent. Somehow the guy's occupation is discovered. Gone.

Well liked academy instructor, retired from active LE with gunfight experience (and the holes to prove it) gets caught shoplifting wine from a grocery store. Gone. Teaching at a community college now.

Those are probably the two dumbest, but there are plenty of others.

G27Chief
12-12-2011, 22:53
One baron made some photo copies while lying on the glass face down w/o benefit of fabric. Idiot left some in the tray, with a clear image of his high-school ring as he had his hand in place to enhance the image. Working security at a rendering plant last I heard.

indigent
12-12-2011, 23:04
Ummm Lets see. The list might include:

Theft
Bringing inmates tobacco
DWI
Public displays of male parts
"Extra Curricular" activities with inmate while on the clock
"Extra Curricular" activities with other staff while on the clock
Lying on reports

And the best.....

When your wife turns up dead in your house........ Yup, he's in prison.

Agent6-3/8
12-12-2011, 23:12
Around here it usually involves drinking, women, thinking with the wrong head and it getting so out of hand the department(s) can't ignore it, sweep it under the rug or transfer it away.

I know one guy that got fired from a small city PD here for stealing gas. Never fear though, he got hired as a chief in a small nearby eastern KY city...:upeyes:

blueiron
12-12-2011, 23:30
We had a guy who was assigned a vehicle as a Commercial Vehicle Enforcement Specialist. He was the only person authorized to drive it and he was required to park it in the underground parking garage at the main station.

He pulls in one day and backs the truck in. In doing so, the guy backs into a steel armored concrete pillar. It damages the truck and he gets out and looks at it.

He concludes his day and goes home. He finishes out the week and reports nothing to his boss and to the department. Unbeknowst to him, the IA supervisor was in the parking garage and saw the entire incident. She waited for the IA paperwork to cross her desk and after a week when it failed to be reported, she inquired to the traffic unit supervisor.

When asked, the long term officer denied the entire event and personally blamed another officer for doing it. He was given numerous opportunities to retract his false accusations and admit to the accident - being told that with no other discipline on his record, he would only get a written reprimand. He refused and demanded to confront the witness against him and called that employee a blatant liar. When the IA supervisor appeared against him, he tried to retract it all. Too bad, too late - he was fired for about $600 worth of damages.

Why the department didn't go after his certification for lying in an investigation and having him sanctioned with being put on the Brady list, is beyond me.

Trigger Finger
12-13-2011, 00:49
We have had officers and detectives fired for about anything you can think of but the one I seem to remember most was the officer who was fired for not shinning his shoes!!!

This had to be around 75 or 76 and this rumor spread throughout the department like wildfire. It got so bad that all of the watch commanders had to cover this at consecutive roll calls for about two weeks to assure everyone got the true story.

Turns out this officer had about 5 years on the department and had a history of problems. He would argue with supervisors, not appear in court after subpoenaed, occasionally would take the black and white home. He had a history of being very heavy handed with suspects, and would sometimes go on patrol with an AR-15 in the trunk (A huge No-No on LAPD at the time, and still is unless you have received the training and approval). Many of these things he was disciplined for and received suspensions several times.

When he was ordered to shine his shoes at an inspection for about the fifth time and failed to do so he was fired based on a totally of all his misconduct in the past three years.

Good riddance!!

branned
12-13-2011, 00:53
UPS driver backed into scrap metal at a junk yard. No one knew and junk yard owner called mgmt over it:shocked: Dumb if you ask me:upeyes:

smokeross
12-13-2011, 00:56
My brother fired a guy working in refinery, for taking a quart of oil out in his lunch box.

smokeross
12-13-2011, 00:57
I fired a contract dump trucker today for not having a tow chain in his truck. He backed in too deep and then needed MY chain to get yanked out.

Detectorist
12-13-2011, 00:59
D.A.R.E. Officer, I think he was a Major, arrested in front of a H.S. class for trafficking cocaine.

lloydchristmas
12-13-2011, 04:58
Deputy in adjoining county had to pick up her sergeant en route to a call. However, she had to drop off the KANGAROO she was hauling around in the backseat of her squad first.....

CAcop
12-13-2011, 07:27
"Extra Curricular" activities with other staff while on the clock

Really? Around here if at least one person is a Sgt. or higher both parties will make Lt. or higher.

JohnnyReb
12-13-2011, 07:33
Really? Around here if at least one person is a Sgt. or higher both parties will make Lt. or higher.

We had that happen years ago. One now does corrections in a southern state, and the other is now a corporal, and is married to a patrol officer.

When they were caught, they were completely honest and upfront about it. It resulted in demotion.

oldgraywolf
12-13-2011, 07:39
<---NAC

An officer in the town I live near was recently fired for stealing $40 from a wallet that was turned in to the PD. When the owner came to get it, he asked about the money that was in it. Officer admitted taking it. He had about 16 years on the job.

Background: I know said former officer, but not really well. His wife dumped him several years ago and his life took a dive, got into alcohol, other problems with debt and such. He was widely known as a really nice guy, good with kids, decent cop, gave a lot of time to the community.

I also know his chief, belong to a service organization with him. Chief has been dating ex-officer's former wife the last few years. Rough situation and I admit to feeling sorry for the officer.

Hoser423
12-13-2011, 07:52
Lying in accident investigation... he screwed up squad in P.D. parking lot.
(Airbag blew and suspension damage after nailing a sewer cover that was exposed due to repaving.) My dept. is pretty generous and understanding about crashes, IF you come clean.
This was right about the same time his ex-wife was getting harassing phone calls from... drum roll please... all right you guessed it- HIS work phone.

Kadetklapp
12-13-2011, 08:00
We had a full time guy who in his last two weeks of the academy got involved in a domestic and caught a DUI after he left he scene. It got dropped. He went on with life and a year later got caught dead to rights driving drunk the wrong way on a divided highway. He resigned. A year later he gets on another department as a reserve and gets caught driving the marshal's police car around drunk in a campground with a bunch of naked people in it. They find several bottles of controlled scripts in the police car as well.

He gets canned there. Six months later he's in jail for battery and strangulation on his girlfriend.

DaBigBR
12-13-2011, 17:13
Thought of another one...

Gypsy cop that just couldn't hold a job is working at a smaller PD. He has problems with one of his supervisors. He accidentally damages his car, but rather than just own up and move on, he calls in a fake "pursuit" during which he "pursues" the fleeing vehicle in to a corn field and loses it. Then the backup starts arriving...and more backup starts arriving...and finally, a nearby agency's HELICOPTER (the only one in the STATE) arrives. Then he finally admits to it.

Last I heard he was a reserve or part timer somewhere. Just like a bad penny.

Vigilant
12-13-2011, 17:17
The DUMBEST???????

Indigent beat me to it, but......

Having sex with an inmate.

OXCOPS
12-13-2011, 17:22
When your wife turns up dead in your house.........

Hate it when that happens.

CJStudent
12-13-2011, 17:36
The DUMBEST???????

Indigent beat me to it, but......

Having sex with an inmate.

Same here. We had a food service contractor in my old joint walked out in cuffs for it earlier this year. Also had ones at my new joint walked out for bringing phones in for inmates, but that was right before I got here.

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COLOSHOOTR
12-13-2011, 18:03
One of ours involved a prostitute and a Taco Bell bathroom.... You get the picture. Someone at the Taco Bell who thought the cop and protitute spending time in the same restroom was kind of strange took video of them entering and exiting. The video made it's way to IAB and the rest is history. Now he works for a small town PD near by.

Vigilant
12-13-2011, 18:20
One of ours involved a prostitute and a Taco Bell bathroom.... You get the picture. Someone at the Taco Bell who thought the cop and protitute spending time in the same restroom was kind of strange took video of them entering and exiting. The video made it's way to IAB and the rest is history. Now he works for a small town PD near by.

I can hear his new pickup line now:

"Wanna stop by my place for a nightcap and see my bug collection?"

:upeyes:

texmex
12-13-2011, 18:38
This girl worked with my late wife. This guy must be a real ladies man to entice two different female corrections officers while in jail for CAPITAL MURDER. A real lady killer. Literally!

March 5, 2010
A Travis County corrections officer has been charged after authorities say they discovered she had a romantic relationship with an inmate convicted of capital murder and brought him a cell phone while he was jailed.

Tasha Lass, 36 -- a 17-year veteran officer – testified during the punishment phase of Milton Gobert’s trial Thursday that she provided Gobert with a cell phone so he could call her, according to the Travis County Sheriff's Office.

Gobert was convicted last week of fatally stabbing a friend of his ex-girlfriend and seriously wounding her then 5-year-old son.

Lass had already been placed on administrative assignment while investigators looked into allegations she was involved with Gobert.

Lass has now been charged with providing a prohibited item in a correctional facility -- a 3rd degree felony.

Bond was set at $50,000, and she was fired from the Travis County Sheriff’s Office.

Another female corrections officer resigned in 2007 after revealing her relationship with Gobert while he was behind bars.

banger
12-13-2011, 18:42
One guy with a few years on the job, a couple of towns over.

While parked in a secluded area, spots a deer...

Proceeds to pull his service weapon from it's holster (intention not entirely clear)...

The pistol discharges, firing a round through the door of the vehicle....

Goes out onto a highway and call in a chase and reports being fired on...

Gone shortly after.

Line Rider
12-13-2011, 19:14
One officer in the neighboring county was caught on video stealing a small $5.00 LED light from a convenience store where that police department buys gas. When asked about it he lied about the matter.

clancy
12-13-2011, 19:48
Back when Carter was President a friend of mine was a Deputy Sheriff. One afternoon, while having a few beers another guy(not a cop) takes my friend's service revolver and points it at the tv while Carter is giving a speech, and goes bang. My buddy tells him to be careful, that the gun was loaded. The guy says no it's not, holds the pistol to the palm of his hand and pulls the trigger. You guessed it, one .38 caliber hole in the hand, a trip to the ER, and a promising career in law enforcment dashed.

DustyJacket
12-13-2011, 20:38
..while having a few beers another guy(not a cop) takes my friend's service revolver ...

That should have been the end right there.

Hack
12-13-2011, 22:10
Several throughout my years have had inappropriate relationships with inmates, some including sex. Gone when discovered, or shortly after. One was a psychologist with problems, and lived close to a co worker of mine; who was pretty angry about the whole thing. He knew her family on a casual basis, in that they lived close by. She had a husband, and children; and perhaps still has that.

Some others were caught bringing in various contraband, usually drug or tobacco.

But, the easiest to get fired for is for a rookie to lie on a back ground investigation.

smokeross
12-13-2011, 23:53
Caught siphoning gas from the squad car and pouring it into the personal vehicle.

Cochese
12-14-2011, 00:07
The only folks fired at my agencies were the two Muslim dudes. One, for a wicked DV with his wife where the responding cops found him in the corner of the living room in his BVDs, sweating profusely, threatening to bite his wife's tongue out of her head. Super weird. He was somewhat of a role model prior to going off the deep end.

The other was our commander of internal affairs. He got popped for fixing criminal charges for an area business owner he was connected to. He had recently tried to jam me up for some BS that my CLEAT Rep
laughed off. No idea where he ended up. He threw away 18-20 years.

Not sure what they were thinking.

Sniff
12-14-2011, 00:14
One guy a few years ago was celebrating gaining his Detective qualifaction.

Has a whole heap of beers in the station canteen before signing out a set of keys to an unmarked car, going for drive around the city, picking up a (transexual) prostitute and taking her / it for a ride then crashing the patrol car.

Realising that crashing the car might get him in trouble, he returned the car to the station garage, closely followed by other cops who had responded to the calls of his driving style.

Ended his career that night.

series1811
12-14-2011, 05:33
One agent who got fired for being in a bar, unarmed, without his ID, when another agent he was with, got drunk and pulled a gun on a bouncer. Our big boss said he wanted both fired, and demoted the deciding official who wouldn't go along. The agent, instead of fighting it, said he had just had enough of the BS and the stress that the whole thing caused, resigned and went into the private sector for a raise.

After a while, when it comes to crazy admin moves, you have seen so much, there is literally nothing so crazy that you will dismiss immediately as not possibly having happened.

jdh31313
12-14-2011, 08:08
Late 90's, agency in-service...In the classroom in front of instructor, supervisors, fellow co-workers, a co-worker of mine reaches into his pocket to withdraw money and onto the floor falls a small ziplock plastic bag containing a leafy green substance consistent with marijuana. He wasn't charged but was fired and lost POST certification.

Edit- About 2 years ago he attempted to have the suspension lifted in order to regain employment in law enforcement and POST denied his application. I don't know what he is doing now.

pal2511
12-14-2011, 10:13
What's the dumbest thing you have seen someone fired for? I'm not talking about petty things, but acts that were just so incredibly stupid you don't see how anyone would even consider doing.

We had a guy terminated not long ago, for stealing $40 from the "honor system" jar in our weight room. We have several energy drinks and cliffs bars in the room, and if you take one, you put the appropriate amount in the jar. Over the course of a couple years, money came up missing. A camera was placed in room, and an officer was seen removing money from the jar.

He lost a $50,000 a year job, had a wife and kids, all for $40. Good riddance.

Are you saying he should not have been fired or are you7 trying to say it was a dumb thing to do period?

I have seen people do tons of stuff that should have been fired for but not.

tusk212
12-14-2011, 12:54
I have seen people do tons of stuff that should have been fired for but not.

There is one guy that should have been gone 5 times over. The joys of small town policing.

vanilla_gorilla
12-14-2011, 13:03
An "almost" story. I remembered this one because somebody else mentioned the state yanking certification:

Guy who graduated academy the same time I did just recently finished up his hearing before the certification board, in a fight to keep his cert. He followed the approach many of our academy instructors suggested, and used the "shotgun method" for applying to agencies. He sent apps everywhere in the state. Probably 20+ apps in total in a few months. He went to background for one of the agencies, and they figured out somehow that he had missed putting one of the agencies he had applied for onto their paperwork asking for such info. They went after his certification for it, and he finished his hearing recently. He kept his cert, thank God.

Clutch Cargo
12-14-2011, 13:23
The cheif was terminated for being under the influence of hydrocodone while driving.

OXCOPS
12-14-2011, 14:24
Arizona POST issues a bi-monthly "Integrity Bulletin" that details all their disciplinary cases. It makes for an amusing read. Some of the things people do is just....damn.

http://www.azpost.state.az.us/Integrity.htm

OXCOPS
12-14-2011, 14:50
An "almost" story. I remembered this one because somebody else mentioned the state yanking certification:

Guy who graduated academy the same time I did just recently finished up his hearing before the certification board, in a fight to keep his cert. He followed the approach many of our academy instructors suggested, and used the "shotgun method" for applying to agencies. He sent apps everywhere in the state. Probably 20+ apps in total in a few months. He went to background for one of the agencies, and they figured out somehow that he had missed putting one of the agencies he had applied for onto their paperwork asking for such info. They went after his certification for it, and he finished his hearing recently. He kept his cert, thank God.

To me, that's a BG investigator taking it too far. You get the info and ask the candidate for clarification. When he tells you the reason, its done. There was no malicious intent or deceit on the candidate's part. The governing board that heard the case should have sanctioned the investigator for wasting their time.

JohnnyReb
12-14-2011, 15:30
Are you saying he should not have been fired or are you7 trying to say it was a dumb thing to do period?

I have seen people do tons of stuff that should have been fired for but not.

Dumb thing to do peroid.

BULLRUNN
12-14-2011, 18:02
Oh whert to start

Lt Scott 14
12-14-2011, 18:18
Brand new Academy grad, had a marked squad in his parking lot of his apartment, answered his door to a bloody, battered wife from next door. Didn't call medics, department, told lady to" call the PD", I'm off duty. Closed the door while the estranged husband chased her down the stairs screaming for help. Fireman next door opened door, told the guy to" back up" and called the PD.
When the Chief found out, we picked up the squad, badge and creds, gave him a week to consider his stupidity, then let him go. Last I heard he was working at a Home building Center selling roof shingles.

DaBigBR
12-14-2011, 19:23
Arizona POST issues a bi-monthly "Integrity Bulletin" that details all their disciplinary cases. It makes for an amusing read. Some of the things people do is just....damn.

http://www.azpost.state.az.us/Integrity.htm

I used to read those all the time. They are indeed amusing.

clancy
12-14-2011, 20:02
Would you guys consider the following a firing offense?

About 20 years ago I was a bartender in a pretty tough place. To make a long story short, one night the doorman and I got into a bit of a tussle with what began as 2, then became 8 guys. Basically, we got our asses kicked. At one point a town cop car pulled up with 2 cops in it. I remember thinking. "thank God you guys are here". Next thing I know, they were gone. A few very long seconds after that, a NYS Trooper pulls up, and the lone trooper came out with his billy club and waded in without a moments hesitation. The trooper is now the County Sheriff(and you can bet your bippy I voted for him) and one of the town cops is now the police chief, the other the assitant chief.

Vigilant
12-14-2011, 20:56
How about a "supposedly fictitious" female CO who "supposedly" agreed to be "supposedly" gang raped on the job, by a whole room full of inmates, as part of her initiation into the "imaginary" STG? :whistling:

ML Roak
12-14-2011, 21:24
Long story shortened. Dumbest one we have had. Keep in mind, all of this was done through work computers. Both WERE MALE employees.

DB#1, looking for young female attention on the internet.

DB#2, figures out what DB#1 is up to, creates fake young female (14?) identity on internet and hunts-down DB#1 for a hook-up.

DB#1 actually tries to meet-up with Young Female, while DB#2 hides in the area to watch and laugh.

Finally DB#2 thinks this is all so funny that he forwards all of the back and forth between DB#1 and Young female (DB#2) to many co-workers. Whole thing very creepy, copy of emails get forwarded to Shift Sgt. DB#1 & DB#2 fired.

merlynusn
12-14-2011, 21:56
Would you guys consider the following a firing offense?

About 20 years ago I was a bartender in a pretty tough place. To make a long story short, one night the doorman and I got into a bit of a tussle with what began as 2, then became 8 guys. Basically, we got our asses kicked. At one point a town cop car pulled up with 2 cops in it. I remember thinking. "thank God you guys are here". Next thing I know, they were gone. A few very long seconds after that, a NYS Trooper pulls up, and the lone trooper came out with his billy club and waded in without a moments hesitation. The trooper is now the County Sheriff(and you can bet your bippy I voted for him) and one of the town cops is now the police chief, the other the assitant chief.

I'd consider that dereliction of duty. I'd say fire, but bare minimum a 30 day suspension.

Newcop761
12-14-2011, 23:15
This is fairly recent: A Border Patrol agent on the Northern border wants a transfer to the Southern Border so he makes up a story about being run off the road by gangsters threatening to harm his family if he doesn't cooperate. Then he says that he saw the gangsters truck by his house... He plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI and is pending sentencing.

Vigilant
12-14-2011, 23:31
It's not nice to lie to the FBI.....

DaBigBR
12-15-2011, 06:17
This is fairly recent: A Border Patrol agent on the Northern border wants a transfer to the Southern Border so he makes up a story about being run off the road by gangsters threatening to harm his family if he doesn't cooperate. Then he says that he saw the gangsters truck by his house... He plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI and is pending sentencing.

I would figure that the response to a North to South transfer request is "how soon can you move?"

vanilla_gorilla
12-15-2011, 07:19
I would figure that the response to a North to South transfer request is "how soon can you move?"

I'da thought that too.