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BrewerGeorge
12-13-2011, 23:42
Here's an oddball thought I just had that I wanted to get some opinions on.

I'm preparing to have the slide of my Kahr CM9 Cerakoted to cover all that pretty stainless with something more subtle. As I'm trying to decide just which black to order, it occurred to me that other colors might actually be more subtle than black.

I'm not talking something bright, but one of the earth tones like flat dark earth or coyote tan. I carry IWB almost exclusively, and the point is to possibly add a bit of insurance for those times when the coat gaps open or you bend funny and a piece of the pistol peaks out. My thought is that something black or silver at a person's waist has a better chance of making a casual observer think "gun!" than does something brown or khaki. Browns or khakis evoke leather and wood, while black and silver usually mean metal, and it's a short trip from metal to gun. (Cell phones and cases have probably reduced this association a bit, though...) Additionally, I think the lighter khaki colors might have the benefit of being easier to conceal inside light T-shirts because there would be less chance of seeing the dark color behind.

I don't know; I'm just throwing the idea out there to see what everybody thinks. What's your opinion?

Fiery Red XIII
12-13-2011, 23:49
matte black
(just what I'd prefer)...but I'd leave stainless stainless. To each their own my friend. :cheers:

Red

BrewerGeorge
12-13-2011, 23:59
matte black
(just what I'd prefer)...but I'd leave stainless stainless. To each their own my friend. :cheers:

Red
Yeah, black has always been my aesthetic preference, too, and I've never understood the other color thing - with the exception of hunting camo. When Glock introduced the OD frames I didn't get it.

This piece is definitely function over form, though, and I'd color the darn thing brown if I thought it would make people assume it was a belt or something instead of a gun. Even if it would be ugly as sin.

Fiery Red XIII
12-14-2011, 00:05
for that, I would color it as close to the holster and/or belt then. Black matches more things. What state are you in? Are you in a place where a "wardrobe malfunction" exposing your weapon=serious issues? If so, I would also look into concealment options and other clothing fixes too.

Red:thumbsup:

BrewerGeorge
12-14-2011, 00:06
for that, I would color it as close to the holster and/or belt then. Black matches more things. What state are you in? Are you in a place where a "wardrobe malfunction" exposing your weapon=serious issues? If so, I would also look into concealment options and other clothing fixes too.

Red:thumbsup:
I'm in Indiana, so no.

Angry Fist
12-14-2011, 00:08
Any black'll do. I carry NP3+, and love it. But what I really want is a bright copper finish longslide, though.

bad89stang
12-14-2011, 01:12
Leave it alone unless you just feel like throwing money away. Nobody notices the weapon you have on you. If by chance, someone catches a peek of it, who cares. It will be a non issue.

DWARREN123
12-14-2011, 03:21
I like mine to be matte black also but go with what you like. :supergrin:

PolymerPackin
12-14-2011, 03:45
buy ammo

jeffyjeff
12-14-2011, 05:06
go with a nice pastel green.

Bren
12-14-2011, 05:19
Why are people going to be seeing your gun? I figure if it's concealed the color doesn't matter and if you draw it, you want somebody to see it.

Patchman
12-14-2011, 05:42
Bubble gum pink. I'm secure enough to admit liking the colour.

BrewerGeorge
12-14-2011, 07:30
I like mine to be matte black also but go with what you like. :supergrin:

That's the thing, I think the brown and beige guns are kind of ugly, so I'll probably go with Sniper Gray or Graphite Black after all. I never really wanted to go brown, I just wondered if anybody thought that color offered concealment advantages.

jastroud
12-14-2011, 07:38
Tactical blactical is my preference. I had considered the NP3 chrome type treatment for the slide, but my little 26 is beautiful without it.

bruzer
12-14-2011, 07:47
As far as color goes, here is a little chart I found on the net:


green eases stress
orange soothes anxiety
purple relaxes and soothes fears
blue helps overcome hurt

JuneyBooney
12-14-2011, 07:50
Leave it alone unless you just feel like throwing money away. Nobody notices the weapon you have on you. If by chance, someone catches a peek of it, who cares. It will be a non issue.

I agree. A hot pink would be good to really throw people off. :rofl: Most guns are black. Stainless is good but more expensive so gun manufacturers all have them mostly black now. 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Lior
12-14-2011, 08:43
Color is for raceguns, not antipersonnel guns.

Paul53
12-14-2011, 08:57
I can understand wanting to customize your gun. IMHO, Color wont make it shoot any better. If you've got the money to spend, invest in something more function oriented like a trigger mod, or buy more ammo. Maybe a conversion kit to make target practice cheaper, or just buy the parts in the color you want so you have spares. If I had the money to spend I'd consider a new gun. I just can't see spending money on something as cosmetic as color, except maybe some chrome mag release, etc.
On second thought, if you've got that much money to spend on asthetics, how about getting me some ammo for Christmas? .40 S&W JHP please. I always hang panty hose over the fireplace but Santa has yet to fill em.

English
12-14-2011, 09:33
The question is about function but the answers have been about aesthetics. Personally I like matt black guns aesthetically and because they minimise possible dazzling reflections, but, especially for a pistol worn under a shirt, I would think a skin tone would be a great advantage, especially with an appendix holster or similarly frontal position. Under a jacket in a 4 O'Clock position it would be useful to match shirt or jacket lining. Once festivities start, bublegum pink would be really useful to prevent the natives from becoming too frightened if you move through crowds with pistol in hand, because almost all would think it was a toy until the bangs start. In more general terms a multicoloured browns and geens camoflage patter would break up the outline at some distance.

English

BrewerGeorge
12-14-2011, 10:27
The question is about function but the answers have been about aesthetics. Personally I like matt black guns aesthetically and because they minimise possible dazzling reflections, but, especially for a pistol worn under a shirt, I would think a skin tone would be a great advantage, especially with an appendix holster or similarly frontal position. Under a jacket in a 4 O'Clock position it would be useful to match shirt or jacket lining. Once festivities start, bublegum pink would be really useful to prevent the natives from becoming too frightened if you move through crowds with pistol in hand, because almost all would think it was a toy until the bangs start. In more general terms a multicoloured browns and geens camoflage patter would break up the outline at some distance.

English
This may finally be the answer I need when my wife asks my why I need so many guns. Well, I obviously need one to match my blue jeans, one to match khakis, a white one to wear under T-shirts, etc. :supergrin:

That's her excuse for why she has so many purses, so she should understand.:rofl:

WI_GAPR
12-14-2011, 15:34
As far as color goes, here is a little chart I found on the net:


green eases stress
orange soothes anxiety
purple relaxes and soothes fears
blue helps overcome hurt


:rofl:

mj9mm
12-14-2011, 15:46
:wow: maybe a color that matches your underwear :wavey:, or count me in for a charcoal black :supergrin:

mj9mm
12-14-2011, 15:49
This may finally be the answer I need when my wife asks my why I need so many guns. Well, I obviously need one to match my blue jeans, one to match khakis, a white one to wear under T-shirts, etc. :supergrin:

That's her excuse for why she has so many purses, so she should understand.:rofl:

isn't that the excuse your wife would use if she carried ?:embarassed:

Bruce M
12-14-2011, 20:02
go with a nice pastel green.

As far as color goes, here is a little chart I found on the net:


green eases stress
orange soothes anxiety
...

Agreed 221172

wyldesixx21
12-14-2011, 20:16
+1 on he muitables coat with the long slide, looks badass. if i was going to refinish the slide on a glock it would definity be od green or dark earth or so com black. just my favorite and also an opinion for what its worth. of course the original finish never gives anyone away untill its drawn and pointed then all they need to see is a flash. or a bright light mounyrd to the bottom of a glock.

Clay1
12-15-2011, 07:55
You know that most guns come in black and you pay more for stainless but if the gun comes standard in SS and you want black would you pay more for it?

Example Kahr PM9 costs more to get it in black.

BrewerGeorge
12-15-2011, 08:20
You know that most guns come in black and you pay more for stainless but if the gun comes standard in SS and you want black would you pay more for it?

Example Kahr PM9 costs more to get it in black.
To my mind, the hierarchy of materials goes:

1. Blackened/Parkerized regular steel - cheapest but most susceptible to corrosion
2. Natural stainless steel - more corrosion resistant and "prettier"
3. Blackened stainless steel - still stainless underneath, but has to go through the extra process (more $) of blackening

geofri
12-15-2011, 08:25
Paint then stipple like so,


http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/8G/esq-bandaid-1011-lg.jpg

barth
12-15-2011, 08:31
That's like what color car, cloths, girls hair - LOL!
Whatever YOU like...

I know some want a non-shinny SD gun.
But is that really important?

When My gun becomes unconcealed?
I'm thinking the muzzle flash will distract from the color anyway - LOL!

Clay1
12-15-2011, 08:34
M&P = Black SS and price is right. By the way I put number 4 as Tennifer and would prefer it to all others, but black SS is nice. Thinking that I need a PM9 in black. Sorry for the thread drift but it went along with color selection and handguns. I often wonder about the color coming off in the long run though.

Rick

To my mind, the hierarchy of materials goes:

1. Blackened/Parkerized regular steel - cheapest but most susceptible to corrosion
2. Natural stainless steel - more corrosion resistant and "prettier"
3. Blackened stainless steel - still stainless underneath, but has to go through the extra process (more $) of blackening

PlasticGuy
12-15-2011, 08:39
I plan on nobody seeing my ccw handgun unless it's a situation where I have a good reason to have it out. That said, I generally buy my guns, holsters, belt, and undershirts in dark colors. If the wind ever does catch my cover garment just right, it may save some explaining.

Caver 60
12-15-2011, 09:39
Matte black for me.

That's what irritates me about Kahr. You buy a nice black PM9 and it's got that SS magazine base plate sticking out of it's behind.

I buy Pierce grip extensions and then saw and grind off all of the extension, leaving the black base plate to put on the magazine. But it should come in black to start with, IMO.

redbaron007
12-15-2011, 10:07
Once you go black, you never go back! :tongueout:

IMHO, save the greenbacks and spend them on another gun, ammo or reloading equipment! :supergrin:



:wavey:

red

eclark53520
12-15-2011, 10:09
Make it match your blue jeans.

The last thing someone will think when seeing blue is 'gun'.

SCmasterblaster
12-15-2011, 16:51
Stock G17 black here in NH/VT.

Angry Fist
12-15-2011, 17:51
To my mind, the hierarchy of materials goes:

1. Blackened/Parkerized regular steel - cheapest but most susceptible to corrosion
2. Natural stainless steel - more corrosion resistant and "prettier"
3. Blackened stainless steel - still stainless underneath, but has to go through the extra process (more $) of blackening
And at the top, far above the rest....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femtosecond_laser


http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/technology-transfer/find-technologies/index.cfm?TechnolID=783701

MLittle
12-15-2011, 22:30
Black is best....

geofri
12-16-2011, 10:58
And at the top, far above the rest....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femtosecond_laser


http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/technology-transfer/find-technologies/index.cfm?TechnolID=783701

What'd that run me for a full job on the 'ol ak? :wow:

mj9mm
12-16-2011, 11:05
Make it match your blue jeans.

The last thing someone will think when seeing blue is 'gun'.

but what if the first badguy you draw on thinks you have one of those blue practice guns ? :rofl:mmight be an uphill battle from there, excuse me! thise is a real gun ! don't make me use it !:rofl:

BrewerGeorge
12-16-2011, 16:00
but what if the first badguy you draw on thinks you have one of those blue practice guns ? :rofl:mmight be an uphill battle from there, excuse me! thise is a real gun ! don't make me use it !:rofl:
That's actually a very valid point - considering how many encounters are reportedly resolved without a shot fired. (Of course, the laser spot on their chest might help with that...:tongueout:) I've been going back and forth on this issue - dropping it off tomorrow - and this might have just made my decision to stay black for me.

Angry Fist
12-16-2011, 18:27
What'd that run me for a full job on the 'ol ak? :wow:
5 metric **** tons! :whistling: