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bigdough666
12-15-2011, 11:34
Finally got my reloading room set up and I decided to start reloading 40s first (with 45ACP next). So I'm looking for some mild load recipies you guys have had success with.

Weapons will be Glock 22, full size M&P and XDm.
Powder - Unique
Bullet - Berrys plated 165g flat point

Thanks in advance guys!

rpgman
12-15-2011, 11:46
Finally got my reloading room set up and I decided to start reloading 40s first (with 45ACP next). So I'm looking for some mild load recipies you guys have had success with.

Weapons will be Glock 22, full size M&P and XDm.
Powder - Unique
Bullet - Berrys plated 165g flat point

Thanks in advance guys!


well, I haven't experimented with different powders yet, and to me in my G27, this load feels ok to me, but like I stated, I haven't experimented with different powders, so maybe I got use to this load:

165gr Precision Delta Round Nose Bullet, 6.1 Unique, with an OAL of 1.130.

Greg

Colorado4Wheel
12-15-2011, 11:58
Finally got my reloading room set up and I decided to start reloading 40s first (with 45ACP next). So I'm looking for some mild load recipies you guys have had success with.

Weapons will be Glock 22, full size M&P and XDm.
Powder - Unique
Bullet - Berrys plated 165g flat point

Thanks in advance guys!

For a mild recipe you want a faster powder. Unique and similar speed powders function best at mid level loads not usually at the starting loads. TiteGroup, 231, WST, and Bullseye are examples of powders in the speed range that work best for light loads. Mid level loads from those powders will shoot great. Titegroup is possibly the most popular powder for your recipe. A couple people on this forum hate it. They will argue you can't tell the difference between a Unique load and a Titegroup load and should go with the slower powder because it's Bulky and safer from a pressure curve prospective. I personally don't care that much. I use Solo1000 because it's bulky and fast (I like the way a fast powder feels). But you need a chrono to really know what that powder is doing. So TG is a logical choice if you don't have a chrono.

coachg
12-15-2011, 12:20
Here's a good link for some light 40 loads. I've used 4.0 PP and 180 gr Bear Creek moly bullets with success.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/24/ammunition_40lite_091806/

bigdough666
12-15-2011, 12:54
I actually have a jug of Titegroup also. I was just thinking of starting with Unique.

fredj338
12-15-2011, 12:55
You can get good results w/ Unique & other medium burners in the 40 for mid range loads. Mild is subjective, but I assume you want light target type minor loads? As C4W notes, you are better off w/a bit faster powder if you want soft 800-850fps loads. Starting loads of Unqiue will leave lots of unburned powder. Play w/ the Unique, 4.6gr-4.8gr is pleasent to shoot & accurate.

Steve Koski
12-15-2011, 13:20
Doughey:

5.0 gr Unique under your 165 grain bullets is soft shooting, and should run any of those guns.

Koski

Shadyscott69
12-15-2011, 15:20
I am using VV N320 3.8 under a PD 180 FMJ or
2.9 Clays under the same PD 180 FMJ

rpgman
12-15-2011, 15:21
I am using VV N320 3.8 under a PD 180 FMJ or
2.9 Clays under the same PD 180 FMJ

Hey Seth is that a new logo?
If so, NICE.

Shadyscott69
12-15-2011, 15:24
Hey Seth is that a new logo?
If so, NICE.

That is actually one of the stickers we send out with the holsters now. Thanks!

GioaJack
12-15-2011, 15:47
That is actually one of the stickers we send out with the holsters now. Thanks!


The only reason to own a holster is to carry a gun and no one, other than police or military should own a gun because the are evil and dangerous.

Those who use the leather from inhumanly slaughtered bovines and other thick skinned encased creatures should be forced to make buggy whips and then have said implement used upon their bare skinned backs.

Violence is never the answer; tolerance, understanding and sharing of wealth is the only path to true world harmony.

I could pontificate further but my tofu is getting cold.


Jack

(Free stickers, huh?)

rpgman
12-15-2011, 15:52
The only reason to own a holster is to carry a gun and no one, other than police or military should own a gun because the are evil and dangerous.

Those who use the leather from inhumanly slaughtered bovines and other thick skinned encased creatures should be forced to make buggy whips and then have said implement used upon their bare skinned backs.

Violence is never the answer; tolerance, understanding and sharing of wealth is the only path to true world harmony.

I could pontificate further but my tofu is getting cold.


Jack


(Free stickers, huh?)

You read too much Obama stuff, lol

Shadyscott69
12-15-2011, 17:04
The only reason to own a holster is to carry a gun and no one, other than police or military should own a gun because the are evil and dangerous.

Those who use the leather from inhumanly slaughtered bovines and other thick skinned encased creatures should be forced to make buggy whips and then have said implement used upon their bare skinned backs.

Violence is never the answer; tolerance, understanding and sharing of wealth is the only path to true world harmony.

I could pontificate further but my tofu is getting cold.


Jack

(Free stickers, huh?)

Forgot to fill your script again, huh.

WiskyT
12-15-2011, 17:20
Forgot to fill your script again, huh.

On the contrary, he just had his medical MJ script refilled.

WiskyT
12-15-2011, 17:21
3.5 Bullseye and a 180LFP works great. I think a similar amount of TG would work just as well since you have it on hand.

32dgrz
12-15-2011, 19:11
For Mrs. 32dgrz glock 22 I load 5.2 WSF for 180 PD's. That load makes her :)

Murphy's Law
12-16-2011, 07:00
I just started using TG in 40 S&W @ 3.9gr of powder under a 165gr FMJ. Accuracy was excellent and felt recoil was soft to mild (as best I can describe it). Like it so much I ended up coming home from the range and loaded up another 400 rounds!

bigdough666
12-16-2011, 08:03
Thanks for the replys, gonna try out a couple different loads, see how I like them

SDGlock23
12-16-2011, 08:09
If you want mild and accurate, try 3.5gr TiteGroup seated around 1.135". Very mild, recoil is very light and it's very accurate I've found with 180gr Rainier plated bullets, well really any 180gr bullet.

win
12-17-2011, 10:58
I was looking on the hodgdon web site at their reloading data. I loaded some 180 fmj with titegroup. Their chart showed loads from 4.2 to 4.7.
I never load on the hot end. I am always on the light end. Not to sound stupid but how far can you go on the light end. I never would have thought of trying a 3.5gr load.
I have another question for ya. I have found load data for a JHP but not for a lead bullet in the same weight. Can you use the same powder charge?
Also will a pound of bulky powder load as many rounds as a less bulky powder? Your buying powder by weight of the powder? correct?
thanks again
thanks

WiskyT
12-17-2011, 15:03
I was looking on the hodgdon web site at their reloading data. I loaded some 180 fmj with titegroup. Their chart showed loads from 4.2 to 4.7.
I never load on the hot end. I am always on the light end. Not to sound stupid but how far can you go on the light end. I never would have thought of trying a 3.5gr load.
I have another question for ya. I have found load data for a JHP but not for a lead bullet in the same weight. Can you use the same powder charge?
Also will a pound of bulky powder load as many rounds as a less bulky powder? Your buying powder by weight of the powder? correct?
thanks again
thanks

At the lower end, especially below starting loads (like using 3.5 when the "start" load is 4.2) you can substitute a lead bullet for jacketed data. Actually, you are better off with a lead bullet for reduced loads. A jacketed bullet has a much higher potential to get stuck in the bore. Being as how many people use 3.5TG and a jacketed bullet, I would figure a jacketed bullet won't get stuck, but a lead bullet will be even safer in that regard.

The lower limit will show itself when the gun fails to cycle, or in my case with my Beretta, powder flakes will come back in your face. It's not dangerous if you're wearing safety glasses, but it's annoying and is the Reloading Fairy's way of telling you to put a couple of tenths more in the next batch.

Which is heavier, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers:supergrin: You are correct, a pound is a pound by weight. 3.5 grains will give you 2,000 rounds per pound of any powder, regardless of bulk.

dvrdwn72
12-17-2011, 19:34
3.5 grain tg behind 180 grain at 1.126 oal is a soft shooter out of my gen. 4 35. Good for steel matches. For me to have a "comfortable" load to make major pf I use power pistol at 5.7 gr. 180 grn bullet at 1.128 oal for a pf of 171. I love the tg powder for .40 mild loads.

birda40
12-17-2011, 20:18
After 30 years I've been reloading again. love the 40 Cal. I've been experimenting with HP-38 , started with 5.7 gns at OAL 1.135. I've lowered my recent loads to 5.0 , berrys 155 grn JFP.
I've noticed none of you guys useing this powder, is there any reason why? should I change to a different brand?

TH3180
12-17-2011, 20:22
180gr Montana Gold
4.2gr of W231
1.125"

win
12-17-2011, 20:48
I am loading some of my old WSL. I loaded some FMJ 180 gr at 4.4 of wsl and some 180gr lead at 4.1 wsl.
I am going to try some with the 180 gr lead with TG at 3.5 gr.
thanks again

Hobnob
12-17-2011, 20:58
My mild/target load is Precision Delta 180 jacketed w/3.1 Clays, loaded @ 1.30. Lead I can drop to 2.9. Feels like a 9 load

BC Dan
12-20-2011, 00:34
After 30 years I've been reloading again. love the 40 Cal. I've been experimenting with HP-38 , started with 5.7 gns at OAL 1.135. I've lowered my recent loads to 5.0 , berrys 155 grn JFP.
I've noticed none of you guys useing this powder, is there any reason why? should I change to a different brand?

HP38 and Win 231 are the same powder. I use which ever is cheaper.