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win
12-18-2011, 07:58
I am loading some 45 colt ammo. I loaded 230 LRN with 6.1 gr of TG.
I have some 185 gr XTP. What powder charge of TG would you use? Hodgdon web site does not list a charge for this bullet.
If you have any other loads for the 45 colt please share. Aslo what other powders are good?
thanks

Zombie Steve
12-18-2011, 09:07
I think you're going to have more luck finding data for bullets around the 250 / 255 grain range. You're also going to have more luck finding data for slower burning powders than titegroup. Just a quick look through a Hornady and Speer manual, and I don't see 185's at all.

FWIW, I shoot a 200 grain rnfp over 6.5 grains of Trail Boss (fairly fast powder, but super bulky and made for Cowboy Action Loads in .45 Colt) for 800 fps. It's really easy to shoot. I also have a standard pressure load of a 255 grain lswc with 7.7 grains of Unique that gets me to close to 900 fps from a 5-1/2" barrel.

ColoCG
12-18-2011, 10:36
While Titegroup would not be my choice of powder to load under the185gr. Hornady XTP bullet in .45colt, Hodgdons web sight does list a charge of 6.7gr. to 7.5gr. of Titegroup behind a 200gr. Hornady XTP.

Usually it is safe to use a load from a heavier bullet of the same design with a lighter weight bullet. I would start with the minimum load for the 200gr. and work up slowly. Other good powders were mentioned above.

fredj338
12-18-2011, 12:44
While Titegroup would not be my choice of powder to load under the185gr. Hornady XTP bullet in .45colt, Hodgdons web sight does list a charge of 6.7gr. to 7.5gr. of Titegroup behind a 200gr. Hornady XTP.

Usually it is safe to use a load from a heavier bullet of the same design with a lighter weight bullet. I would start with the minimum load for the 200gr. and work up slowly. Other good powders were mentioned above.
Exactly.
Darwin project: TG & the big 4colts case. A Dbl charge waiting to happen. Just food for thought.:whistling:

10mmbob
12-18-2011, 15:52
I'm with Zombie Steve on the bullet weights. It sounds like you are using bullets that were meant for the .45 ACP, not the Colt. They will be undersized for the bore in a .45 Colt .

win
12-18-2011, 15:59
I will look into the trail boss powder. yes the pullet are for the 45 acp.

fredj338
12-18-2011, 18:10
I'm with Zombie Steve on the bullet weights. It sounds like you are using bullets that were meant for the .45 ACP, not the Colt. They will be undersized for the bore in a .45 Colt .

Except modern 45colts have 0.451" bbls & readily run 45acp bullets. The only thing wrong w/ using them is they have no crimp groove.

GioaJack
12-18-2011, 18:12
I'm with Zombie Steve on the bullet weights. It sounds like you are using bullets that were meant for the .45 ACP, not the Colt. They will be undersized for the bore in a .45 Colt .


Older .45 Colt guns were bored .454, all new quality guns, (not sure about some of the offshore, cheaper guns), have been bored at .451 for many years.

Lead bullets sized at .452 should present no problem.


Jack

win
12-18-2011, 18:34
So if I buy some HP for the 45 colt with larger weight I should be ok for the jacketed bullets. The 230 LRN would be ok?
will also look at different pawder.
already loaded 100 rounds for the 230 LRN with TG 6.1gr.
They test fired good.

10mmbob
12-18-2011, 19:10
Thanks Fred and Jack for setting me straight on the bore diameters of the .45 Colt. My Uberti clone is more than 20yrs. old and slugs out at .454.

fredj338
12-18-2011, 21:14
Thanks Fred and Jack for setting me straight on the bore diameters of the .45 Colt. My Uberti clone is more than 20yrs. old and slugs out at .454.

Well, anything form Italy is a crap shoot. I have had great Ubertis' & crap ones. Dimension are all over the place.

GioaJack
12-18-2011, 21:22
Well, anything form Italy is a crap shoot. I have had great Ubertis' & crap ones. Dimension are all over the place.


HEY, HEY, HEY!!! I'm from Italy! (Kinda)

Now that I think about it, you may be right.

Now I'm really depressed. :crying:


Jack

glock_19guy1983
12-18-2011, 21:35
I use 7gr of Universal clays behind a 250g RNFP in my S&W 25-5. Accurate and easy to handle

fredj338
12-19-2011, 10:41
HEY, HEY, HEY!!! I'm from Italy! (Kinda)

Now that I think about it, you may be right.

Now I'm really depressed. :crying:


Jack
I should have been specific, anything made not born there.:shocked: There are some fantastic looking Italian women with fabulous dimensions. You though Jack, I've seen you in a dress, I may be standing by my original statement.:whistling:

SJ 40
12-19-2011, 10:47
(Well, anything form Italy is a crap shoot. I have had great Ubertis' & crap ones. Dimension are all over the place.) From my experience with Uberti's in 45 colt,7 over the years. Fred speaks the truth ! SJ 40

LZHome
12-20-2011, 21:32
Talk about a strange load; I ended up with a surplus of 230g LRN and AA#5. I ended up with a load of 10.6g of AA#5 and it was pretty good.

Here are some other 45LC loads:
200g LRNFP and 6.0 Titegroup
250G LRNFP and 5.5 Titegroup
250g LRNFP and 4.4 Hodgdon Clay

All mild cowboy loads.

win
12-28-2011, 17:14
Is Clays a bulky powder?
I got some Trail Boss powder today. They did not have any 452 bullets. I got some 451 at 230gr. JHP
What load would be a good load?
thanks

BLK RIFLE
12-30-2011, 21:32
I've been reloading for 50 years and my advice is to get yourself a reloading manual. They have loads for different bullets and powders in them. I would never go to a forum and ask anyone for their loads because they might not work good in your particular gun. I have loads for my Ruger Blackhawk and I wouldn't give them because unless yours is a Blackhawk it might blow. Your manual is your best bet.

win
12-31-2011, 19:38
I have a reloading manual. I also looked on the hodgdon wed pag for reloading data. Just did not see what I was looking for.
I ended up with a 230 xtp with 6.3gr trail boss. I tred a 6.0 of TB. Both nice loaded I think.
thanks again

HarveyatPC
01-01-2012, 06:33
I had problems with consistent charge loads. My Dillon kept throwing .3 tenth more every second or third case. Using the large powder bar and coating the expander tube/cone with graphite will help. I like 6.3 gn. of Trialboss with 255 RNFP.
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dbarry
01-01-2012, 08:04
Is Clays a bulky powder?
I got some Trail Boss powder today. They did not have any 452 bullets. I got some 451 at 230gr. JHP
What load would be a good load?
thanks

One of the awesome things about trail boss is you can easily develop your own loads. You start with 70% capacity (from where bullet would be seated) and work your load up from there. Hodgdon explains in detail here: http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail%20Boss%20Reduced%20Loads%20R&P.pdf