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Disregarded9-side
12-19-2011, 02:03
I've used H4198 (not a fan, too fast burning for the gas system) and H-335, which I like quite a bit, as does my rifle. Just ran out of is while completing some late night reloading. What do y'all like to feed your ARs?

The powders I'd like to hear a bit about are:
-BL-C(2)
-IMR-4895
-H-4895

Thanks, and happy holidays.

McGAP
12-19-2011, 02:25
I like Varget - always had great results with it in 5.56/.223 and .308.

EL_NinO619
12-19-2011, 02:31
Ramshot TAC is the Final Answer. Guaranteed

byf43
12-19-2011, 07:17
H-335 and Sierra 69 gr BTHP MatchKing.

:thumbsup:

JRI
12-19-2011, 07:41
IMR 4320,I cannot stand ball powders,plus I've used IMR stick powders for going on 35yrs.

DoctaGlockta
12-19-2011, 07:48
Once you try TAC you'll never go back.

Boxerglocker
12-19-2011, 08:04
Ramshot TAC is the Final Answer. Guaranteed

Word... TAC is where it's at. I loaded 69g SMK's with 23.3g at 2.250 and got 1/4 MOA AT 200 yards.

ColoCG
12-19-2011, 08:57
I use BL-C(2), ball powder meters just like H335 but I get slightly better accuracy in my AR.

XDRoX
12-19-2011, 08:58
IMR 4320,I cannot stand ball powders,plus I've used IMR stick powders for going on 35yrs.

Why don't you like ball powers?

JRI
12-19-2011, 09:09
Why don't you like ball powers?

I've not been able to achieve good accuracy from ball powders,nor do I care for the increased temperature sensitivity of ball powders.Plus I started off with IMR stick powders,35yrs ago,and have had the best luck with them.

Jeff

fredj338
12-19-2011, 10:43
I've not been able to achieve good accuracy from ball powders,nor do I care for the increased temperature sensitivity of ball powders.Plus I started off with IMR stick powders,35yrs ago,and have had the best luck with them.

Jeff

So Jeff, how many have you tried? 35yrs ago there weren't that many, now we have a bunch, some very good ones. For loading on a progressive, I bet I could find one your rifle likes.:wavey:

Gunnut 45/454
12-19-2011, 11:55
I like either Benchmark or IMR 4895, H4895, Varget. All are good powders for the AR.:supergrin:

JRI
12-19-2011, 12:07
So Jeff, how many have you tried? 35yrs ago there weren't that many, now we have a bunch, some very good ones. For loading on a progressive, I bet I could find one your rifle likes.:wavey:

Great points Fred,they're weren,t many back then,I still load on a single stage RCBS Rockchucker just never warmed up to the progressive presses,especially for rifle cartridges.No doubt in my mind you could find a couple that would work,but I got a bad taste in my mouth towards ball powders,and never had the desire to try them again,perhaps I may sometime.

Anyhow,I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas!

Jeff

fredj338
12-19-2011, 14:53
Great points Fred,they're weren,t many back then,I still load on a single stage RCBS Rockchucker just never warmed up to the progressive presses,especially for rifle cartridges.No doubt in my mind you could find a couple that would work,but I got a bad taste in my mouth towards ball powders,and never had the desire to try them again,perhaps I may sometime.

Anyhow,I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas!

Jeff

Back at you jeff.:reindeer:

EL_NinO619
12-19-2011, 14:59
Tac, BLC-2, 748, Varget in that order. Varget is better than 748 but 748's metering factor puts it over Varget..

Magelk
12-19-2011, 22:11
Ramshot Tac

JBnTX
12-19-2011, 22:24
IMR 4895 and Hornady 68gr BTHP bullets.

chris in va
12-20-2011, 04:42
Pretty fond of 4895, as I can also use it in my 30-06 Garand ammo. Has a nice push-feel to it instead of a quick snap like some other powders I've tried. A little unnerving though, being a compressed load. Crunch!

Unfortunately it's uber expensive where I'm at, being popular for the Garand crowd. 25gr of Reloder 15 is fine with me, got another couple pounds left.

Disregarded9-side
01-02-2012, 16:02
Word... TAC is where it's at. I loaded 62g SMK's with 23.3g at 2.250 and got 1/4 MOA AT 200 yards.
Very impressive.
What kind of barrel were you shooting out of?

I'm at 16.1" & 1x9 twist.

dbarry
01-02-2012, 18:57
Once you try TAC you'll never go back.

Once you try varget, you'll never go...

I cant think of anything that rhymes with varget... nuttin that makes sense anyway... bummer...

GioaJack
01-02-2012, 19:01
Once you try varget, you'll never go...

I cant think of anything that rhymes with varget... nuttin that makes sense anyway... bummer...


Once you try varget, you'll never... miss your target.

Hey, give me a break, I'm a little off my feed tonight.


Jack

jdavionic
01-02-2012, 19:03
I've used H335 for years. Works well for me.

RustyFN
01-02-2012, 22:10
I have tried H-335, W-748 and BL(C)2. I like H-335 best. I'm using WC-844 now. It's the surplus powder equivelent to H-335.

MakeMineA10mm
01-02-2012, 22:40
Ramshot TAC is, in a word, AMAZING for the 5.56mm.

It is smooth-metering, case-filling (without or with extremely little compression), has copper-fouling inhibitors, heat reducers that reduce the erosion of the barrel (as much as a powder can - the big factor is controlling the rate of fire with your trigger finger), and is low-fouling. It was invented (designed?) as a powder for 7.62x51 NATO machineguns with high-rates of fire (high heat, high erosiveness, and high copper-fouling), hence it's special attributes. It turns out it's a tiny bit on the slow side for 5.56 w/ lighter bullets (<60grs), but that makes it IDEAL for 68gr-77gr Match bullets which are all the rage for combat use now...

fredj338
01-03-2012, 00:22
I rans some TAC the other day out of my 16" AR. Accuracy wasn't impressive but it was a windy day so I will try another couple of loads. The AA2520 I tried gave terrific accuracy & good vel. It is also a bit slow for lighter bullets, but 2800fps w/ 55gr FMJ from the short bbl works & very good accuracy.

labdwakin
01-03-2012, 16:32
I have tried H-335, W-748 and BL(C)2. I like H-335 best. I'm using WC-844 now. It's the surplus powder equivelent to H-335.


I agree with Rusty... but then again, I'm a HORRIBLE cheapskate...

mizer67
01-05-2012, 14:54
27.2 gr of BCL-2 tightened up 55 gr Horn. FMJ nicely in my guns, prior to that it shoot poorly, like bulk factory ball.

~25.0 grains of H335 has been a decent 55 FMJ plinking load as well.

For serious accuracy, I like RL-15 and SMKs. 8208 XBR is impressive as well, and less temp sensitive. What little data is out there is very conservative, so I rarely recommend it to others.

I've tried TAC, and am not impressed. 1.5" groups on average at 100 yards.

dbarry
01-07-2012, 19:09
Once you try varget, you'll never... miss your target.

Hey, give me a break, I'm a little off my feed tonight.


Jack

show off... you probably could work for hallmark.

Boxerglocker
01-08-2012, 01:10
Very impressive.
What kind of barrel were you shooting out of?

I'm at 16.1" & 1x9 twist.

Sorry those were 69g SMKs, 16 inch 1:7 government profile on my DDM4 with a Geissele SD-C trigger.