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interlake869
12-19-2011, 08:14
just bought some 44mag dies and plan on cooking up a batch this week


what do you gentelman like for powder in 44mag?

will be fired primarily from a 7 1/2 inch ruger redhawk

unclebob
12-19-2011, 08:33
When I had a Ruger Red Hawk I used an Elmer Keith load using 2400.

ColoCG
12-19-2011, 08:43
When I had a Ruger Red Hawk I used an Elmer Keith load using 2400.

I agree, you can't go wrong with 2400.

Fastbear
12-19-2011, 08:58
Congrats on the Redhawk, great gun.
240 gr Jacketed 24.8 H110 @ 1400 fps
240 gr Jacketed 21.2 2400 @ 1350 fps
240 gr Jacketed 15.0 Blue Dot @ 1350 fps
240 gr SWC lead 7.7 WIN231 @ 1000 fps
Loads are @ max. powder charge.
Have fun shooting the big red one.

GioaJack
12-19-2011, 10:25
If you plan on shooting less than close to, or full power loads Unique will work very well.


Jack

fredj338
12-19-2011, 10:35
I used to shoot #s of H110, great powder for full power loads, but full power ONLY. Since I don't compete w/ the 44mag anymore in met sil, most of my 44mag shooting is midrange to upper midrange & 2400 is perfect for such loads. It gets within 50fps of the top H110 loads but downloads to upper midrange well. For target to midrange loads, especially w/ lead bullets (the only true 44mag projectile) then it's Unique all day every day.

Ahmid
12-19-2011, 10:41
I used to load with Win 296 and Hodgdon 110 exclusively.
I am going back to 2400 for a bit milder loads.

fredj338
12-19-2011, 10:41
I used to load with Win 296 and Hodgdon 110 exclusively.
I am going back to 2400 for a bit milder loads.
Exactly!:supergrin:

Zombie Steve
12-19-2011, 11:23
Another vote for 2400. I've found it excellent in .44 mag and .357 mag. My 8 pound jug is almost dead. Time for another. I just can't find a reason to switch. :supergrin:

smokeross
12-19-2011, 12:14
I like a powder that substantially fills the case, especially for full house loads. With some of the faster burning pistol powders, a double or even triple charge could happen.
I use WW296 for my hunting loads. Favorite bullet is the Hornady 265 made for the .444 Marlin, with 23 grains of said powder. Less exposed lead, and harder. Thicker jacket. Penetrates large dangerous game very well. Not as expensive as the so called, premium bullets.

dbarry
12-19-2011, 17:20
hard to go wrong with 2400, but I really like 300-MP with 180gr remington. Crazy big fireball - very fun :O)

unclebob
12-19-2011, 17:36
I like a powder that substantially fills the case, especially for full house loads. With some of the faster burning pistol powders, a double or even triple charge could happen.

Only if you donít look inside each and every case. If you do that you can use any powder that you want that is used for the application. People that do not look inside each and every case before placing a bullet, will continue to blow up guns and have squib loads. Itís just as simple as that.

fredj338
12-19-2011, 19:10
I like a powder that substantially fills the case, especially for full house loads. With some of the faster burning pistol powders, a double or even triple charge could happen.
I use WW296 for my hunting loads. Favorite bullet is the Hornady 265 made for the .444 Marlin, with 23 grains of said powder. Less exposed lead, and harder. Thicker jacket. Penetrates large dangerous game very well. Not as expensive as the so called, premium bullets.

If yo uhaven't tried a good hard cast bullet in the 44mag, you don't know what you are missing. Accurate & less wear & tear on the forcing cone of your revolver. For most ath isn't a big deal, many shoot their 44mags less than 100rds a year, but for those of us that use them to plink or compete, 2k-3k rds a year will show a diff in forcing cone wear suing jacketed bullets & H110 vs lead bullets & 2400.:dunno:

thorn137
12-19-2011, 19:24
I'm a big fan of using Universal in my Redhawk. I dont have my notes handy for a recipe, though. I like a nice manageable punch... not a shoulder buster.

thorn

dla
12-20-2011, 18:15
just bought some 44mag dies and plan on cooking up a batch this week


what do you gentelman like for powder in 44mag?

will be fired primarily from a 7 1/2 inch ruger redhawk


H110/W296.
Enforcer.
AA#9
2400

Rinspeed
12-23-2011, 20:40
Unique for mid loads and H110 for full power.

Damon555
12-23-2011, 21:15
Unique for mid loads and H110 for full power.

These are the only 2 powders I use for handguns.

fredj338
12-23-2011, 22:11
These are the only 2 powders I use for handguns.

You either don't load many calibers or need to branch out a bit. Both are great powders, Unique being quite versitile, but H110 has a very narrow loading range, full power magnums & not much else.:dunno:

Kwesi
12-24-2011, 07:49
Fred: by full power loads could you be more specific re: 45 Win Mag? Just picked up a Grizzly Mark 1 & trying to pick a receipe. H110 has been suggested but how hot must it be if using H110? To take advantage of it's benefits.

Rinspeed
12-24-2011, 08:09
Fred: by full power loads could you be more specific re: 45 Win Mag?





H110/296 was formulated for maximum loads, if you try to download even a little under published data bad things can happen.

PCJim
12-24-2011, 10:06
The guideline for reloading wit H110 is that you do not reduce your charge by more than 3% of maximum load. 2400 is much more versatile when wanting a powder capable of full power or somewhat reduced loads, with Unique more for mid-level loads.

fredj338
12-24-2011, 10:10
The guideline for reloading wit H110 is that you do not reduce your charge by more than 3% of maximum load. 2400 is much more versatile when wanting a powder capable of full power or somewhat reduced loads, with Unique more for mid-level loads.
I will admit to going a bit lower w/ ok results, but get a lighter bullet or cold day, not enough roll crimp & a hangfire is possible, yes I have done it.:crying:

PCJim
12-24-2011, 10:19
And Fred, you're a very experienced reloader and did so with the upmost caution. I'm sure that Hodgdon went lower also, they almost had to. Otherwise they would not have determined the potential of ill effects when doing so.

Damon555
12-24-2011, 11:24
You either don't load many calibers or need to branch out a bit. Both are great powders, Unique being quite versitile, but H110 has a very narrow loading range, full power magnums & not much else.:dunno:

I've only been doing it for a comparatively short 15 years. I load for 9mm, 38 super, 38 special, 357 mag, 45 acp and 44 mag....I guess that's not many but those 2 powders work just fine in those calibers.

fredj338
12-24-2011, 12:06
I've only been doing it for a comparatively short 15 years. I load for 9mm, 38 super, 38 special, 357 mag, 45 acp and 44 mag....I guess that's not many but those 2 powders work just fine in those calibers.

Fair enough, but you have no idea what you are missing using two powders a @ opp ends for the calibers you mention. The 38super is barely a 9mm loading it w/ W231 & H110 doesn't work. The magnums, I am betting you don't shoot them all that much w/ full power H110 loads, just a guess. The 9mm & 38sp run fine on W231, but your 9mm ammo is barely making factory specs. Great choice for the 45acp, but again, within certain limits. Branch out, try a medium burner like WSF or HS6. You likely shoot the magnums more if you down load them a bit & they'll last longer. Yes it is possible to shoot a 44mag loose using nothing but full power loads, I have done it. Then I used to shoot about 5K 44mags a year out of one gun.:wavey:

fredj338
12-24-2011, 12:08
The guideline for reloading wit H110 is that you do not reduce your charge by more than 3% of maximum load. 2400 is much more versatile when wanting a powder capable of full power or somewhat reduced loads, with Unique more for mid-level loads.
You are correct, I am only verifing your 3% being +/- a bit. It's a specific use powder, like BE or other powders @ the opp end of the burn rate chart. Not the best for multi tasking but a specifc goal of max effort loads. I still use H110/W296, but only for full power hunting stuff.

436
12-24-2011, 12:09
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2400 for the old Elmer Keith loads, which work well with lead in the 240gr 250gr weight bullets
#9 for the heavy bullets like 300gr - 350gr hard cast or JSP
This is my pick even though all three of the powders are pretty universal in the .44 Magnum
Merry Christmas
436

AA#5
12-24-2011, 12:27
I like a powder that substantially fills the case, especially for full house loads. With some of the faster burning pistol powders, a double or even triple charge could happen.
I use WW296 for my hunting loads. Favorite bullet is the Hornady 265 made for the .444 Marlin, with 23 grains of said powder. Less exposed lead, and harder. Thicker jacket. Penetrates large dangerous game very well. Not as expensive as the so called, premium bullets.

Same here. And for lighter loads around 900 fps, I like 8 Gr. Trailboss. Fills the case almost to the top & very accurate with lead.