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travis34769
12-22-2011, 12:24
http://usagunblog.com/?p=198

The weight of them is what really surprised me. This will not pull the end of your gun down like the other modules would. Cant wait to touch one, that is for sure!


They have a picture on their website crimsontrace.com of a glock with the laser module and the lightguard installed.

Does adding a light increase your chance in a tactical situation or actually hurt you? I hear a lot of talk about adding or not adding a laser/light to a handgun. I prefer to have the laser/light because when used properly my chances seem to be better.

12131
12-22-2011, 13:03
I prefer their grip laser more.

Shadyscott69
12-22-2011, 13:07
CT sent me some a while back. I think I have every model they make. I am personally not a fan of lasers, but I like the grips more.

glock2740
12-22-2011, 13:11
I prefer their grip laser more.
Me too.

WiskyT
12-22-2011, 13:11
More stuff I don't need.

travis34769
12-22-2011, 18:33
Me too.

Yeah they do make a fine grip. Agreed

Chonny
12-22-2011, 20:59
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bac1023
12-22-2011, 21:28
I'm not a laser guy personally.

gbhamm2
12-22-2011, 21:42
IMO lasers just distract your eyes from the sites.

M2 Carbine
12-23-2011, 09:19
IMO lasers just distract your eyes from the sites.
The purpose of a laser is a low light/dark sighting device when you can not see the sights.
The best feature of a laser is you have your eyes focused on the threat, not on the gun sights a couple feet in front of your face.


The laser can also be handy when the brightness of the area is such that you can still see the sights, like indoors. Then I still use the laser. It's probably faster and more accurate (if you are experienced with the laser) and I'm looking at the threat area instead of the front sight.


That light might be handy on some pistols, for some applications, but personally I prefer a laser or better yet (for HD) a laser/light.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/PX4.jpg

The gun mounted light is better than a hand held light alone. If I used that gun mounted light I'd still want a good handheld light in my pocket to.



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dosei
12-23-2011, 09:33
A lot of people looking at it thinking it is a laser...

Come on people, it's a 100 lumen white light (as in "flashlight").

M2 Carbine
12-23-2011, 10:06
Does adding a light increase your chance in a tactical situation or actually hurt you? I hear a lot of talk about adding or not adding a laser/light to a handgun.
I have a home range where for some years, in low light and dark, I've experimented and practiced with lasers and laser lights on handguns, rifles and shotguns. So I have a pretty good idea what works good in low light and darkness and what is slow and maybe inaccurate.

Put it this way.
With some knowledge and a bit of practice this is what you can easily do with (good) gun mounted lasers and laser lights.
If you can do such as this in low light and darkness with your shooting method, you do not need a laser or laser/light.

Now understand I have 74 year old eyes and unsteady hands, so if I can do this with lasers and laser/lights, most anyone can.:supergrin:

10 yards. Fast firing a Crimson Trace equipped 2 inch 38 S&W J Frame. Shooting left (weak) hand from the hip.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/LaserJFrameLefthand10yards-2.jpg




Crimson Trace equipped S&W K22
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/K22andCrimsonTracelaser.jpg




Using just the laser and using just the light and iron sights. The laser is faster.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/TLR2andironsights.jpg




Streamlight TLR-2 laser/light equipped S&W M&P 15/22 (rifle). 25 yards. Fast fired from the hip.
In darkness.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/Backyardrangeatnight.jpg

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/SWMP22lightandlaserinthedark.jpg

M2 Carbine
12-23-2011, 10:07
Streamlight TLR-2 laser equipped 12 ga Remington 870. Low light. All shots from the hip.
#4 and 00 Buckshot in the BG's chest is from 17 yards.
Slugs in the guy's butt and the small target shot from 26 yards.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/IthacaTLR2BGtarget.jpg



It was so late by the time the 40 yard target was shot the target was a Gray blur but still it was easy to keep the hits COM using the Crimson Trace laser.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/Laser40yards.jpg



Crimson Trace equipped 3 inch S&W J Frame. 52 yards standing. Low light (I had to wait until the next day to take the picture)
Just skinned the guy with a couple shots.:)
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/laser52yards38SW.jpg

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smokin762
12-23-2011, 10:26
When I was doing IDPA, one of the guys there bought a laser for his 1911. He used it only in one match, he made some really nice shoots but he took a big hit on his time.


He told me, he kept looking for the red dot too much. I would think with plenty of practice that issue could be corrected. :dunno:

M2 Carbine
12-23-2011, 10:55
He told me, he kept looking for the red dot too much. I would think with plenty of practice that issue could be corrected.
That's a common mistake. You don't look for the dot (it takes too long). You look at where you want to hit, as you point the gun, as you light the laser, as you start back with the trigger.
With a little practice you will automatically (quickly) bring the dot to where you are looking as you fire the gun.
AND the laser is a low light/dark sighting device. If it's light enough to use the iron sights then it's probably too light to use the laser. If you have to "look for the laser dot" then it's too bright to use a laser.
Generally, except maybe indoors where the dot is bright, IMO if you can see your iron sights, and you are good with them, use them.

People want to use the laser as their primary sight. It is a good low light point shooting tool, not a full time replacement for iron sights.
And with the laser, like iron sights, there is a learning curve that takes practice to get good and fast.

I've found that some experienced shooters have some difficulty adapting to the laser. It is one more button to push and learning a new way of sighting the gun.
But, like my friends, after some practice they got faster and more accurate with the laser (in low light).
Generally new shooters do well with the laser becuse they aren't set in their ways like us older shooters.
For instance when I introduced a new (senior) lady shooter to the laser, after shooting one magazine I gave her a second magazine and told her to shoot the gun out of the BS's hand (10 yards).
And she did.:) At that time she could not do that with iron sights.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/Hostagegunhandshoot.jpg



Personally, I'm not very fast anyhow, but I am a little faster and way more accurate (in low light) with the laser than I am with iron sights in daylight.

8-Ball
12-23-2011, 13:54
As always, Buck, remarkable feedback. I always look forward to hearing your opinion and experience.

Nakanokalronin
12-23-2011, 17:30
Depending on cost, this will be a nice option for someone wanting a light on their gun that has no rail.

travis34769
12-23-2011, 20:53
Streamlight TLR-2 laser equipped 12 ga Remington 870. Low light. All shots from the hip.
#4 and 00 Buckshot in the BG's chest is from 17 yards.
Slugs in the guy's butt and the small target shot from 26 yards.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/IthacaTLR2BGtarget.jpg



It was so late by the time the 40 yard target was shot the target was a Gray blur but still it was easy to keep the hits COM using the Crimson Trace laser.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/Laser40yards.jpg






Crimson Trace equipped 3 inch S&W J Frame. 52 yards standing. Low light (I had to wait until the next day to take the picture)
Just skinned the guy with a couple shots.:)
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/laser52yards38SW.jpg

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I believe that is as good as it gets my friend. Loved your post and descriptions. Thank you!

Cole125
12-23-2011, 21:20
I am a big fan of the Streamlight TLR-2. Its a great light/laser for any gun. Got them on all my HD guns.

travis34769
12-24-2011, 12:44
I am a big fan of the Streamlight TLR-2. Its a great light/laser for any gun. Got them on all my HD guns.

Yeah streamlight is a VERY good company and them guys do a wonderful job!

Rob1109
12-24-2011, 13:10
http://usagunblog.com/?p=198

The weight of them is what really surprised me. This will not pull the end of your gun down like the other modules would. Cant wait to touch one, that is for sure!


They have a picture on their website crimsontrace.com of a glock with the laser module and the lightguard installed.

Does adding a light increase your chance in a tactical situation or actually hurt you? I hear a lot of talk about adding or not adding a laser/light to a handgun. I prefer to have the laser/light because when used properly my chances seem to be better.

I have one on my 26 and my Ruger LCP. Like they're not there. Since the sights don't work at night CT is the solution for me. YMMV.

travis34769
12-24-2011, 20:58
I have one on my 26 and my Ruger LCP. Like they're not there. Since the sights don't work at night CT is the solution for me. YMMV.

Not a big fan of the night sights. I would rather have a laser for sure than a pair of them on my gun. IMHO.....

Chonny
12-25-2011, 00:44
This is a Light Guard. Not the Laser Grip or Laser Guard.

I love the hell out of CTC laser products, they are the only ones I'll use. Those rail mounted ones just suck.

I don't like flashlights so I wouldn't need this product.

Since everyone is talking about lasers I do like Crimson Trace lasers.

fireman96
01-09-2012, 22:10
I ordered one for my glock 19. I use this gun for concealed carry and home defense. I wanted a light that I wouldnt have to remove and replace constantly.

never enough
01-09-2012, 22:38
I ordered one for my glock 19. I use this gun for concealed carry and home defense. I wanted a light that I wouldnt have to remove and replace constantly.
what did that run you?

ksmedman
01-09-2012, 22:46
Not a Lightguard, but I did put a weapon light on my bedside table gun:

http://s385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/ksmedman/XDpic1.jpg


XD45 tactical w/ S&W Micro90 light.
I don't have a light on my carry gun (G19), but the CT looks intrigueing...

fireman96
01-12-2012, 00:01
what did that run you?
$119.00 out the door from optics planet

fireman96
01-12-2012, 17:16
Lightguard for my 19.

USDefender
01-12-2012, 17:24
I put CT grips on my wife's 642. I knew she wouldn't practice like I do (and I was right). The good thing is, in spite of that, she knows exactly where each round is going... I don't usually recommend this sort of attitude regarding 'firearms training' (or the lack thereof), but when you have a wife as stupidly stubborn as mine is, CTs are a great way to compensate. :sigh:

BudMan5
01-12-2012, 17:26
LA Police Gear has Streamlight TRL -1s on clearance for $99.00.

Streamlight TLR-1s (http://www.lapolicegear.com/streamlight-tlr1s-weaponlight.html)

travis34769
02-05-2012, 12:46
Thats what im looking to get for my night stand is the XD with the simple light setup.