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itstime
12-22-2011, 17:30
What is the latest thoughts of the current Sig 1911's? Stay away? Looking at a 4 in. model for carry unless any of you 1911 guys tell me to just go 5 in. LOL Size matters.

I also found a Kimber 4 in. stainless HD. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

gogriz91
12-22-2011, 17:46
I've never handled nor shot a SIG 1911 so I can't give you an opinion on them other than to say some holster makers make a different holster for SIG 1911s.

I'm happy with my SIS Pro, swapped out the springs for a Wolff setup and nary a hiccup.

Shark1007
12-22-2011, 18:27
I have a recent Sig, C3 crimson trace, 4.25 inch. I love the gun and it shoots great. I stayed away from the Kimber because of some of the issues I've heard of, but have also heard good things too.

The sig is a superb 1911, no question. I just shot it in a "point shoot" class and it seemed faster than the Glocks.

glock2740
12-22-2011, 18:38
Kimber has more options than Sig. Other than that, I don't have any experience with Sig 1911's, but I do like their Tac Ops and Scorpion models.

itstime
12-22-2011, 18:58
Kimber has more options than Sig. Other than that, I don't have any experience with Sig 1911's, but I do like their Tac Ops and Scorpion models.

Those are the ones I'm drawn to also.

bac1023
12-22-2011, 20:15
I prefer Kimber overall, but Sig probably has the better quality parts.

jrs93accord
12-22-2011, 20:24
I have never owned or shot a SIG 1911, but I can attest to the Kimber. I own 16 Kimbers and for the last almost 7 years, I have been carrying a Stainless Pro Carry II.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-23.jpg

Mayhem like Me
12-22-2011, 20:44
Those are the ones I'm drawn to also.

Pull the trigger just got a scorpion and it replaced my TRP as my carry gun.. it shoots like a dream..

ImpeachObama
12-22-2011, 20:46
Sig'11 for me. LUV mine! They are ready to run out of the box, not overly tight, not needing 500 rounds to break in.

Bigbluebuckeye
12-23-2011, 04:16
Sig has a traditional 1911 line that I like quite a bit. I picked up a traditional compact stainless yesterday. Commander length, normal profile 1911 slide w/no rail, so finding holster will be a little easier.

Haven't shot it yet though, so no help there.

GVFlyer
12-23-2011, 06:44
I have a Sig Sauer Nitron Black 1911 that is one of my better 1911s and the gun I choose to carry when I want to tote a full sized 1911. I had a Kimber Pro Raptor II which was a complete POS.

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq166/GVFlyer/GeneralAtomics/003-15-1.jpg

brickboy240
12-23-2011, 19:33
My Kimber has been 100% reliable for three years and was that way right out of the box. Very accurate, too.

The HD is the all steel 4 inch Kimber.....probably a very nice shooter.

- brickboy240

ca survivor
12-27-2011, 12:39
Sig has a traditional 1911 line that I like quite a bit. I picked up a traditional compact stainless yesterday. Commander length, normal profile 1911 slide w/no rail, so finding holster will be a little easier.

Haven't shot it yet though, so no help there.

please tell me more, pics?

ImpeachObama
12-27-2011, 13:54
Look here. Illustrations are a little ugly.
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/pistols-1911-traditional-models.aspx

itstime
12-27-2011, 14:10
I have never owned or shot a SIG 1911, but I can attest to the Kimber. I own 16 Kimbers and for the last almost 7 years, I have been carrying a Stainless Pro Carry II.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-23.jpg

That's one in the pick right there.

HAIL CAESAR
12-27-2011, 15:21
I've had both....I'd pick the Sig.

Giggity
12-27-2011, 18:48
Traditional 1911's dont have external extractors lol.

cole
12-27-2011, 19:29
I run a Kimber Compact Series I. Great gun, and my CCO first choice under $1000. I do wish it was a 4.25" bushing and that the front strap was checkered. Sig would be near the top of my list as my second choice for a sub-$1000 4.25" bushing CCO 1911.

owl6roll
12-27-2011, 22:17
Kimber SIS, no problems in the 3 years. Carry it as a duty weapon.

Zombie Steve
12-27-2011, 23:40
I have never owned or shot a SIG 1911, but I can attest to the Kimber. I own 16 Kimbers and for the last almost 7 years, I have been carrying a Stainless Pro Carry II.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-23.jpg

Damn. Getting the turd off the production line must be one of my super powers. :fred:

Rally Vincent
12-31-2011, 20:34
Hate to chime in so late but my 1st Gen Sig GSR has been an absolute dream. 7K round count and no problems so far. I've never owned a more reliable 1911.

Glock_en_speil
12-31-2011, 21:13
Traditional 1911's dont have external extractors lol.
This was the deal breaker for me with Sig and S&W too. :upeyes: I'm hoping that at some point S&W decides to revise their models and go internal extractors. I really like the E-Series but can't get past the look of the external extractor.

itstime
12-31-2011, 21:24
I understand tradition and all but what I carry must work. Internal external inny outy don't care. As long as it works.

Giggity
12-31-2011, 23:10
I understand tradition and all but what I carry must work. Internal external inny outy don't care. As long as it works.

Internal extractors have been working fine for 100 years.

Externals bug me. Im weird that way. I also understand that some people dont care either way.

ImpeachObama
01-01-2012, 00:41
Enjoy the external extractor porn. It's flawless, smooth as butter.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/917/sig4291nosnsized.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/87/sig4291nosnsized.jpg/)

Giggity
01-01-2012, 09:01
Enjoy the external extractor porn. It's flawless, smooth as butter.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/917/sig4291nosnsized.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/87/sig4291nosnsized.jpg/)

Oh Jeez, and a rail too. EGADS!..

:supergrin:

ca survivor
01-01-2012, 12:32
This was the deal breaker for me with Sig and S&W too. :upeyes: I'm hoping that at some point S&W decides to revise their models and go internal extractors. I really like the E-Series but can't get past the look of the external extractor.
as long it extracts I don't care were is, I'm really liking the Sig Traditional compact, I have the S&W SC and no problems so far, true maybe only 600 or 650 rounds through it.

MD357
01-01-2012, 13:31
I've had both....I'd pick the Sig.

Same here, Sig uses better small parts and doesn't use a FPS that has been known to fail.

Cobra64
01-02-2012, 22:27
Traditional 1911's dont have external extractors lol.

Nor do they have tac rails.

Cobra64
01-02-2012, 22:30
This was the deal breaker for me with Sig and S&W too. :upeyes: I'm hoping that at some point S&W decides to revise their models and go internal extractors. I really like the E-Series but can't get past the look of the external extractor.

I doubt that they will. They got it right and use them in their Performance Center line.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Performance%20Center/PCRIGHT02-PICASSA.jpg




http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/1911/Marks%20Performance%20Center/P1030839-PICASSA.jpg

Cobra64
01-02-2012, 22:48
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/917/sig4291nosnsized.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/87/sig4291nosnsized.jpg/)

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Happy%20Faces/davidope10.gif

Zombie Steve
01-02-2012, 23:21
I was just thinking Hypnotoad...

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o352/Zeppelin_Maiden/hypnotoad.gif

Cobra64
01-02-2012, 23:51
I was just thinking Hypnotoad...

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o352/Zeppelin_Maiden/hypnotoad.gif

:rofl: :rofl:



Let's not forget the number of new Sig models since Cohen became CEO in 2004.

http://www.webdesignmash.com/trial/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/davidope11.gif

Bozz
01-04-2012, 20:52
I absolutely love my Sig 1911 -- it runs like a champ. NO complaints so far, and I bought the low-end one (XO) and did a little work to it.

glock2740
01-04-2012, 21:21
Enjoy the external extractor porn. It's flawless, smooth as butter.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/917/sig4291nosnsized.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/87/sig4291nosnsized.jpg/)
Good looking gun. :thumbsup: I'll counter with my EE customized Kimber. :)

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/KimberCustomTargetIIs005.jpg

SigFTW
01-06-2012, 07:37
I am a long time Sig owner, carry the P229, .40, If the Sig 1911 are built with the same or better quality I will own one this year.
I do have a Kimber Stainless II and it has been nothing but reliable. It will eat LSWC and HPs.

ImpeachObama
01-08-2012, 01:32
So your liken' my grips, eh? Got them from Jimmy the Grip at jsgungrips.com.
I call my Sig the 2011, not 1911. Shoots like a dream.

mrsurfboard
01-08-2012, 01:42
This was the deal breaker for me with Sig and S&W too. :upeyes: I'm hoping that at some point S&W decides to revise their models and go internal extractors. I really like the E-Series but can't get past the look of the external extractor.

Why would S&W want to change from a modern extractor design that works, to an older style one that you have to fiddle with to get it to work right.

fnfalman
01-08-2012, 01:55
Didn't some big name company have issue with the modern external extractor?

mrsurfboard
01-08-2012, 03:58
Didn't some big name company have issue with the modern external extractor?

Kimber did. S&W and Sig have had no problems with theirs.

MD357
01-08-2012, 08:39
Kimber did. S&W and Sig have had no problems with theirs.

Actually S&W has had problems with theirs. Yam has a nice write up on it. Notice their E-series and PC designs are different from their regular guns.

mrsurfboard
01-08-2012, 12:22
Actually S&W has had problems with theirs. Yam has a nice write up on it. Notice their E-series and PC designs are different from their regular guns.

I guess I meant to say, they don't have any problems now. If you are talking about the pin issues on the E series, I would say it was more an issue with the pin used and not the extractor itself.