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racer88
12-25-2011, 08:09
Big surprise for me today. Wifey pays attention to the things I drool over. It turns out Chiappa Rhinos are as rare as the African animal around here.

Got the two-inch version. This revolver is just way cool (and so different). That's why I like it. It fits in with my other "unconventional design" guns (like my FNHs). I like guns that are different, and this one fits the bill perfectly. Can't wait to go try it out. Word is that the felt recoil is significantly lower due to the low bore axis (shoots out of the bottom of the cylinder). The grips are rubber and feel very comfortable.

Now, I know some think this thing is "butt ugly." But, arguably Glocks are "ugly," too. I find beauty in functionality. And, like Glocks, I think the Rhino is very much a "form follows function" design. And, I just love that.

Pics... hot off the presses!

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0001.jpg


http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0003.jpg

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0008.jpg

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0005.jpg

JaPes
12-25-2011, 08:18
Congrats!

faawrenchbndr
12-25-2011, 08:22
That HAS to be the FUGLIEST firearm ever manufactured!
I dearly want to shoot one,.......congratulations on the acquisition!

Merry Christmas!

pesticidal
12-25-2011, 08:22
I just brought in a 200D for resale, doesn't have the "hammer" for concealment. I haven't decided whether to put it on the shelf to sell or keep it for myself....

racer88
12-25-2011, 08:24
That HAS to be the FUGLIEST firearm ever manufactured!
I dearly want to shoot one,.......congratulations on the acquisition!

Merry Christmas!

LOL! I won't disagree (about the esthetics). LOL! Think of it like a bulldog... so ugly you just wanna love it. ;)

Doc8404
12-25-2011, 08:33
not sure if i'd like, or remember, the "proper grip" with this pistol

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/sites/default/files/manuals/Grip%20instructions.pdf

Stevekozak
12-25-2011, 08:40
Congrats!! It is a strange looking apparatus, but reportedly works really well. I would love to shoot one!

racer88
12-25-2011, 08:41
not sure if i'd like, or remember, the "proper grip" with this pistol

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/sites/default/files/manuals/Grip%20instructions.pdf

It's really no different than any other revolver, right? To borrow from the Brits admonition when boarding the "tube"... "Mind the gap." :)

Doc8404
12-25-2011, 08:48
They certainly make it sound different! let me know how she shoots, i've thought about the D model myself....seriously thought, it's so ugly it's beautiful!

barth
12-25-2011, 08:50
Congratulations!
I love 357s, just got a S&W 640-1 recently myself.
I was married, twice, and my girls never got my a gun - LOL!

Actually I think I know why...

Merry Xmas my friend.
Oh, BTW, it seems like 357 Magnums never got the love of these
new high tech, bonded, SD bullets as much as the autos.

I'm running Winchester PDX1 Bonded Defenders in my snubbie.
Low flash, Low recoil and Talon like bullets - Oh My...
http://www.sportsmanshuntingwarehouse.com/shop/media/images/product_detail/wincpics357mpdb.jpg

bac1023
12-25-2011, 08:58
Congrats! :cool:

racer88
12-25-2011, 09:08
A couple more shots to highlight the unique flat-sided cylinder.

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0011.jpg

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0014.jpg

happyguy
12-25-2011, 09:29
Congratulations! Let us know how it shoots and carry's.

It's kind of reminiscent of the Mateba.

How wide is it? It doesn't look any wider at the cylinder than a 5 shot J-frame.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

racer88
12-25-2011, 09:34
Congratulations! Let us know how it shoots and carry's.

It's kind of reminiscent of the Mateba.

How wide is it? It doesn't look any wider at the cylinder than a 5 shot J-frame.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Apparently, designed by the same guy as the Mateba (or inspired by it, I forget).

I googled it and found that it has a width of 1.4".

Aux Bear
12-25-2011, 09:38
Sure Looks different. Give us a range report and your impressions of it after you get a chance to shoot it. Congrats!

happyguy
12-25-2011, 09:58
Apparently, designed by the same guy as the Mateba (or inspired by it, I forget).

I googled it and found that it has a width of 1.4".

I read a range report somewhere that said it had a pretty stout double action trigger pull. What do you think of the trigger pull on yours?

I see it has a pinned front sight. I wish S&W would do that with all their revolvers.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

racer88
12-25-2011, 10:19
I read a range report somewhere that said it had a pretty stout double action trigger pull. What do you think of the trigger pull on yours?

I see it has a pinned front sight. I wish S&W would do that with all their revolvers.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Double action is reportedly 10 - 12 lbs. Yeah, it feels "heavy," especially compared to a Glock. But, my wife's 642 Airweight is just as heavy. Fairly typical for revolvers. But, with some practice, I think I could stage it for more precise shooting.

In single action mode, it's SWEET. Very crisp.

I really like the neoprene grip. Very comfortable. Looking forward to seeing how it all feels at the range. I'm guessing the range will be crazy-busy tomorrow. May wait a few days.

Nestor
12-25-2011, 10:29
Congratulations! Regarding the trigger pull. Local shop did a trigger weight test on my request on the 5" model. DA is a hair over 8lbs and SA is 4lbs. Not that bad actually.

racer88
12-25-2011, 12:59
"Say hello to my little friend." :)

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0015.jpg

glock2740
12-25-2011, 13:09
That is one ugly ass gun, but I gotta say congrats anyway, because it's Christmas. :) Merry Christmas. :wavey: :tree:

Try these babies out in it. :)

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/50rds-357-mag-speer-le-gold-dot-125gr-hollow-point/cName/357-magnum-hollow-point-ammo

racer88
12-25-2011, 13:13
That is one ugly ass gun, but I gotta say congrats anyway, because it's Christmas. :) Merry Christmas. :wavey: :tree:

So ugly, it's beautiful! ;) I think it's cool and oozes "bad-ass-ness." Thanks, though! :wavey: And, Merry Christmas to you.

glock2740
12-25-2011, 13:15
So ugly, it's beautiful! ;) I think it's cool and oozes "bad-ass-ness." Thanks, though! :wavey: And, Merry Christmas to you.
Hey, what do I know about good looking guns anyway? I own 8 Glocks. :rofl:

racer88
12-25-2011, 13:23
Hey, what do I know about good looking guns anyway? I own 8 Glocks. :rofl:

haha... I own 3 Glocks and 4 FNHs. Neither is known for making "beautiful" guns in the traditional sense. I love "form follow function" in anything and find that beautiful in its own sense. :wiggle:

janice6
12-25-2011, 13:55
I carry the 2" in a IWB, and I have the 6" for range playing. I am totally amazed at the lack of muzzle flip. The noise is horrendous, but the recoil is a "push back". I have tried it off-hand without problem, I tried it loose grip, off hand and weak side, with no problem. You will get people that say they have no difficulties with a standard revolver in this caliber, BUT, At the range I always let the standard revolver owners shoot mine, and I have never gotten a response that didn't start with "AMAZING".


I cannot shoot Magtech range ammo, many FTF with deep dents in primer. Second or third time they fire. Name brands are good to go. Chiappa refused to even acknowledge my FTF in Magtech and cut all communications with me. I do believe it is the ammo.

I cannot say enough for the performance of this pistol.

Only problem I have had was with a holster. I bought a commercial one and it was downright dangerous, it collapsed, caught on trigger guard every time, wore the finish.

I finally made my own like a CB style and it's great. It conceals better then the S & W 642 or G27. Hope you like yours as much as I like mine.

Good luck and welcome to a MAJOR caliber.

TheGrimReaper
12-25-2011, 13:58
Just too cool!!!

racer88
12-25-2011, 13:59
I carry the 2" in a IWB, and I have the 6" for range playing. I am totally amazed at the lack of muzzle flip. The noise is horrendous, but the recoil is a "push back". I have tried it off-hand without problem, I tried it loose grip, off hand and weak side, with no problem. You will get people that say they have no difficulties with a standard revolver in this caliber, BUT, At the range I always let the standard revolver owners shoot mine, and I have never gotten a response that didn't start with "AMAZING".


I cannot shoot Magtech range ammo, many FTF with deep dents in primer. Second or third time they fire. Name brands are good to go.

I cannot say enough for the performance of this pistol.

Only problem I have had was with a holster. I bought a commercial one and it was downright dangerous, it collapsed, caught on trigger guard every time, wore the finish.

I finally made my own like a CB style and it's great. It conceals better then the S & W 642 or G27. Hope you like yours as much as I like mine.

Good luck and welcome to a MAJOR caliber.

Great post. Thanks! Which holster was the problematic one (so I don't buy it)? Can't wait to fire this bad boy!

janice6
12-25-2011, 14:01
Great post. Thanks! Which holster was the problematic one (so I don't buy it)? Can't wait to fire this bad boy!

It was a "one off" and performed like it. I hesitate to badmouth the company but you wont find it advertised as their product.

You will love it!

janice6
12-25-2011, 14:04
I forgot to mention, I took my 13 year old Grandson shooting and he went through 30 rounds with no problem, and no pain. He liked the .22 instead because it had a red dot. He had never shot a pistol in his life and said it was great, but no big deal shooting the Rhino.

Bruce M
12-25-2011, 14:09
Very intriguing revolver. Merry Christmas!

blastfact
12-25-2011, 14:10
I know of three folks that have shot them. All liked them to the point of marvel. BUT all are a tad put off by the truely clock work found buried deep within the weapon. Seems most here are waiting for a price drop and then they will snap one up. Including me.

janice6
12-25-2011, 14:14
Yes they have "busy" insides. Guess the OP and I will have to find out what time does with them......

ctfireman
12-25-2011, 14:16
Super cool. I prefer the snubby myself. I'd like to shoot one some day.

cal45
12-25-2011, 14:37
The more and more I see these revolvers, the more I think I need a White Rhino snub aka the stainless version. Congrats and do post some range reports (and carry too, if you choose to do so).

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1979/rhinoa.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8055/rhinov.jpg

Mazer
12-25-2011, 14:51
Congrats, OP. I am very interested in the Rhino, but I haven't even seen one in the stores.

racer88
12-25-2011, 16:02
The more and more I see these revolvers, the more I think I need a White Rhino snub aka the stainless version. Congrats and do post some range reports (and carry too, if you choose to do so).

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1979/rhinoa.jpg


Apparently, the White Rhinos are as rare as the real animal. I'd like to get a 5" or 6" framed White Rhino in the future (with the Olive wood grips). That will look sweet!

cal45
12-28-2011, 15:39
The more and more I see these revolvers, the more I think I need a White Rhino snub aka the stainless version. Congrats and do post some range reports (and carry too, if you choose to do so).

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1979/rhinoa.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8055/rhinov.jpg


Stopped by my LGS today and wouldn't you know it, they have two of these in (one black, the other white as above). Got to fondle one and it does have a nice feel - now have to decide if I need to sell something in order to buy it. ;)

itstime
12-28-2011, 15:56
"Say hello to my little friend." :)

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-25-11_0015.jpg

Looks more weird from the front...

mixflip
12-28-2011, 16:03
I shot one at the last Shot Show. I liked it alot. Still dont know how I feel about the rear sights being "on" the hammer spur but hey its a unique gun 100% even down to the sights... thats for sure. The snubby is so ugly yet so cool. I still want one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cez7klWfKKY

jamaicanj
12-29-2011, 17:43
Congrats.

racer88
12-29-2011, 19:27
Fired it today for the first time. I will write up a more thorough review. But, I'll say this: I shot it side-by-side with a S&W 642 Airweight with the same ammo. The difference is NIGHT AND DAY when it comes to felt recoil.

racer88
12-30-2011, 12:26
OK... I'm totally an amateur at reviewing guns. But, here goes:

For comparison, I fired my wife’s Smith & Wesson 642 Airweight side-by-side with my new Rhino. I used the same .38-Special ammunition in both. The snubnose Rhino weighs 9 ounces more than the S&W Airweight. But, that alone can't possibly account for the tremendous contrast in felt recoil.

Rhino and Airweight:

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-29-11_0002.jpg

Airweight sitting on top of Rhino:

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-29-11_0005.jpg

Shooting the Airweight is simply painful. It stings. Twenty rounds is enough to feel competent with the gun, but any more than that is just gluttony for punishment. It's not a "range gun." But, it serves its intended purpose well.

The Rhino actually enjoyable to shoot. To answer the pressing question: The felt recoil and muzzle-flip are MUCH less with the Rhino. The difference is truly astounding. I suspect ANYONE who shoots the Rhino would be instantly sold on the gun based on just how it shoots. It is that remarkable.

While I don't consider myself a crack shot, I can hit the target consistently. I'm not well-practiced with snubnoses, but I dare say this one is darned accurate. I did find the sight picture to be different than what I'm used to (with my Glocks and FNHs).

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/sightimages.jpg

With most of my handguns, I find Sight Picture #3 to be right for me. On the other hand, with the Rhino, I did better with Sight Picture #1.

The Rhino has a fairly wide trigger, which I liked. It makes the double action seem easier to me. The single action mode was light and crisp.

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino_12-29-11_0010-edited.jpg

The standard grip is a "wood-grained" neoprene rubber, which contributes to the comfort of firing this revolver. You can buy different sized grips and wood grips from the manufacturer.

The Rhino was so comfortable to shoot, that I put 150 rounds of .38-SPL through it. I have not had a chance to try .357-Mag, yet. I've got some coming in the mail.

Here's an illustration of how the lower bore axis (red) affects the physics of felt recoil by reducing the lever arm (green) as it torques your arm / wrist (blue).

http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b425/racer88_bucket/Gun%20Stuff/Rhino-physics_12-30-11_0009.jpg

The ammo I shot during this range session was a mix of Champion, WWB, and Black Hills. Some of it was pretty "dirty." Lots of smoke. Lots of residue on the gun. And, I suppose I can expect 150 rounds to gunk up the gun a fair bit. Towards the end of my session, the action seemed to be binding up. Cocking for single action became VERY difficult to impossible. And double action was stiff on some of the chambers. When I opened the cylinder, and tried to spin it, it was stiff and would "hang" at certain positions. The front of the cylinder was covered in residue. So, I decided to call it a day.

I'm curious, since I'm not an experienced "wheel-gun" guy if this stiffening or gumming up of the action (after 150 rounds) is normal for a revolver?

A good cleaning at home made everything smooth as silk again. Cylinder spins freely like it's on ball bearings. And the double and single action modes were smooth again.

Time will tell if the Rhino proves to be mechanically reliable long term. But, I definitely enjoyed shooting it. I'd like to get a 5 or 6-inch framed "White Rhino" with olive wood grips next!

cal45
12-30-2011, 20:51
Nice report - thanks for the pics, too. How close in size is the Rhino vs the SW 642? Your pics make it look like a close match size wise.

racer88
12-30-2011, 21:03
Nice report - thanks for the pics, too. How close in size is the Rhino vs the SW 642? Your pics make it look like a close match size wise.

I don't have the specs of the respective guns in front of me. You can google them, of course. I think they are similar in size. They are a bit differently shaped. The Rhino is about a half-pound heavier. Best I can do is refer to the photos in my post. In one of the photos, I laid the 642 right on top of the Rhino. Very close in dimensions, I think.

docwade
12-31-2011, 09:51
I like the weird stuff too. That white rhino is on my list.

racer88
01-14-2012, 18:08
Updated range report (#2)... I got some Gold Dot .357 ammo to try out. As I previously reported, .38 was pretty easy in the recoil department. Many skeptics then said, "Oh yeah? Try it with .357 and see what happens!"

And, so I did. I wasn't sure what to expect, since I've never fired ANY .357 before. No doubt, .357 ammo had more recoil. The report was certainly louder than .38 (BOOOOOM!), and the fireball was noticeable. But, hear this... While admittedly a subjective opinion... the recoil from the Rhino with .357 ammo was LESS than the Airweight with .38 ammo.

The Airweight (with .38) is simply uncomfortable to fire for any extended period. Twenty or so rounds and I'm done. I could go on all day with .38 in the Rhino... and on this day, I put about 75 rounds of .357 through the Rhino with no comfort issues at all.

Still really liking this unusual revolver!

bry@n
01-14-2012, 18:35
Congrats on the rhino. Great gun. My buddy has a 4" model. Handles hot 357 loads well.

goldenlight
01-14-2012, 21:38
That HAS to be the FUGLIEST firearm ever manufactured!
I dearly want to shoot one,.......congratulations on the acquisition!

Merry Christmas!

I think so too.....but i would LOVE to shoot one, just to 'see'.

racer88
02-07-2012, 21:46
I made a video comparing the recoil of these two revolvers.

Yes, I know the Airweight is lighter. Nevertheless, I think the video effectively shows how the Rhino pushes BACK, whereas a traditional revolver rotates up (muzzle-flip).

Gun Stuff :: RhinovsAirweight.mp4 video by racer88_bucket - Photobucket@@AMEPARAM@@file=http%3A%2F%2Fvid1042.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb425%2Fracer88_bucket%2F Gun%2520Stuff%2FRhinovsAirweight.mp4@@AMEPARAM@@file=http%3A%2F%2Fvid1042.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2 Fb425%2Fracer88_bucket%2FGun%2520Stuff%2FRhinovsAirweight.mp4

janice6
02-07-2012, 21:56
I just brought in a 200D for resale, doesn't have the "hammer" for concealment. I haven't decided whether to put it on the shelf to sell or keep it for myself....


The hammer is not like revolver hammers. It's purpose is to cock the gun for single action. If you don't have the external "hammer" you have a double action only.

Be sure to take some .38's with you just for fun. My 200 feels like a cap gun when I'm shooting .38's

You will fall in love with the 200 as soon as you start to shoot .357 Magnums.

I have the 4 Inch also and it has walnut grips. I switched the grips onto the 200, shot it and immediately switched back to the "rubber", they are the right grips for this gun. It makes IWB real easy to draw too. The walnut grip is fine for the longer barrel.

janice6
02-07-2012, 21:59
I don't have the specs of the respective guns in front of me. You can google them, of course. I think they are similar in size. They are a bit differently shaped. The Rhino is about a half-pound heavier. Best I can do is refer to the photos in my post. In one of the photos, I laid the 642 right on top of the Rhino. Very close in dimensions, I think.


Look in the GT Photo Gallery for comparisons.

cal45
02-08-2012, 05:04
S&W 642 and Chiappa Rhino

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3408/wr642.jpg

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6021/wr642a.jpg

solconviction
07-12-2012, 08:57
I realize this an old thread but I wanted to share my 50ds..


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janice6
07-12-2012, 10:47
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/dsc7262.jpg (http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/dsc7262.jpg)


I also like to share my 40 DS.

Shoots like a dream and no muzzle flip.

Good companion to Rhino snubbie. My CCW

I do wish it didn't have the rail. I'd like to carry it for CCW but the rail causes holster problems for me.

racer88
07-12-2012, 11:22
I realize this an old thread but I wanted to share my 50ds..


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Nice. I think that's the size I'd like to get next (5")... Just right between 4" and 6".

nursetim
07-12-2012, 13:01
Any holster manufacuters make an iwb for this beast?

fnfalman
07-12-2012, 13:13
Any holster manufacuters make an iwb for this beast?

None that I know of, but I'm sure a good custom saddlery can stitch one up for you.

oldnoob
07-12-2012, 13:35
Very nice. I don't get all those ugly commends. I like the look. Though, it will look even nicer with a wood grip.

oldnoob
07-12-2012, 13:37
I realize this an old thread but I wanted to share my 50ds..

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226489&d=1342105025

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http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/dsc7262.jpg (http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/dsc7262.jpg)


I also like to share my 40 DS.

Shoots like a dream and no muzzle flip.

Good companion to Rhino snubbie. My CCW

I do wish it didn't have the rail. I'd like to carry it for CCW but the rail causes holster problems for me.


Those looks really cool.

FireForged
07-12-2012, 13:53
the weight distribution looks like it would feel awkward in the hand but purhaps not. Odd looking for sure but congratz!

janice6
07-12-2012, 15:23
None that I know of, but I'm sure a good custom saddlery can stitch one up for you.



Yes.

I bought a Theisholsters.com for mine and it works great.

similar to FB and the like.

janice6
07-12-2012, 15:27
Very nice. I don't get all those ugly commends. I like the look. Though, it will look even nicer with a wood grip.


I found the wood grip on my 40DS is smooth in the front and back. Rapid shooting causes my 40DS to "slip and ride up slightly.

I would like the wood front and back to be checkered.

I'm looking into having it done but apprehensive about picking someone to do it. Don't want it screwed up.

Otherwise, I am considering inlaying some exotic wood in the front and back with heavy grain texture to eliminate the slipping.

I do think the rubber grip is the best.

solconviction
07-12-2012, 16:07
I really like that pic of your 40ds @janice6. I think I'd like a 2" snub nose next then maybe the same 40ds you have..and racer88 I do think 5" is a good size

Finally shot it a few days ago and really enjoyed the slight to none muzzle flip and recoil shooting WWB .38s.

.357mag (federal 158gr. JSP) on the other hand is a beast! The recoil is pretty stout but bearable..this was the first time I'd shot .357mag in any revolver so I didn't know what to expect..lol


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DFin
07-13-2012, 10:33
Looks like a prop gun from Planet of the Apes.

janice6
07-15-2012, 13:55
some have commented on the "busy" clockworks in the pistol.

Here is a link showing the use of roller bearings on pivot points in the works.

They recommend Molybdenum di sulfide as a dry lube for the internals. No oil.

I have used Dry Moly in vacuum systems and it is extremely slick for lubricating.