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collim1
12-29-2011, 06:56
Big Sig fan here, but am disappointed to see it appears the Sig classic line guns all only ship with the E2 grip and new extractor design.

Not much mention of it on Sig Forum.

Anyone know if this is permanent? I do not care for the looks of it all.

Also I heard that the new P229's do not fit in the existing Safarliand duty holsters, which is a big problem as my agency will be in the market for new duty guns in the next year.

Can the E2 grips be replaced with the standard two piece grips with screws? Is the extractor reliable? Are they not going to offer the old style P series anymore?

s&wfan
12-29-2011, 08:19
Big Sig fan here, but am disappointed to see it appears the Sig classic line guns all only ship with the E2 grip and new extractor design.

Not much mention of it on Sig Forum.

Anyone know if this is permanent? I do not care for the looks of it all.

Also I heard that the new P229's do not fit in the existing Safarliand duty holsters, which is a big problem as my agency will be in the market for new duty guns in the next year.

Can the E2 grips be replaced with the standard two piece grips with screws? Is the extractor reliable? Are they not going to offer the old style P series anymore?

There should be plenty of old style P series guns out there for you to stock up on, if that's what you like. I'm not sure if it's for good or not. Never held an E2. What do you not like about them?

3rdgen40
12-29-2011, 08:24
I haven't handled one yet, but they do look a bit funky to me.What is different with the extractor?

jwhite75
12-29-2011, 08:28
They should be able to be switched out grip wise...as the old grips can be switched for the new. I do like the feel of the E2 grips but they are too abrasive, and I carry primarily IWB. Sig has been doing some weird stuff lately. I dont like the direction they are taking.

I love my P228.

collim1
12-29-2011, 09:54
There should be plenty of old style P series guns out there for you to stock up on, if that's what you like. I'm not sure if it's for good or not. Never held an E2. What do you not like about them?

Not worried about me personally. I work for an agency that needs to purchase 150+ guns. It will be a no go if they also have to replace everyones Safariland holsters.

If they hoslters have to be replaced as well they may very well choose to buy a cheaper gun to make up the difference.

I am quite fond of my duty gun, and my dept mandates that all officers carry the same gun (er....guns) either a P226 or P229.

As far as the looks go, I just dont adjust well to change I guess.

You carry a gun on duty for so many years and you get used to it. I have carried this weapon for 98% of my carreer.

My off-duty carry gun is a P239 that I chose just because it was very similar to my duty weapon.

crazymoose
12-29-2011, 13:02
I agree, the grips mess with me when I look at the new SIGs. The beefy top end of the gun just looks weird with the tiny little grip. I will say that I thought the old SIGs were about the nicest looking modern pistols, and now they're some of the worst.

fowler
12-29-2011, 13:11
The standard grips fit my med-large hands fine. E2 does nothing the standard can,t for me.If I had small hands maybe the E2 would be right.

cyberiad
12-29-2011, 19:56
I don't work for Sig but you should talk to their LE sales group. They ought to be able to sell you 150 P229s with the standard non-E2 grip and tell you whether they will fit existing holsters. I don't see why they wouldn't fit current holsters since, as far as I know, the frame has not changed.

I don't have a Sig with an external extractor but it should be reliable and easier to remove and replace if necessary.

cowboy1964
12-29-2011, 20:05
I agree the 226 looks strange with the E2 grip. The 229 looks much better.

Either way though there are plenty of other uglier guns out there.

WarEagle32
12-30-2011, 01:07
I love my 229 E2 9mm. Different people are going to have different opinions. Ford, dodge chevy etc. I love the aggressively abrasive E2 grip and wish it was even rougher so that my hands can stay that much more stable to help my performance. I've heard some people mad at Sig for changing certain things, but I'm not. I have bought three new Sigs this past year and a 226 E2 is on my list right now! I love their 290 which has became my go to pocket pistol and I also love my Sig 1911 GSR having no mim parts is a real tack driver!

NEOH212
12-30-2011, 04:44
Although I like the way the E2 grip feels, I'll stick with the old grips. They fit me just find and I'll withhold my opinion on the new extractor design until more testing is done to see how it holds up.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that since Sig changed the design of the 226 and 229 slides, the old sight tool won't work on the new slides?

NeverMore1701
12-30-2011, 04:46
My 238 has been 100%, but it's not what you're asking about.

collim1
12-30-2011, 05:50
Although I like the way the E2 grip feels, I'll stick with the old grips. They fit me just find and I'll withhold my opinion on the new extractor design until more testing is done to see how it holds up.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that since Sig changed the design of the 226 and 229 slides, the old sight tool won't work on the new slides?

Sight tool does not work and some are saying LE duty retention holsters will not fit the newer Sigs.

Chonny
12-30-2011, 12:32
The P229 9mm now accepts 15 round factory mags.

WarEagle32
12-31-2011, 00:44
The P229 9mm now accepts 15 round factory mags.


Yes it does, and 15+1 sure is sweet in that platform. I honestly didn't think there was a chance in hell of any gun even come close to challenging my Glock 19 as my EDC pistol. However, I have been spending a lot of time shooting the two guns back to back over and over along with a ton of side by side dry firing and the Sig 229 9mm E2 is really giving my beloved G19 a run for it's money! Both are fine guns but the Sig has a bit better grip. Although I really don't know if any gun will take the place of my 19!

Gregg702
12-31-2011, 00:50
I saw a P239 Rainbow at my LGS today. It made me sad.

RedSoxMD
07-17-2012, 12:43
I think Sig should make all of their 9mm p series guns w the old slides. Leave the stainless for the larger calibers. BTW, I love my E2 grip, but I have small hands




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WarEagle32
07-17-2012, 16:44
I think the E2 is the best thing about Sigs now. JMO

El_Ron1
07-17-2012, 18:48
2001 maybe... 1991, 1981, 1975... yes. 2011... :puking:

bac1023
07-17-2012, 20:11
I don't like any of the new Sigs built in the USA. :dunno:

Diesel McBadass
07-17-2012, 20:34
I don't like any of the new Sigs built in the USA. :dunno:

Any reason? Im not a big sig guy but fired hundreds of rounds in exeter guns and never had a jam, even in rusted mags we constantly pitch in the dirt.

collim1
07-18-2012, 06:39
Any reason? Im not a big sig guy but fired hundreds of rounds in exeter guns and never had a jam, even in rusted mags we constantly pitch in the dirt.

My three Exeter Sigs are all great, never had a problem with them.

SigFTW
07-18-2012, 07:02
The US Sig's are fine (IMO). I have both German and US and they are both top quality and very reliable.

But I do favor my 1994 P229 non rail German Sig, the trigger has yet to be duplicated with my other Sigs out of the box. Maybe because it has a lot more rounds than the others.:dunno:

Diesel McBadass
07-18-2012, 07:06
Sigs ergonomically do not work for me but they are rock solid.

dnuggett
07-18-2012, 10:09
My three Exeter Sigs are all great, never had a problem with them.

Same here, after thousands of rounds.

NEOH212
07-19-2012, 02:18
I love Sigs. I don't like what Sig has done to the 229 as of late. Also, I don't like the direction the company is going as a whole. Supposedly, there were a few issues with the new extractor in some guns.

I can't confirm this as I've never experienced it first hand but that's what the word is. Sig screwed up with the new extractor design in my opinion. Why change something that was working perfectly well?

Despite the above, Sig still makes a fantastic gun and I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new one.

Cadcom
07-19-2012, 17:02
Don't knock the E2 until you try it. I liked the looks of my 229 with the older grips but if feels and points so much better with the E2 that I installed. As for the new 229 holstering in the older 229 holsters, it looks like a no go. My 229 is a few years old and my buddies 2 month old 229 will NOT fit in my Serpa.

elde
07-19-2012, 18:41
E2 229 9mm with the "new" extractor. Love the grip, reliable to date with over 1K various rounds through it & great night sights. Bought at a fire sale price because it's a Diamond Plate model. Not pretty but has taken over from my Gen2 G19 as the EDC.

Apetrulis01
07-19-2012, 20:48
The E2 grips are great. I have always loved Sigs but the old grips were told big for my hands. The E2 grips makes the gun feel great in my hand and now I really want either a Sig 226 or Sig 229 E2 in 9mm.

cowboy1964
07-20-2012, 13:32
The E2 grips feel fantastic. I don't have experience with the older grip so I can't compare, but I can't imagine they are better. The holster issue is stupid though, but that's the frame/slide, not the grip.

My biggest beef with the 229 E2 is the SRT trigger. WAY too short of a reset, IMO.