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G21MAN
12-31-2011, 11:22
I have already long ago trialed this round in my 92FS, and it functions without failures of any kind. Then again, after 850 rounds total of various rounds, this gun is flawless. Here's my question. I know that the HST 147 and the Golddot 124 +P rounds are street proven. I really don't want to switch to either round even if they are better than my Speer Golddot 147's as long as the 147's that I have will get the job done. Does the Golddot 147 round have a street record? If not, will it get the job done anyways in a SD situation?

Thanks,

Rob in Gilbert, AZ

Quarter Tank
12-31-2011, 12:28
i like the ballistics of the 147 GD more than the 124+p

ponders
12-31-2011, 12:38
i cant even get either one.. i would take them over the remington golden sabers i carry in 9mm. i cant find them anywhere and i wish i could get my hands on some, i would feel a little better with them than my remingtons. :crying: count yourselfs lucky. :wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:

CDW4ME
12-31-2011, 12:41
If the pistol has already proven reliable with GD 147 gr. I would just stick with it.
The long barrel of the Beretta 92 should be enough for the load to work as designed.

G21MAN
12-31-2011, 19:54
Cheaper than dirt has the Speer 147 grain available for $19 online. Hope this helps.

collim1
12-31-2011, 20:01
The 147g Gold Dot is the Dept issue ammo for 9mm at my agency.

It is what I carry in my Sig P239. I have confidence in it. I prefer the heavy for caliber rounds, and it is a Gold Dot bonded bullet so it will do what it is supposed to.

barth
12-31-2011, 20:04
Little old FBI Protocol test results
9x19 Win Ranger Talon|147@ 864, 18.1 mv, 243 E|BR 13.8", 0.61", 4.03cu|CL 15.2", 0.59", 4.17cu|avg 4.10, 2.72 re, 1.51
9x19 Win Ranger Talon|147@1017, 21.4 mv, 337 E|BR 13.8", 0.66", 4.70cu|CL 15.5", 0.65", 5.14cu|avg 4.92, 3.77 re, 1.31
9x19 Win Ranger +P+ |115@1320, 21.7 mv, 444 E|BR 9.6", 0.53", 2.11cu|CL 10.2", 0.65", 3.37cu|avg 2.74, 3.89 re, 0.70
9x19 3-D |115@1178, 19.4 mv, 354 E|BR 11.6", 0.54", 2.66cu|CL 13.9", 0.48", 2.52cu|avg 2.59, 3.10 re, 0.84
9x19 Rem +P+ |115@1221, 20.1 mv, 380 E|BR 10.8", 0.63", 3.37cu|CL 10.9", 0.62", 3.29cu|avg 3.33, 3.33 re, 1.00
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |115@1259, 20.7 mv, 404 E|BR 12.3", 0.67", 4.35cu|CL 22.1", 0.40", 2.78cu|avg 3.43, 3.54 re, 0.97
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |115@1197, 19.7 mv, 365 E|BR 12.8", 0.67", 4.51cu|CL 22.6", 0.44", 3.44cu|avg 3.78, 3.20 re, 1.18
9x19 CorBon +P |115@1317, 21.6 mv, 442 E|BR 8.9", 0.52", 1.90cu|CL 10.2", 0.61", 2.98cu|avg 2.44, 3.87 re, 0.63
9x19 Fed +P |115@1237, 20.3 mv, 390 E|BR 11.2", 0.53", 2.48cu|CL 10.6", 0.62", 3.20cu|avg 2.84, 3.41 re, 0.83
9x19 Fed Silvertip |115@1091, 17.9 mv, 304 E|BR 10.1", 0.63", 3.13cu|CL 11.8", 0.58", 3.12cu|avg 3.13, 2.66 re, 1.18
9x19 CCI/Speer GD +P |124@1223, 21.7 mv, 411 E|BR 13.4", 0.68", 4.87cu|CL 20.2", 0.53", 4.47cu|avg 4.64, 3.88 re, 1.20
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |124@1116, 19.8 mv, 342 E|BR 11.8", 0.69", 4.41cu|CL 22.0", 0.36", 2.24cu|avg 3.22, 3.23 re, 1.00
9x19 Rem |124@1109, 19.6 mv, 338 E|BR 12.4", 0.60", 3.52cu|CL 13.7", 0.57", 3.50cu|avg 3.51, 3.19 re, 1.10
9x19 PMC/Eldorado SF |124@1118, 19.8 mv, 344 E|BR 10.7", 0.63", 3.32cu|CL 20.1", 0.41", 2.65cu|avg 2.98, 3.24 re, 0.92
9x19 CorBon XTP |124@1123, 19.9 mv, 347 E|BR 13.9", 0.56", 3.44cu|CL 18.3", 0.46", 3.04cu|avg 3.24, 3.27 re, 0.99
9x19 Fed HydraShok |147@ 935, 19.6 mv, 285 E|BR 13.6", 0.60", 3.85cu|CL 16.1", 0.52", 3.41cu|avg 3.63, 3.19 re, 1.14
9x19 Win Black Talon |147@ 946, 19.9 mv, 292 E|BR 14.8", 0.60", 4.20cu|CL 16.4", 0.61", 4.78cu|avg 4.49, 3.26 re, 1.38
9x19 Rem |147@ 987, 20.7 mv, 318 E|BR 18.1", 0.51", 3.71cu|CL 15.9", 0.59", 4.36cu|avg 4.03, 3.55 re, 1.14
9x19 Hornady XTP |147@ 918, 19.3 mv, 275 E|BR 22.1", 0.44", 3.36cu|CL 20.5", 0.46", 3.41cu|avg 3.18, 3.07 re, 1.04
9x19 Fed HydraShok |147@ 995, 20.9 mv, 323 E|BR 21.4", 0.37", 2.30cu|CL 15.6", 0.60", 4.41cu|avg 3.28, 3.61 re, 0.91
9x19 Win Silvertip |147@ 902, 18.9 mv, 265 E|BR 14.6", 0.53", 3.22cu|CL 18.1", 0.47", 3.14cu|avg 3.18, 2.97 re, 1.07
9x19 CCI/Speer GD+P |124@1155, 20.5 mv, 367 E|BR 13.2", 0.62", 3.99cu|CL 16.1", 0.53", 3.55cu|avg 3.77, 3.46 re, 1.09
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |124@1068, 18.9 mv, 314 E|BR 12.6", 0.59", 3.44cu|CL 17.5", 0.51", 3.57cu|avg 3.51, 2.96 re, 1.19
9x19 CCI/Speer GD |147@ 924, 19.4 mv, 278 E|BR 14.8", 0.57", 3.78cu|CL 14.7", 0.55", 3.49cu|avg 3.63, 3.11 re, 1.17
9x19 Win Ranger PG |124@1015, 18.0 mv, 283 E|BR 12.5", 0.65", 4.15cu|CL 14.0", 0.61", 4.09cu|avg 4.12, 2.67 re, 1.54
9x19 Win Ranger T |147@1016, 21.3 mv, 337 E|BR 13.8", 0.66", 4.72cu|CL 15.7", 0.00", 0.00cu|avg 2.36, 3.76 re, 0.63

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9x19 Win Ranger +P+ |115@1320, 21.7 mv, 444 E|BR 9.6", 0.53", 2.11cu|CL 10.2", 0.65", 3.37cu|avg 2.74, 3.89 re, 0.70
9x19 - caliber
Win Ranger +P+ - the name of the load
115@1320 - bullet mass in grains @ muzzle velocity
21.7 mv - bullet momentum in lb*fps
444 E - muzzle energy in ftlbs
BR - what follows is the data for bare gelatin
9.6" inches of penetration
0.53", final expanded diameter of bullet
2.11 cu, approximation of wound volume. (this does not take into account the expansion profile as a function of depth, but it should be roughly proportionate to actual wound volume)
CL - what follows is the data for clothed gelatin
same fields as the bare gelatin, as defined above
avg 2.74 - Average wound volume, clothed and bare gelatin
3.89 re - Free Recoil Energy, assuming a 1.88 lb pistol
0.70 - Average would volume per unit Free Recoil Energy.

cowboy1964
12-31-2011, 21:31
I've noticed in the various gel tests I've seen that the 147gr Gold Dot tended to not have as much expansion but of course more penetration.

It's all good.

Little Joe
01-01-2012, 14:51
i cant even get either one.. i would take them over the remington golden sabers i carry in 9mm. i cant find them anywhere and i wish i could get my hands on some, i would feel a little better with them than my remingtons. :crying: count yourselfs lucky. :wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:

I don't know if you like buying online, but Mahsupplies has them in stock.

http://mahsupplies.net/

backcast88
01-01-2012, 14:59
I really like the 147 Gold Dots and HST. Both shoot very accurately and function 100% out of my 26 gen4.

DonGlock26
01-01-2012, 20:42
MY dept. used it for years. It worked exactly as the gel tests showed. The bad guys never felt under-killled. I like the round.


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cole
01-02-2012, 14:48
i like the ballistics of the 147 GD more than the 124+p

The 147gr GD is my choice as I prefer heavy-for-caliber in general. GD is bonded, which I also prefer. And, I prefer slightly more penetration (147>124) to slightly more expansion (124>147 usually in bonded bullets). I'd be fine with 124gr +p as a second choice to 147gr.

cowboy1964
01-02-2012, 17:11
Gold Dot, HST, Ranger. 124gr and up. You are good to go.

nickcarr
01-02-2012, 17:40
Have you guys seen this?

This round looks pretty impressive. I tried searching online but couldn't find any in stock.

http://www.hornady.com/store/9MM-LUGER-P-135-gr-FlexLock-Critical-DUTY/

Little Joe
01-02-2012, 18:00
Have you guys seen this?

This round looks pretty impressive. I tried searching online but couldn't find any in stock.

http://www.hornady.com/store/9MM-LUGER-P-135-gr-FlexLock-Critical-DUTY/

I've never bought or shot those before. I would rather have 50 rounds of GD, HST, or Ranger T, with proven street results, than 20 of those for relatively the same price. YMMV