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wjv
01-06-2012, 19:53
Ruger 1911 vs. Remington 1911 vs. S&W 1911

Which would you buy?

glock2740
01-06-2012, 19:58
None of the above. :dunno:

20South
01-06-2012, 20:06
Of the three, I would choose the Ruger.

bac1023
01-06-2012, 20:25
They're all in my guide.

majette
01-06-2012, 22:50
springfield. colt.

Rally Vincent
01-07-2012, 03:45
That's like Having to pick between the three fattest chicks in the school for a prom date. Except you don't get any money for going through with it.

okie
01-07-2012, 04:59
Of the three, I would choose the Ruger.

As would I:thumbsup:

bac1023
01-07-2012, 05:25
That's like Having to pick between the three fattest chicks in the school for a prom date.

:rofl:

NeverMore1701
01-07-2012, 05:30
That's like Having to pick between the three fattest chicks in the school for a prom date. Except you don't get any money for going through with it.

In that case it's obvious. The one who's most likely to put out and/or has the biggest jugs.

:tongueout:

MontanaG23
01-07-2012, 08:21
bac1023

Thanks for the 1911 Guide comprehensive, and saved me hours and hours of time doing research!

TomB985
01-07-2012, 09:14
Okay...don't know much about the 1911-style guns other than they are expensive and they all resemble the original to varying degrees.

I held a Ruger SR1911 last week and liked the feel, but what's wrong with it? Is this just brand snobbery with everyone needing a Colt or Kimber to feel satisfied, or is there more to it?

Just curious...

Nakanokalronin
01-07-2012, 09:19
Sr1911

JK-linux
01-07-2012, 09:24
I'm a G.I. kind of guy, so until Ruger comes out with a 1911 that's all one color and doesn't have extended doo-dads on it... I'd go with the Remington. I like the Remington overall, save only the roll marks and shiny finish. That is assuming I have to buy one of the three listed. If not, I'd snag a G.I. version from Norinco or Armscor, and spend the difference on adding some decent sights and a long trigger, then I'd call it a day.

jrs93accord
01-07-2012, 09:57
Ruger 1911 vs. Remington 1911 vs. S&W 1911

Which would you buy?

I would be hard-pressed to tell you since I own each.

Remington 1911-R1 Enhanced and Remington 1911-R1
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/005-8.jpg

RUGER SR1911
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/0011.jpg

S&W 1911 Tactical Rail Series SS
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/008.jpg

They are all fine pistols. If you are looking for the most for your money between the three of them, I would have to say the RUGER. However, the RUGER is a scarce pistol these days. I recently picked up the Remington 1911-R1 Enhanced and am I very impressed with it.

Jim S.
01-07-2012, 10:23
I held a Ruger SR1911 last week and liked the feel, but what's wrong with it? Is this just brand snobbery with everyone needing a Colt or Kimber to feel satisfied, or is there more to it?

Just curious...

It is that way sometimes...
There is nothing wrong with any of these 1911's. They are good guns and either one will be fine.
Understand the differences though.

I personally don't care for the series 80 style firing pin block.
Not that it hurts the trigger because I don't think it does enough to matter.
I just don't like the part about taking them apart and putting them back together again. The Remmington uses this system.

I like 1911's that are traditional and more along the lines of the Mil-Specs.
The S&W uses an external extractor (I believe?) and I like the "normal" extractors.

The Ruger would be my first choice but it is not a Mil-Spec with the enhancements such as the beavertail grip safety and the extended controls, different hammer. But this is the one I would go with of the three.

After studying the buyer's guide that Brian worked so hard on it will be up to you to decide which one is right for you.

Three-Five-Seven
01-07-2012, 12:15
Of those three, I'd choose the Ruger. The S&W is non-traditional and the Remingtons are pretty rough. The Ruger is not the smoothest 1911 out of the box, but is the best choice of those three.

However, Springfield is the gun to have if you only own one 1911. Colt's is the next in line for your second 1911. After that get a Ruger if it blows your skirt up.

Nestor
01-07-2012, 12:26
For a shooter I would be very happy with S&W.
It established itself as pretty damn reliable pistol already.
I have no idea about the other two though. Too early to say I guess.

TomB985
01-07-2012, 14:11
It is that way sometimes...
There is nothing wrong with any of these 1911's. They are good guns and either one will be fine.
Understand the differences though.

I personally don't care for the series 80 style firing pin block.
Not that it hurts the trigger because I don't think it does enough to matter.
I just don't like the part about taking them apart and putting them back together again. The Remmington uses this system.

I like 1911's that are traditional and more along the lines of the Mil-Specs.
The S&W uses an external extractor (I believe?) and I like the "normal" extractors.

The Ruger would be my first choice but it is not a Mil-Spec with the enhancements such as the beavertail grip safety and the extended controls, different hammer. But this is the one I would go with of the three.

After studying the buyer's guide that Brian worked so hard on it will be up to you to decide which one is right for you.

Thanks for the info, that makes sense. Perhaps someone can tell me why these style pistols are so expensive? The Ruger that I held last week was selling for $700, which seems like a lot for a run of the mill automatic handgun. This is $250 more than I paid for my G19 brand new with night sights! What makes them so expensive? The steel frame?

Magus
01-07-2012, 15:00
Of those three, I'd pick the Ruger.

Depends though upon your intent though as well. But weighing it all out, the Ruger would probably be the best overall buy.

ArLEOret
01-07-2012, 15:25
I would skip the 1911s and go with a G21SF! And save some $ to boot.

Nakanokalronin
01-07-2012, 15:45
I would skip the 1911s and go with a G21SF! And save some $ to boot.
Oops, wrong section there bud,General Glocking is the other way. :whistling:

glock2740
01-07-2012, 16:25
Thanks for the info, that makes sense. Perhaps someone can tell me why these style pistols are so expensive? The Ruger that I held last week was selling for $700, which seems like a lot for a run of the mill automatic handgun. This is $250 more than I paid for my G19 brand new with night sights! What makes them so expensive? The steel frame?
Sounds like you may be pretty new to the 1911 world, and quite possibly guns in general. Not being mean or a smartass, that's just what I gathered from your posts. There's a lot to learn, but this is definately a great place to ask questions and get answers. Welcome to GT. :wavey:

glock2740
01-07-2012, 16:27
I would skip the 1911s and go with a G21SF! And save some $ to boot.
Oh Lord. :upeyes:
Oops, wrong section there bud,General Glocking is the other way. :whistling:
:rofl:

TomB985
01-07-2012, 17:30
Sounds like you may be pretty new to the 1911 world, and quite possibly guns in general. Not being mean or a smartass, that's just what I gathered from your posts. There's a lot to learn, but this is definately a great place to ask questions and get answers. Welcome to GT. :wavey:

Not being a smartass at all, I appreciate everyone's input. I have been shooting for about ten years now, and much of that experience has been in varius places I've been with in the Army. Still active duty, but now stationed in Wisconsin as a recruiter so I don't do much training anymore. I've always been a budget minded shooter, which is part of the reason why I sold my .40 cal XD to get a 9mm Glock so I could shoot more! I have fired a 1911 style handgun as well as the majority of common calibers in recent years, as well as some less common ones like the .50 BMG. But with the wide variety of firearms out there I simply don't know everything about everything, which is why I love spending time on forums such as these.

I sincerely appreciate everyone who takes the time to respond, as this is how I learn more!

glock2740
01-07-2012, 17:55
Being budget minded and 1911's is hard to do. :rofl:Seriously though, there are alot of great 1911's in the Glock/XD/M&P price range. Truthfully, most 1911's in the $1000 range are considered middle of the road type 1911's. Brain (bac1023) has a 1911 Guide that he has in his signature line. Give it a look. Lots of useful information on 1911's starting at the "bottom tier" models and working up. Don't think for a minute that if you don't pay a ton of money for a 1911 that it won't be accurate or reliable. But with 1911's, as in life, you get what you pay for. Now there is a fine line on where you start to "over pay" for what you are getting with a 1911, but that's a whole other can of worms to open up. LOTS of varied opinions on that topic. :cool:

John Eastwood
01-07-2012, 21:04
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc476/JohnEastwood/1911Stand22.jpg

fnfalman
01-07-2012, 22:39
I haven't shot or handled neither the Ruger nor the Remington, but I do own a SW Gunsite. I think that I'll stick with Colt. Or Filipino guns before I buy me another SW M1911.

Nestor
01-07-2012, 23:55
Brain (bac1023) has a 1911 Guide that he has in his signature line.

I know that he's smart, but c'mon :rofl:

Jim S.
01-08-2012, 14:32
Perhaps someone can tell me why these style pistols are so expensive? The Ruger that I held last week was selling for $700, which seems like a lot for a run of the mill automatic handgun. This is $250 more than I paid for my G19 brand new with night sights! What makes them so expensive? The steel frame?

$700.00 is a normal price for a good quality (production) 1911.
Forged frame and slide is a plus.
You can get cheaper but it will probably be a cast frame and possibly a cast slide. Not that there is anything wrong with cast these days but I think forged is better and worth the extra cost.
Also I agree with those who mentioned the Springfield Armory Mil-Spec.
It is one of my favorite 6 to 700 dollar 1911's and they have excellent customer service.
A good gun right out of the box and also a good base gun if you ever want to make a project out of it someday.
You really cannot compare the Glocks and other plastic guns to the 1911's.
Sure the plastic guns cost less but they are made out of a lot of plastic with cheap to make plastic parts.
Nothing wrong with that... Just not comparable to a steel 1911.

glock2740
01-08-2012, 14:40
I know that he's smart, but c'mon :rofl:
It took me a minute, but I just caught that. :embarassed:

:rofl:

TomB985
01-08-2012, 22:21
$700.00 is a normal price for a good quality (production) 1911.
Forged frame and slide is a plus.
You can get cheaper but it will probably be a cast frame and possibly a cast slide. Not that there is anything wrong with cast these days but I think forged is better and worth the extra cost.
Also I agree with those who mentioned the Springfield Armory Mil-Spec.
It is one of my favorite 6 to 700 dollar 1911's and they have excellent customer service.
A good gun right out of the box and also a good base gun if you ever want to make a project out of it someday.
You really cannot compare the Glocks and other plastic guns to the 1911's.
Sure the plastic guns cost less but they are made out of a lot of plastic with cheap to make plastic parts.
Nothing wrong with that... Just not comparable to a steel 1911.

Good info, thanks for the detailed reply! So much of the reason for the increased cost is the metal frame as well as the other parts. While I have yet to see a reason why the Glock's plastic frame is insufficient, a more expensive metal frame would be an attractive feature.

I have to admit I've always wanted a 1911, but justifying the extra cost is hard for me. Perhaps I should do some more lookng...

20South
01-08-2012, 22:32
Good info, thanks for the detailed reply! So much of the reason for the increased cost is the metal frame as well as the other parts. While I have yet to see a reason why the Glock's plastic frame is insufficient, a more expensive metal frame would be an attractive feature.

I have to admit I've always wanted a 1911, but justifying the extra cost is hard for me. Perhaps I should do some more lookng...

Some people buy $50k cars while a $10k Kia would do the job just as well. Why people justify the expense of something is personal.

Jim S.
01-09-2012, 18:47
I have to admit I've always wanted a 1911, but justifying the extra cost is hard for me. Perhaps I should do some more looking...

There is nothing like a 1911. If you keep looking you will find many guns.
Many that are more in line with your Glock price tag.
You may even buy another gun out of those you find.
However...
There is nothing like a 1911.
The feel, the great trigger, the acuracy, the history.
It is the only gun that I actually love over all the others.
If you don't get one you will always want one.
The prices will always be going up but you will always want one.
But be forewarned...
once you get one you will be caught in the cycle of wanting another...
and another...
and eventually you will be an addict like me and many of the others...

plouffedaddy
01-09-2012, 18:55
Smith and Wesson. Mine is extremely accurate, reliable, and has a great trigger.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/tiffani33/Guns/IMAG0721.jpg

Here's a link to my SR1911 review (also a great gun for the price):
http://gunreviewguy.blogspot.com/2012/01/ruger-sr1911-review.html

Cobra64
01-10-2012, 00:24
I would skip the 1911s and go with a G21SF! And save some $ to boot.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Happy%20Faces/DeputyDawg.gif

The topic is 1911s, not Glocks.

John Eastwood
01-14-2012, 21:55
I haven't shot or handled neither the Ruger nor the Remington, but I do own a SW Gunsite. I think that I'll stick with Colt. Or Filipino guns before I buy me another SW M1911.

Why is this?

M&P Shooter
01-14-2012, 22:29
I purchased a Remington R1 and then decided to upgrade her. Cylinder & Slide sear, disconnector & springs, Wilson Combat Hammer, Wilson Combat match trigger, polished barrel & bushing and polished feed ramp. Ed Brown grip safety on order. Next 1911 is going to be the Ruger:wavey:

I like knowing what's in my 1911 so unless it's a high end model internals get yanked and changed.
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/Glock40guy/005-6.jpg

dakrat
01-15-2012, 06:49
None of the above. :dunno:

+1. not sure why Springfield is not on this list...

dougthug
01-15-2012, 08:57
Seeing that I'm a new owner of a S&W 1911 DK model 45 acp, I can now add my 2 cents worth and have a legit opinion.
I'll cut to the chase....THIS GUN IS THE BALLZ !!! PERIOD.
Besides a custom Les Baer or Ed Brown or one of the other high end guns this S&W is by far the best 1911 I have ever fired.
Gun is solid, slide is very tight and the accurancy is great. Certainly make me out to be a better shooter than I am.
I wouldn't give mine back at all. :supergrin:

TomB985
01-15-2012, 10:52
+1. not sure why Springfield is not on this list...

I find it interesting that the companies like Springfield and Kimber that have been around for ~30 years or less are considered to be better made than the companies that have been doing it for much longer.

Not that Glock has been around forever or anything...but I do find it interesting! :dunno:

bac1023
01-15-2012, 11:47
I know that he's smart, but c'mon :rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

bac1023
01-15-2012, 11:48
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Happy%20Faces/DeputyDawg.gif

The topic is 1911s, not Glocks.

Exactly