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DGreno
01-08-2012, 22:22
Hey everyone, I have gotten the itch for a new caliber and I have pretty much decided on a .44 mag. I am wanting a revolver with a ~5-6" bbl. I am pretty much between the Redhawk and the 629.

For those with experience or just opinions, what are the pros and cons of each?

FWIW, I have no real use for it, it is just something I want for range and fun. It may occasionally be carried in the woods but a GP100 usually fills that role. I know the Ruger can handle hotter loads but that is not really of importance to me at this point.

Thanks!:wavey:

glock2740
01-08-2012, 22:26
Owned a Redhawk in 7.5" and own a Redhawk in 5.5". Great guns. I prefer the 5.5". :cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/MynewRedhawk002.jpg

427
01-08-2012, 22:53
I used to have two Colt Anacondas, one 6" and one 4". I sold both of them in a moment of desperation and have regretted it ever since.

Shooting anything more than two cylinders of the full power loads would make me flinch badly but .44 specials and light magnum loads weren't too bad. Ammo is expensive, too.

collim1
01-08-2012, 22:58
The Ruger will let you shoot a steady diet of the most powerful loads.

Buffalo Bore and Double Tap put out some high end loads that they say are not safe to shoot out of the Smith 629.

I really want a levergun in .44mag. I think it would make a great camp gun for the hunting camp and short range deer hunting.

dsa1115
01-08-2012, 23:06
I've been looking for a 5.5 Redhawk but I haven't been able to find a dealer with one.

JMag
01-08-2012, 23:08
I have an Anaconda which I have no plans to sell. It is a great looking and great shooting revolver.

Zombie Steve
01-08-2012, 23:35
I like the N frame Smiths, but the Redhawk plus a trigger job isn't a bad rig at all. The Smiths will handle anything wihin SAAMI spec. If you want hotter than that, I'd recommend a .454 Casull.

Zombie Steve
01-08-2012, 23:38
Some eye candy:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x214/sbecht/DSCF2309.jpg

DGreno
01-09-2012, 00:22
I honestly am leaning towards the 629. There is just something aout the classic N frame lines that appeals to me more than the redhawk. I would love a colt i just can't justify the cost. Steve, thank you for the pic. Like you it seems, that little flag comes out of all my Smith revolvers that are so equipped.

barth
01-09-2012, 00:33
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo05/ad/6a/48882277cde6__1313264906000.jpg
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo25/86/cc/b09a8c52fb3b__1323801557000.jpghttps://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo22/8a/31/a9c643751343__1323801967000.jpg

gjk5
01-09-2012, 00:43
N Frame and lever all the way.

I have a Redhawk and two levers (marlin and Win Trapper) in .44. The redhawk is OK, the Win lever is OK, the Marlin is killer, and an N Frame is next. the Ruger and Win are going.

pennlineman
01-09-2012, 03:28
I have one of each. I'd go with the S&W since you have no conerns of running lots of hot loads through it. Both good guns though,, you really cant go wrong either way.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/pennlineman/DSCF17282.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/pennlineman/DSCF1234.jpg

Glock40man
01-09-2012, 03:36
I have one of each. I'd go with the S&W since you have no conerns of running lots of hot loads through it. Both good guns though,, you really cant go wrong either way.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/pennlineman/DSCF17282.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/pennlineman/DSCF1234.jpg


:agree:Very nice pennlineman.

NEOH212
01-09-2012, 04:44
The Ruger will let you shoot a steady diet of the most powerful loads.

Buffalo Bore and Double Tap put out some high end loads that they say are not safe to shoot out of the Smith 629.

This. :wavey:

The only .44 Mag that I own is a Ruger. Let me tell you, for a 130 pound girl it's a real hand full but it's a lot of fun to shoot, plus I like the looks on everyone's faces when I show up at the range with that cannon!

:wow:

I really love S&W revolvers and I'm partial to them. However, Ruger makes the best and strongest .44 Mag revolver in the industry and it's the only .44 that I would recommend if it's going to be shot a lot especially if it will see a lot of really heavy loads.

NEOH212
01-09-2012, 04:47
I have one of each. I'd go with the S&W since you have no conerns of running lots of hot loads through it. Both good guns though,, you really cant go wrong either way.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/pennlineman/DSCF17282.jpg

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt250/pennlineman/DSCF1234.jpg

WOW! Very nice!

How the heck can you stand to shoot a .44 Mag with those wood grips???


MEGA OWWWWIEEEE!!!

pennlineman
01-09-2012, 05:16
WOW! Very nice!

How the heck can you stand to shoot a .44 Mag with those wood grips???


MEGA OWWWWIEEEE!!!

The 500 mag has toughened up my hand. :dunno:

bac1023
01-09-2012, 05:26
I have both and prefer the 629.

D3S3RT_P3NGU1N
01-09-2012, 05:40
The S&W 629 classic 5" would be my choice. They also make a 6 1/2" but I find the 5" a little handier. I really like the looks of the full lug too. You'll need a nice lever gun to match it though :supergrin:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/26273/Smith+%26+Wesson+629+Classic+.44+Mag+5%22

mikesull415
01-09-2012, 06:15
My vote's for the 629. Get a -3 or newer and they have the "endurance package"

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/96a6488c.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/ebb59927.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/153cae32.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/282ad970.jpg

NAS T MAG
01-09-2012, 06:26
I almost never shoot mine, but I would never sell it. Plus it really looks great in the wooden presentation box.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/NAS-T-MAG/43SmithWesson29-3.jpg

glock2740
01-09-2012, 06:33
Some eye candy:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x214/sbecht/DSCF2309.jpg
Great looking gun. :thumbsup:

Bruce M
01-09-2012, 09:53
I'd like to know if anyone has bought a Smith and Wesson .44 Mag revolver in the last decade or two, shot it until failure and not had Smith take care of it.

Travclem
01-09-2012, 09:57
I had a Super Blackhawk and a 629. I traded the 629 for a Redhawk and never looked back. You simply can't beat Ruger for big bore revolvers. For .38/.357, however, I prefer S&W's offerings.

Zombie Steve
01-09-2012, 11:14
I'd like to know if anyone has bought a Smith and Wesson .44 Mag revolver in the last decade or two, shot it until failure and not had Smith take care of it.

I've asked this question myself many times. Only found one person that ever shot one to death (fredj338). He was loading the snot out of it and shooting it in silhouette competition constantly with jacketed loads, which IIRC wound up screwing up his forcing cone. Most folks will never come close to approaching that level of use and abuse with a .44 mag. Fact is, most people will never shoot them enough to get comfortable with it... a few times around the wheel two or three times a year is about what most people will call good.

I will admit I don't load .44 mag to its potential, but I do get to shoot it a lot. Nothing in this part of the Rockies will stop a 240 grain keith bullet going the speed of sound, so why make them harder to shoot and harder on the gun?

Also, I'm not sure how much of this lore comes from the fact that the Smith cylinders are a tad shorter, so when you get certain bullet profiles and into 300+ grain ranges, they simply won't fit. The narrative is that Ruger can handle them and Smiths can't. It's true, but not because of pressure, it's because of cartridge overall length.

Again, I'd advise people looking to throw 300+ grain bullets really, really fast to get a .454 Casull, a .475 Linebaugh or .500 S&W. I just don't get the need to drive a .44 mag to the limit.

:dunno:

NEOH212
01-09-2012, 18:23
The 500 mag has toughened up my hand. :dunno:

I hear that! I was surprised that the 500 didn't beat me up more than it did. Don't get me wrong, it had way more recoil that the .44 but was manageable. I only got through two cylinders full before my hand couldn't take anymore!

I must say that I was really surprised at how accurate the 500 S&W is even at 100 yards! I think if I was going to hunt with a handgun, it would either be the 500 or the 460, not that the .44 Mag is any slouch. :supergrin:

NEOH212
01-09-2012, 18:24
I have both and prefer the 629.

The Smith does have a very sweet trigger though doesn't it!!! :cool:

NEOH212
01-09-2012, 18:25
My vote's for the 629. Get a -3 or newer and they have the "endurance package"

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/96a6488c.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/ebb59927.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/153cae32.jpg

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/mikesull415/282ad970.jpg


I wasn't aware of the endurance package. What is that exactly??? Nice guns by the way! :wow:

Zombie Steve
01-09-2012, 18:47
Some of the Endurance package changes (transitioned between 1988 and 1990) included: radius stud package, bolt block, lengthened cylinder stop notches and a special heat-treated yoke. If memory serves, they stopped the counterbored cylinders before that.

Damon555
01-09-2012, 20:49
Never shot a 629. I'm sure it's a fine gun. My Redhawk is a dream to shoot. It really turns heads when it leaves the case.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/edlafond/Weapons/RedHawk.jpg

Chonny
01-09-2012, 20:59
I must be the only one still using .357 mag for everything from boars to deer.

.44 and up are some powerhouse rounds, what do you shoot with those ?

DGreno
01-11-2012, 19:32
Lke I said, a .357 GP100 accompanies me in the woods for the occasional kill shot or pig. The .44 would be for fun or woods carry when I venture into areas where there are bigger critters than we have in South Georgia.

benz mechanic
01-11-2012, 20:03
something you might think about is a dan wesson, I use to own one that had a vent rib and came in a case with extra barrels they were 4", 6", and a 8" barrel, it was a pretty cool setup in 44 mag

dewidmt
01-11-2012, 20:15
I have an older 29-2 4" and a Ruger Super Blackhawk. I bought the 29 back in 1991 at a small gun store in Orono, Maine. I've even shot it a couple times for IDPA matches!

ArmoryDoc
01-12-2012, 07:12
Having owned both I can say this without bias. The Ruger is one overbuilt gun. Trigger is not as good as the Smith but is good enough. The Ruger takes any load made in .44 magnum.

The 629 Classic is what I own now. I prefer the lines of it to the Ruger. I sold the Ruger to fund this one and am not sorry but ! If I ever wanted to run lots of high end loads without worry I would do it with the Ruger. Here's the sweet 629 Classic...

https://cache.nebula.phx3.secureserver.net/obj/QjQ0N0Q3MzA5MUM5NkVCRTNCMDc6OTM1ODJmOTQ3M2ZiYzM4M2IwZWMwMGRkODI2OGRkMzU=?u=307f9fa9-6073-431c-b2a2-91a165917d32

G17Gen4
02-16-2012, 10:57
Zombie what gun is that?

Zombie Steve
02-16-2012, 11:18
It's a 629 that was apparently a special run - says Ranger 1 of 300 on the barrel. Hogue wood grips were stock and of course, it has the unfluted cylinder. I got it used and never learned much about this run of 629's...

I went camping in the national forest last night and got a chance to shoot it a bunch. On a dare, I had to go around the wheel one handed Dirty Harry style. That was pretty brutal.... :supergrin:

Too bad it's got the glory hole in the side...

ithaca_deerslayer
02-16-2012, 11:58
something you might think about is a dan wesson, I use to own one that had a vent rib and came in a case with extra barrels they were 4", 6", and a 8" barrel, it was a pretty cool setup in 44 mag

I've got one of those :)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7193/6887269351_2bfa6b737b_b.jpg

ithaca_deerslayer
02-16-2012, 12:02
Anyone else find the 629 more harsh in recoil than a Super Redhawk? Could be a weight issue, but seems a real difference to me.

Of course, nothing handles the recoil as well as the Dan Wesson, even with the 4". But lots of weight and large smooth wooden grips are probably what's making the difference.

bac1023
02-16-2012, 12:11
The Smith does have a very sweet trigger though doesn't it!!! :cool:

Yes they do. :cool:

KIMFAB
02-16-2012, 12:34
You have seen a lot of replies about the recoil on a wheelgun.

With a .44 mag 2 dozen rounds and you are usually ready to stop for the day.

Try a Desert Eagle, you can shoot it all day without pain.

The wow factor is good too.

http://www.kimfab.com/pictures/forum/HPIMa1138.JPG

Travclem
02-16-2012, 12:55
Anyone else find the 629 more harsh in recoil than a Super Redhawk? Could be a weight issue, but seems a real difference to me.

Of course, nothing handles the recoil as well as the Dan Wesson, even with the 4". But lots of weight and large smooth wooden grips are probably what's making the difference.
IMO a 629 has a much harsher recoil than a Redhawk and a Super Blackhawk too.

trashcat
02-16-2012, 12:55
I couldn't imagine getting rid of my super blackhawk of my limited hand gun collection it's my most favorite gun to shoot. I don't have a 629 but that's just because I haven't seen one for a reasonable price yet. I actually prefer the wood grips over the rubber I like the solid feeling. I reload in the midrange so it doesn't really hit to hard. I've never bough factory loads in .44 I'd go broke shooting it.

ArmoryDoc
02-16-2012, 13:04
The 629 Classic I have seems a little harsher than my Redhawk did. I still like it tho. :)

Clutch Cargo
02-16-2012, 16:18
I carry a S&W 329 because it only weighs 26 ounces. I keep it loaded with Garrett 310gr 44 mag Hammerhead Defenders

smokeross
02-16-2012, 16:58
I must be the only one still using .357 mag for everything from boars to deer.

.44 and up are some powerhouse rounds, what do you shoot with those ?
Anything you want! Mostly bears for me, and a few moose.

glockin-45
02-16-2012, 16:59
D Greno, Brother just get what ever you like, or your not going to be happy. Believe me, been there done that. I've owned about every one of them at one time or another. Not braggin, cus i don't have money, I've saved,sold, and took out loans ta get what i've wanted. like you i wanted another .44 and knew a guy i work with had an old Ruger super blackhawk. He dosn't shoot anymore but it still took a long time ta finealy talk him into selling it to me. Out of all of them, i wish i still had the S&W 629 though. Good luck.:wavey: ( and don't go with cheapest, save if you have to.)

Wetrudgeon
02-16-2012, 17:19
Colt Anaconda is a beautiful revolver.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/Wetrudgeon/45s0109027.jpg
Our SBH, our all time favorite:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/Wetrudgeon/Handguns0109003.jpg
We trudge on.