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TxGlock9
01-19-2012, 02:40
Difference is the Spartan IV has a bull barrel, FLGR, and 4.25inch.

Ruger as everyone already knows is 100% US made and is made out of barstock steel from slide to barrel/barrel bushing so it's a tight high quality fit.

I really don't care as far as size goes but I will be carrying this pistol. As far as reliability and performance goes what do you guys think? Should I wait for something better or go with either one of these aforementioned pistols?

Tank44
01-19-2012, 12:00
Ruger, if you can find one!

Quack
01-19-2012, 12:37
at least Ruger hid the warning on the SR1911 :rofl:

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/Other/SHOT-Show-Day-2/i-PxBFPWj/0/L/DSC6603-L.jpg

TxGlock9
01-19-2012, 12:41
Ruger appears to be the better made pistol, but I can't just assume so that's why I'm trying to get a proper assessment from you guys. I know STI's are great quality for the price as well, but the Spartans are made by Armscor in the philippines. So does anyone know first hand the craftmanship that goes into an Spartan in comparison to the SR1911?

Quack
01-19-2012, 12:44
the Spartan gets final QC by STI in TX before they ship out. STI is an employee owned company and they take great pride in their work.

fnfalman
01-19-2012, 13:07
Cast American or cast Filipino?

Tough call.

ca survivor
01-19-2012, 15:32
look at Springfield Armory, just look.......

TxGlock9
01-19-2012, 17:15
look at Springfield Armory, just look.......

Foe the price i'm willi to spend they dont have anything that i like. I have had the RO before already. I think i'm going to go for the sti.

TxGlock9
01-19-2012, 21:06
Sorry for the major typos up top. Was typing from my iphone.. Anyway, I made the order for my Spartan IV and should be here soon. Will be back with range report.

Carolina Drifter
01-20-2012, 11:37
have you considered the SA Range Officer

TxGlock9
01-20-2012, 16:14
have you considered the SA Range Officer post #8.. As for the spartan IV I ordered the wait time is 16 weeks from today.. I had to make a $200 deposit with dawson precision.

Amsdorf
01-20-2012, 16:28
This is a no brainer, get the Ruger.

http://www.johngouldener.com/wp-content/uploads/no-brainer-48011.gif

TxGlock9
01-20-2012, 16:35
Tell Bac that.. lol It amuses me how much people don't know about STI's quality and reputation.

saddlebum
04-04-2012, 10:40
I have both the sti will shoot circles around the ruger. STI is an armscor slide and frame. Every tghing else is sti and fitted by sti

WinterWizard
04-04-2012, 13:55
I own the Ruger – it is awesome. Forget carrying it, though, unless you like to have your pants pulled down all day long. The Ruger is a heavy, all-steel gun – about 3 lbs with a full magazine. I don't care if you have a $300 holster and a $200 belt, you are going to be pulling your pants up about 500 times a day. I would carry a 1911, but only a 4", lightweight model.

saddlebum
04-04-2012, 14:32
the sti is all steel also

WinterWizard
04-04-2012, 17:06
the sti is all steel also

Well, if it is a 4" model, it may weigh a few ounces less. But to me, the problem with carrying a 1911 isn't the size, it's the weight. My cutoff fully loaded would be about 35 ounces, tops 25-30 ounces is better.

Cobra64
04-04-2012, 17:48
I own the Ruger it is awesome. Forget carrying it, though, unless you like to have your pants pulled down all day long. The Ruger is a heavy, all-steel gun about 3 lbs with a full magazine.

I don't care if you have a $300 holster and a $200 belt, you are going to be pulling your pants up about 500 times a day.

I would carry a 1911, but only a 4", lightweight model.

http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9646709c8771bed12603ac33c2a8567e

"Hey bro... ditch the 1911"





These guys are all shooting Sig P226s that weigh about two ounces more than a steel 1911. None seem to have issues with their pants falling down.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Grayguns%20Classes/Mark-Cobra645.jpg

fnfalman
04-04-2012, 18:19
How can you shout, "THIS IS SPARTA!!!" with the Ruger?

dakrat
04-04-2012, 19:18
I really don't care as far as size goes but I will be carrying this pistol. As far as reliability and performance goes what do you guys think?

lowered and flared ejection port, GI guide rod, fixed sights. Ruger

bac1023
04-04-2012, 20:34
Tough choice

I'd probably go with the Ruger if you can get it for a good price.

I love the full size Spartan quite a bit.

kasper7106
04-05-2012, 19:13
http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9646709c8771bed12603ac33c2a8567e

"Hey bro... ditch the 1911"





These guys are all shooting Sig P226s that weigh about two ounces more than a steel 1911. None seem to have issues with their pants falling down.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Grayguns%20Classes/Mark-Cobra645.jpg


But, if you notice none of the guns are holstered so you really cant tell:rofl:

slickab
04-05-2012, 19:18
I would get the Ruger if you could find one. I have been on a waiting list for 5 months.
The STI is probably just as good. I went ahead and got an American Classic II/Metro Arms, while I waited, and I tell you, it is not going anywhere.

Cobra64
04-05-2012, 21:34
But, if you notice none of the guns are holstered so you really cant tell:rofl:

They're holstered up here. :supergrin:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Grayguns%20Classes/P1030594.jpg

crazymoose
04-07-2012, 08:28
I applaud Ruger for going with the original 1911A1 design, no useless Series-80 or Swartz safety. That said, I don't understand the huge demand for them. It's a decently built 1911 at a fair price... and there are a million other similar offerings on the market.

For me, the STI is the easy choice. Both have cast frames. The STI has better internals and more useful (although less aesthetically pleasing) cocking serrations.

My entirely unsolicited advice: Stick a tritium front sight on the STI and a Harrison fixed rear sight of your choice (tritium/no tritium) in place of the Bo-Mar style adjustable. I think this would be a slick setup that wouldn't break the bank.

FLSlim
04-07-2012, 09:37
I really like STI products (I own 1 full and 1 commander size STI) but can't compare your choices or offer my opinion, since I've never had the chance to shoot the Ruger 1911. Good luck with your search! For a Spartan carry, CrazyM offers good advice.

WinterWizard
04-08-2012, 17:46
http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9646709c8771bed12603ac33c2a8567e

"Hey bro... ditch the 1911"





These guys are all shooting Sig P226s that weigh about two ounces more than a steel 1911. None seem to have issues with their pants falling down.


http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/Davis1950/Weapons/Grayguns%20Classes/Mark-Cobra645.jpg

And you can tell this from a picture how? And a 226 weighs 34 oz. with magazine. A steel 1911 weighs somewhere in the 38-42 oz. range.

Without a duty belt, I guarantee you are going to be hitching up your pants about every 5-10 minutes, more if you are walking. Unless you have hips and waist like a woman, in which case I can almost guarantee you aren't going to be carrying a 1911 IWB.

NeverMore1701
04-08-2012, 18:10
And you can tell this from a picture how? And a 226 weighs 34 oz. with magazine. A steel 1911 weighs somewhere in the 38-42 oz. range.

Without a duty belt, I guarantee you are going to be hitching up your pants about every 5-10 minutes, more if you are walking. Unless you have hips and waist like a woman, in which case I can almost guarantee you aren't going to be carrying a 1911 IWB.

I can carry my Beretta 92FS with 18+1 IWB or a 5" steel 1911 with 8+1 OWB using my Wilderness Instructor's 5 stitch 1.5" belt all day with no issues whatsoever. Good holster and good belt work wonders.

And that's not even counting 2 spare 20rd mags for the Beretta.

Luminary
04-08-2012, 22:52
Tell Bac that.. lol It amuses me how much people don't know about STI's quality and reputation.

It's got more to do with the hype surrounding the SR1911. My buddy has an STI and it's one great pistol. Can't go wrong with either.

Quack
04-08-2012, 22:57
Without a duty belt, I guarantee you are going to be hitching up your pants about every 5-10 minutes, more if you are walking. Unless you have hips and waist like a woman, in which case I can almost guarantee you aren't going to be carrying a 1911 IWB.

:upeyes:

no droopy pants here, even carrying a full size Springfield hi-cap 38Super, and i'm not using a duty belt.

http://photosbydon.smugmug.com/photos/i-D3vcc2N/0/L/i-D3vcc2N-L.jpg

glock2740
04-08-2012, 23:25
I think I'd take the Spartan over the Ruger.

stopatrain
04-08-2012, 23:44
Ruger for me.

SonnyCrockett
04-09-2012, 03:55
the only 1911 worth owning is one MADE IN USA.....IDK what your budget is
I want my 1911s to be American....I own the Ruger,its a competitively priced
workhorse that has yet to jam or fail on me

brisk21
04-09-2012, 08:20
Id probably get the Ruger. It looks better.

TN.Frank
04-09-2012, 08:39
If you have Direct TV "Guns and Ammo TV" on the Sportsman channel will be reviewing the SR1911 at 7pm CST tonight.

MrGlock21
04-10-2012, 01:21
I started the very same thread a couple of weeks ago.

I like the ruger, I really do, it's a great American firearm.

But the STI is a better shooter. IMO

WinterWizard
04-10-2012, 05:21
I can carry my Beretta 92FS with 18+1 IWB or a 5" steel 1911 with 8+1 OWB using my Wilderness Instructor's 5 stitch 1.5" belt all day with no issues whatsoever. Good holster and good belt work wonders.

And that's not even counting 2 spare 20rd mags for the Beretta.

Beretta 92 weighs about 34 ounces, and OWB with a 5 stitch 1.5" belt is not what we are talking about. We are talking about an all-steel, 40 ounce gun (unloaded) IWB without a reinforced belt. Anyone who says they aren't pulling their pants up every so often is flat out lying.

NeverMore1701
04-10-2012, 06:49
Beretta 92 weighs about 34 ounces, and OWB with a 5 stitch 1.5" belt is not what we are talking about. We are talking about an all-steel, 40 ounce gun (unloaded) IWB without a reinforced belt. Anyone who says they aren't pulling their pants up every so often is flat out lying.

A good gunbelt is a good gunbelt. My Seth's Gunleather belt does just as well. I just weighed my 92, and loaded with 18+1 it comes in at 43.3oz. The 1911 with 8+1 is 47.2oz. I have a hard time believing that 4oz makes much difference at all (because it doesn't).


Carrying either with a wal-mart special belt will of course not work out too well.

Shadyscott69
04-15-2012, 12:05
And you can tell this from a picture how? And a 226 weighs 34 oz. with magazine. A steel 1911 weighs somewhere in the 38-42 oz. range.

Without a duty belt, I guarantee you are going to be hitching up your pants about every 5-10 minutes, more if you are walking. Unless you have hips and waist like a woman, in which case I can almost guarantee you aren't going to be carrying a 1911 IWB.

Ummmmm, no.

sappy13
08-13-2012, 10:09
And you can tell this from a picture how? And a 226 weighs 34 oz. with magazine. A steel 1911 weighs somewhere in the 38-42 oz. range.

Without a duty belt, I guarantee you are going to be hitching up your pants about every 5-10 minutes, more if you are walking. Unless you have hips and waist like a woman, in which case I can almost guarantee you aren't going to be carrying a 1911 IWB.

As most everyone who has used a real belt will say, Buy a quality gunbelt and you wont have an issue. There are multiple vendors and sponsors on this forum that make great quality products and are highly recommended. I have experience with the wilderness instructor and a beltman horsehide belt. Between a belt and a good holster that distributes the weight of the guy, you will see a world of difference.

257 roberts
08-13-2012, 16:52
I was in the same boat as you and went with the Ruger,now I want a Spartan in 9mm!!!

TxGlock9
08-13-2012, 19:09
I was in the same boat as you and went with the Ruger,now I want a Spartan in 9mm!!!

Well, since then I bought a STI Ranger II in 45acp.