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jco69
01-21-2012, 16:55
My wife is looking for a .22 or .380, she likes the look of a P22 or Bersa .380, anybody have any pros/cons or other suggestions?

Bruce M
01-21-2012, 17:04
I am guessing that part of the use for this gun will be for protection. A .22 would be pretty far down on my list for that use (and I lust after most .22s I see.) If I had to, it would be a .22 revolver, probably a Smith with three inch barrel although the SP101 looked smaller than I thought it would.

I have never shot one but the Bersa .380 seems to be well made and others ave claimed good results with it.

D3S3RT_P3NGU1N
01-21-2012, 17:06
I used to own a P22, biggest POS I've ever owned, even when using high velocity ammo. Some folks have had good luck with them and gotten a decent one, but you'll find plenty of folks here who've had nothing but trouble from them

If you're looking for a .22lr pistol, get a Ruger MK, I have a MKIII 22/45 thats been great. Another good gun that I've had for a few months now is the GSG .22lr 1911.

Also, why only .22 or .380? Will this gun be for carry or HD? Whats the limit on your budget?

jco69
01-21-2012, 17:10
She's not into revolvers and she will most likely never carry it, now she likes the Diamond back .380. she just wants something to take to the range when i go. and pink would be a plus :-)

JFrame
01-21-2012, 17:19
If your wife is simply looking for a plinker, and she doesn't demand "kick" when she shoots, by all means I would recommend a .22. The difference in the price of ammo between .22 and .380 would pay for the difference in getting a nice .22 in a very short while.

If she likes the P22, I would say go for it. I don't have one myself, but I have three friends who do, and they all seem to love theirs. The P22's seem accurate enough, which I think is important for enjoying oneself at the range.


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M2 Carbine
01-21-2012, 17:20
What is her primary use for the gun?

One of the ladies I'm teaching to shoot bought a Bersa .380 and added a Crimson Trace laser for shooting practice and a purse gun. The lady shoots the gun very well and the gun has been totally trouble free.
So far I'm impressed with the gun.

Ruger just came out with a 22 called the SR22. The local gun store has one but I haven't shot it yet.
First thing I thought when I saw it was this would make a good woman's gun.

A good mid size .380, if you can find one, is a ATI 84. It's a copy of the Beretta Model 84. Sells for under $400. ATI makes some very good guns. I have several.

Brian Lee
01-21-2012, 17:20
I can tell you I like shooting the Bersa a LOT more than I like shooting the LCP or the little Kel Tec .380's, and if she's OK with the size & weight of a Bersa, they are a lot easier to hit things with, and a lot easier on your hands while you do it.

If the automatic she's considering was an LCP, I could see why she might want a .22 instead because of how light & snappy LCP's are. But in the Bersa, .380 is pretty mild & controllable enough to make you forget all about a .22 Rimfire. And a Bersa can actually hit things without a laser too, while LCP's & Kel Tec's are almost worthless beyond 6 feet without one.

EDIT:

Now that I've seen your second comment about her wanting something to take to the range with you, then I'd certainly rule out an LCP or Kel Tec .380. They just aren't any fun for that purpose, nor were they intended to be, but a Bersa can be.

Bruce M
01-21-2012, 17:47
She's not into revolvers and she will most likely never carry it, now she likes the Diamond back .380. she just wants something to take to the range when i go. and pink would be a plus :-)


Ahh that changes everything. A .22 will be less expensive at the range than a .380. There have been some reviews of the Diamondback here that have not been favorable. Beretta makes a pink version of the Neos


http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/Ber%20Neos.jpg

A Hogue Handall could make a variety of guns "pink" such as a Ruger or maybe a bit less expensive a Smith 22A

http://images1.opticsplanet.com/1020-680-ffffff/opplanet-hogue-handall-jr-small-size-grip-sleeve-pink-18007.jpg

barth
01-21-2012, 17:55
My wife is looking for a .22 or .380, she likes the look of a P22 or Bersa .380, anybody have any pros/cons or other suggestions?

380 is much better for SD than a 22
Not to mention the whole center fire vs rim fire issue

There is a whole new crop of CC micro 9mm out there now.
I'd try to nudge her in that direction if she was my girl

Z71bill
01-21-2012, 18:27
If she likes the P22 why not the PK380?

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=13152&storeId=10002&productId=90943&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=60806&isFirearm=Y

http://www.gunblast.com/Walther-PK380.htm

hogship
01-21-2012, 18:27
To the OP, jco69......

Since it seems like range use is the intended purpose, can we rule out the 380 and zero in on something in 22LR?.......and can we eliminate anything that's small and intended for ccw?

If I may ask, what does your wife have, or intend to use for self defense purposes?

As much as I like revolvers, if I wanted something that I could go to the range and blast away.......it would be an automatic.

I have a couple of Ruger MKII's that are nice, and I'm going to keep those forever......but, they are heavy. I also have a Smith 617 that's also very heavy.

It seems to me that a full sized 22LR automatic intended for a woman's smaller hand, would probably be one of the newer polymer framed pistols on the market. They seem to be more ergonomically designed, and much lighter.

I believe, for something that fit all the parameters you are suggesting, M2Carbine gave a suggestion that looks to me like a winner!.......Ruger SR22

ooc


Ruger just came out with a 22 called the SR22. The local gun store has one but I haven't shot it yet.
First thing I thought when I saw it was this would make a good woman's gun.


http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/270530000/270530436/pix373273712.jpg

Caladan
01-21-2012, 18:41
she just wants something to take to the range when i go. and pink would be a plus :-)

Well, no reason to get a .380. They cost more to shoot than 9mm.

We have pretty much all of the commonly-available .22's, with the exception of the new Ruger polymer version. My wife's favorite plinker is our Browning Buckmark. It's grip is just right for her, and it's trigger is the best of all the ones that cost less than $350.

That being said, if I were to purchase just one plinker specifically for my wife, I would look real hard at the new Ruger polymer .22.

One other option to consider, if you really want pink, is the new version polymer PT22's from Taurus. The earlier versions were pretty bad, but the review at Gunblast.com was not bad.

hogship
01-21-2012, 19:20
I hadn't realized it, but the Ruger SR22 is a DA/SA, with external hammer.

For a range gun, I like that!

ooc

Berto
01-21-2012, 19:42
If your wife is simply looking for a plinker, and she doesn't demand "kick" when she shoots, by all means I would recommend a .22. The difference in the price of ammo between .22 and .380 would pay for the difference in getting a nice .22 in a very short while.

If she likes the P22, I would say go for it. I don't have one myself, but I have three friends who do, and they all seem to love theirs. The P22's seem accurate enough, which I think is important for enjoying oneself at the range.


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+1

If it's not for protection, go .22 and spend enough to insure good quality, it'll pay for itself huge in ammo costs.
I'm not huge on P22's but I bet they make a pink one.:supergrin:

WoodenPlank
01-21-2012, 19:46
If it's just a range toy, what about the Ruger Mark II or III, or the 22/45? Can even get pink grips for the 22/45.

mitzer
01-21-2012, 19:54
My wife is looking for a .22 or .380, she likes the look of a P22 or Bersa .380, anybody have any pros/cons or other suggestions?


Just bought a Ruger Mark III 22/45 for the same purpose this week for the wife's birthday. It's stainless, has an adjustable rear sight, and a TFO front sight. After checking out reviews on SIG, Walther, etc, in .22LR, I decided the the Ruger 22/45 was the best option for a range plinking gun.

So far, it's great. I shot 100 rounds the day I bought it and the wife shot 200 rounds Friday night. Zero malfunctions, even without cleaning it yet. She shot it very well ... much better than her .38 and she absolutely loves it.

Only downside ... it ain't pink. I bought the stainless model so I could tell her that she was getting some "bling" for her birthday. Now she can go to the range with me without breaking the bank on ammo.

Cole125
01-21-2012, 20:21
She's not into revolvers and she will most likely never carry it, now she likes the Diamond back .380. she just wants something to take to the range when i go. and pink would be a plus :-)

If she is never going to carry it, then why a small, hard to shoot pistol? A small .380 has more recoil and is harder to shoot than a full size 9mm.

Smith & Wesson makes a M&P 9mm with a pink grip.

DonGlock26
01-22-2012, 08:44
My wife is looking for a .22 or .380, she likes the look of a P22 or Bersa .380, anybody have any pros/cons or other suggestions?

.380acp. -centerfire primers are more reliable.

If the recoil is still too much consider a .32acp or steel .38spl with light wadcutter loads-147gr for carry. If a HD gun- S&W M&P 9mm.

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DoubleWide
01-22-2012, 12:21
.22 or a full size 9 would be your best bet. Since it's mostly range, just get a .22 first.

Ruger SR22 and Walther P22 would be the smallest grips, but the Ruger hasn't been out long enough and with the P22, you either get a decent gun or a POS.

Ruger Marks and Browning Buckmarks are very reliable. The Ruger 22/45 would be a small grip option.

March817
01-22-2012, 12:22
My wife is looking for a .22 or .380, she likes the look of a P22 or Bersa .380, anybody have any pros/cons or other suggestions?

The Bersa also comes in .22LR, then go to designergrips.com for some pink custom grips.

Bob Hafler
01-22-2012, 12:35
I'd say .380 pistol for the range= Bersa Thunder. 22 pistol I'd say= Ruger MK III 22/45.

jco69
01-22-2012, 18:28
Well, she doesn't like the MKIII, but she really likes the SR22.

MNBud
01-22-2012, 18:32
For a reasonably priced and reliable 22pistol, I would take a look at the ISSC pistol. Mine has been very reliable.

PapaOso
01-22-2012, 18:33
Check the RUGER LCR-22, I like it!

WoodenPlank
01-22-2012, 18:33
Well, she doesn't like the MKIII, but she really likes the SR22.

Did you try a 22/45?

TomB985
01-22-2012, 19:05
Make sure you check ammo prices before you buy. Around here you can't find .380 rounds for anything less than $0.30/round. But .22s can be had for around $0.04/round. Meaning that my Ruger .22 can go "Bang!" nearly ten times for the cost that it takes my Hi-point .380 to go "Bang!" once.

I strongly dislike the .380 round and am looking to get rid of my Hi-point because of it. Less than 2/3rds the power of a 9mm and it, on average, costs twice as much to shoot.

Why not a 9mm? If just a range gun a .22 for sure, but stay AWAY from .380s!

jco69
01-22-2012, 19:11
Well, it's down to the SR22 or a Mosquito,pink of course :-)

Cole125
01-22-2012, 19:11
Why not a 9mm? If just a range gun a .22 for sure, but stay AWAY from .380s!

Yeah buying a .380 for a range gun is a bad idea, I would go .22 or 9mm no questions asked.

As far as a .22 pistol avoid all the new gimmicky pistols like the P22, SR22, M&P22, they are pretty much just toys. Get a good one like a Ruger MK, Browning Buck Mark, even a used Smith&Wesson 41.

Cole125
01-22-2012, 19:12
Well, it's down to the SR22 or a Mosquito,pink of course :-)

You would be much better off with a Ruger MKIII 22/45.

JDMitchell
01-29-2012, 16:26
Check the RUGER LCR-22, I like it!

Still have the good trigger that the bigger LCR's use?

Anyone else have a good experience with the LCR-22? I am thinking about getting one for my wife to shoot.

Anyone use one as a BUG?

M2 Carbine
01-29-2012, 18:28
Well, it's down to the SR22 or a Mosquito,pink of course :-)
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I had a Mosquito. It was a stinker.

A man is supposed to shoot a SR22 at my place in a day or two. If I like it I'll probably get one.

ajgranda
01-30-2012, 13:57
Kahr P380 or Sig p238 are my .380 suggestions.

High Altitude
01-30-2012, 14:33
The very first gun my wife bought was a Taurus 94 9 shot .22lr revolver with a 4" barrel. Still have it over 15 years later. 100% reliable cheap fun.

bac1023
01-30-2012, 16:14
My wife is looking for a .22 or .380, she likes the look of a P22 or Bersa .380, anybody have any pros/cons or other suggestions?

The P22 is junk, as is the Sig Mosquito.

What is the gun's intended use?

MattyIce
01-30-2012, 16:20
Another vote for the .22. I have a lot of trigger time behind both of the guns. The Walther is not the most reliable handgun by any stretch of the imagination. However, for a little bit of plinking at the range it is tons of fun. Just be aware, using the cheap bulk stuff from walmart is probably going to result in several failures during your trip to the range.

bac1023
01-30-2012, 16:32
Well, it's down to the SR22 or a Mosquito,pink of course :-)


I can't speak on the Ruger yet, but the Sig is crap.

If its for the range get a Ruger Mark III.

redcat11
01-30-2012, 17:00
First of all the .22 is rather small for her to carry to really stop a threat. I had issues in carrying a .380 due to fact of stopping power, but with new or modern hollow points or Hornady TAP personal defense ammo you cant go wrong. I carry a Bersa Thunder .380 during the summer for three years and taking it to the range no issues in dependability. Matter of fact the trigger pull is outstanding on the Bersa. One thing that I really like about the Bersa is that it has a decocker and also is a firing pin block so she can carry +1 in the chamber. The recoil is low so shooting hundreds of rounds through the gun for practice wouldn't be an issue. Sure there are alot of weapons out there for female carry piece but the .380 is enough to get her out of trouble and the Bersa compliments this round perfectly.

sappy13
01-30-2012, 20:20
.22 is too small for carry. It's just Gona piss someone off unless u get lucky. .380 would.be a much better option, for essentially the same size. My p238 will disappear just as fast as most any. 22 I think.

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nelsone
01-30-2012, 23:48
Not everybody is so dead broke that ammo cost trumps all other considerations.

The .380 costs more than 9mm to shoot, but is a heckuva lot more pleasant, especially out of a small launcher. Women and .380's just seem to go together, call me Shirley, but it's true. When I have to run outside in my jammies at night it's the wife's Bersa Thunder 380 CC that I'm carrying, not a .45ACP Glock.

The Diamondback 380 has a reputation for being finicky. Screw that noise: Reliability over all! That Thunder CC feeds everything, every time, and being a blowback action it has a fixed barrel, which makes it more accurate than any of my Glocks.

I can't say enough about how much I like shooting that Bersa. Matched up with Win PDX1 bonded ammo, it's no slouch.

MinnesnowtaWild
01-31-2012, 01:47
.22 is too small for carry. It's just Gona piss someone off unless u get lucky. .380 would.be a much better option, for essentially the same size. My p238 will disappear just as fast as most any. 22 I think.

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I would be willing to bet that just as many people die each year from .22's than any other caliber. I'm not saying that it's the right choice, but it's still lethal.

jp3975
01-31-2012, 01:52
If youre getting a .22, get a Ruger Mark series. If you pay attention to this place anytime a .22 thread gets started, it is by far the most loved .22 of all time.

Kel tech has the pmr30 which is a 30 shot .22magnum. That would be a fun range gun.

I always steer clear of 380. For a low recoil fun pistol, how about a CZ 75B SA?

Or an FN 57. It's recoil is close to a 22 and factory mags hold 20.

If you want a pink pistol, have someone cheracote it or something.

NEOH212
01-31-2012, 01:56
Why not something ultra compact in 9x19? :whistling:


For me, 9x19 is the absolute minimum cartridge that I would consider for a primary carry gun.

Kahr and Sig have guns that will fit the bill.