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Airborne Infantryman
01-24-2012, 17:09
I went to the gunshop today looking for a .45, but a revolver caught my eye....a S&W 686-4 with 4 inch barrel, to be exact. It looks JUST like this one in the pic below-

http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/2212200913/8711855/acf9788.jpg

No lock, original wood grips, etc. Looks to be in 97% condition, and that's being harsh. The wood grips are immaculate. Its definitely a hefty gun, which I LIKE in a revolver of a higher caliber. They want $550 out the door for it. I'm wondering if that's worth it? It really is a nice revolver; I like it a LOT more than my Ruger GP100 6-inch I used to have. Just looking for a little insight as to whether I should snatch it up. :wavey:

ETA: The trigger and hammer look odd....like they're case hardened or something....the hammer and trigger look exactly like the hammer and trigger on this S&W-

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2627/5825950846_49d68a562e_z.jpg

Glock40man
01-24-2012, 17:15
They are one of the best 357s period. But that is just my opinion.

Magus
01-24-2012, 17:16
I think that's a more or less fair price for a S&W like that as long as it's in really good condition. They don't make them that way anymore. Good, well made, reliable revolver.

I'd still see if I could shake em' down about $50 or so. But I've seen 686's like this go for far more. It's still cheaper than current production with the lock. I say go for it.

fnfalman
01-24-2012, 17:17
If the gun is really 97% or more, i'd buy it for $550.

Nestor
01-24-2012, 17:17
This revolver was produced between 1993 and 1996. S&W catalog (3rd Edition) says: NIB - $500, Excellent - $425. Lately I've seen NIB 686 (unfired, no-lock) with all the papers priced at $525, but I'm in Canada - You should have better selection and prices...I guess. Bottom line is that if You like it and feel like buying - buy it. Those guns are more and more expensive comparing to current production from S&W.

barth
01-24-2012, 17:18
Looks like a ballpark price for one?

R*E
01-24-2012, 17:20
The trigger and hammer are case hardened. I have a 686-4 that came with rubber grips, I think I paid $399 NIB back in '94. As long as the timing and cylinder shake isn't a problem, I'd buy it.

BudMan5
01-24-2012, 17:22
This revolver was produced between 1993 and 1996. S&W catalog (3rd Edition) says: NIB - $500, Excellent - $425. Lately I've seen NIB 686 (unfired, no-lock) with all the papers priced at $525, but I'm in Canada - You should have better selection and prices...I guess. Bottom line is that if You like it and feel like buying - buy it. Those guns are more and more expensive comparing to current production from S&W.

that +1

Look around on Gunbroker for the same gun and look at the prices, always a good indicator.

Greatr gun, I carried one duty as a LEO when they first came out and still have it.

Loaded it up with some .357 magnum Gold Dots and let loose a couple of rounds at a bad guy.

Even if you miss they will collapse when they see the fireball at the end of the barrel.

This is the only gun that Chuck Norris won't go up against.

Airborne Infantryman
01-24-2012, 17:26
Are these 686-4's safe to dry-fire? The one I fondled at the gunstore had its firing pin attached to the hammer. Looked like you could replace the firing pin if need be?

It looked very nice. I'm sure if I bought it, cleand it up, it could pass for 98%. The wood grips are original. Not varnished of anything. Whoever had this gun took exceptional care of it. The bore looks great as well. Lock-up is very tight too. It couldn't have had too many round fired through it....

TN.Frank
01-24-2012, 17:27
Revolvers have gone sky frickin' high IMHO. I bought a brand new S&W 686+(the 7 shot model) with a 2.5" bbl, round butt(think that's the only way they make em' today) back in '98 and paid $450 for it and that was a high price but I really wanted that gun.
Seems to me that no L-Frame should be worth more then $400 even on it's best day. Color Case hammer and trigger are probably replacements, someone probably had standard and wanted Target Hammer and Target Trigger and ordered the Color Case in stead of Stainless, at least that's my take on it.
If you really want the gun I'd offer em' $450 cash out the door and remind them that the economy sucks right now and money is tight. If they really want to deal they will, if not keep an eye on the local sales sites and I'm sure something similar will turn up. As always, JMHO, YMMV.

Islander1
01-24-2012, 17:37
The 686-4 is a fine revolver. Check Gunbroker to get a feel for what they're selling for. For what it's worth, I just bought a 586-3 (blue version of the 686) that is 98% no box or papers for $425 OTD.

MJB
01-24-2012, 18:15
Are these 686-4's safe to dry-fire? The one I fondled at the gunstore had its firing pin attached to the hammer. Looked like you could replace the firing pin if need be?

It looked very nice. I'm sure if I bought it, cleand it up, it could pass for 98%. The wood grips are original. Not varnished of anything. Whoever had this gun took exceptional care of it. The bore looks great as well. Lock-up is very tight too. It couldn't have had too many round fired through it....

I've seen pics of those hammer mounted pins broken off. Buy snap caps it's cheap insurance.

ca survivor
01-24-2012, 18:26
Get it, before a Smith & Wesson expert buys it, that's a fair price for non-lock Smith.

pennlineman
01-24-2012, 19:00
If the gun is really 97% or more, i'd buy it for $550.


Me too, very fair price in my area anyways. I have a 6" and 2 1/2". I've been looking awhile for a nice 4".

They are safe to dry fire, I've been doing it for years with mine with no problems. The only exception would be the .22 rimfires.

ratf51
01-24-2012, 19:01
Price is relative. You could, maybe, hunt around on the wide-wide-world-of-web and eventually find the same gun for less. Or not. Where I am, that would be a good price for the gun; really good considering that it is a pre-lock version. Get it, do not stop, do not pass go, go get it.

With the hammer mounted firing pins I would not dry-fire without a snap cap.

collim1
01-24-2012, 19:45
Sounds good, I would jump on it. The 686 is one of the best out there. If the grips are in good shape like you say, I would put some Hogue rubber grips on there to save the nice ones.

I prefer the Hogues for shooting full power mag loads anyway, although beautiful they are not comfortable to me.

hogship
01-24-2012, 20:30
$550 for a 4" 686 is a very good price around here.......

ooc

wanderinwalker
01-24-2012, 21:28
Wait a minute. Why isn't this a "look what followed me home" thread?

If you have the money and want it, I'd say go for it. Offer $500 to start, but I would pay $550 for a clean, prelock stainless L-frame. And I don't even like the stupid full-lug barrels all of the manufacturers have seen fit to infect late model service revolvers with! :whistling:

It's still less than I've seen the N-frames going for around here lately. I'm positive I could turn my 6" 629 for more than I paid based on what I've seen on the shop shelves.

Rinspeed
01-24-2012, 21:38
I paid $165 for mine but that was a few years ago. :supergrin:

TN.Frank
01-24-2012, 21:44
So basically some of ya'll are saying that a used 686 S&W is worth the same as a used Sig P229, wow, I never thought I'd live to see the day.:shocked:

fnfalman
01-24-2012, 23:24
So basically some of ya'll are saying that a used 686 S&W is worth the same as a used Sig P229, wow, I never thought I'd live to see the day.:shocked:

Quality American gun versus junk bastardized American gun. What's so hard to figure out?

meathead19
01-25-2012, 11:27
So basically some of ya'll are saying that a used 686 S&W is worth the same as a used Sig P229, wow, I never thought I'd live to see the day.:shocked:

I recently traded my W. Germany P220 for this dog....no sleep lost yet.

fnfalman
01-25-2012, 11:41
I recently traded my W. Germany P220 for this dog....no sleep lost yet.

I'd consider that a fair trade: quality American iron for quality German iron.

NEOH212
01-26-2012, 04:27
In that condition, I would gladly pay as much as $700 to get into a pre Hilliary hole gun!


Buy it!!!! :wavey:

NEOH212
01-26-2012, 04:29
I recently traded my W. Germany P220 for this dog....no sleep lost yet.

This is where I would normally say something to the order of, "ARE YOU OUR OF YOUR EVER LOVING MIND TO TRADE A PERFECTLY GOOD SIG!"

But, with that nice of a score......


I'll let you slide this time! :wavey:


Nice gun and good trade! :cool:

meathead19
01-26-2012, 06:08
This is where I would normally say something to the order of, "ARE YOU OUR OF YOUR EVER LOVING MIND TO TRADE A PERFECTLY GOOD SIG!"

But, with that nice of a score......


I'll let you slide this time! :wavey:


Nice gun and good trade! :cool:

Thanks! Once I saw it with the wood furniture on....I had to take her home.

dabigguns357
01-26-2012, 07:53
You can't buy any revolver around here for less than 750.00 used or new,buy the dang thing.

I have 686-4 4 inch and i've had it since it was new.I paid 429.00 for it and if the world comes to an end and i get desperate for money,i'll sell my kidney before i'll sell mine.

Many years later,it's still in my 3 gun rotation and the one to stick around when many others have gone by-by.