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HOTHEAD
01-25-2012, 07:37
About a year ago I was given an early 1970's what I think is walnut ruger 10/22. This thing is in perfect condition,with a weaver scope on top. The back story is it belonged to my FIL's FIL. He was recently placed into a home, and when my FIL was cleaning out the house, he found it in the top of a closet with all the paperwork and bill of sale in a nice case. The thing is super SUPER clean.

To keep this short, my son is turning 13 in about a month and the other day I happened to glance at it in the safe and got the idea to clean it up and give it to him for his birthday. As I started thinking about it, I wondered if I was going to give him a .22 should I just trade it in to the LGS and throw down a few hundred and pick him up one of those 15/22 S&w's.

Anyone shoot both?

HOTHEAD

DylanPowell
01-25-2012, 07:41
I say 10/22. Is this his first gun? The 10/22 will be a better choice all around. It can be as fun as the other with the rapid fire, but would also be better for hunting, customizing, and target shooting.

maxpower220
01-25-2012, 07:52
If you check the rimfire forums, you will find the 10/22 is the most highly recommended rimfire out there. Tons of aftermarket parts and in depth knowledge of home grown gunsmithing. Check Rimfirecentral.com.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the Smith, but the 10/22 is free, it has a family history, and it is a known good shooter. Can't think of a reason to get rid of it. Also, give the 10/22, if he takes to shooting, then you can purchase something else later.

NeverMore1701
01-25-2012, 07:53
As fun and cool as the MP15-22 might be, I'd rather have the older 10/22.

CMG
01-25-2012, 08:00
I have both, and they are each fun in their own ways.

I wouldn't trade the 10/22. If you think he'd have more fun with an AR-style rifle, you can simply replace the stock on the 10/22 with several after-market kits that will give it the AR look and feel.

These are all 10/22s, just wrapped in different "stocks":

Butler Creek
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Ten%2022/1022BC.jpg

Krinker Plinker
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Ten%2022/1022KPbsa.jpg

Nordic Kit
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Ten%2022/1022NKtgmwg.jpg

Tapco Fusion
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Ten%2022/1022TFl.jpg

Tommy Gun
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Ten%2022/1022TG.jpg

Alcoy
01-25-2012, 08:04
keep the 10-22. they are more fun to shoot for me.

HOTHEAD
01-25-2012, 08:05
Is this his first gun?

Yes, but we live in a very suburban area. He wont be able to shoot it all that much. I have to drive him an hour each way to the family farm just so he can shoot. Our local range ( that cost me $400 to join, & 175 a year) will not let him shoot anything other than an air rifle before 16yo:steamed:. So he will be lucky to shoot it probably once a month.

HOTHEAD
01-25-2012, 08:08
Nordic Kit
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/pb9x19/Ten%2022/1022NKtgmwg.jpg



That looks slick. Another thing I wanted to ask is...
Did they make larger capacity mags for 10/22's pre 94? We live in NY.

fgutie35
01-25-2012, 08:10
Yes, but we live in a very suburban area. He wont be able to shoot it all that much. I have to drive him an hour each way to the family farm just so he can shoot. Our local range ( that cost me $400 to join, & 175 a year) will not let him shoot anything other than an air rifle before 16yo:steamed:. So he will be lucky to shoot it probably once a month.

Keep the 10/22 in the safe. if it is from that year, they are worh good money and its value is only going up (steel receiver I believe?). Get your son a savage model 64F. they are cheap and very, very accurate. More accurate than the 10/22.

irishbum
01-25-2012, 09:13
NEVER sell that 10/22 thing is a classic.

I'm sure at 13 he would rather have the 15-22 but does it fits his frame? You can't have adjustable stocks in NY right? Sucks but what are you gonna do.

If he can't shoot that much anyway , I would shy away from the 15-22 for a while. Get him shooting the 10/22 see how it goes ,then look to the 15-22 down the road. Also a nice bolt gun would be good teach him to make each round count. 10 rnd mags will slow him down too. Teach him slow is smooth and smooth is fast. He starts grouping all 10 on top of each other, well then look at hi-caps (pre94) and let him go bat crap cazy.

JaPes
01-25-2012, 10:36
Keep the 10/22. It has family history that is irreplaceable.


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ronin.45
01-25-2012, 15:18
As fun and cool as the MP15-22 might be, I'd rather have the older 10/22.

Yup..

USDefender
01-25-2012, 15:25
I say 10/22. Is this his first gun? The 10/22 will be a better choice all around. It can be as fun as the other with the rapid fire, but would also be better for hunting, customizing, and target shooting.


+1

While I love the Remmy 597 I bought a few years back, I really wish I'd bought a 10/22, if only for all the after-market stuff that's available for it.

never enough
01-25-2012, 15:28
If you check the rimfire forums, you will find the 10/22 is the most highly recommended rimfire out there. Tons of aftermarket parts and in depth knowledge of home grown gunsmithing. Check Rimfirecentral.com.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the Smith, but the 10/22 is free, it has a family history, and it is a known good shooter. Can't think of a reason to get rid of it. Also, give the 10/22, if he takes to shooting, then you can purchase something else later.

I agree with this guy. The gun has family history and you are passing it down to your son who might pass it down to his

Ironbar
01-26-2012, 09:44
Another vote for keeping the 10/22.

Travclem
01-26-2012, 09:48
Keep the 10/22, everyone should have one. Then buy the M&P.

I have both guns and if I had to only keep one it would be the M&P.

Vanilla-gorilla
01-26-2012, 09:51
Keep the 10/22, everyone should have one. Then buy the M&P.

I have both guns and if I had to only keep one it would be the M&P.

+1 aswell. :supergrin:

Armson-OEG
01-26-2012, 10:10
Ditched my 10/22 i had for 25 yrs. Just never ran near perfect, 1-5. malfunctions per mag.The M&P15-22 This thing runs, 700 + rds so far not one malfunction..Even the weak loads(you can hear the low pop) M&P just eats them up.

WarEagle32
01-26-2012, 23:54
A lot of love as it should be for the 10/22!!

Folsom_Prison
01-27-2012, 00:05
10/22 hands down! I love mine.

method
01-27-2012, 00:06
No M&P can ever look like this...

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4567/dscn0606gl4.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1576/dscn0608gy8.jpg

Cletus
01-27-2012, 01:35
Can we get a picture of said 10/22? I'd say stick with it. I just bought a new 10/22 target model and added a nikon prostaff scope and a few volquartsen parts to reduce the trigger pull to 1.8lbs and I have to say it is my favorite gun to shoot. There is soooo many parts out there for it.

DylanPowell
01-27-2012, 07:27
No M&P can ever look like this...

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4567/dscn0606gl4.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1576/dscn0608gy8.jpg



Very nice! Tell us about it.

Agent6-3/8
01-27-2012, 08:14
10/22 for sure. Never saw the appeal of tacticool .22's myself.

Aceman
01-27-2012, 08:53
M&P not as good for hunting, customizing, target shooting? BS!!!!!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p76/Aceman_photos/Guns/DSCN0597.jpg

Accurate, light, and rails! So much fun it should require a tax stamp.

That said -

I agree, you should really keep the 10/22. That thing is in the classic zone, with history, and sentimental value. Keep it until he appreciates it for what it is. and don't goof it up with all that crap above (as cool as a couple of those are!).

jwhite75
01-27-2012, 09:15
Definitelt keep the 10/22 for that purpose.

cjkranz
01-27-2012, 15:53
I have had a 10/22 since I was about 12 years old (25 years ago) and have put thousands and thousands of rounds through it.... HOWEVER, I also bought a 15/22 last year and have put around 10K rounds through it!! The 10/22 has been in the safe ever since. For me (and my kids) the 15/22 is a no brainer. It shoots just as accurate, there is also a TON of aftermarket items for it (AR trigger assembly for instance) and tearing it apart to clean it only takes about 10 seconds (and no tools required). Due to the family hx I would be inclined to keep the ruger BUT add the M&P for your son!!

OMEGA5
01-27-2012, 16:00
About a year ago I was given an early 1970's what I think is walnut ruger 10/22. This thing is in perfect condition,with a weaver scope on top. The back story is it belonged to my FIL's FIL. He was recently placed into a home, and when my FIL was cleaning out the house, he found it in the top of a closet with all the paperwork and bill of sale in a nice case. The thing is super SUPER clean.

To keep this short, my son is turning 13 in about a month and the other day I happened to glance at it in the safe and got the idea to clean it up and give it to him for his birthday. As I started thinking about it, I wondered if I was going to give him a .22 should I just trade it in to the LGS and throw down a few hundred and pick him up one of those 15/22 S&w's.

Anyone shoot both?

HOTHEAD

I havr 2 Ruger 10/22's and 1 S&W 15/22. Wish I had 3 S&W 15/22's.
Love this thing. Don't get me wrong, the Rugers are ok but for my money,
I'll take the 15/22 over the Ruger every time. It shoots great, is accurate,
digests everything I've put in a mag and you can get S&W 25 rnd mags,
not aftermarket jam-o-matics you have to get for the Ruger. My $.02
Dano :harley:

dosei
01-27-2012, 16:03
DO NOT TRADE AWAY THE 10/22!

That said...save up for the 15/22 (for yourself).

And yes, they made large capacity mags for the 10/22 long before '94...like over a decade before.

racer88
01-27-2012, 18:36
Another vote to keep the sentimental 10/22. Then buy the 15-22, if you want.

I got a modern 10/22 for my son. I have a 15-22 for me. Love both of them.

HOTHEAD
01-28-2012, 05:40
And yes, they made large capacity mags for the 10/22 long before '94...like over a decade before.

:wavey:Thanks
On the hunt I go

KING-PIN
03-06-2012, 18:20
No M&P can ever look like this...

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4567/dscn0606gl4.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1576/dscn0608gy8.jpg

...Thank Goodness...

:tongueout:

M2 Carbine
03-06-2012, 19:27
I have both. Don't get rid of the Ruger but IMO the S&W is a whole lot more fun to shoot.
Keep the Ruger and get a S&W.

People like to shoot the Ruger but they really get a kick out of shooting the MP 15-22.

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/SWMP22whandguards.jpg

Travclem
03-06-2012, 19:33
I have both. Don't get rid of the Ruger but IMO the S&W is a whole lot more fun to shoot.
Keep the Ruger and get a S&W.

People like to shoot the Ruger but they really get a kick out of shooting the MP 15-22.

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Bell-helicopter-407/SWMP22whandguards.jpg

I have the same opinion. I have both as well. The M&P is awesome but the 10/22 is a classic.

bhk
03-06-2012, 19:37
Keep the 10/22. I have one a few years older than yours and am the original owner. It has a walnut stock, metal butt plate, anodized receiver, and metal barrel band. If you do decide to customize yours with aftermarket parts, be sure to keep the original parts in a safe place. It will be worth much more in its original configuration.

michael e
03-06-2012, 19:41
I dont have a 10/22, they have some cool aftermarket add on kits for them, but by time you factor in gun and kit it is more than the SW. I just picked up a MP 15-22 last weekend, fun gun and alot cheaper to shoot than my Colt AR. I would let him learn on the 10/22 you already have and if likes it go from there.

Bob Hafler
03-06-2012, 19:52
I really can't think of a better semi auto rifle then a Ruger 10/22 for a young man learn on.

mixflip
03-06-2012, 20:51
I vote 10/22. Here is how mine changed as my mood changed.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/mixflip/CIMG2515-Copy.jpg

ratf51
03-06-2012, 21:19
OK, just to make sure I've got this right, the gun belonged to your son's great-grandfather, correct? (F-I-L's F-I-L=Wife's maternal grandfather=Son's great-grandfather). Keep the 10/22, it is officially family and it will become a point of connection for your son to his ancestors.

Besides, everybody needs a 10/22. :supergrin: :wavey:

hoghunter82
03-06-2012, 22:35
My 10 year old son loves the M&P15-22. Most reliable .22 we've ever owned. We tricked it out for him with red dot, bipod, and a boat load of mags. Plus for a kid it just looks cool. Can't really go wrong with either. But fun/cool factor the M&P wins hands down in my son's opinion.


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Veedubklown
03-07-2012, 07:48
If you check the rimfire forums, you will find the 10/22 is the most highly recommended rimfire out there. Tons of aftermarket parts and in depth knowledge of home grown gunsmithing.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the Smith, but the 10/22 is free, it has a family history, and it is a known good shooter. Can't think of a reason to get rid of it. Also, give the 10/22, if he takes to shooting, then you can purchase something else later.

As fun and cool as the MP15-22 might be, I'd rather have the older 10/22.

All this is true exactly.

Since we're all showing off our 10/22's =D

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e197/veedubklown/Firearms/2012-03-07_06-36-51_336.jpg

BSA illuminated recticle scope
Archangel stock
Extended charging handle
Auto bolt release
goofy muzzle brake

The promag mags are hit or miss. These 2 clip together. 30 round mags though, and they're cheap and easy to come by. Ruger makes their own 25 round mag as well, which runs perfect.

skullface405420
03-07-2012, 14:34
10/22s all the way. no other .22 with as many aftermarket parts available

irishbum
03-08-2012, 16:22
Did someone say "showing off 10/22's":cool:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ennnmx.jpg

NeverMore1701
03-08-2012, 16:38
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XsEtONqqhYg/TuGTkeYmw5I/AAAAAAAAAQI/br716LFJNgA/s1600/IMG_2222.JPG

Armson-OEG
03-10-2012, 11:31
I ditched my 10/22 that i had for 25 years,, Just was not reliable with aftermarket mags Ramline Butler creek. The 15-22 has been 100% reliable. Mags cost less $16-$18 and are made better. Plus most AR parts work with it..Guess it depends on what u want. I wanted a "tactical" type .22 The 10/22 never measured up. I spent lots of $$ on accessories, just made the 10/22 weigh more. Heres mine cammod and leaning against tree, before i painted sight and bolt.


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/Armson-Oeg/100_0850.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/Armson-Oeg/100_0825-1.jpg

sns3guppy
03-10-2012, 11:45
The 10/22 is ubiquitous. I've got several, and have owned quite a few. I just bought another a few days ago; a 10/22CRR youth model with fiber optic iron sights and a shorter barrel and length of pull. I bought it for kids to shoot.

I've never had a 10/22 that wasn't finicky with ammunition or that didn't stovepipe jam. They're fun to shoot, lots of fun in fact, but haven't been as reliable as others. By comparison, when I take kids shooting, I usually include a browning Buckmark with a 16" bbl and an aluminum shoulder stock; they love it, it's always reliable, and it's fun.

I like 10/22's, which is why I just bought another. That said, the S&W would be my choice, if I were giving it as a gift and had the money. The family heirloom shouldn't be sold; that should stay in the family. Why not keep the 10/22 and buy a Smith?

I plan to buy one soon.

Taphius
03-10-2012, 13:01
I would get the mp15-22. Debating on selling my 10-22(mine is not an heirloom though,) as well to get one or an cmmg 22 conversion bolt for my ar.

Thoughroughly not pleased with how picky the 10-22 is with all ammo I have tried with anything other than factory 10 Rounders, even the bx25 misfeeds or stovepipes on me atleast once a may.

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mac66
03-11-2012, 09:17
A 70's era 10/22 did have a walnut stock. The fact that it belonged to your son's grandfather makes it all the more special. I say keep it.