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Airborne Infantryman
01-25-2012, 11:48
Looking at two 1911s. A Springfield Loaded Parkerized and an MC Operator.

The Loaded is $738 and the Operator is $1040. I like the OD Green of the Operator but am wondering what it is that justifies the extra $300 for the Operator, besides the obvious rail and OD Green finish on the frame. The Operator is the MAX I wanna spend on a 1911, FWIW. Another thing- the serial # prefix on the 3 Loaded starts with NM and doesn't say made in Brazil. Did Springfield start making the Loaded here in the U.S.? He got them in yesterday, and they are 2012 production FWIW....which one would be the best value? I'm not that big into 1911s....I just want one for the arsenal.

Rally Vincent
01-25-2012, 12:34
I've never been real big on Springers. But I did get a chance to shoot an Operator about three months ago. Seemed like a fine pistol. Very accurate and didn't malfunction once. Loved the OD green too.

knedrgr
01-25-2012, 12:49
NM is finished in the States. So it's a good Loaded that you have there. Seems like more of the Stainless Loaded are more N prefix. While parked are more NM.

Get what you like. If you see a use for the rail, then get the MC Op.

If not, you can get just the frame Cerakoted for around $150 with shipping. If you go that route, give Lou a call at BEC. He does great work.

http://www.businessendcustoms.com/Cerakote.html

Mayhem like Me
01-25-2012, 14:13
The MC operator is finished more along the lines of a TRP but without the Frame enhancements.. hence the price, think of it as a budget TRP..

faawrenchbndr
01-25-2012, 15:39
The ONLY difference between the two is the rail & finishes.

Airborne Infantryman
01-25-2012, 16:18
The ONLY difference between the two is the rail & finishes.

Hmm....it seems I'd be better served by just getting the Parkerized Loaded...I'd save myself $300 going that route. :supergrin:

TxGlock9
01-25-2012, 16:34
I would say the quality of build favors the mc operator but not by much. For the money i would look into Sigs or Sti. Not to discredit springers.

Airborne Infantryman
01-25-2012, 16:42
I would say the quality of build favors the mc operator but not by much. For the money i would look into Sigs or Sti. Not to discredit springers.

Not a fan of Sig's external extractor, and I want something I can touch locally, so I can inspect it prior to buying.

I think I'll just save my $$ and get the Loaded Parkerized. It would match my Mossberg 590A1 pretty nicely. :cool:

R0CKETMAN
01-25-2012, 16:42
I've never been real big on Springers

Too bad. You're really missing out.



The ONLY difference between the two is the rail & finishes.

Exactly


If you don't like either, the Operator will sell faster. All things being equal.

Kimura
01-25-2012, 16:45
Hmm....it seems I'd be better served by just getting the Parkerized Loaded...I'd save myself $300 going that route. :supergrin:

What are you going to use it for? I like having a light rail on my guns. While I do have ones without and you certainly can get the surefire mount, I just think in most situations a light rail makes sense. The exceptions being strictly a range gun only or if you're going to CC the gun, the rail does make it a bit more bulky. If it's a duty gun or a home defense gun, I think you're best served with having a rail. Just my opinion.

faawrenchbndr
01-25-2012, 16:51
I would say the quality of build favors the mc operator but not by much. For the money i would look into Sigs or Sti. Not to discredit springers.


A NM serial number prefix Loaded I recently picked up is MUCH tighter
than the MC Operators I've tried. However, I do not remember ever seeing
a MC Operator with a NM serial prefix.

No experience with STI.

Sigs customer service, while good, can not compete with Springfield.

Mayhem like Me
01-25-2012, 17:10
The ONLY difference between the two is the rail & finishes.

Not according to employees at Springfield .. MC operators are fitted to the level as the TRP.

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faawrenchbndr
01-25-2012, 17:39
Not according to employees at Springfield .. MC operators are fitted to the level as the TRP.

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Ok,.....Bob Serva say's something likse that as well. Fusion still can not
fit a grip safety for ****!

Put you hands on a MC Operator and a NM prefix Loaded and get back with me.

Bodyarmorguy
01-25-2012, 17:43
I like a park finished pistol....but there is jus something aboout that MC Operator that speaks to me.

faawrenchbndr
01-25-2012, 17:57
MC Operators are sweet Springers,...........

faawrenchbndr
01-25-2012, 18:07
Not according to employees at Springfield .. MC operators are fitted to the level as the TRP.

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Just looked at an old e-mail from Deb at Springer,......the TRP models are
NM prefix serial number guns.

carloglock19
01-25-2012, 20:49
I picked up a NM serial Loaded parkerized last month and its amazing. I also have an N serial Milspec and the fit finish and over all feel of my new 1911 is much better. No malfunctions to report, feeds ball and HP ammo perfectly. I still love my SS Milspec but the Loaded is my new favorite!

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CA_DUDE
01-26-2012, 01:50
The fit/finish/and trigger on my MC is much nicer than any loaded I've ever handled or fired. The MC exceeded my expectations. The word on the street is that MC's and range officers get more attention in the assembly/fitting department. Also MC's have a one piece barrel (Storm Lake according to various sources) loadeds have two piece barrels. They tend to be regarded as a solid built and performing production line 1911, I think there is a reason for that. I'm sure they can vary in quality, but then that's true of most, and to a higher degree with NM loadeds. I say put your hands on both. If they seem the same, get the cheaper. If your impressed with the MC, your getting one for one he'll of a good price.

ca survivor
01-27-2012, 13:58
Hate 1911s with rail.

jrs93accord
01-27-2012, 15:05
The MC OPERATOR is a sweet pistol. I was glad I got one myself.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/003-4.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/004-16.jpg

with STREAMLIGHT TLR-3

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/007.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/008-1.jpg

chakup
01-27-2012, 15:13
A NM serial number prefix Loaded I recently picked up is MUCH tighter
than the MC Operators I've tried. However, I do not remember ever seeing
a MC Operator with a NM serial prefix.

No experience with STI.

Sigs customer service, while good, can not compete with Springfield.


I've never seen a non-NM MC Operator, happen to have a pic of one?

I've owned two MC's and both were fit excellent. Regret getting rid of them and would love to find one of the older ones.

faawrenchbndr
01-27-2012, 15:32
I've never seen a non-NM MC Operator, happen to have a pic of one?

I've owned two MC's and both were fit excellent. Regret getting rid of them and would love to find one of the older ones.


Read the ENTIRE thread,.....:whistling:

chakup
01-27-2012, 15:34
I did.... on my phone. :whistling:

faawrenchbndr
01-27-2012, 15:41
Never said I saw a "non NM prefix MC Operator"
I DID say, "I never remembered seeing a NM prefix MC Operator"

Get your info squared away,........

chakup
01-27-2012, 15:43
Never said I saw a "non NM prefix MC Operator"
I DID say, "I never remembered seeing a NM prefix MC Operator"

Get your info squared away,........

Well hell try being nice and all but ummm...
"However, I do not remember ever seing a MC Operator with a NM serial prefix."

That sure to me implies that you've seen N marked MC Operators as you say you've handled MC's and Loaded's but never seen an NM MC Operator. So what info shall I square away other than again wondering if you have pics of said N marked operators?

faawrenchbndr
01-27-2012, 15:53
Holy crap Dude,.......I do not pay a lot of attention to serial numbers.

I seen MC Operators that were fit like crap.
I've seen Loaded models that were fit like crap.
I've seen a few TRP models that were fit like crap.

A NM prefix serial number does NOT guarantee a tight fitting slide,
it does, most normally though. Get off your phone and get your
HANDS on some of these, you will see exactly what I mean!

:wavey:

chakup
01-27-2012, 16:00
I've had my hands on more than a few, and until you can show one that's N only I'll stand by there all NM. And never once did I say that guaranteed anything.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr324/2k5wrx/Guns/IMG_20110711_121305.jpg

Glockdude1
01-27-2012, 16:11
The MC OPERATOR is a sweet pistol. I was glad I got one myself.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/003-4.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/004-16.jpg

with STREAMLIGHT TLR-3

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/007.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2010/008-1.jpg

:agree:

Love mine, now I want a TRP.

:supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
01-27-2012, 17:57
I've had my hands on more than a few, and until you can show one that's N only I'll stand by there all NM. And never once did I say that guaranteed anything.




Dude,......that's NOT a MC Operator!
Looks like your's is a wee bit small to me! :tongueout:

chakup
01-27-2012, 18:11
Dude,......that's NOT a MC Operator!
Looks like your's is a wee bit small to me! :tongueout:

Sure it is, it's the rare elusive Marine Champion Operator :rofl:

Airborne Infantryman
01-27-2012, 18:25
Well, I got the Operator. I compared the Loaded and the Operator side-by-side, and the trigger pull on the Operator was EXTREMELY smooth, and lighter than the Loaded. Same goes with the fit and finish.

Big thanks to Christina and Chad at Quantico Tactical for hooking me up. :cool:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6773353067_67a8a8060a_b.jpg

$1040 is an amazing deal for a brand-new MC Operator!

jrs93accord
01-27-2012, 18:41
Well, I got the Operator. I compared the Loaded and the Operator side-by-side, and the trigger pull on the Operator was EXTREMELY smooth, and lighter than the Loaded. Same goes with the fit and finish.

Big thanks to Christina and Chad at Quantico Tactical for hooking me up. :cool:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6773353067_67a8a8060a_b.jpg

$1040 is an amazing deal for a brand-new MC Operator!

That is an outstanding price. Congrats.

Glockdude1
01-27-2012, 18:54
Well, I got the Operator. I compared the Loaded and the Operator side-by-side, and the trigger pull on the Operator was EXTREMELY smooth, and lighter than the Loaded. Same goes with the fit and finish.

Big thanks to Christina and Chad at Quantico Tactical for hooking me up. :cool:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6773353067_67a8a8060a_b.jpg

$1040 is an amazing deal for a brand-new MC Operator!

Excellent price!!

:thumbsup:

faawrenchbndr
01-27-2012, 19:07
Sure it is, it's the rare elusive Marine Champion Operator :rofl:

Ok,......that ****'s funny!