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jp3975
01-25-2012, 14:54
So I noticed a video from the Shot show saying Tavor would be here this year.

Its what the Israeli military uses these days for those who haven't heard of it. I've thought it was interesting since I first saw it.

Anyone ever shot one or have opinions on it?

I'm curious if its any better than the Steyr or FN bullpups.

http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/TAVOR/tavor_commando1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Tavor_CTAR.JPG/220px-Tavor_CTAR.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Tavor_TAR-21

FARTHAMMER
01-25-2012, 14:57
I'm interested as well. Hope it doesn't cost as much as those other bullpups.

fnfalman
01-25-2012, 15:47
How are they going to circumvent the import ban? Come in as parts kits and then the assembler mixes in the appropriate American parts?

SiberianErik
01-25-2012, 16:06
My favorite rifle in MW2 :supergrin:

joecoastie
01-25-2012, 16:07
I believe they are actually building them in the US.

fnfalman
01-25-2012, 16:09
I believe they are actually building them in the US.

Every time I hear foreign guns to be made in America...I cringe.

joecoastie
01-25-2012, 16:17
Every time I hear foreign guns to be made in America...I cringe.

I could be wrong, but I believe that was mentioned by a rep in one of the SHOT show videos. Hopefully they'll get it right, I'm very interested in this rifle depending on price.

Bimmer1
01-25-2012, 17:22
How are they going to circumvent the import ban? Come in as parts kits and then the assembler mixes in the appropriate American parts?


They already have approval. The U.S. Tavor has been in the works for quite some time and was "almost" a done deal a few years ago before Charles Daly went out of business. Now Daly is back partnering with another company to finally bring the Tavor here.

BullpupForum Tavor interview - YouTube

esh325
01-25-2012, 18:19
If they made the entire thing in the US, I think it would end up be more then what most people are willing to pay. Importing it partially assembled would be more viable I think.

raven11
01-25-2012, 18:31
I'm betting $2,000-$3,000

Bimmer1
01-25-2012, 19:05
The Canadians have been able to get them for a few years now. I wonder how much they have to pay for their version of the Tavor?

427
01-25-2012, 19:08
The Canadians have been able to get them for a few years now. I wonder how much they have to pay for their version of the Tavor?

http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=12&cat=0&page=1

as400guy1
01-25-2012, 19:15
Must start saving pennies!!!!!

Bimmer1
01-25-2012, 19:27
http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=12&cat=0&page=1


Thanks! I bet we will also see a minimum price tag of $2,000 to $2,500. Canadian prices tend to be a little higher than ours.

Update: I just read this on another forum about the Tavor from an official source:


"Hello All,

Now that SHOT is over and many people have seen, handled and commented on the sample at the show, I think some clarifications should be made to answer some of your questions and hopefully preclude any confusion about this project.

The US semi-auto Tavor will be manufactured in the US by IWI. Charles Daly and Trans World Arms will not have anything to do with the manufacturing of this firearm.
It will be made from Israeli imported parts and US sourced parts in full compliance with 922(r).
The semi-auto construction and engineering has been approved by BATF&E.
The Tavor accepts AR-15/M-16 mags, including PMags. Which mag will actually be supplied with the Tavor has yet to be decided.
The sample shown at SHOT, with a 16" barrel and full length Picatinny top rail, is only one configuration that is contemplated. (Actual production of this model will have a 16.5" barrel in order to meet the US minimum 26" OAL.) Other models could include a 18" version with or without the Mepro 21 reflex sight; perhaps to become the "IDF" model.) The number of models to be offered has not been finalized.
Initial deliveries are projected to be on the market by the end of October, hopefully sooner.
The projected MSRP (for models without optics) will hopefully stay under $2k.

If you have any further questions please post them here and I will do my best to answer them in the coming months.

Thanks again for your interest in this fantastic Bullpup.

Sincerely "
__________________
Michael Kassnar, President
Trans World Arms LLC

runcible68
01-26-2012, 12:58
Every time I hear foreign guns to be made in America...I cringe.

I like things to be made in America too. But every gun Iíve bought that was made in the USA had to go back to the factory for one reason or another. My Glocks, never a problem. Poor quality control, especially at S&W, will always make people comfortable buying guns from German speaking countries. (Glock, Walther, Sig, Steyr.)

fnfalman
01-26-2012, 13:02
Who is IWI?

Reswob
01-26-2012, 13:57
Who is IWI?

Really? Israel Weapon Industries, formerly Israel Military Industries weapons division.

jp3975
01-26-2012, 14:01
I like things to be made in America too. But every gun Iíve bought that was made in the USA had to go back to the factory for one reason or another. My Glocks, never a problem. Poor quality control, especially at S&W, will always make people comfortable buying guns from German speaking countries. (Glock, Walther, Sig, Steyr.)

I prefer weapons to be made in countries of origin, generally. Especially military weapons.

If nothing else because that's where it originated.

Foxtrotx1
01-26-2012, 14:10
I'm getting one.

CJStudent
01-26-2012, 15:06
I do believe I may have to look into acquiring one of these......

Vance665
01-26-2012, 15:22
This or FS2000? That's going to be a hard one.

Zombie Steve
01-26-2012, 21:20
Does the trigger suck like every other bullpup?

Lior
01-26-2012, 22:20
Like much of the world, it is unfortunate that this military firearm is not made available to civilians in its country of origin.

RFPhoto
01-26-2012, 22:30
Lefty compatable or are we left out?

Bimmer1
01-26-2012, 23:39
Like much of the world, it is unfortunate that this military firearm is not made available to civilians in its country of origin.


I heard you guys really like Glocks in Israel!!!:supergrin:

What can civilians purchase there from IWI besides the Jericho?

NEOH212
01-27-2012, 03:46
I want one before the gun ban czar has his way!


I am very interested in this rifle!

fnfalman
01-27-2012, 11:05
Really? Israel Weapon Industries, formerly Israel Military Industries weapons division.

Yes, really. There was a company called IWI that made night sights about a decade ago and it went out of business.

jp3975
01-27-2012, 16:27
Lefty compatable or are we left out?

All you have to do is change the bolt.

USDefender
01-27-2012, 23:04
How are they going to circumvent the import ban? Come in as parts kits and then the assembler mixes in the appropriate American parts?


I hope they don't do to it what they did to the Galil's that are available here... 'They,' took an utterly reliable rifle, changed a few parts, and began selling us a rifle that isn't 'utterly reliable.' :upeyes:


Every time I hear foreign guns to be made in America...I cringe.


Amen. :shakehead:


They already have approval. The U.S. Tavor has been in the works for quite some time and was "almost" a done deal a few years ago before Charles Daly went out of business. Now Daly is back partnering with another company to finally bring the Tavor here.

That is just excellent.

Line Rider
01-28-2012, 09:33
I'll bet MSRP will be about $2500.00 :wow:


I'd rather have a SIG 556

Lior
01-28-2012, 09:54
I heard you guys really like Glocks in Israel!!!:supergrin:

What can civilians purchase there from IWI besides the Jericho?


Would be suspecting that very few Jerichos are sold these days domestically. A few civilians bought Uzi Pistols, but most people would not want to waste their one and only gun license on a piece that is difficult to conceal or heavy to carry.

Best Tavor pic (being carried by an Arab girl):
http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/7/4/1799503e-24b8-48a5-94ff-2a4e0e60a7e6.Full.jpg